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Tudor Pelagos 39: In-depth review + comparison 

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@Podcastage
@Podcastage 2 года назад
You dropped a big piece of information here and I hope people catch it. You don’t take money from brands even for travel and hotel to the press events and releases. This is huge. Mad respect Adrian for staying independent. Also this goes without saying, outstanding video. Keep up the great work.
@BarkandJack
@BarkandJack 2 года назад
Thanks a lot mate. The more I learn about media, more I’m keen to stay independent. It’s more simple and enjoyable.
@biggiebeil5118
@biggiebeil5118 2 года назад
To me the 39 is just a cheaper more budget option even less costs to compare to the old ones 42 with the two colors. Still no innovation yet it's the opposite. Perhaps the current economic situation ! No mention some of the new Pelagos is ETA based, (I think)
@DeeKay1911
@DeeKay1911 2 года назад
Well to me it doesn’t sell out anything if they paid for Adrian’s travel and hotel to attend the event
@omonteso
@omonteso 2 года назад
@@biggiebeil5118 nope. It’s in-house like the 58 line.
@Podcastage
@Podcastage 2 года назад
@@DeeKay1911 I don’t think it’s selling out, it just goes to show the lengths he goes to eliminate any potential or perceived conflicts of interest.
@julianscoffield4477
@julianscoffield4477 2 года назад
It’s been said plenty in the comments but bears repeating: this is undoubtedly the best review of the Pelagos 39! You threw a ton of information at us in an immensely informative, engaging, and aesthetically pleasing way! I especially appreciate the inclusion of dial width in the measurements breakdown. Fantastic work Adrian :)
@SpencerCookertin
@SpencerCookertin 2 года назад
Adrian, I’ve been a follower for a long time and you absolutely KILLED this review. Thank you so much. You officially have the best review of this watch hands down and I’ve seen like 10 on RU-vid. Keep making the amazing content and I agree with every single point you made.
@BarkandJack
@BarkandJack 2 года назад
Thanks so much Spencer. Really appreciate that mate. 🙌🏻
@MrBozovic07
@MrBozovic07 2 года назад
Agree on this. Brilliant and honest review.
@jan.lotvall
@jan.lotvall 2 года назад
@Adrian, please make 21mm straps, I need one for my Grand Seiko Shunbun pliz!
@geoffwatches
@geoffwatches 2 года назад
I agree what this guy said. Smashed this one Adrian.
@raymond-thecrumpledlecturer
@raymond-thecrumpledlecturer 2 года назад
I still love the look of the Black Bay 58. It may well date, but that's not always necessarily a bad thing. Vintage counts for a lot.
@ppbur
@ppbur 2 года назад
They are already vintage inspired. What he saying is that the "vintage look" is falling out of style.
@giusepperocchi2979
@giusepperocchi2979 2 года назад
@@ppbur Sure, that’s why Tudor just released the BB Pro and Ranger.
@raymond-thecrumpledlecturer
@raymond-thecrumpledlecturer 2 года назад
@@ppbur You're right. I think what I was trying to say is that it will develop its own individual "vintage". It's a wonderful irony that for the Black Bay 58 their emulation of a vintage mode has given rise to a form that may in itself develop into what in posterity will be seen as its own classic / vintage look.
@SGM805
@SGM805 2 года назад
Style will always be in, but fashion always changes & then comes back around again!
@marlonr391
@marlonr391 2 года назад
Yep!!! 58 looks gorgeous 😍 but that P39 WoW, looks like the best diver yet again in that price point
@user-pm8uc5dc3e
@user-pm8uc5dc3e 2 года назад
Intentionally the single best Rolex submariner alternative. Going to be massively popular.
@JJJosh949
@JJJosh949 2 года назад
I wished they brought back the tudor submariner nameplate, as this is the modern interpretation. Also, would eliminate the need for a BB58 & keeping the Pelagos for those who want a 42mm.
@harryhirsch3637
@harryhirsch3637 2 года назад
Exactly my thoughts.
@FunWithAJ
@FunWithAJ 2 года назад
Agreed
@Jay-xr3sb
@Jay-xr3sb 2 года назад
Omega Planet Ocean Liquid Metal Limited Edition, way cooler and rarer
@alihilly1
@alihilly1 2 года назад
Easily goes to the Seamaster 300m…
@mchitha
@mchitha 2 года назад
Been waiting for this review since the launch. Hands down best review of the Pelagos 39. Great content!
@BarkandJack
@BarkandJack 2 года назад
Thanks a lot Simon 🙌🏻
@stebesplace
@stebesplace 2 года назад
I feel like this will be Tudors best selling watch over the next couple of years. It’s a one watch collection for sure.
@MikoTheTomCat
@MikoTheTomCat 3 месяца назад
I’ve got it and it’s very comfortable and wearable. I wish it had a date function. That’s the only thing it is missing.
@ChaPPie01
@ChaPPie01 17 дней назад
​@MikoTheTomCat that's why I sell it my 58 date is must for me..
@wasdwasdwwasd
@wasdwasdwwasd 2 года назад
"Everything about this watch screams tool." -AB
@JJJosh949
@JJJosh949 2 года назад
I just wished they consolidated the BB & the P39 and reissued the tudor submariner nameplate. Ultimately, the P39 is the modern tudor sub we all wanted.
@explorerjlc1743
@explorerjlc1743 2 года назад
the name is all just hype.
@johnnyguitar6697
@johnnyguitar6697 2 года назад
This will only happen when Rolex retires the Submariner name from their range. In other words: never.
@bigmacdaddy1234
@bigmacdaddy1234 2 года назад
@@explorerjlc1743 That name is what people want.
@explorerjlc1743
@explorerjlc1743 2 года назад
@@bigmacdaddy1234 not me. Can care less for marketing gimmicks
@jackblah5842
@jackblah5842 4 месяца назад
@@explorerjlc1743 when you get down to it, all this watch hooey is a gimmick.
@Motormouth...
@Motormouth... 2 года назад
I have watched a bunch of videos on this new watch and what every single reviewer misses is the fact that the Vintage tutor Subs sold from the 1960s until the 1990s were 39 mm! that's the whole point of this, they are embracing the heritage of the brand and the size that was always slightly different from the Rolex Submariner
@fenianlewis
@fenianlewis 2 года назад
? Classic Submariners were smaller too The 6538, i.e. the Sean Connery James Bond watch was 38mm.
@Motormouth...
@Motormouth... 2 года назад
@@fenianlewis most were 1mm bigger than Tudor subs at 40mm
@chueey14
@chueey14 2 года назад
I knew you’re into watches Motormouth after watching so many of your car reviews and noticing your watches lol
@waterfordrs22
@waterfordrs22 2 года назад
It’s also an example of them embracing common sense. Case widths of 38-40mm make a lot of sense. Watches, as objects of interest really start to get u retesting as you step down from those larger sizes. There’s no denying it. A well designed watch around 39mm may not fit everyone perfectly, but it will fit a majority reasonably well. Consumers are also becoming, slowly more savvy with respect to fit and it’s not always enough to simply throw something giant and eye popping out there on the market. Hopefully it means the market itself is broadening in terms of who’s attracted to and interested in buying a mechanical watch. If you look at vintage watches, the heritage, across all lines, up to the late sixties and early seventies, dive watches aside, a 36mm case was considered a jumbo size watch. Rolex has always offered smaller watches within their line. They recently scaled the Explorer down from 39mm to 36mm - Tudor should offer their new Ranger in a 36 as well, traditionally field watches were quite small, 34-36mm, fit aside, they look right as objects of interest. I’m sure Tudor knows that, the interest - it might be there.
@cameronbuckner254
@cameronbuckner254 2 года назад
This is why I love Tudor. To me personally, they are the perfect intersection of tough tools that are well made, but are also luxurious enough to give me that special feeling when I put them on my wrist. Now, I have to say I'm relatively new to the Watch hobby. I've only been seriously interested and doing research for probably the last year or so. That being said, in my short time with watches, Tudor has become my absolute favorite brand. My favorite thing about watches is having a thing on your wrist that is useful to tell time, but that also makes you feel a certain way when you look down at it. When I look down at my wrist and I see the Black Bay GMT, I see a reliable old friend that reminds me to book that trip to Africa i've always wanted to take, and take that watch with me because it is well made and functional enough to survive almost anything, but beautiful and wonderful enough to make it feel special when I put it on. When I look at this new Pelagos, I see a watch that is begging to be taken to the lake and to the beach, something that is more than happy to go diving or spearfishing, and then go to the restaurant that night with a sports coat on. If I had it my way my collection would almost be all Tudor haha. Anyway, sorry for the rant, I just have alot of feelings about Tudor. Great review, I will add the 39mm Pelagos to the list of other Tudors I want, but it's moving to the front of the line!
@juniorjohnson5961
@juniorjohnson5961 2 года назад
@@toziassmitt I'd never take a expensive watch Diving , Dive boats are crowded & things get bounced around very easy to damage a watch that cost thousands. Buy a good cheap watch and you'll enjoy the dive better & won't be worried about the watch . the watch is mostly for me looks anyway the dive master usually keeps track of of the time.
@BB-gl7zt
@BB-gl7zt 2 года назад
Cameron, I'm with you buddy. Mechanical (and quartz) watches are a very cool intersection between art, style, technology and function. This newest release from Tudor is hard to say no to for me as well.
@oneal14attnet
@oneal14attnet 2 года назад
@Cameron Buckner I agree with you whole heartedly. I’m just returning from a trip to Greece (Athens, Crete, Santorini) and of all my watches to choose from my Tudor BB 58 Navy received the honors. Why? It’s a beautiful timepiece to feel like you have something special on your wrist and it doubles as a beach to tux watch. Mornings on the shores of Crete and evenings dressed up at the restaurant. I have a Pepsi, Sprite, Daytona, and a Seamaster 300 vintage and the BB58 was perfect.
@cameronbuckner254
@cameronbuckner254 2 года назад
@@oneal14attnet Kinda jealous of your Greece adventure not going to lie haha! But i'm glad you had a good time and your got to enjoy your watch in its element!
@Riggu54
@Riggu54 2 года назад
​@@toziassmitt I bought bb58 for everyday use, I use the bezel to time certain things on my work. I'm not diver but not a office worker either. It's literally a tool for me. I don't understand when people say that you can't use luxury watch as a tool watch.
@oysterman962
@oysterman962 2 года назад
Another entertaining & excellent review. I use to own the P42 but I sold it to buy the BB58. Although I prefer the reduction in size I think the downgrade in the specs on the P39 doesn't warrant it being a Pelagos anymore. It seems to me the P39 is just a titanium BB58 with a snowflake dial. I know it's been mentioned countless times that 500m WR is overkill & therefore the HEV is not necessary on the P39. But once you remove that important feature which is what made the Pelagos what it was, then you essentially just have a fancier version of the BB58. Similarly if you replaced the 1220m depth rating on the Rolex Sea-Dweller to 300m, it then becomes a Submariner. I think everyone has overlooked the fact the Pelagos has been castrated. Gloss over it if you will by arguing that no human being is going to be capable of diving 500m. However I'm sure people would change their minds if you compare this with supercars. If you reduced the max speed on a Ferrari from 350km to 150km but kept the design the same and charged the same price, how many would Ferrari sell? You could argue that nobody should be legally driving more than 150km anyway but the point is it's capability of being able to go 350km is why you want the Ferrari. And speaking of the price, I don't think the P39 is a value proposition at the price point. I think the BB58 is still the winner. The technical specs are equal and the BB58 with a 20mm lug width compared to the 21mm it is more versatile for swapping straps. The guilt dial also makes it more interesting. I don't think it will ever be less desirable than the sterile look of the Pelagos line. The other point I'd like to mention is the incorrect view of the BB58 being less tool watch than the P39. What justifies this? It's got the same tech specs as the P39 except it's made out of steel. Is steel less tool watch than titanium? Lighter yes but not as versatile in my opinion. Also, the BB58 is often described as being a fashion dive watch. However it needs to be reminded that it was designed as a homage to the original dive watches back in the 1950's. It is therefore taking it's DNA from the original tool watch.
@Kydos37
@Kydos37 Год назад
You're equating the engine of a car with the water resistance of a watch, not a good analogy imo. A better one would be having a Range Rover with no tow bar, because a big 4x4 is meant for working in fields and pulling trailers but actually you just like the way it looks and all you use it for is dropping the kids off at school. And if you do need to ford a particularly large puddle it can handle it. The looks are subjective. I like the BB58 but not so much it's bracelet with the polish and the faux rivets, and the aluminum bezel is a big sticking point, it's just never gonna age well. The P39 is sterile but I don't think it puts any toes out of line, apart from the 21mm lug width. "the incorrect view of the BB58 being less tool watch than the P39. What justifies this?" The lack of crown guards and the polished case?
@kingteddybear7621
@kingteddybear7621 2 года назад
Great video Adrian. The P42 black is my watch and I love it. Originally I preferred the blue but went with the black & very happy now as it is the more versatile combination in my opinion and a classic look too. With regards to the P39 - I like it but think it misses some of the uniqueness of the larger watch which I think is a negative - 3D dial, date complication, expanding clasp. The other things I like about the 42 are the matt dial and bezel - they appear clearer. The size of the 42 doesn’t worry me - not sure the 39 is such an advantage and the sunburst dial and agree the marketing is a bit confusing for a tool watch. Interesting watch though and will look for one in the flesh to make my final opinion. PS. Thanks for the 2 x straps I bought last year - they have been great. Roger.
@IrishOister
@IrishOister 2 года назад
This Pelagos 39 is really the Tudor version of the modern Submariner 2022 no date. It would be great to have the same side by side comparison, outdoors too.
@AnaInTh3Sky
@AnaInTh3Sky 2 года назад
That window in the background gave away that you were a fellow head-banging metalhead in the mid 2000s... been to Camden Underworld at least once! 😜
@AW-wm9bk
@AW-wm9bk 2 года назад
.. really boring watch... 😔..sorry,
@Bogart1980
@Bogart1980 2 года назад
The 21mm lug width is baffling. They could have had one of the greatest strap monsters of all time!
@gid-vicious
@gid-vicious 2 года назад
I think it’s gives it better wrist presence, the bracelet and rubber strap is probably all you need for this puppy.
@drzaius844
@drzaius844 2 года назад
You can shove a 22 onto 21 lugs
@jeanlefranc3817
@jeanlefranc3817 2 года назад
Tudor expects some additional $ by selling straps on line 😉
@bigmacdaddy1234
@bigmacdaddy1234 2 года назад
@@drzaius844 And it will look and feel awful.
@jaspercheetham9705
@jaspercheetham9705 2 года назад
As a skinny wristed watch lover, I love seeing watch brands with 40 or 39mm options, it really opens up a lot of watches to people who would otherwise not be able to pull it off. I also think the 21mm lugs were a mistake, but the bracelet looks so good I don’t think it matters in this case. I would choose a Pelagos over a BB any day.
@ChrisJohnson-yw2ky
@ChrisJohnson-yw2ky Год назад
Black Bay is nice but I just can't do the gold. Gotta be black and white for me.
@pmolitierno
@pmolitierno Год назад
Titanium is perfect for function (better than 316L/904L for salt water), but really leaves something to be desired in terms of weight and will also patina more than SS. HUGE difference in wrist feel and yeah, some people may like Titanium on the wrist, but a $4,000 watch that has no heft is not something a lot of people will get behind. I would have purchased the Pelagos if it was made in SS. Ended up with 79230B BB Heritage 41MM and am very happy.
@j2dlyc
@j2dlyc Год назад
@@pmolitierno personally i think this whole weight criticism for titanium is silly. Weight doesn’t equal quality and coming from someone who lives in a hot climate, titanium is far more comfortable to wear than stainless steel. I would personally buy any watch in titanium over SS, given the choice.
@pmolitierno
@pmolitierno Год назад
@@j2dlyc Pelagos is a fantastic watch if you prefer titanium. the bracelet expansion feature is also a plus as well for hot climate as my Heritage 41 lacks this feature and I have noticed it on occasion.
@TheWorldOfAlexHall
@TheWorldOfAlexHall 2 года назад
I fell in love with the Pelagos 42 but always knew it was a no go with my thin wrists, this 39 may just be feasible! Thanks Tudor. Great review Adrian as always
@gandrew5363
@gandrew5363 2 года назад
Personally, I love it. I own one. The second I saw it I had to have it. And quite honestly I’ve been wearing it more than my Pepsi. It just wears so easy. It’s like you said, it’s extremely versatile. It’s a fine balance of luxury, and adventure.
@aliox1941
@aliox1941 2 года назад
What has happened to the Barkermeister??? No video in a month! Hope you are ok???
@helmarhuning4990
@helmarhuning4990 2 года назад
I think the Pelagos 39, being a toolwatch needs a date just like the 42. It would be even more versatile. A datewindow on the 6 would make it an almost perfect one-watch watchcollection. Great job Adrian and well done Tudor!
@Aceofswe
@Aceofswe 2 года назад
This 39mm Pelagos has so many things going for it. At least on paper. It looks quite big on many wrist shots though and next to the 42mm Pelagos, it just doesn't look as good. Maybe it's the red line of text and the shiny bezel. Someone said it looks like a Seiko diver, and I'm inclined to agree.
@yavornikolov6965
@yavornikolov6965 2 года назад
I am an occasional watcher since the beginning of your channel... And I think that this review was the most professional review I've ever seen. The editing, the information ... It is quite awesome to watch you grow as a professional.. Thanks man, not only for the reviews.. thanks for being true to yourself while trying to make money for a living.. thanks for not stopping, thanks for not selling yourself to big brands (hope you don't do it, please don't).. Thanks for motivating people work hard and chase passion...
@marconirschl1978
@marconirschl1978 2 года назад
Adrian, thank you for your video. You recommended the 2 Nato straps from your shop, which really look great. Since the lug width of the Pelagos 39 is 21 mm, which one did you show in the video, 20 or 22? It looks as if it fits perfectly! Thanks!
@thewatchidiot
@thewatchidiot 2 года назад
Gotta say I'm glad to see that the bezel is looking as matte as I originally thought it would be which is making me a very happy boy so let's see if my Pelagos is going to be getting a little brother😁 (21mm lug is irritating but oh well)
@gamezoneifictation
@gamezoneifictation 2 года назад
HE measured 21mm, its actually 20mm
@gamezoneifictation
@gamezoneifictation 2 года назад
@@PepRex Tudor is the source, not "people". Only Tudor knows it 100% and even posted on Insta that its 20mm
@bobj8877
@bobj8877 2 года назад
@@gamezoneifictation any source beside an Instagram comment? Because I have seen 21mm confirmed wayyy more and Tudor does not list the lug width on their website.
@lyness1217
@lyness1217 2 года назад
Pelagos is great an all but have you had your ear pierced?
@goldenarm009
@goldenarm009 2 года назад
I love the matte finish of the 42, if they made the 39 all matte it would’ve been the perfect watch. I’ve been begging for a slimmed down Pelagos for years but when you change the dna of the Pelagos and turn it into a 62mas it loses all its tool appeal. Somewhat disappointed but I will have to see it in the flesh
@michaelg8258
@michaelg8258 2 года назад
I had the same thought -- looks a lot like a titanium Seiko 62MAS. Which I love, so it's all good. Still, it's the BB58 for me.
@jackblah5842
@jackblah5842 4 месяца назад
Matt Sheen is my porn name
@123puneetk
@123puneetk Год назад
Fantastic review, inspired by it I reserved one with my local AD last month. Watch came in last week and I went to try it with a strong inclination of buying it based on review. However didnt like it for various reasons, the titanium makes the watch light and feels you are wearing a cheap knock off. The bracelet quality specially the clasp surprising was a downer with its sharp edges one could cut a lemon. Lastly, I have a PO 39.5mm blue, and this is no where classy as that watch. If ever I buy a Tudor, it will be BB 58 (black dial)
@taskerere
@taskerere 2 года назад
Loving the lume pip ear lobe
@BrittPearceWatches
@BrittPearceWatches 2 года назад
THE VIDEO IS FINALLLLLLY HERE!!! 😱😱
@funNactive1
@funNactive1 2 года назад
Love the new Dimensions. I'll get it next year when it comes out in blue.
@jchanisko1
@jchanisko1 2 года назад
As the proud owner of a full-size Pelagos (ETA powered Gen1 model), I find this new model to be a very sexy downgrade. Wondering if the full-size will be discontinued in the future? I realize a "true" divers watch shouldn't need a date function, but I like the novelty of the higher depth rating and helium escape valve. I definitely agree that the 21mm lug width is a misstep, 20mm tapering down to 18mm (or 16mm?) at the clasp would be awesome.
@jasonswitzer1748
@jasonswitzer1748 2 года назад
Preach, brother. I have the same Gen 1 42mm ETA Pelagos and feel the exact same way you do. I could get on board with the lesser depth rating, but the lack of a date complication makes it a no go for me. Otherwise, this is a pretty killer release for Tudor. My favorite of the last few years. Can’t wait to see one in person.
@andywilliams4887
@andywilliams4887 2 года назад
A very smart move by Tudor, making a more compact, thinner version of the original Pelagos that will appeal to a much wider audience. I think it has a more handsome dial than the 42's stepped design and like the 3D lumed markers and the solid in-house COSC movement similar to the BB58. Offering a titanium bracelet with the T-Fit clasp (instead of that ratchet-spring oddity) and a complimentary rubber strap is a big plus. For me it's a latter-day nod to the great 5-digit Rolex Sub in its overall dimensions and versatility - tough, yet can be worn with any attire and exuding quality. The 21mm lug width is a bit strange however.
@aejonsnow
@aejonsnow 10 месяцев назад
Its 40 mm because you use a protective tape on both side of your caliper and it will change the measurement outcome
@ATIWatchReviews
@ATIWatchReviews 2 года назад
Great comparison, that's super light, gonna be too light for me. I would prefer the 42 size also, but looks wise it would win definitely with that red on the dial. In my view, the rubber band buckle should be a proper diving clasp like the bracelet (like oysterflex) and they should offer a two tone version.
@mychaelhouck2404
@mychaelhouck2404 2 года назад
the light weight is definitely something I'd be concerned about also. I kind of like a little weight to my watches.
@kevinmccalister8197
@kevinmccalister8197 2 года назад
Dammit I would have hoped to put the P39 bracelet on my BB58...
@AndyMccllgh
@AndyMccllgh 2 года назад
It’s a super smart move for Tudor to essentially give the best alternative for folks who can’t get a Sub. More direct design parallels vs. a Seamaster and also the dimensions are quite attractive. I just don’t like watering down the tool-ness of the Pelagos brand/name, but this will be an incredible selling watch.
@lucaslucas9505
@lucaslucas9505 Год назад
What watering down? It’s a great watch
@word42069
@word42069 Год назад
I think the difference between 200m and 500m is negligible for 99.8% of people who buy/wear this watch. Also you could argue that in being titanium it is more tool-y than the original Pelagos. I get what you’re saying though but I think they were smart and relatively small changes to make this version.
@stu632
@stu632 2 года назад
I wear the 58 on an erika's Connery for swimming and it works great for that, I feel like James Bond 😂. I must admit the 58 was looking it's age a bit next to the new Pelagos. I love the T-Fit bracelet and that it is titanium. I also love my FXD and my favourite strap is probably the velcro one provided but it needs a keeper as the velcro comes away too easy. I will prob end up with one of these Pelagos as it ticks all the boxes and I am slightly happy it is more of a 40mm, but I need to maybe sell at least one watch, I have already bought 5 this year alone 🙄 I love them all!
@stu632
@stu632 2 года назад
I went in to look at the Pelagos 39 at my AD and came out with an Explorer 2 (Black dial)😂
@tz8559
@tz8559 Год назад
The 39 is PERFECT - Tudor did an incredible Job with this Pelagos the customers demanded it and Tudor delivered .... 10/10
@luqman_6097
@luqman_6097 Год назад
I hesitate between the BB54 and the PELOGUS 39.
@smr32061
@smr32061 2 года назад
I think Tudor has a home run here. 39-40mm is the sweet spot. Case thickness has been slimmed down. Now, like everything else, good luck on getting your hands on one.
@edteach3r
@edteach3r 2 года назад
So true!
@seanzealony9499
@seanzealony9499 2 года назад
Ruined my day with this vlog. I was looking at a Ranger as my next purchase but now…….. I’m not sure anymore This 39 is stunning
@Bignewshound60
@Bignewshound60 2 года назад
oh... this is the best review I've every seen you do. Keep doing it like this, please. You are bang on about the bonkers marketing. I own six tudors (thank you Gary at RL Austen, who also sold me my first datejust in 1984) but, I have always resisted the Pelagos... until now.
@stevenuk
@stevenuk 2 года назад
great video but where's the effing date ??
@benstoyles1297
@benstoyles1297 2 года назад
I really, really like this watch, and have started saving for the inevitable blue version in a year or so. The fully lumed indices is a fantastic development. Really glad to hear the sunburst is subdued, that was a big concern. I have 3 complaints, which I think are more mised opportunities more than anything: 1 - it should have the cut-out rehaut. I think someone will make a few quid doing an after-market one. 2 - the tip of the second hand should be red to pick up the red text, only one detail being red doesn't quite work. 3 - they should have made this one meet ISO 6425 and had DIVER'S 200m on the dial, justification for this in the next comment.
@benstoyles1297
@benstoyles1297 2 года назад
Tudor sits between Seiko and Omega in the "legit diver's watch that actual militaries have used under 5 or so grand" market. IF I was going to do legit diver things I'd be slapping on a P42 before any sub/seamaster/prospex; it's the most legit watch on the market. Seiko's main selling point is that they make affordable diver's in the £400+ range which actually meet ISO 6425 DIVER'S 200m, which is no small feat. A lot of the Swiss brands don't actually specify whether they meet this standard, we just take it on trust that they do. If the P39 was specified as meeting ISO 6425 then I think this would have two benefits: 1 - it demonstrates that the watch is a legit profesional tool, and not just a re-badged BB58, which is something I've already seen voiced repeatedly and I think justifiably (not helped by the marketing). 2 - it taps into Seiko's higher-end market and creates something aspiriational for Monster/Samurai owners, and to people looking at spending £1k+ on a Seiko diver "oh you're spending a grand on that? Grow up, save up a bit more and the Pelagos is waiting for you".
@Joacimbylehn
@Joacimbylehn 2 года назад
I do miss a date window, might not be the purist opinion, but it’s too useful not to have. Having said that, this is a crazy intriguing offering for me, who’s pondering a 90’s Rolex sub at silly silly prices.
@mikewatt3861
@mikewatt3861 2 года назад
Hey Adrian , I have had my Pelagos for 4 years now and there is not a mark/scratch on the strap or the watch. I think the Titanium option for Tudor is a great one. Makes the watch much more wearable. Great video BTW, love the comparison. I think the full size BB heritage is much better than the 58!
@yadongwang8629
@yadongwang8629 2 года назад
Just my own thoughts, if really a tool dive watch is needed. Seiko SPDC lines are excellent choices and serves the purpose with PADI certificates. The reason Tudor smallers size of Pelagos is to soften its tool watch impression. That’s why the ads models wear casual. But yet, they indeed give all the accessories for you to use as a dive. Funny. I only seriously dive once in Fiji. All the other times, watches rarely touch water.
@TheAndyMaan
@TheAndyMaan 2 года назад
I think they nailed it personally, looks like a great watch and if I had the spare money and I wanted a dive watch it's what I'd buy. I've though ever since they released the BB58 if they did a smaller Pelagos it would be a great watch. Instead on my limited budget I ended up getting a Citizen Promaster NY0040, it's been great actually so I'd struggle to justify spending 20x more on the Tudor.
@dr_bertlemann
@dr_bertlemann 2 года назад
Great review many thanks. This is a superb proposition from Tudor. I think it will trigger a lot of 58s being placed on the 2ndary market. For my wrist it is too small. Interesting to see how the Pelagos market will develop. I bought a 2018 42mm version used in 2019 in perfect, like new condition for 2.700 EUR which was the highest offer.
@donmongoose
@donmongoose 2 года назад
Seeing them side by side, the main thing that struck me was just how gorgeous the bracelet is on the 39, I love the 58 but the bracelet lets it down (imo) I know this obviously wasn't a lume test, but I'd be interested to see how well the hands hold up compared to the markers because in the brief sections we saw, they seemed noticably dimmer. Also, curious to see what this would look like with inverse colour - could be an absolute stunner (also, blue please). Great vid, can't wait to enjoy staring longingly at one through the local Tudor store window.
@matthewdouglas2373
@matthewdouglas2373 2 года назад
The BB58 faux rivets are a dealbreaker for me. I really wish that wasn't the case.
@scotty2hotty159
@scotty2hotty159 2 года назад
@@matthewdouglas2373 the ranger bracelet fits.
@jasonswitzer1748
@jasonswitzer1748 2 года назад
@adrian I’d like to see the lune compared between the two Pelogos’ as well. Which is brighter for longer?
@matthewdouglas2373
@matthewdouglas2373 2 года назад
@@scotty2hotty159 that’s a good tip I may have to ask my AD if they would be able to procure that. Sounds difficult to make happen though.
@stakon74
@stakon74 2 года назад
The marketing campaign is lifestyle because Tudor aims at the lifestyle side. Their ad strategy is spot on so far and they see themselves as a lifestyle brand. Look around how many ladies sport a bb 39 and you’ll get the strategy. Plus with recreational scuba diving exploding thanks to the business model of PADI more and more understand that nobody wears a diver watch anymore. We all wear a dive computer. So there’s your answer. Tudor is positioned as a lifestyle premium brand and sticks to the idea.
@jasonlmk88
@jasonlmk88 2 года назад
Absolutely love the direction they've taken with the Pelagos 39. The red text and subtle sunburst finishes really bring some much needed warmth to the rather clinical Pelagos 42. Having owned a Pelagos LHD, I would take the Pelagos 39 any day.
@cubex68
@cubex68 2 года назад
Give me a 42mm Pelagos with thinner case, less text on the dial and updated movement and clasp and I’ll be Tudor customer for sure, until then Tudor dive watches are not for me.
@ajgross67
@ajgross67 2 года назад
I really love this watch, and put my name down at 2 AD’s yesterday for it. I would much rather have a thinner watch over a super overbuilt watch, and the dimensions of this look amazingly spot on. The 21mm lug with will be annoying, and their marketing was incredibly bad for it, but I don’t care, I am super pumped. The one thing I wish they would have changed would be to keep the indexes cutting into the rehaut/chapter ring of the original
@gamezoneifictation
@gamezoneifictation 2 года назад
HE measured 21mm, its actually 20mm
@ajgross67
@ajgross67 2 года назад
@@gamezoneifictation Brent miller Jewelerys also measured 21mm, as well as a couple owners on WUS that I am aware of. Tudor’s Instagram initially posted that it was 20mm, but given the measurements from multiple sources I am going to say whoever their social media manager is was wrong
@gamezoneifictation
@gamezoneifictation 2 года назад
@@ajgross67 Tudor is the main source. Only Tudor itself can give 100% confirmation about it
@sk8ter9203
@sk8ter9203 Год назад
I was between Pelagos 39 and 42mm, I was trying both for about one hour and finally concluded that 39mm is more elegant but more feminine (on my particularly small wrist 6.5 inch). I mean this watch fits both men and women and 42mm only for men.. Finally I bought 42mm Pelagos. Don´t know why many saying it is heavy, bulky watch..no, I think it looks perfectly and not big (*on 17cm writst). Also, with 39mm I felt lack of weight. So I am happy with purchase, look awesome, quality value for money. Btw, the price for 42mm pelagos is now 4900eur I paid for a new one. Following the trend, I suppose in 2-3 years it will be higher...Cheers
@thomasloschner6170
@thomasloschner6170 2 года назад
First of all, thank you for this detailed review…more of this please. I own the BB 58 and I believe that it is an extremely versatile watch... but in my opinion it has a weak point in everyday life with the aluminum bezel. So I went to the concessionaire and tried on the Pelagos 39...the watch is great. It's a fusion of my BB 58 and NoDate Sub... Tudor could have hit it big! Anyway, I'm on the waiting list...!
@Matt_C_ookie
@Matt_C_ookie 2 года назад
Agree on the alu bezel 100%, it’s my fear with mine. If scratching is an issue then a full grade 2 titanium watch probably isn’t going to work either. They scratch ridiculously easy and it’s very noticeable. I think it’s the one thing stopping me from doing the swap, and I’d probably prefer this in full steel or G5 titanium for an every day wear.
@xchazz86
@xchazz86 2 года назад
I dont mind the new Blackbay Pelagos. For those who want something other than a Blackbay, theres a watch brand called Tudor that makes a model called the Pelagos FXD.
@i.am.hodgie
@i.am.hodgie 2 года назад
The perfect one watch collection, as the Submariner is for many. The sunburst elements add just enough to dress it up for smart casual, which I think is brilliant. If I didn’t have a Pelagos LHD already, I’d be picking one up. Thanks for a great comparo, Adrian.
@MasterSam85
@MasterSam85 2 года назад
I totally love the LHD, but it's too chunky for me. This 39 will do - I only wish they had left a roulette date like the LHD...
@i.am.hodgie
@i.am.hodgie 2 года назад
@@MasterSam85 I think eliminating the date was one way to minimize thickness, which is the biggest objection on the Pelagos. Personally, I’m ok with no date but this will be a turn off for many. To me, the configuration they’ve gone with keeps the focus on being a tool.
@RobertRazavi
@RobertRazavi 2 года назад
@@i.am.hodgie totally! The date adds a mm or two to this Kenissi made movement...
@acpulse
@acpulse 2 года назад
I sold my LHD a few years ago (purely to fund buying a home). This watch looks like I'm getting a Pelagos again!
@ge48421
@ge48421 2 года назад
The marketing campaign seems to acknowledge that this type of watch is typically bought by the people "in linen suits", urbanites with disposable income, and not recreational or professional divers. If I actually needed a touch-as-nails tool watch I'd be looking at Damasko or Sinn.
@yvelf
@yvelf 2 года назад
Great review as always! I really like this new 39 Pelagos. I feel it’ll have greater acceptance due to its more common size. But missing the date is surely an issue.
@blubb7711
@blubb7711 2 года назад
The Pelagos 39 reminds me of the SPB143. I still can´t wait to get my FXD, or even better, a blue 39.
@theovanderlugt8357
@theovanderlugt8357 2 года назад
Having owned the LHD, which is a relatively similar colourway, I thought I might be underwhelmed by the 39. However, in the flesh it is awesome. The bezel is incredible. The difference between unnatural and natural light is the difference between it being flat black and a completely faded grey. I can see this being Tudor's most popular model.
@gabefore
@gabefore 2 года назад
It appears to be a fine watch. For my money, however, the 42 is still the tops.
@callumryan2359
@callumryan2359 2 года назад
Tudor are absolutely on it right now with their last few releases! The FXD, BB-Pro, Ranger and now this Pelagos 39 are all fantastic… The BB58 is no longer the best Tudor has to offer IMO. Definitely considering selling mine to get a new 39mm Pelagos 👌
@MikoTheTomCat
@MikoTheTomCat 4 месяца назад
Just the clasp is a bit long and it kinda dangles and jangles with sharp edges
@juliendottavio5979
@juliendottavio5979 2 года назад
For me the 42mm Pelagos in blue was the obvious choice, as I enjoy the larger size and think over qualified specs are fun. However I have 7 3/4” wrists and I am larger. So I can see the appeal for those who are smaller and don’t power lift in their garage. Tudor is smart to make the Pelagos for all wrist sizes. Great review!
@King_Harrold
@King_Harrold 2 года назад
Exact same. I lift weights and train martial arts. I've got the BB GMT @ 42mm and a BB 58 Navy @ 39mm. Love the 58 for work with a suit, as it sits better with shirts and suits. But the GMT fits my out of work persona better. The Pelagos' LHD is the watch I'd like to procure next.
@dotover9013
@dotover9013 2 года назад
I don’t like Tudor, but I do like this…really was hoping for Mercedes hands.
@Jedi391
@Jedi391 2 года назад
It’s nice, but the 42 Pelagos just offers so much more.
@joelb6605
@joelb6605 2 года назад
Good review for sure.However I’m slightly surprised that you were surprised at the advertising angle.I think it’s absolutely aimed at the right demographic.I’m actually more interested now I know it’s got 21mm lugs as for me that’s actually a positive preferring a wider strap visually.
@richardwarren2024
@richardwarren2024 2 года назад
Do you think there’s room in a single collection for both this and the Black Bay 58, or are they too similar?
@Trail_of_Chaos
@Trail_of_Chaos 2 года назад
I like the smaller form factor, but I want a date function. Agree that this will age better than the faux vintage 58.
@I_like_YT_lots
@I_like_YT_lots 2 года назад
The RRP is worth more than a Sub over 10 years ago. With the current recession coming up and interest rate on the rise, better wait for the rep of this and save your money on something more important, like paying your electricity and gas this winter
@michaelrimmer338
@michaelrimmer338 2 года назад
Never buy a fake. Have some self respect.
@I_like_YT_lots
@I_like_YT_lots 2 года назад
@@michaelrimmer338 I do as I own lots of gens and is called I paid off my mortgage. Being a watch collector for over 30 years, I have enough self respect not to buy at this dumb hype and marketing. I had bought gen paul Newmans and Kermit at retail before this hype. I'm sorry £3k is a lot of money when a vintage Tudor snow flake can be bought at Munich watch show for less than 600 eur just over a decade ago. Double red single red were affordable enough without feeling like you had to re mortgage for it. When you got a Nautilus which cost more than a 5970 you can say this is getting out of hand
@MrGTFOplz
@MrGTFOplz 2 года назад
Not a big fan of titanium. If it was steel, would probably be an instant buy (if it was possible to get one 🤣). Cheers for the review Adrian 👍
@minibus1351
@minibus1351 2 года назад
I assume they will release the Pelagos 39 in a different colour in a year or so. I'll be interested in that.
@aliox1941
@aliox1941 2 года назад
The 39mm Pelagos- Great size, yes. Cool sunburst dial and bezel, yes. Thinner, yes. But three things would make it impossible for me to buy this Pelagos- 1- It has sacrificed its 1640 ft depth rating and is now less than the Rolex Sub (yes, it's just a testosterone thing!). 2- Importantly, they have eliminated the step-down on the dial! Sacrilege! The step-down is one of the absolute coolest things about the Pelagos as it gives the dial a three dimensional, sculpted appearance! The new dial is nice with the moderate sunburst effect but it is a flat face. They have raised the markers but it is not the same as the step-down that is so crazy cool! 3- No date. This is a personal choice but I want a date option! Sorry Tudor, nice watch in may ways but I will have to "step-down" from buying! I will stick with the original Pelagos, but I am 6'4" and 220 lbs, so it is not too large for me personally. I can understand some others will love the smaller size enough to pull the trigger.. But with no step-down or date option, we will have to make available this smaller version, for the little humans. ;-)
@tenchinhanu
@tenchinhanu 2 года назад
Don't care about your first point, but fully agree on the two others. A real shame, otherwise it would've been pretty much prefect!!
@petersaridakis8119
@petersaridakis8119 2 года назад
Outstanding video… might need to sale my Blue 42mm Pelagos, for a 39mm. I love my Pelagos, it’s just chunky to wear all the time.
@superfast30
@superfast30 2 года назад
First it was the endless amount of BB models now its the endless amount of 39 mm models lol
@kiwimark3875
@kiwimark3875 2 года назад
How do people review this watch without referring to how the straps change?.
@desjon6012
@desjon6012 Год назад
The P39 is the perfect alternative to the Subby, I am glad it actually measures 40mm at the bezel and has 21mm lugs. I have one reserved at my AD.
@MrZanzibar123
@MrZanzibar123 2 года назад
Lots of folks making more watch videos, but no one is making better watch videos! You rock, Adrian!
@markplayford5836
@markplayford5836 2 года назад
Cue B&J making 21mm straps NOW! 😉😆
@Khanh.Nguyen369
@Khanh.Nguyen369 Год назад
Just got mind and switched it to the rubber. I haven’t seen this covered anywhere but this rubber strap is terrible. I’m not sure if it’s missing a coating or the rubber in general but the rubber stick on itself. Putting it on and off takes forever. There’s no way this made it through R&D inspection. I love it on bracelet but on rubber it’s unusable. Anyone else experience this?
@newzealandisno1
@newzealandisno1 Год назад
I have mine on the rubber and it’s awesome. I never take it off though. Ever. I hated my Apple Watch because you need to take it off Soni now refuse to have any admin for watch.
@Ap0.Apostolov
@Ap0.Apostolov 2 года назад
Um … Adrian … do you drop your right ear earring for the videos? First time I noticed it due to the back light :)
@Brajin1
@Brajin1 2 года назад
Great video, I’m part of the larger tudors mafia, so I’m perfectly happy with my 42mm blue Pelagos 👍
@cameronbaulch7263
@cameronbaulch7263 2 года назад
You seem to have had a different opinion of the 42mm Pelagos when you reviewed it a couple of years ago.
@rmr5184
@rmr5184 2 года назад
I just bought a new BB58 blue two weeks ago. I would have preferred the Pelagos but it was way to big and as you say, not really versatile. Now they release a perfectly sized gorgeus Pelagos 39?! I hope I won't regret my decision. Greetings from Switzerland
@WestCoastAce27
@WestCoastAce27 2 года назад
Very interesting - really 40! Love everything - titanium, no date, splash of red, blue lume. On the list - will rotate with my BB Pro.
@f93nmx82
@f93nmx82 2 года назад
I love this watch. And yet another knockout timepiece from Tudor. The ceramic bezel and titanium set it apart from the Black Bay 58 range, and I am now absolutely convinced 39mm is the GOAT case size. I know you criticised the press shots, but oh my how good does it look by the pool or with a linen suit!? I'm tempted to get one myself, but my last two purchases have been Tudors so not sure I can justify three in a row! Regardless, I am jealous of those who gets a hold of one of these beauties. Great video as always Adrian.
@drdavidfoo6632
@drdavidfoo6632 2 года назад
Tudor knows their customers...the FXD is for real divers....this new Pelagos is mainly bought by people who do not dive
@christianpermann491
@christianpermann491 2 года назад
We have to stop referring to watches as tool watches. The times when mechanical watches were tools are long over! How many professional drivers would want to use a mechanical dive watch! How many professional pilots use mechanical timepieces? Exactly! So why can't we accept that wristwatches nowadays are collector items, luxury items, fashion pieces or just juwellery. Nobody buys them as tools and that's why they are advertised like this - which is completely fine!
@williamlasl
@williamlasl 2 года назад
Manly man self-delusion, I guess.
@markstarmer3677
@markstarmer3677 2 года назад
I personally like the bb58 (gilt and black on bracelet) as your demo, rather than both the pelagos watches. All superb watches though. The 42mm is too big for my wrist (7.25 inch) The 39 pelagos looks good, but being grade 2 rather than grade 5 titanium, and £3.5k, possibly a tad too expensive. I brought the bb58 about a year ago, and still adore it. Gets more wrist time than my Globemaster. Entertaining and informative video btw.
@Simscraggy998
@Simscraggy998 2 года назад
Simply perfect ticks every box 📦 and now the hunt begins. If the Pro is a 1655 then this is most certainly. A 7016 re edition. Awesome 👏
@cyberscooby69
@cyberscooby69 2 года назад
"pricks on eBay" - LOVE IT!!
@barryvercueil2346
@barryvercueil2346 2 года назад
Pelagos 42 is still the watch for me. I have a boxes of 20 and 22 mm straps that keep my watch collection entertained. 21mm Lug with just doesn't compute. Seiko SPB143 is a better option that the Pelagos 39.
@wheelsandwatches
@wheelsandwatches 2 года назад
Depends on price point. I am selling my spb213j1 having put down a deposit for this. The Tudor bracelet and clasp are a different league as is the movement. Tudor is also slimmer. No completion and not really compatible given the gulf in price.
@Hard_7_Iron
@Hard_7_Iron 2 года назад
Maybe people who “buy” this watch are the tools?…. Therefore, becoming a tool watch. I like the 39….errrr 40mm version. Nice video Adrian. As always.
@DeadReckoner
@DeadReckoner 2 года назад
The lume on the hands looks a tad dull, when compared to the indices; did it look that way in person, too?
@pratikl2000
@pratikl2000 2 года назад
I was waiting for this review to decide. You nailed it. Thank you for helping me decide to get this. 😊🍻
@colla5660
@colla5660 2 года назад
Pelagos 39mm or Black Pelagos 42mm next for me. I’ve honestly looked at other watch brands, I wanted a Green Seamaster 300m but the Pelagos range offers so much value for money it’s hard to look past it. I’ve got a Tudor BB and I love it by far my favourite watch in my collection.
@sherynissimo1993
@sherynissimo1993 2 года назад
Full fat pelagos LHD is still the pick of this crop. That colour scheme bridges the gap between BB and B/W Pelagos perfectly. The 42mm gives it presence on the wrist - 39mm looks rather weak in comparison
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