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High Performance Academy you are very intelligent and interesting when you talk to these guys. You catch them off guard all the time I love it keep it up buddy bad ass vids
I'm just glad Shane is willing to share what he does and is paid well for it. It's obvious if you guys don't know is that he's playing with oil wealth money from the middle east. Not hamstrung by real budgets, family life (not Shane's) and responsibilities (having more money than most humans can imagine) allows builds that we can only dream about. The information gained from these builds will filter down because it does take serious money to go fast especially without sponsorships though the truth is companies want to be involved with record breaking so they can hawk their products to others.
@@hpa101 I wasn't specifically talking about the Teknotoyz car which just ran 6.22 last weekend. But all the Barianian and Dubai cars he fools around with. All that data does filter down.
Andre chatting/interviewing Shane T! Every time either opens their mouth there is something to learn, and when you put them together you get a massive amount of priceless information. Thanks again HPA. 👍
I always look forward to the Shane T interviews as well. So enthusiastic with his great explanations! Hope there is another one from this years PRI, we'll find out soon 😎- Taz.
Thanks again,it's funny but years ago people said i was crazy to want to bleed off intake manifold pressure to fight surge.Then again we were also crippled by cast iron blocks splitting in half too lol......that and I was too stubborn to bail on VW's lol.Anyway it is really great to see real bleeding edge tech thrown out there for us to benefit and it is truly amazing how far things have come.I know how hard we struggled to break 1k from a 4cyl years ago 2k wasnt even a thought in our minds.
Because trolls see the video with no/low dislikes as well as expecting the video to show the car running down the strip even though the video says TECH TALK in the title...
Shane T is one of the best, if not THE best tuner in the world. Love hearing him talk about this stuff like its so obvious and simple. Disappointed you didn't ask him how fast his boat is though.
Shane explained things in such a definitive yet abstract way, it is the first time I have ever seen the parallel between tuning and software licensing. I almost got as excited about tuning as I do about licensing.
lol Ive been reading through comments as I listen right from the start, haven't seen what he looks like, id never question it if someone told me its dan akrord and hes balls deep into drag cars hahah
Hahahaha hes so proud of his numbers that he ran that last week, that's awesome. Get em dude! Thanks for sharing your info, it seems like that would be stuff you'd keep to yourself if your trying to win, but I think giving out strategies like that pushes the sport further cause then you have to think past that if everyone knows it. Great interview 👍
In drag racing, it has been proven through the years, especially on small displacement big turbo setups, that the use of air to air coolers is more efficient than air to water or no cooler at all, due to the reasons listed on the above interview. The same goes for ram air effect, as it is used on bikes, and turbo front facing applications. Even the knowledge is already in my possession regarding these interviews, more than twenty years into tuning, as I've said in the past these are quality interviews, which I nevertheless always enjoy watching. Keep it up guys!
That's what I said "in drag racing it has been proven through the years", those in the know are well aware and can verify this. The same principles that apply for no intercooler apply for air to water cooler. It just does not transfer and disperse heat fast enough and at adequate degree for the setup to reach peak performance, especially in small displacement big turbo setups.
No it's not. Firstly the cm2 area of a water/dry ice cooler no matter how icy that is, it is not enough to keep the increased cfm from a very large turbo with way too increased shaft speed to push the high intended flow on a small displacement engine to make the most power out of it at very elevated boost levels of 70+ psi i.e. Increased shaft speed means much hotter air, increased boost also means hotter air. Secondly, consecutive runs, apart from elevating the intake air temps, they also increase engine bay temps, which affect greatly the performance of a water/dry ice cooler located in the engine bay. Thirdly nothing is more efficient than a good quality right size front mount intercooler located as much away as possible from engine temps with an efficiently made nos/co2 sprayer on it.
If it's hard for you to read such a simplistic way of writing and content, then you need to improve your english. You are still wrong. The most efficient way to cool air is through a front mount intercooler along with the use of nos/co2 spray, for the reasons I mentioned. Also there are many a times where the water/ice cooler is indeed located in an engine bay, but even when it is not , its cm2 area is simply not enough, and becomes insufficient way for cooling, especially when dealing with application such as the one in the above video. What I'm saying can also be seen from other types of motorsport racing, such as time attack, circuit racing cars where the demand for cooling is even higher due to the type of racing they compete in. The only conditions water/dry ice cooler works efficiently enough, are on large to very large displacement turbocharged engines, including diesel setups for obvious reasons. Really large displacement setups have achieved records even without running any sort of air cooling. Another aspect that verifies what I say is the fact that if not all, most of 4 cylinder drag world records i.e, have been achieved with a front mount air to air cooler.
You sir are a morron, nothing else, you also know shit all about me lol,as I said you merely post here to create a quarrel , and at 20+ years in tuning I have met many like you.
You are wrong, and you will continue to be for the rest of your life on more than one aspects of it. Mechanical engineering degree means nothing. Plenty of people with one, have no idea how to build and tune a world record setup.Enough do not even possess the knowledge and experienece for the average setup. If you are looking for examples of setups to verify what I say, youtube is full of them, one of the best being the above video of the sr20det but here is a drag setup of which I know the build of and belongs to a friend of mine : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Oy0eQh8TYgk.html
Wow, just wow. So much profound turbo theory packed in this video. These interviews make me want to look up other top tier tuners and their tuning/turbo theory videos, but Shane is on a completely different level as far as knowledge and the desire/ability to share the info. Thanks.
I wish Shane would offer a tuning course online! I would pay in a heartbeat.. I hope he teach me someday 1/4 of his knowledge. So smart and humble, we need more humans like this. You can tell he's very passionate about what he does.
Been into cars, and have been an avid track lover since '96. At this level, it's more work than fun. Give me a bottom 8 second truly legit street car (full interior, heat, radio and AC) and I'm happy.
7;44 that's a proud man right there and quite rightly so and at 9 min the guy becomes a genius (at least to me) speaking in physics and mathematics id wager that this guy is one of the few
I have a question for @High Performance Academy With the current technology what is the best current performing turbo from Garrett / Precision / Borg Warner / Iroz ? of equivalent size Readability to be factored in as well.
Shane T is an inspiration and super knowledgeable/analytical but every time I watch videos/interviews of him online he reminds me of Dan Aykroyd from the "ConeHeads" or just in general .... he must be related to Actor Dan Aykroyd in some way lol . It so much work to get 4 cylinder to work and make that kind of power reliably ... cheers.
Actually it takes respecting the physical limitations of an engine with only 4 cylinders. It is just as much work to make a small displacement V8 make 4 digit horsepower.
Excellent excellent interview as always. You always ask the questions that really matter. If I may....the use of an air to air intercooler on a drag racing application especially with methanol, would that not actually be alot less effective than an air to water intercooler? Reason being that with a air/water cooler you have optimum cooling at the startline already versus an air/air cooler which only starts working efficiently after 300feet or so? Correct me if I'm wrong. Also how would an air/air cooler get the charge temps down anywhere near enough to have the effect spoken about in the interview?
Unless subjected to repeated back to back runs, an air to air will not heat soak. Rules dictate the use of an air to air in most cases or weight concerns because for an air to water to be most effective you need an ice tank. Understanding that an intercooler is an heat exchanger a properly sized intercooler will not cause a restriction that would heat up the air as it travel through it but bring inlet temps down. Since methanol is a cool burning fuel it does not have the BTU absorption of water, but does cool better than ethanol or gasoline. When running a turbo too it's functional limit anything you can do to bring the temps back inline will work.
I would add to Anthony's response... think of the volume of air that needs to pass through the intercooler (2+ litres for every bar). While water to air can be quite efficient in certain circumstances the smaller area of the core in a typical barrel would cause significant restriction in such high boost applications, and even if it could pass enough air, the ability to transfer the heat to the water would be severely impeded by the sheer volume. Don't get me wrong I think water to air has its own benefits, I am thinking of using one on my 2J IS300, but I can't see it working here.
Dodgy Brothers you make a good point. And in some cases that's probably spot on. But I did some checking and the guys in the video are using a water/air cooler. So somehow they managed to get around the issue of airflow restriction. I know the "barrel" design that you mentioned. But these guys made a complete custom jobbie. Looks like a big box in front of the motor.
Greth Vermaak The only way I see a water to air intercooler working is to use dry ice, or something similar to pull bulk heat from the intake charge / water medium. As long as the air passages equals more than the equivalent straight pipe volume I could see it working. Although there is a big BUT involved... Using some very rough math 83 psig (not actual boost) is 5.65 bar pressure + 1 bar atmospheric so 6.65 x 2 litres is 13.3 litres per cycle. Compare that to a street car running 1 bar of boost, that is only 4 litres per cycle. And as we all know from our car AC the higher the fan speed the hotter the AC temp is because there is a fixed amount of cooling available, and the more air that passes by the core the less chance it has to exchange heat due to air speed. If the water to air cooler was quite long it would perhaps increase the chances of taking more heat out of the charge. HOWEVER... You couldn't use a typical 19mm - 3/4" single water inlet / outlet. I would foresee something that would look more like a multi stage dry sump pump. The intercooler section would need to be modular to allow multiple sections to be simultaneously cooled. It is the only way to pull enough heat from the intake charge to be meaningful as the temp sours the more the air is compressed. As I say I am looking to do a water to air intercooler setup on my NA IS300 before I add some additional boost to the 2JZ in it. Being the 2JZ takes up a large portion of the small engine bay some creativity will be required to make it work. Currently I am looking to replacing the 2 into 1 pipe work that sits between the throttle and the intake manifold with an intercooler. I having been racking my brains to think if there might be a more effective medium to pull the heat out intake charge. Water with water wetter might be fine, but I wonder if I could use something like LPG or another gas that could do a better job. LPG is stored as a liquid so the intercooler could pull all the temp out of the liquid changing it into a gas, the only problem is cooling it enough to return it to a liquid.
Watch these two vids Suave :) - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DJtdX7tsKwk.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_Z37lpsfhXk.html
So far from the truth. The secret doesn't lay in the knowledge, the secret lays in understanding the permutations of the knowledge. It's like yep understood all that now let me go do it... Ok where do I start first? Understanding how everything works simultaneously, and knowing how each component is going to react as a result of a change to another and understanding the big picture is what separates the men from the boys when it comes to tuning.
Hi i'm a new follower. And a true compound fan Realy like shane, he has a lot of knowledge. Can you do a video about kevin jewer of six sigma tuning. He earned it......
Gob-smacking output for such a small engine with reliability and so much awareness of all the problems faced - very, very smart guy! As an aside, what driveshaft material is he using - I was wondering if the potential for engineered torsional flex with carbon fibre would help dampen the spikes to the tyres? Two possible alternatives for the velocity reference - ground speed radar and, can't recall it's correct name, but instead of using satallite signals for reference it uses transmitters placed on the ground for triangulation. Oh, three - accelerometers to corrolate actual acc'n, and hence velocity, against the calculated wheel (or tread) speed.
Hope you have success following up on it - back in the day it was so easy for families to lose contact with each other, must have been heartbreaking for so many of them :-( Damn, I'm such a softie - tearing up a bit at the thought of all those families waving goodbye to their children sailing away to the new world, never to hear from them again, never to know what happened to them.
You know what I'm amazed at the amount of knowlage when I watch these videos, but for me i almost think you need to be a tuner to keep up and understand fully lol very interesting tho :)
The numbers are getting astronomical. With the test setup it hit 130 Psi but needs some changes to control the boost once it goes over 95 Psi. Not sure when the next round of testing with those changes will be, but it's pretty exciting for sure! - Taz.
Ryan Bernard it's like the landspeed version of a pitot tube, which is used for air speed measurements. I guess torpedo tube is just slang for pitot tube. That's what we always called it
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