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Turn boring drum hits into a GROOVE with ghost notes 

Underdog Electronic Music School
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Let's take a drumming technique used by acoustic drummers & apply it using electronic tools: ghost notes! You could add these spicy little notes simply by drawing them in using velocity, but let's explore the idea of using delays for this instead.
I do this in Ableton Live and use the native plugins and also the Reason VST for its "The Echo" unit.
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Contents:
0:00 What even are ghost notes?
1:04 An example in Ableton Live
1:45 Draw in MIDI Velocity
2:11 Using Live's Delay
3:21 Using Live's Echo
4:33 Using Reason VST "The Echo"

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9 июн 2024

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@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 года назад
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@le-berry
@le-berry 2 года назад
Ghost notes are essential for any groove to be real. People tend to think you need notes and accents in all kind of levels. That's not the case there are tree kind of notes. Normal hit, Accented hit and Ghost hit. The Accent and Ghost are relative to the normal hit of course but have the two qualities of the accent hit being percievably louder and the ghost hit needs to be noticable but as soft as the arrangement, song and mix allows for the maximum effect of the function of those two.
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 года назад
That’s a great way of teaching it indeed! Just 3 levels of hits, super helpful for beginners!
@haslo_
@haslo_ 2 года назад
An alternative would be to put the delay into an FX group, in a parallel chain and at 100% wet. Slightly more complex, but then you can automate the volume of the send to that delay, and the delay tails will run out naturally instead of being cut off as they are with Dry/Wet automation. Alternatively, using the delay as a send effect with an FX send track would work too, automating the send. Oscar knows this, but maybe others in this comment section don't 😁
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 года назад
The old dub delay approach, excellent 👌
@Slurkz
@Slurkz 2 года назад
Thanks for the video! 💜 Neat trick. “Controlled dub-mixing”. I loved the Reason cameo.
@milaberdenisvanberlekom4615
@milaberdenisvanberlekom4615 2 года назад
I'm learning so much dude you're such a great teacher. Your channel is invaluable for novice producers that are looking to level up
@maxpecas2
@maxpecas2 2 года назад
Lol, while watching the beginning of the video, I was thinking it would be so perfect if Oscar could mention the playful Reason theEcho here and demonstrates it. And boom, 10 sec later he does it... 😊. Just perfect video, as always....
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 года назад
Hahahaha ow yeaaaaah 😎
@RegularDude00
@RegularDude00 Год назад
Really cool that so many people take the time to make these guids for free!
@EuphoriaMusic1
@EuphoriaMusic1 2 года назад
Boooo! Just gotta let you know how much passion you've pushed on to me while doing the more I depth underground sound stuff you've been putting up. Mad props 👏. You've got yourself a long life subscriber.
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 года назад
😘
@sorycoulibaly594
@sorycoulibaly594 2 года назад
its amazing to see Oscar learning new things while teaching us
@citizenoftheverse4653
@citizenoftheverse4653 Год назад
Another good video that goes straight to the point!
@enoodle
@enoodle 2 года назад
this is such an important concept, groove is everything! thanks for tips
@mennovanwijk2967
@mennovanwijk2967 2 года назад
Really clear and concise 💛 nice stuff
@onemanvoin
@onemanvoin 2 года назад
I love that soft glare on the head from the lamp (artists fetish lol). nice. NICE
@mihovil5806
@mihovil5806 Год назад
Best teacher... Just got artist kick samples with underdog code. ✌️✌️✌️
@nsjx
@nsjx 2 года назад
killer tip right there. i knew the tried and tested delays b/t hits BUT i never realky thought go crazy with the settings of the advanced delay units line Echo and blend those. of course my prev undersrandibg of ghost notes is that they are more to enhance groove than to actually be heard but i really like the Result here. thanks A lot, Oscar.
@adamflavors439
@adamflavors439 2 года назад
NICE! I really needed that info on the delay and echo the way you delivered it, thank you so much for that! So you're really pushing these Reason VST subscriptions, I'd like some other plug ins to be further used if you get the sponsors to deliver. Popular plug ins such as how you use mixed in key or captain plug ins in your work flow, or maybe kick shaping plug ins, etc.
@OlivierTuto
@OlivierTuto 2 года назад
Excellent trick! Thank you Oscar!
@etskanglei170
@etskanglei170 2 года назад
Very useful tip! Thank you
@oscarherrerar.3496
@oscarherrerar.3496 2 года назад
thank you for sharing your knowledge and ideas
@fr0kenfaia
@fr0kenfaia 2 года назад
Sweet😃 thanks!!
@OperculumAudio
@OperculumAudio 2 года назад
Def going to use this in my upcoming tracks
@reachingplanets1
@reachingplanets1 2 года назад
Thank you
@davidpurple3698
@davidpurple3698 2 года назад
Thanks - very nice groove
@Carefullyprepared
@Carefullyprepared 2 года назад
Super cool Oscar!
@kbutterum
@kbutterum 2 года назад
Alright I’ll be taking your course in the near future
@andycordy5190
@andycordy5190 2 года назад
Excellent! I really love the strange stuff you sometimes encounter. Love the playful potential here. I'm a fan of old fashioned dub, particularly Dennis Bovell (aka. Blackbeard. He has many other aliases😄), Mad Professor, Sly and Robbie, of course. More recently Electro-dub artists like Panda dub and Sumac dub, both from France. It's a different but related craft going back into the early 70s. Much of what the reggae artists Lee Scratch Perry and King tubby did experimenting with the extremes of tape delay and crude plate reverb effects led to developing analogue delay lines and then into the evolution of digital.
@TheValueOfN
@TheValueOfN 2 года назад
I'm obsessed with the French dub scene. Zenzile et al are worthy of being analysed because of their apparent mastery of mixing the subs with superb beats and new ways of interpreting old ideas.
@TheSporkimusPrime
@TheSporkimusPrime Год назад
As always thank you for your videos! Used to do modtracking back in the day. Purchased Acid Pro 10 to do some metal recordings and EDM is still a passion. I have been able to do SO much catching up to the modern DAW experience with these videos. (Yes I realize the irony of saying Acid Pro and modern in same sentence, but I like the DAW). I used BlueArp and various free synths and can do plenty
@zachary963
@zachary963 2 года назад
I generally do this with Midi… I have a rock background (my drum heroes include Neil Peart, Stewart Copeland and Boris Williams) so drum fills and ghost notes are my favorite things.
@vincentcambier
@vincentcambier 2 года назад
really enjoyed your masterclass in Ampere!
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 года назад
Cooool :D
@jeroenderiek8612
@jeroenderiek8612 2 года назад
do you mean the video?
@daviddechamps8840
@daviddechamps8840 2 года назад
Very useful!
@Hexaliohm
@Hexaliohm 2 года назад
Thank you sir
@MrPeter924
@MrPeter924 2 года назад
Great video great show 👍 drummer
@coutcou
@coutcou 2 года назад
You give me the smile every video 🤣 nice content
@InVisionsynthmindscape
@InVisionsynthmindscape 2 года назад
Very Cool 🙂👍🏻
@kausambirajbarua5293
@kausambirajbarua5293 2 года назад
Nice 👍🔥
@birajshrestha709
@birajshrestha709 2 года назад
really loving this class.. do u have a full track of this music played in this video?
@mohammadebrahimi5205
@mohammadebrahimi5205 2 года назад
best ever
@noodlesushii
@noodlesushii 2 года назад
NICE
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 года назад
NICE
@kausambirajbarua5293
@kausambirajbarua5293 2 года назад
Oscar please do tutorial on Purple Disco Machine.
@lillehammerexperimental
@lillehammerexperimental 2 года назад
great video thank you... sorry gotta ask which speakers are those ? :)
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 года назад
Adam S3V's. Recently upgraded from my A7X which I had for 10 years - these are a price category up for sure, but the 3-driver design is super super helpful for the ear.
@G7777K
@G7777K 2 года назад
This ain’t about the video but good lord I hate the unison audio chord pack ads. OBNOXIOUS!
@rinocarella
@rinocarella 2 года назад
hi man thanks a lot for your contents ! can i ask you wich monitor are beyond you ! thanks a lot
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 года назад
They are adam s3v monitors! Upgraded recently from a7x!
@loveyoutube369
@loveyoutube369 2 года назад
How can I send you a track for analysis..Love your work..and I follow your tutorials..
@javitrujillo
@javitrujillo 2 года назад
nice Nice NICE NICEEEE
@Froxono
@Froxono 2 года назад
Love you Oscar
@dball_94
@dball_94 2 года назад
Any chance your Torc alias is inspired by Torc waterfall/mountain in Killarney, Oscar? I know you mentioned you had folks in Ireland at one point
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 года назад
It is! Nice one! 😁
@dball_94
@dball_94 2 года назад
@@OscarUnderdog My home town.. might see you around the place sometime 😂
@DeanKennyMusic
@DeanKennyMusic 2 года назад
Another Irish fan here 🇮🇪
@EoinKeithBoyle65536
@EoinKeithBoyle65536 2 года назад
Was wondering, but as I grew up in the States you learn not to talk about Ireland too freely....
@Chrispwilton
@Chrispwilton 2 года назад
@@OscarUnderdog thought you had an Irish head on ya alright! Nice one!
@Joseph-fs4kh
@Joseph-fs4kh Год назад
nice NICE nice nice NICE!
@arlandobattle
@arlandobattle 2 года назад
I like doing this, but I run into a few issues. 1. It becomes a little too busy sounding if you over do it 2. It's easy to get a lot of mud. 3. This might sound good for headphones but I don't know how it would translate into a club, it might sound like something isn't beat matched?
@7thNoteOfficial
@7thNoteOfficial Год назад
I never use ghost notes ive never really tried it out now i will
@alphastar5626
@alphastar5626 2 года назад
Amazing!! So even if the Dry/Wet Signal is at 0 during the ghost note, turning it on just after does the delaying of the said ghost note??
@mrkhaijyo
@mrkhaijyo 2 года назад
The delay processing is happening the whole time. (All hits) The dry/wet knob is just a mixer that allows the processed signal to pass / mix into the dry. I think what you're imagining is automating the send, which would require a non zero value at the time of the hit to be processed.
@alphastar5626
@alphastar5626 2 года назад
@@mrkhaijyo okay I see!! Thank you for your clear explanation!
@Ekolapolis
@Ekolapolis 2 года назад
Thanks a lot for the video ! Any chance to find the track you made at the end ?
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 года назад
Am still finalising it as a Face the Sun track! 😮 follow that soundcloud page to get it when it comes out!
@Ekolapolis
@Ekolapolis 2 года назад
@@OscarUnderdog Great news ! For sure, coming right now on your SoundCloud
@Artes.Antorcha
@Artes.Antorcha 2 года назад
me: Stuck in a production where I can't close the drums ...I still don't feel the groove. oscar ( breaking the fourth wall ) oi! you! i got the key! ♥♥♥
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 года назад
😁💚
@slippyg
@slippyg 2 года назад
Quick.question; what's the benefit of creating the new lane? Can't you just change the drop down in the original lane? Or is it just to make it easier to see?
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 года назад
it's to leave a mental note to myself in the future to remind myself that it's automated :)
@slippyg
@slippyg 2 года назад
@@OscarUnderdog Ah cool, knew there had to be a reason. That's very true, the automation if multiple tend to get a little hidden in ableton. I like it, thanks mate.
@fvcvbvcbccbc2803
@fvcvbvcbccbc2803 2 года назад
does techno rumble has a key of it?
@phosphorusmusick
@phosphorusmusick Год назад
I'm still kinda new and ignorant when it comes to producing electronic music. So, I got some samples and I painstakingly import them and shift the audiofiles around within the audio bar and I don't know how to get my samples into a MIDI-Format. It's probably more complicated than it needs to be. Can anybody help me? I'm using Cubase Artist, probably a bit stripped off compared to the Producer version. There must be some kind of Drum Sampler but I don't know.
@TabeApe
@TabeApe 2 года назад
Love your nails
@CatraValentine
@CatraValentine 2 года назад
Reminds me of Wetje (?) from White Sea Studios who also experimented with colours lateley. MOAR colours, MOAR fun, fuck those simple minded haters! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3hqvYGfiYHU.html
@OscarUnderdog
@OscarUnderdog 2 года назад
🥰
@mohammadebrahimi5205
@mohammadebrahimi5205 Год назад
PLS THE NEXT HOW TO USE DELAY FOR GROOVE LIKE A PRO
@radar5743
@radar5743 2 года назад
acc snare is way too quiet throughout the whole video making the instruction a bit pointless lol
@grodspott
@grodspott 2 года назад
Nah, just turn up that hearing aid grampa :)
@slunkzilla
@slunkzilla 2 года назад
You’re wrong, you can hear the snare perfectly fine
@AMX2013
@AMX2013 2 года назад
you should prob use headphones for these brother
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