Turns Out the Hagravens Were Planning Something... 

My thoughts exactly xD. At this point I'm pretty sure a lot of the plotlines they leave unanswered are because they don't want to make a mess they need to retcon later, not just for the sake of leaving them for mystery of future games

@Josh -_- #WelcomeToBGS xD

Yeah I feel like Nate gives Bethesda too much credit when he talks about how they left stuff incomplete for "mystery" or whatnot. I think they just have good ideas but forget about some of them

@@afarensis9720 Eh, I don't think they just "forgot", at least for a majority of them. All I will say is Bethesda's quality didn't go down overnight. We just may not have seen the full picture at that point

your learning java? cool

Dragonborn later: Oh look, they can fly!

There’s forsworn East of Whiterun? How did I ever miss that

Forsworn: “NOOOOOO! Years of planning, and preparation! You can’t just destroy the army we’ve built! Muh sovereignty!” Dragonborn: “HaHa Unrelenting Force go FUS RO DA!”

No, I think he misspoke, he meant the eastern border of The Reach, where it borders Whiterun.

Safest city in the reach.

That was how I accidentally found it the first time. I was just cruising the mountain tops on my magic bouncy pony and fell down into it. I was so glad when I found the cave out 'cause I had no idea how to get back up the mountains from there.

Me: Shimmy to the left. Jump. Shimmy to the right. Crouch jump. Shimmy shimmy shimmy...JUMP!

Then the eye of the Tiger song starts to play as you go up the hill

@@brushdogart glad I'm not the only one, I also spoiled cloudruler because I saw it and started jumping

@@pyrotheevilplatypus thats how i got up to the greybeards my first time playing didnt pay attention to dialogue so thought their was no stair case

them and the falmer i hate and avoid dwemer ruins when i can those things creep me out

@@cjvaye99 I loved killing those things until I found out they eat people, I still decimated them but I no longer feel bad about it

I thought anise would turn into a hagraven when I first saw her

This one hates Hagravens. So this one got a mod called "The Ravens No More Generic Hagravens." Now they are much easier on the eyes.

Trolls aren't? Lol or werewolves? There just as creepy as hagraves

Right? I can't believe the terrifying bog witch bird-women who decorate exclusively with bones and dirt were up to something

@@professionalpainthuffer å

One can only hope

Jokes on you, they won’t make a 6 and just make 5 over and over again

100 years of ES5

nah, "make note of that shit, we gotta add some more lore points that contradict that and deepen the mystery and lack of answers" todd howard likes unanswered questions

@@TheJacob232 They probably don't even know the meaning of "Canon" at Bethesda lol. Almost every major plot in Skyrim that actually matters ends in some variation of "We fixed it, right?". I look forward to the outcry if they ever dare to confirm who wins Skyrim's civil war

Also Gabriella: Kill the Emperors cousin at her wedding in Skyrims capital with the Jarl Of Solitude&potential Queen of Skyrim in attendance.

Look at muh horse, muh horse is amazing!

Did she cheat on me???

I get it ;)

Oh crud...somehow I married her too, and I'm a female. Khajiit not like

She Is a player

Bruh that’s like what happened to me, was there a goat involved somehow?

they even rub thier little claw hand things

Maybe they just have bad posture? Granted, I'll still let this statement pass considering that Hagraven's are clearly not any kind of "good" or "benevolent"

Have you seen the way flies rub their hands together? They’re secretly behind all the violence because it means more food for them! :0

all they are missing is a little mustache to twirl

@@Altair1243WAR maybe they evolved from pangolins... have the same posture and scheming hand gestures

Haha! Yes, I blew her off the cliff too- insta-kill!

Elena's Dragonborn: Well Well Well looks who's standing at the edge of a cliff. It'd be a shame if someone were to shout.

Top 5 trees

I would love to see that, since mount chilliad always seemed a big mystery to me!

Can you investigate why my dad never came back from getting cigarettes Nate?

*INVESTIGATE WHERE IS MY COLLECTION IS NATE?*

@@secretagentcat LMFAOOO

A Nate follower that says random comments about the area you are in and can ask more about the location? That would go excellent with the Legacy of the Dragonborn mod.

That would be useful

Yes please

So a male serana

Yes i need

But also perpetuated a bunch of evil plans.

@@Tlevids Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

@@Tlevids I mean... depends on whether you destroyed the Dark Brotherhood or joined it.

Krii pah do niin

@@astranix0198 pruzah ro

Same, I love watching Nate's videos while playing Skyrim

A year later and nothing

Same

His videos are my personal choice for ASMR.

Detective sherlock

Ad victoriam, knight.

Depends what order is this knight from. If Lyons's then ad victoriam, if Maxson's then haha and pop goes the balloon. Edit: screwed up the names

FrenZ Lyons all the way

@@brotherhoodknight7246 Hell yeah! Sarah's Simp Team Six! Hooah!

We’ve got this area locked down

He's saying that *everybody* is "planning something."

Dude thats hilarious!

Beautiful just beautiful

Next video title: How Mjoll is the most evil character in Tamriel.

Ok dengeir of stuhn.

Or "murdered to death

The night slowly draws to a close in the Bee and Barb. The ale has flowed, the songs have been sung, and the snow lies asleep on the hills and peaks of the Rift as, one by one, the patrons retire to their rooms and elsewhere in Riften, to sleep, perchance to dream of love and passion, and lives forever together.... And it seems, as the embers slowly sink into somnolence, that you will return once again to your lodgings once more, ever alone, forever unloved, forevermore bereft of the pleasures of wedded life. And, as you sigh at the sight of the dregs of your last drink, the bitter dregs that must be drunk yet again, you notice not the one last straggler, the lone stranger left here, in the Bee and Barb. You notice not his beauty, nor the mesmerising amulet he wears, he whom Mara has brought here ... for you. You notice not his warm smile, his light in his eyes, his desire and his delight in your beautiful face and form, until, that is, leaning over, he gently takes your hands in his, and he lifts your face to his, and he kisses you tenderly as if for forever. And you look up and see him, as if all the world were contracted thus into the one, the one wise man in the world of Tamriel. The one wonderful man who even the daedra would weep to see unloved and loveless. The one man who desires you. And then he whispers an endearment that would even seduce the stars to sing of love and life.... And then he whispers, as he leads you to his bed and board, a life of love and passionate desires: "Without further ado, let's do furniture...."

Which we could say the same about your body count

Wow, everyone in this comment section is contributing to the theory, and im just over here like "i want ramen!"

@@ccartdoodlez4572 now I want ramen too..

Your "thought" is way more likely than the theory presented by this video =/

Retjia makes sense. The Forsworn worship the Hags anyway. They are consistently seen governing their own covens of Forsworn groups. As memory serves theres even a quest where you have to save a woman in a Forsworn camp from her mother who it turns out was a Hagraven leading the Forsworn in the area and was intending on turning her daughter into one too. Meanwhile the Forsworn were literally just following her because she was a Hag. The Hags are the ones who create the Briarhearts too who are amongst the most influential members of their culture, so it would stand to reason that the Hagravens are matriarchs of that society and the Briarhearts are those chosen by the matriarchs. *The* matriarch could then be the leader of the rest of the Hagravens, like a great uniter which is present in all sorts of prophecies in basically every fractured civilisation

@@ethanquirk28 My hypothesis is that the Foresworn became more organized after they nearly got wiped out. I mean... seems natural.. you have 8 tribes, 5 tribes dies, now instead of 8 leaders you have 3. Eventually you might get new splinter groups, but that takes time.

me too mate

same

same

the 4th here

5th

My hypothesis is that the efforts to wipe out he Reachmen tempered their resolve and forced them to work together.

The hagraven rule them, and the briarheart ritual gives the hagraven irresistible control of the warrior. If you read all the notes and books, you can learn all about it.

He almost gave me a heart attack

It was a dark room and I just put my headphones on... Almost fell down the stairs.

that opening was (excuse my langauge) fucking terrifying

I don’t get it, that is one of my favourite quests.

*A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEAC-* **throws hammer at tv**

@@McPlayer8t its because of how obnoxious the start of the quest is.

I was 11 the first time I found that beacon. I didnt find it until I was looting the cave I had just killed Boethiahs champion in and had no health. Scared the hell outta me; ive never spun around swinging so fast

@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim not the quest, Merida herself. Her attitude basically comes off as 'you are mortal ants under my shoes and must do what I say.' Sheogorath and Sanguine are my two favorites. They're two of the more entertaining ones

Old comment but I have to agree the sound when I first heard it in one of the fort towers during the night creeped me out since I was not familiar with the lay out of the tower all I know was the sound was very close but I head no idea where it was really coming from until much later. I could not help but be remined me of the "Regenerators" from resident evil 4.

glad they didnt.. cause its dreadful.. as a no fk's giving dragon born.. i do give fks about the health of my ear drums... soon as the hag teleported to the next room after i beat her the first fight.. she'd be like "ok peoples.. get ready.. the dragonborn is coming" then 1hr passes by.. 2.... 3.... 4 hrs.. she would have been like "um.. hello.. dragonborn... where'd u go... ur suppose to kill me.. stop me from world domination" me in markarath inn telling stories to the wenches *then there was this ungodly sound... so i left. fk it.. i can twerk to that... and here i am with you.. my lovely wenches... just grab as much gold as i could on my way out the dungeon... so FREE BEERS ON ME...." 😂

@@InanisNihil TBH, free rounds in Skyrim would probably be like a blessing from the nine lol. IDK how anybody affords anything in Skyrim, considering the average citizen can't wander the countryside/raid the dungeons for loot. Even as the Dragonborn, you don't really make money from them until you're high level & then you're selling Daedric gear which, considering the source, it should be worth a lot

I'd guess they were considering making the witches more interesting. The first room is rather well decorated and comfy. having music with dinner wouldn't be bad.

i think that youd enter a room with a beautiful female playing the harp. and when you interupt her she becomes the hagraven

@@kaiseremotion854 that or maybe one of the coven members is playing. Maybe it didn't get implemented because they didn't have a harp playing animation? it seems simple but probably isn't.

eh? Doesn't "Forsworn" mean to have lied under an oath?

@@deathvirus5514 You're thinking of Perjury, which is a type of forswearing, but being Forsworn is more general. Other acts than simple lies can cause it to happen. For example, if you make an oath or vow never to eat a hamburger again, and you later eat one, you have broken that oath, and are forsworn.

As much as I enjoy Nate's videos he doesn't do a good job at fact checking himself. In this case he got two quests confused.

Shhhhhhhhh 🤫🤫

I was about to comment this. It's a nit-pick, to be sure, but an accurate one.

@@Luke32336 it's not a nit-pick. He made a statement that directly contradicts game dialogue that he used to back up the statement. It's a glaring, careless error. And I see them too often in this dude's videos.

@@Luke32336 just a clarification, since you don't seem to be aware. A nit is the egg of a louse, and is incredibly tiny. Picking out the nits is the most time consuming and irritating part of treating a lice infestation, as it is very hard to see them in the hair and on the scalp. Picking nits or nitpicking is to pick at something so small as to be nearly impossible to notice. In colloquial use, this is in reference to pulling out and drawing attention to a detail so tiny that it would normally not even be noticed, bordering on irrelevant. In this case, Nate literally stated one thing, and then played a clip of the NPC stating the exact opposite, i.e., "hide the body," followed by "make sure it is found as quickly as possible in a major city." This isn't a detail so small and irrelevant that few would even notice. A nitpick, this is not.

@Giin I'm glad you brought up irrelevance. The main point of this video is "who is the matriarch/those chickens are up to something" and the line in question points you to their main base. As it's only vaguely related to the point of the video, it hardly matters that he was incorrect/misspoke, because it doesn't undermine the main point, therefore nit-pick.

I came here to say this

She's so gonna get her cloaca wrecked when he comes home on the games he's freed. You're welcome for the mental image.

@@NWolfsson you really had to put that out there huh? Couldn't have kept that to yourself?

@@YlvaTheRed Sorry, some truths are too strong to be contained in a single mind.

Hey man, SOMEBODY has to read all those letters Madanach's apparently been writing.

was he tricked into the marriage by a certain god as well?

Same

. . . Collab????? I want a collab now

It used to happen to me

Me too.

Who would even have need of two dragons at that point? Given the Dragonborn's mastery of The Thu'um, which is impossible to replicate in the life span of a single mortal, nobody could even stop them by force Now, if Alduin/Miraak, etc... show up looking to party, by all means, summon away

@@Altair1243WAR just to flex

*Alduin is saying fuck you in dovah*

awesome theory, honestly could make as a good quest for the next game

I was thinking the same thing and that the Wolf Queen Potema could be the matriarch in question, or a deadra perhaps. Would have made for an awesome side quest. Who knows, maybe Elisif is just secretly evil.

Eh... I've already killed most of the falmer. Doubt they would have enough to start an army with them.

Same man

I listen to nate and camel a lot while going to sleep. Really good and really informative videos, great for listening to while grinding on a game or while laying down to sleep or just relax.

What the fck falling asleep to this Aswell

sauce

@@nudlz5343 Source: Elf-san Wa Yaserarenai, Chapter 38 Character: Oga-san Sauce of the pic: twitter.com/synecdoche445/status/1268826353073180672

Sounds Very kinkyyyyyyyyyyy.

God no

Pelinal? But You Died

Or did he?

this one met a cult that worships you in morrowind. sadly, they attacked. this one was forced to kill them. this one hopes you are not upset at that.

That's actually a pretty good theory

Or Madanach..

@@SamDy99 Hey, they might call him "Matriarch" too. I could certainly see Madanach demanding he be called "Matriarch" because it makes him feel pretty.

@@mesektet5776 the "king in the rags" sounds more badass tho lol

You're right matriarch means female head leader so if it was male he would be called patriarch

It might have still been in development up to the present day were that the case. Just getting rid of all the bugs would have cost them several years worth of work. I mean, there are sooooo many bugs in this game that every time I fire it up, I pull out a new can of Raid Bug Spray.

@@phillipallen3468 meh, they'd just let the modders fix the bugs themselves. Bethesda develops games as shells to be filled and finished by the players. Or at least, that seems to be their unofficial stance. They decide the canon, but the players perfect the execution.

I don’t think my console would be able to handle that 😭✋

One would hope this is why Elder Scrolls VI is taking so long, but I doubt it.

@@FredRated1967 that would be awesome but I won't get my hopes up

Probably just the second great war between the empire and the elves. Or the vampire threat... Or the fact one of her court is plotting against her ... Or the forsworn themselves... there are endless possibilities really

@@laurene988 Which is why we investigate. Gotta figure out which has supporting information

The thing about Gravity is that no F's are given to anyone. If you don't have some sort of countermeasure prepared, you could be Maxos from the Divinity universe & still die if it's high enough. Power is irrelevant at that point

Exactly. By the time I got to the final fight spot I was so sick of her shit and just immediately shouted her off the roof. Though honestly I half expected her to just teleport away again and was pleasantly surprised when she thudded to the ground.

I literally built an illusion stealth theif (almost no combat skills) purely so I could do this

@@NotTheHeroStudios :o I wanna try that now!!!

@@maelavdrak all you do is trail illusion, sneak, pickpocket, and one hand (or bow) so you have some sort of combat abilities as you level. Or you can do illusion only combat where you just frenzy everyone and go invisible. Or use the necromancer stone / conjuration The last is really up to you, but just level illusion until you can easily cast invisibly and muffle, sneak to well sneak around, and pickpocket so you can have the perk that let's you take anything and done. You can also do potion making and reverse pickpocket deadly poisons on people and it should kill them. Enjoy Breton works best imo

@@NotTheHeroStudios Ooooo thank you for the tips! I'm writing this down so the next time i get a skyrim kick, i'm doing this!

@@maelavdrak it's a really fun build and you can easily turn it into a puppet master build once you're done messing around. You can also use the alternative start mod to prevent dragon spawns until you're ready as that build can't do... Well anything to dragons.

It’s a great game! He makes it even better

He's the reason I got Fallout 4 too!

Isn't helgi that little girl from Morthal?

@@ccartdoodlez4572 you know there are more jacks or helgi,s or insert names

@@ccartdoodlez4572 Yes and there is an old lady magic user that runs the hall of the dead in windhelm, her name is Helgird, could be helgi for short, could be an old friend.

True always wait for a new nate skyrim video

Go to sleep. And maybe eat some ramen noodles.

CCArt Doodlez hahaha I eat ramens all the time 😂 it’s fuckin good (I do have money, I just like em ramens)

@@viatueur73 ramen is literally the best thing ever im gonna go make chicken ramen right now

CCArt Doodlez I just ate some kimchi ramen extra spicy 😂

@@viatueur73 just finished cooking. This is gonna be good. Hope you enjoyed your ramen!

I just get back on this page trying my luck that Nate came back but still no hopes. I hope he is alright in real life. I really missed his explanation on this game

Camel made a video on this topic already

You can sort of back them in the Cidna mine quest.

evil character?

@@eyesack6845 no, I just didn't know at first that they were bandits. I drank with Sam Guevenne and that was the first time I entered Markarth, and I can't remeber why I ended up in prison. Anyway I met Madanach and believed his whole spiel. So when I escaped I went to the nearest forsworn camp, honestly thinking I'd joined. 😅

@@fredthurbin5795 well you said that you would join. and you know they're evil now.

@@eyesack6845 true... Wow maybe I was evil. I did do every Daderic quest