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Tutorial- J. P. Johnson- Over the Bars- ABRSM Grade 8 2023-2024 

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My performance is here: • ABRSM Grade 8 2023-202...
Here's the link for J. P. Johnson's original performance:
• James P. Johnson (1894...
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@Somebody10123
@Somebody10123 9 месяцев назад
Very useful!I am 10 and i am playing grade 8 and this song certainly got my interest!😊
@pborgia1
@pborgia1 Год назад
Stephanie Trick has a great version of this song on RU-vid. Fast and accurate too! Alot of people think that she might be the best stride player around at this time.
@HeartofthePiano
@HeartofthePiano Год назад
Her own unique take on this (not the arrangement in the grade 8 book) is phenomenal, my jaw was on the floor when I watched it 😮
@pborgia1
@pborgia1 Год назад
@@HeartofthePiano I'm glad that you got to see her version. She is amazing. My wife and I have seen her live on three occasions and she is always impressive. She is a lovely person in addition. It's a shame that such talented individuals are not better known. Rossano Sportiello is also a skilled stride player and even more versatile than Stephanie. He is also on RU-vid.
@sabertavis233
@sabertavis233 Год назад
This tutorial is great, I'm a teacher and I currently have a student learning this piece, I like your interpretation of the 10ths. Great video.
@scivalesmusicbooks1977
@scivalesmusicbooks1977 11 месяцев назад
Many congratulations on this beautiful and very useful tutorial!
@josiah566
@josiah566 2 года назад
Great tutorial! A few notes based on my own study of the early jazz era: - James P. Johnson, Fats Waller, and all the major New York stride pianists would have been playing these tunes at house parties where there wasn't too much room to have a drum set or a bass player. The foundation of the stride left hand is to simulate the the 3 parts of the jazz rhythm section - the march/ragtime "oom-pah" in the drums, the ringing bass note from the contrabass, and the syncopated harmonic accompaniment from a guitar or a horn section. Thus (and your hand stretch tip is key here) it is key to think of your left hand as playing 3 parts - the 1 and 3 bass note is an upright bass, the responding chord is the snare drum/horn section. *The bass note should ring as long as possible before a casual harmonic stab in the responding chord.* You'll notice in James P's recording that his bass notes are slightly clearer than his response chords. - The 8th note phrases in the right hand should be interpreted in a triplet swing structure, and thought of as a singing voice a la Louis Armstrong. *It may be wise to have students try to sing the melody as they would any other song* - it would help them figure out which notes in a phrase to play staccato or legato to give each phrase their character. You'll also notice in the B section of the piece (syncopated 3rd figures) that Johnson might stress one 3rd in each phrase and almost "ghost" the other to increase the feeling of syncopation against the march left hand. Whilst the piece overall should be interpreted as an energetic stomp, the dynamics exist in the little phrases - in each 2-3 sub-grouping of a right hand figure, which do you stress and which do you ghost? It is based on what feels most singable against the rhythmic left hand. - This is a tip not based on this tutorial but based on other attempts across RU-vid that people are trying to approach this like a Chopin or Liszt folk dance piece - *the Romantic drag between long phrases has no place here.* Stride piano, as an offshoot of early jazz, is primarily a dance music - it was a way for poor and marginalised black communities in the early 20th century to pay the rent, and to dance their troubles away. Pulse is everything - any syncopation or rubato should be treated as seasoning - added in small doses and ONLY to complement and serve the grander pulse outlined in the left hand.
@HeartofthePiano
@HeartofthePiano 2 года назад
Thanks for your in-depth and insightful comments! I would have to disagree about swung triplets though- this just isn't how he plays it in the recording this was transcribed from (link in the comments). Also, it's worth noting that in the recording, he is actually being accompanied by a drummer, and it's useful to hear this in the back of our mind as we play. Which means, yes, I agree, be very sparing and careful with rubato!!
@josiah566
@josiah566 2 года назад
@@HeartofthePiano Thanks for your response! I do agree that in the recording, Johnson never sticks to a triplet feel outright, but he is conscious about the triplet feel and slips in and out of it ever so subtly - so I think he's "feeling" it in triplet and is trying to keep the playing human by varying it ever so often - I wonder if this is something teachable/practical for proctoring a piece like this? I know as an ABRSM student, if I came across this piece earlier in my life I would have heavily struggled with such a concept. As to the drummer - I wonder if the left hand must then be adjusted to take up some of the sonic space left when the drummer isn't present? The drummer (though quite quickly) plays brushstrokes alternating between longer and staccato notes - is this something that should then be reflected in the march left hand? I guess all this then comes to the question - how sacred is the recording vs conventional practices of interpretation (including what's practical to teach students at the ABRSM exam level - I don't have a clear ideas as my exams stopped at the 6th grade a long long time ago)? We know that other, older European pieces lack original era-specific recordings by the composers, so we've been left to our own devices for the last 200-300 years, but Johnson's own interpretation is recorded here - how should this change the way students approach interpretation of this piece? Edit/PostScript - I also realize my interpretation of Johnson's playing comes from listening to his many other recordings (check out his sans drummer of Jingles or You've Got To Be Modernistic) and from this tutorial of the gypsy/jazz manouche guitar technique "la pompe" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sl56Mm_6EZg.html which was derived by Django Reinhardt as inspired by New York jazz musicians in the early 1920s (which would have included Duke Ellington and James P. Johnson). In the link, the guitar player explains that conventional comping requires a proper chord on 1 and 3 with rhythmic stabs in 2 and 4, which departs from the at-first intuitive approach of stressing the2 and 4. It took me a while to understand this, but the stabs place an "accent" on 2 and 4 whilst rung chords/bass notes create "stress" on 1 and 3 (similar to lilting drop-roll right hand figures) - thus if one starts bobbing their head to the music, one finds a down up, push-pull feel to the music created by this contrast. It's subtle, but so powerful in terms of creating a pulse! WHICH again begs my question on that philosophical level - how far down the rabbit hole must students go?
@henrycarter2235
@henrycarter2235 2 года назад
I’d love to see a tutorial on the grade 8 C piece Danny Boy by Nikki Iles. Curious to see how this compares in difficulty to Over the Bars!
@HeartofthePiano
@HeartofthePiano 2 года назад
I'm going to post a video soon on the list C Zoe Rahman piece from the Nikki Iles & Friends book- it is *much* easier than Over The Bars!!
@adam4757
@adam4757 Год назад
Can't believe Over the Bars and Danny Boy are in the same grade. I can pretty much sight-read the Danny Boy. I can't even play a phrase of Over the Bars with practicing! Very inconsistent.
@HeartofthePiano
@HeartofthePiano 11 месяцев назад
I almost put up a tutorial on Danny Boy a while ago- I actually substantially changed Nikki Iles' arrangement to improve it as there were quite a lot of moments that bothered me 😂
@louiswalmer
@louiswalmer 2 года назад
Thank you so much for kindly offering us this tutorial on over the bars. I love stride piano. I have been sitting on grade 8 for the past few years because I didn't like many of the pieces and had more fun playing duets. The new book has a good range of pieces and additional options this year. I am definitely going to play this one, albeit its quite difficult. Thanks again :)
@makSyak
@makSyak Год назад
Thank you :)
@SoundScore7724
@SoundScore7724 Год назад
It turns out I was wrong about everything!😭
@HeartofthePiano
@HeartofthePiano Год назад
Wrong? Unless you're doing doing something wildly terrible 😂 I wouldn't jump to conclusions you're 'wrong', these are just my personal opinions!
@suryahitam3588
@suryahitam3588 2 года назад
A very interesting tutorial, thanks. I was intrigued by your comment on the transcription error in the chromatic descent in bars 65-68. I wonder why ABRSM didn't correct it in their edition. Normally the examiner does not want to hear the repeats in a piece, but would you play the ones marked 49a/b and 75a/b in the exam, as they are quite long?
@wangjohnson4531
@wangjohnson4531 Год назад
I hope it’s sorted now but if not: Short answer: no
@levimungai1846
@levimungai1846 Год назад
How do the repeats work…what should you play and what should you leave out
@HeartofthePiano
@HeartofthePiano Год назад
The ABRSM FAQ says no repeats: gb.abrsm.org/en/our-exams/syllabus-faq/
@philiprobinson7332
@philiprobinson7332 Год назад
So helpful! Thank you. Just wondering whether you’ve done one on the Chopin Mazurka Op 17 No 4? Philip
@HeartofthePiano
@HeartofthePiano Год назад
Many thanks, I haven't done one on the Chopin Mazurka yet- I see there are already some tutorials on RU-vid, what would you find useful in particular to help with this piece? 🙂
@philiprobinson7332
@philiprobinson7332 Год назад
Many thanks. Good question. Will think more and will look up other videos. Philip
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