@@ellacaskey6525 Yeah, kinda... ^^' I 've been actively addicted to TØP's music for four years now, but all the lore and actual community stuff has only been in my life for a few months now xD
I knew there was some sort of lore, but just couldn't put all of the puzzle pieces together! I've been listening for hm, six years I think! My grandson and I share similar tastes in music. This just gives us so much more!!
also I was thinking that the cover for st could represent the whole story pouring out of Tyler's head, with the album itself being like an epilogue to it all, "this is me, and this is my story"
I've been a fan of 21pilots since 2015, and never had any knowledge prior to what's going with the lore 'till now. And with this self-explanatory video, you have clearly enlighten me. Such a concise expalanation. Thank you!
Its been my favorite band since 2018, like this spotify wrapped I was in the 0.05 listener percentage, but I didn't know anything about lore until their teaser thing before overcompensate, but it's insane Clancy drops on my birthday, it feels so perfect since the band means so much to me, I'm so hoped for it, best birthday gift
@@groovyghostnotessuch an incredible description of severe depression, but showing it as an "external" manifestation 😮. Well thought out explanation! This old lady has been trying to piece together the lore, now, you've done it for me!! Something I can share with my grandson who is ALSO a fan!!
I don't see a lot of people talk about this, but Tyler did a Discord interview with the clique where he explained violism and it's basically the end goal of trying to take your own life
i've been a fan for like 2 years and kinda understood the lore before but with all that's happening here your short and clear explanation still helps lol
this is so good! everything is explained nicely, really the introduction to TOP lore. I wish I could take a course on this, with every single easter egg and connection. And fan theories. And then one on everything else TOP related. Because I know a lot but I also know I don't know or remember everything. Loved watching this!!
any other twenty one pilots related videos you’d like to see? any theories you want me to discuss? songs and music videos to pick apart?? let me know! i love talking about these boys from ohio.
I'm not sure how much actual discussion there is able to be had about it at this point but I think the theory of the original clancy being dead and tyler then taking on his name is an interesting one i've seen floating around
@@groovyghostnotes I definitely used to be but I kinda like the idea of them being separate people as it gives an extra perspective on stuff and I think the bishops pushing that Clancy is dead is a lot more powerful when the person Clancy IS dead but the idea their name represents isn’t
@@FX7yt i didn’t believe it up until the ned letter in the ned’s cozy fireplace. it basically confirmed a ned saw josh with clancy. it also mentioned that keons told the ned’s this would happen. the only time a Ned would’ve seen josh with anybody would be the outside music video. at the beginning of the video, it shows keons being killed, and trash the dragon being killed in the process. if he was possessing trash, it’s possible he crashed the submarine on purpose, sending josh and tyler to the Ned island like he promised.
@@groovyghostnoteswhat about the theory that clancy IS dead and tylers taken over the role of clancy? The main reason i think this is a possible thing is because clancy talks about seeing tyler and nico in one of his letters in the jumpsuit music video so it really wouldnt add up if tyler was clancy all along and the bishops view tyler and clancy as 2 seperate people (i assume) because they were with tyler in the movie, they called him tyler of twenty one pilots, ever since that ned letter this has gotten me all kinds of confused and curious 😂
This was actually such a great video. So easy to follow, and the joke we’re top tier. Your commentary style as a whole is just superb. Thank you so much for sharing! I’ve been following the lore since they came out with blurryface (been listening since early 2014) when Tyler explained in an interview that it was just a name he gave his insecurities to give them a seat at the table in order to deal with them. I’ve heard some theories about the new album and I’m so excited for it! I hope you make an updated lore video as well when the album comes out!! I’ll be here to watch it💚
Lore, lore, lore, and even more LORE. THANK YOU THIS IS LIFE CHANGING INFORMATION Edit: also I think outside was written for kids bop “kid are tryna take my vibes”
i totally loveeeee this video, omg I'm a fan since 2015 with blurryface and I really enjoyed being envolved in every discover about the lore, it kinda make me sad that (it's suposse) that the next album is going to be the final one nooo
knowing tyler’s mind, i doubt hes going to stop adding storylines to his albums. i assume after the next album is the start of a new story. but thats just my guess.
NIce summary! Nicholas Bourbaki is also a reference to a specific group of mathematical geniuses (apologies if someone else has already commented on that!).
Ive always thought Clancy is Tyler, i think he represents Tyler's non blurryface side. Just as Nico is a representation of Tyler's depression. Clancy is a representation of his clarity And scaled and icy being "clancy is dead" is because blurryface is in full control
tysm for this video. ive recently gotten a couple friends into tøp and the lore and im such a terrible explainer this video has helped sm. i hope you make another vid after clancy bc it will help all of us out here that have a hard time interpreting 🩷🩷 |-/
I listened Twenty One Pilots like in 2018-2020 and I've just now realized this whole ass lore behind it??? I'm so excited and confused and happy cause my inner clique is coming back!!
A little bit tangent also.. in redecorate, a song that is pretty dark, the lyrics say “I repeat, scaled back and isolated,” which I feel is a play on the album name, as well as the feeling of being in Dema
I just noticed something and I might be stretching a little but the colors for Scaled and Icy are Pink Yellow and Blue (ayy pansexuals rise up lol) and that to me could be the three colors of their previous albums: vessel = blue, trench = yellow, blurryface = red but got toned down to pink because they’re winning?? Idk let me know what y’all think.
i like it! another really cool theory is about the bishops being color blind. tritanopia is what the bishops are believed to have, since the banditos wear yellow as camouflage. tritanopia also makes green and yellow… look blue and pink. so some think scaled and icy is an attempt by the bishops to look like bandito colors, but they got it wrong bc they’re color blind.
Please go way into it, I was a hardcore fan from 2011-2017ish so I only caught RAB, Vessel and Blurryface but I've defrosted the phase and I am SO behind on the lore
I think Clancy MIGHT be a metaphor! The original Clancy may be dead, but Tyler has picked up the mantle and is carrying on his good works, with the help of NED! Obviously Dema is the place where depression resides. Clancy, The Banditos and NED are the way "out"!!
One thing I disagree with is that trench is where you want to be I think bandits is saying trench is the place in between the bad place and the good place but not the good place itself It’s in between it’s the journey not the destination
Honestly my only beef with Scaled and Icy has to do with that era being tainted by the "tyler is a racist" scandal that happened around that time but the promo pics and art work for that era was SO good
this seems honestly really stupid to comment. but thank you for making this video, my groomer was very into twenty one pilots and i realized i got groomed in 2020 when this album came out. so i associated scaled and icy with them. now with this new era i feel like i’ve finally healed and can love what i loved before again. yeah but anyways thank you.
in redecorate he literally said scaled and icy means "scaled back and isolated". i mean it could be a double meaning but he said it out right. after marrying and having a kid with jenna he has overcome his depression so thats another thing giving credit to it but i dont know im super into the lore but its questionable.
it’s also been confirmed it’s an anagram. it has multiple meanings, which is classic twenty one pilots. there’s always a meaning that casual fans can catch onto. this is the one that reflects tyler’s actual life. then there’s what it means in terms of the lore and storyline tyler is creating.
All this kinda reminds me of paramore and their albums , when they were younger they kinda wrote sad songs and depressing songs . It was kinda dark like with twenty one pilots . Then when they got older in 2017 they wrote some happy songs and it was bright , colorful but behind that bright colorful world was still some dark sadness. Listen to the lyrics in their songs and TØP’s songs the outside may be all fine but in the inside your fucked. Now with paramore and this is why the colors are more mid , they aren’t as bright as they were with after laughter . Again I think the same is happening with TØP, we may be getting some monotone colors with the next one.
Okay yall, I've always been a casual listener of theirs but I've decided to begin the deep dive today after listening to Overcompensate for the first time. Tell me what else I should watch to get the picture!!
