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Twilight 2000 4e RPG & The History of Wargaming RPGs 

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GDW, Twilight 2000, and wargaming in the 1980s.
A mixture of documentary, examination of a fictional world, and more.
Main sources include:
Designers & Dragons
Friga Ligan website
This is a video about the role-playing game (RPG) Twilight 2000. It's also a historical piece that explores the context of the 1980s and wargaming history. And it's also a video that explores the history of the company GDW or Game Designers Workshop.
There's a lot 90s and 80s militaria in here. Some people will find that interesting. other people maybe have real hobbies.
Want more weird shit?
/ warlore
0:00 Twilight 2000
0:54 Part 1 - GDW
4:10 Part 3 - The Cold War
5:56 Part 4 - End of the Game Designer's Workshop
8:58 Part 5 - A World Lit Only by Twilight - 1991
9:47 1992
10:11 1993
10:29 1994
10:54 1995
11:12 1996
12:00 1997
14:49 1998
20:47 1999
21:50 2000

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28 июн 2024

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Комментарии : 64   
@bradandrews777
@bradandrews777 Год назад
I helped playtest this in college ages ago. I went to school close to GDW. (University of Illinois - Champaign/Urbana) I remember taking out a tank with an RPG. I didn't realize how rare that outcome was. Fun at the time.
@FishLord413
@FishLord413 9 месяцев назад
That's the best Twilight 2000 lore vid I have seen and I've seen a few
@WarLore
@WarLore 9 месяцев назад
Thanks kindly. I think it’s useful for GMs who want to explain it to players
@FishLord413
@FishLord413 9 месяцев назад
I like the way it was put together
@Drumfreak127
@Drumfreak127 2 года назад
I love this video! Like real-life table top lore
@WarLore
@WarLore 2 года назад
Thanks man. I know this one won’t be as popular. So I really appreciate your comment.
@JIG86
@JIG86 Год назад
@@WarLore This is an awesome piece of work, man. Absolutely fantastic job.
@runesoldierdan5614
@runesoldierdan5614 2 года назад
That was neat! I love hearing about obscure games like this I vaguely remember from the BASH catalogue. Would love to see you tackle other dead games, like Dark Conspiracy or Traveler itself. As for the timing... well, they did predict a lot of things uncomfortably well, didn't they? But I think it's more impactful because we're in a place where we've seen this happen.
@WarLore
@WarLore 2 года назад
The seed of this video absolutely dares to seeing piles of old T2K books stuffed in old metal cabinets. You’re totally spot on.
@gealhart1069
@gealhart1069 2 года назад
"we didn't start the fire" by billy joel plays in my head starting at 9:45
@scottperkins5038
@scottperkins5038 Год назад
Been tempted to run this as a Metro inspired game especially as running it vanilla feels a bit grim right now.
@WarLore
@WarLore Год назад
that would be a blast!
@theangrysocialist6884
@theangrysocialist6884 3 месяца назад
imma do that
@scottperkins5038
@scottperkins5038 3 месяца назад
Just a question of how to add the weird monsters and anomalies.
@theangrysocialist6884
@theangrysocialist6884 3 месяца назад
@@scottperkins5038 I think I'll start with another skill Wich will be basicly how resistant you are to the effects of anomalys/dark ones similar to how artyom is. it would allso make for a good plot hook for the party.
@totallynotjosh945
@totallynotjosh945 Месяц назад
Try looking into Dark Conspiracy for further inspiration
@esoopthederp7672
@esoopthederp7672 Год назад
I’d love to hear more about the oddities of the last edition
@OldSkooolGamer
@OldSkooolGamer 16 дней назад
Excellent review, and even better lore video. Well done!
@sebbychou
@sebbychou 2 года назад
TW2000 was my other brother's favorite.
@codedecode878
@codedecode878 11 месяцев назад
this was super entertaining, thanks! i have a bunch of the old stuff from T2K, Traveller, and MegaTraveller, loved those games.
@WarLore
@WarLore 9 месяцев назад
They were extremely im influential and it’s no surprise
@MrAjmay1
@MrAjmay1 Месяц назад
Played so much T2000 in 6/7th grade. Great memories
@astro7473
@astro7473 2 месяца назад
Great video! Helps me (and hopefully my players) get familiar with the game setting. Well done!
@davidcashin1894
@davidcashin1894 2 года назад
Traveller was published immediately after and influenced by Star Wars, look at the Psionics rules. I bought the first edition in 77 when it came out. ;-)
@mikk01975
@mikk01975 3 месяца назад
I remember playing the original as an 80's kid and the game always started with "you're in the middle of Poland" 😅 I'm not sure if I would like to pick this up at 2024 as it hits a little bit too close to home 😞
@WarLore
@WarLore 3 месяца назад
It’s a very cool game. Really cool setting, but uh… feels a bit too realistic in some ways!
@chinglee
@chinglee Год назад
Love the alternate history lesson. Also, for all the info that I had no idea of. Great video.
@WarLore
@WarLore Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@hellacoorinna9995
@hellacoorinna9995 3 месяца назад
I'd like you to explore the original setting.
@pfcparts7728
@pfcparts7728 3 месяца назад
17:02 *both sides panic as the unthinkable happens*
@WarLore
@WarLore 3 месяца назад
surprised pikachu face for nuclear war
@ken418
@ken418 Год назад
Please explore the Twilight 2000 setting!
@WarLore
@WarLore Год назад
Hmm, only problem is that I still don't have the Stockholm book!
@ethanmcfarland8240
@ethanmcfarland8240 4 месяца назад
I love the lord and world building of this game
@ianmusgrove118
@ianmusgrove118 8 месяцев назад
This is a great watch - makes me want to play Twilight!
@johnwoodworth9127
@johnwoodworth9127 Год назад
Cool video, I especially love the part at 13:20 where you talk about a violent debate and the girl sorta half heartedly slaps the table. :D I played Twilight 2,000 back in 86 when it was considered speculative fiction not alternative history. Which is kind of a weird thing to have happen . As far as a good time to release.. Well it was released before the whole thing in the Ukraine happened so it's not like they're trying to make a statement or anything. I also don't see why people would be uncomfortable due to current events. I mean if you're close to the fighting, but still have time to play a RPG I suppose it would strike close to home. But for those of us in the US or UK or something... That's a long ways away and hardly a big deal. I mean if someone is ok with playing a Vampire... then they should be able to separate reality from fiction for this.
@WarLore
@WarLore Год назад
This is such an interesting and insightful comment. Thank you so much man! I tried my best to make it a bit tongue-in-cheek while still interesting. It's a weird game. Thanks so much for watching : )
@reports8391
@reports8391 Год назад
Sure, explore that setting. I'd watch it.
@breadloaf2829
@breadloaf2829 9 месяцев назад
i honestly thought we were exploring the 80s version.
@WarLore
@WarLore 9 месяцев назад
Maybe I’ll do one on that someday
@_Diggler
@_Diggler Год назад
And here we are in 2023 playing out this game in real time…
@WarLore
@WarLore Год назад
Sad but it really feelsl ike it.
@tripppleDaddy
@tripppleDaddy Год назад
No mention of T2K, 2nd Edition?
@jackshelton8731
@jackshelton8731 Год назад
Please explore the setting
@WarLore
@WarLore Год назад
Guess I’ll have to
@swaghauler8334
@swaghauler8334 Год назад
I honestly believe that GDW would have done better if they had pushed DARK CONSPIRACY as the newer game (over TW2K V2.2) and changed it to be a darker action-adventure game like PULP CoC based on something like the X-Files, instead of positioning it as a comic book based or 50s serial-movie-type format like the old Rocket Man or Flash Gordon. DARK CONSPIRACY could have been the inspiration for games that resembled movies like TROLL HUNTER, THE LAST WITCH HUNTER, and CONSTANTINE.
@WarLore
@WarLore Год назад
I would love some more Dark Conspiracy, they had a really wide portfolio. Maybe too wide.
@_DanielFernandez_
@_DanielFernandez_ 7 месяцев назад
Explore the original setting
@irishtank42
@irishtank42 Год назад
Interesting concept, but of course my brain won't shut up. The problem is with collapse of the Warsaw Pact most of the man power of the Soviet Union is gone. Russia's total population was 147 million in 1991. A time time scale compression could fix the issue as tactical nukes come out faster. Or China. But, then we are looking at Twilight 2020. I think a little more war gaming is in order and some history is needed.. What would a post Desert Storm with the Cold War still ongoing look like as the USSR is still around and angry? Germany would have one of the largest military in Europe post reunification. The United States, UK, and France would have a battle tested armies from Desert Storm. China suffers Tammian Square. All this could lead to the wanted scenario.
@WarLore
@WarLore Год назад
hey, I didn't write it! :P but that is an interesting alternative, and I think that would be a good book to have released in the 90s or early 2000s
@rikkilleen3169
@rikkilleen3169 Год назад
Manpower is one thing, feeding and equipping those men is something else entirely. Strategic industries would be devastated. Everything from resource harvesting and refining, industry, communications, transportation, logistics coordination, etc., etc., etc. And those who would still be able to produce would have little motivation to sacrifice their own physical and food security on behalf of governments that brought down the ruin and lack the resources to enforce their will.
@tombouie
@tombouie Месяц назад
Thks & request an update. Table-Top Universal RPG Buyer's Quickstart ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LWwPN-NFYT4.html
@patrickbarnes9874
@patrickbarnes9874 Год назад
So where was the review? Video went through the history all the way up to 2000 and then ended. Never got to the game at all.
@d4dave669
@d4dave669 2 года назад
Yup. Shouldn't have watched this before bed.
@WarLore
@WarLore 2 года назад
Real talk. Is now a good time to release Twilight 2000? A bad time? Give me a comment, let me hear what you think about this RPG. Is it repellant to you?
@kadeshaderow
@kadeshaderow 2 года назад
That's a dumb question since Twilight 2000 was released last year.
@reallivebluescat
@reallivebluescat 2 года назад
Yeah it's been out for a while. It's not free leagues fault
@Carfilliot
@Carfilliot Год назад
Fictionalised RPG game set in the year 2000 has nothing to do with what’s happening in 2022, if anyone is offended or finds it repellant then they really need to toughen up and stop being a snowflake.
@brothwood4108
@brothwood4108 2 года назад
Bloody hell, watching this with the war in Ukraine is a scary thing....Can your next video be something nice like My Little Pony
@rory7590
@rory7590 10 месяцев назад
You keep saying in this video that war-games had become commercially unviable in the late 80s/early 90s. I guess Warhammer 40,000 passed you by......
@WarLore
@WarLore 9 месяцев назад
???? That's a very different thing. I'm talking about classic hex-and-chit wargames, board wargames. The sort of thing that long predates miniature wargames like Warhammer, Infinity, or Mantic's offerings. Advanced Squad Leader was on its way out. There's a reason that '"Strategy and tactics" magazine isn't in every board game store. The decline is in part due to the rise of video games and other hobbies, like the growing world of hobby board games, that served as competition. Miniature wargames are a very different entity.
@kelseysvenson8544
@kelseysvenson8544 7 месяцев назад
Bro, I know you're an American and it's not your strong suit, but you have mispronounced horribly EVERY SINGLE non-english word. Doesn't take much effort to check their pronounciation...
@WarLore
@WarLore 7 месяцев назад
I didn't do a very good job. This is something I have endeavored to fix with other videos.
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