Twilight 2000 4th edition - Combat example - Alpha ruleset 

Definitely, I have a copy and most of the original print modules.

Thanks, it's not a perfect run through but glad it helps.

Interestingly foreshadowing what the US did in the field years later... I think v2.0 came out after I had left for university (I certainly remember running v1.0 there with a campaign set in Cornwall). I definitely have good memories of the games we ran there, no just T2K but Runequest, Call of Cthulhu and many others.

@@jameslangham9854 Yes. I also remember Runequest, Call of Cthulhu 3e as well as Star Frontiers. I also remember Paranoia and Ghost Busters.

Maybe a mechanism that gives the heroes a number of hero points that force the opposition to reroll a success.

Thank you

@@jameslangham9854 Yes looking forward to vehicle use and combat.

Glad you found it useful

Never to late to join in. Thanks for the kind words. The system models quite realistic behaviour in combat, high skill can limit the number of rounds fired and instead rely on their bullet placement while less skilled characters spray and pray by putting large amounts of lead into the area and hoping some of it at least goes near and suppresses the target. In combat most weapon fire is to surprise not hit the target. This shows really well in the opening exchanges of fire. Another good example is in the film Black Hawk Down where there is a marked contrast between how the US and Somalis fire. A hit can be multiple rounds hence the increased effect with more hits. In the same hex you can rely on skill or again pour lots of shots in. Oddly as a reasonable shot I found that automatic fire was far less effective at range instead using double or triple taps (represented by one or two ammo dice) but at close range it became much more effective as recoil and dispersion didn't move the point of aim enough to take it off target. Hope that helps.

Thank you

They are 15mm figures sold by Peter Pig (the hero is Sgt Raine, a free figure you can add to any order) and Irregular (the Russians). If you check my Cold War Goes Hot playlist you will find quite a few reviews of various manufacturers that are ideal (including CP Models, Old Glory, Battlefront, QRF and PSC). Hope that helps.

Thanks, it was my first run through for the camera and I expected to make mistakes.

The rule book says keep the dice balanced which means downstepping higher base dice and step up lower. Personally I think players should have the choice.

Jonathan Baldridge, You have the downstep exactly backwards as per p.45 of the phb, you go for balance, it is said explicitly. ie step down the higher, step up the lower. very plainly written. When correcting rules online, please reference your corrections first to avoid this in the future. tyvm

@@mrcat5179 The pre-release rules had the system the other way around. In release rules you step up the lower first and step down the higher first, yes.

So it wasn't me losing my mind...

Glad you like it

Not played that unfortunately

The more I look at this the more confused I get. I think I had misread the next part that talks about a minimum of one dice (but missed the can you refer to). However given that crossbows have a RoF of 1 it implies you can roll an ammo dice for single shot weapons. Will feedback to Free League.

@@jameslangham9854 I agree it needs some clarification to make it simpler.

In the new rules you can use ammo dice up to your ROF. If you single shot then you just use your base dice and that counts as a single bullet.

The critical rules make head shots pn PCs pretty lethal, it's this that maximises the kill potential. In most cases with NPCs in large battles hits cause supression and any critical is immediately incapacitating. I went a bit further here to show a bit more of the rules.

I ALWAYS roll badly

It includes a short section on solo play designed around traveling.

This was using the alpha rules, there are a few changes on the final version.

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@@jameslangham9854 cant use it, it wont accept my card for free trial and i dont have otheroption of buying it, tnx for trying to help

The random number of rounds fired works quite well in my eyes for untrained and semi trained fighters. To me the recoil is built into RoF.

old comment but still, the idea behind the ammo dice I think is quiet simple, while in a lot of video games and media its shown that soldiers take precise and relatively clean shots and guns are 100% accurate, real combat is nothing like that its often frantic and chaotic as in general soldiers can expend several hundred rounds just to kill 1 enemy usually as a result of suppressive fire if their not using highly specialized precision weapons.

How I see it too. Worth noting few characters will be well trained by 2000 and would use pre-war fire discipline. Watching footage from modern wars reinforces this.

@@jameslangham9854 I did get the rule books after my comment. I think coolness under fire or your weapon skill should influence on how much ammo you use. I just don't think it fits the theme of conserving resources. In something like Cyberpunk spraying and praying would fit much better.

I like the concept of coolness under fire influencing it. Not sure on a simple mechanism though.

I've not played that and it would involve conversion of the characters to that system.

Kursk is a wargame with some RPG elements, so it is aimed at engagements with several troopers per side and everyone uses the same rules. T2K4 is a RPG with some wargaming elements. Yeah, it has maps/counters and/or miniatures/board, but the detailed rules are for PCs and there are cut down rules for NPCs. Kursk wouldn't use the game's stats and you're fishing for 1s/6s on Kill/Shock dice is a bit too stripped down for a RPG. But who knows, with the right GM it could be pretty fun.

It's interesting that people have complained they are both too detailed and too simplistic. Everyone has their ideal level, hopefully this video helps people decide if it's for them.