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Twilight of the Twin Kingdoms - A Short History of Denmark-Norway 

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00:00 Introduction
02:30 I. King and Country
05:44 II. Economic Growth
08:02 III. A Military State
10:33 IV. The Enemy Within
13:37 V. Collapse
16:50 VI. Legacy
19:03 Epilogue
Once the crowns of Denmark and Norway had come together in the Kalmar union, they were locked in a partnership for over 400 years. After Sweden's exit (1523), eventually these two kingdoms grew inseparable.
From a Norwegian point of view, I explore that so-called '400 year night' , an interval in Norwegian history that is often ignored or disregarded as irrelevant in our view of history, whilst its towns, institutions, industries and foundations are still found amongst us.
Sources and links:
Many thanks to the reenactors in the film, they are found at: www.geworbne.no
1814 Eidsvoll museum: eidsvoll1814.no/eidsvollbygni...
Borgarsyssel museum Østfold: ostfoldmuseene.no/borgarsyssel
Røros museum: rorosmuseet.no/
Bærums Verk: www.baerumsverk.no/
Akershus fortress: www.forsvarsbygg.no/no/festni...
#denmarknorway #norway #denmark #history #nordic #17thcentury #18thcentury #kings #oldenburg #røros #akershus #eidsvoll #1814

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@NorthernHistory
@NorthernHistory 2 года назад
A film, half a pandemic year in the making, finally done! Phew! Hit subscribe and notification bell for updates 🔔
@micahistory
@micahistory 2 года назад
wow congrats. I wish you had been in the chat though
@NorthernHistory
@NorthernHistory 2 года назад
@@micahistory RL intervened. Next time!
@micahistory
@micahistory 2 года назад
@@NorthernHistory ok would you like to be friends?
@landersen8173
@landersen8173 2 года назад
Fantastic video! Being a dane it´s great to hear and see the history from a norwegian point of view. Tordenskiold is pretty much celebrated as a danish hero even though we know he´s norwegian.
@NorthernHistory
@NorthernHistory 2 года назад
Tordenskiold was and is still held up as a patriotic figure in Norway. To many, he's the only iconic figure of the 18th century. Every country views historical persons differently, through their own lens!
@GangeHrolfr
@GangeHrolfr 8 месяцев назад
You're also welcome for Holberg ;D
@landersen8173
@landersen8173 8 месяцев назад
@@GangeHrolfr Thanks ☺and we´ve practically stolen Henrik Ibsen too.
@GangeHrolfr
@GangeHrolfr 8 месяцев назад
@@landersen8173 So has the rest of the world, it's all good my friend :D
@hansmarheim7620
@hansmarheim7620 6 месяцев назад
​​@@GangeHrolfrYeah. And Krøjer, and Haakon the VI.
@citizenVader
@citizenVader 9 месяцев назад
My ancestors were hired by the king and moved from the Netherlands (Gelderland) to Copenhagen along with 3 other families of builders to help defend the Danish against the Swedish kingdom. They specialised in building star fortresses and after finishing the older part of the first permanent ramparts/citadel (Kastellet) gained nobility and knighthood and were awarded a lectureship award in complicated architecture at the King's University. We are still in Denmark, around 600 members of the former Wan der Borchs and the Bartholin branch of the family's.
@caythorgrimson
@caythorgrimson 17 дней назад
my name is cay jens joost thorgrimson what history is in the name of warrior sons im dane
@citizenVader
@citizenVader 17 дней назад
@@caythorgrimson ja jeg har så også fået et par flere navne på frakken end bare det fra Holland. Blev sgu nødt til at skære i det for at få plads til en simpel underskrift. Men det er lovligt at bruge patrinomer igen, så man kan tage faderen eller moderens fornavn til efternavn med henholdsvis søn og datter som slutled.
@caythorgrimson
@caythorgrimson 17 дней назад
@@citizenVader lol bro a true ilu
@caythorgrimson
@caythorgrimson 17 дней назад
@@citizenVader din måde ay sige du er f dane
@caythorgrimson
@caythorgrimson 17 дней назад
@@citizenVader lad mig gæt amar??
@jasip1000
@jasip1000 15 дней назад
- Are you going to watch the handball match on tv tonight? -I don’t know who’s playing? -Denmark Norway. -Who are they playing against?
@NorthernHistory
@NorthernHistory 14 дней назад
the dream team ;)
@vrenak
@vrenak Год назад
A small mistake, the 1814 treaty of Kiel, ceding Norway to Sweden was absolutely not signed voluntarily, it was an absolute demand from the victors of the napoleonic wars. They ha promised Sweden they could get Norway if the Swedes would join them, so that's who you need to blame for it.
@NATIK001
@NATIK001 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, the Danish king did everything he could to get out of it, including sending his own son to Norway to set the Swedish takeover up for failure and provide a way for Norway to return to the Danish royal line via succession.
@tbo2307
@tbo2307 2 месяца назад
Norway was ceded to Bernadotte, the king of Sweden, not Sweden. Thus the united kingdoms, not kingdom.
@ianbrowne8871
@ianbrowne8871 2 года назад
This provided stepping stones through several centuries and filled in several blank decades! A serious reflection on our shared values, well done.
@katjaisaksen1382
@katjaisaksen1382 2 года назад
Awesome work. Feels a bit like an extended trailer for a 10 episode series though! Would have loved more detail but can see how that would be a bit much. 😊
@NorthernHistory
@NorthernHistory 2 года назад
I will definetly make a more in-depth film on an interesting subject related to Denmark-Norway in the future.
@wadesaleeby2172
@wadesaleeby2172 Год назад
Search and ye shall find oh ye of little faith.
@MesiterSode
@MesiterSode 2 года назад
Finally, it's here! 🙌
@davidlandsnes326
@davidlandsnes326 Год назад
Fascinating topic, and equally fascinating and captivating channel. Your exhaustive research on Norwegian history is evident, and I look forward to much more on your channel. Thank you.
@eldelflowerwater
@eldelflowerwater Год назад
What a fantastic video- thank you! I am interested in Scandinavian history and visit Scandinavia often. Warm regards from Australia, Andy
@danskehans
@danskehans 8 месяцев назад
Bravo! Very informative and informative. Thank from an old Dane and I apologize for ruling your country for so many years.
@nolifergustav3741
@nolifergustav3741 5 месяцев назад
Should rather appologize for taking all of our colonies away from us in 1814
@filippoguidi9544
@filippoguidi9544 2 года назад
Thank you so much!
@nikolasbeckerandersen1383
@nikolasbeckerandersen1383 10 месяцев назад
Very good video. Dont know why i havent seen this before today.
@andreoliveira685
@andreoliveira685 Год назад
Nice video! Thanks!
@Incognito-co6og
@Incognito-co6og 2 года назад
Nice video!
@Jo-Heike
@Jo-Heike Год назад
I recently looked into the period of the union between Denmark-Norway, and I find a few of the statements you make to be wrong, or misleading, as well as leaning into a particular view of the time period that lacks a lot of nuance. The biggest one was about Denmark ceding Norway over as property, which is not true. Denmark was on the losing side of a war, where they fought on bitterly to keep Norway, because Sweden had joined the opposite side under they condition they would gain Norway when they won. And the only reason they'd join Napoleon was because the British attacked Copenhagen in an unprovoked attack. Denmark desired to be neutral and didn't want to take part in the war, but was forced into it. They'd also have switched sides a lot earlier if that didn't mean having to cede Norway, which as I mentioned was why they fought on so bitterly. Further you heavily lean into the romantic national ideas about the union, like the quotes you reference, referring to either a "long night", or a "false period" without putting them into context, or mentioned where those ideas originated from and comparing them to more modern, nuanced ideas about the time.
@NorthernHistory
@NorthernHistory Год назад
Hi Jens. You are of course entitled to your opinion. I merely state my views in this video, and there are hundreds of ways to interpret and analyse these 400 years of history. Norway as 'property' is of course polemic, as Norway was traditionally thought of as its own crown and territory - but no Norwegians were consulted on the matter. I mentioned the "false period" because that was a quote what came to taint the romantic view of the period and I tried to nuance that view. I don't try in this video try to dig too deeply in how to judge such a long period of time that is now so steeped in myth and nation-building, but tried to give a brief glimpse of what some thinkers thought of it in its aftermath. Thanks for watching!
@Jo-Heike
@Jo-Heike Год назад
@@NorthernHistory Is it worth pointing out that no Norwegians were consulted, when the Danes involved didn't have a choice? In either fighting in the war, or having to give up Norway after they lost?
@NorthernHistory
@NorthernHistory Год назад
@@Jo-Heike I felt it was worth pointing this out to a modern viewer, yes - in the context of seeing Denmark-Norway from a Norwegian point of view. Most people don't really know what an absolute monarchy was like or operated like in that day and age.
@Jo-Heike
@Jo-Heike Год назад
@@NorthernHistory Eneveldet.
@mortenalstrand3644
@mortenalstrand3644 Год назад
It is said that frederik 3 would rather give up skåne in 1658 to sweden, than norwegian land? Norway was not handed over so easy as it is told in the video in 1814. Norway was not a colony, but always regarded as a independant people. The norweigian sailors and soldiers where highly valued in the navy and in the army. Copenhagen was full of norweigian students and sailors and also many Germans. If denmark had contiued the fight for Norway, denmark would probably had been split up to the swedes and Britania. This idea did the swedish King (who was now a french former officer) propose to the britts. Denmark was even offered the most of the northen German baltic sea borders ,by the russians, if they gave norway to schweden and then joined up against napoleon. This was rejected period by the danish King.. so the King did everything he could to keep his beloved norway under the crown. It is important to be objektiv and not colored by nationalism when the history is told. Nationalism did not exist as we know it today. Norwegian policy was danish policy and vice versa at the time. Like it it not. That said, norway would had become indepent over time, because of the rise of nationalism. Which also happend in Holsten and schleswig. Denmark always mentioned norway as an independant People under the crown. Denmark was in danish history described as denmark-norway. Unlike scania, Halland , Blekinge, bonus len which where delibertly forced in to the swedish state to wash away there danisch ,and for bonus len, norwegian history, language and mentality The pursuit to kill norwegian tradition and habbits was never a political goal. However the writing was danish, which of course had a big impackt and did actually wipe out the original norwegian language. But the norwegian was still regarded as norwegians by the danes and the King, danish writting or not. That is the big difference.
@michaelprobert4014
@michaelprobert4014 2 года назад
You need more subscribers and deserve them too .
@petterwesterstrom690
@petterwesterstrom690 Год назад
Thank you for an insightful video about my neighboring countries. It is interesting to see both combined together. I come from Bohuslän and our local dialect contains many Norwegian words but has specific Danish pronunciation patterns thus gata in Swedish becomes gada en Bohuslänish. If you know any more insightful videos about Norway, please tell me. Takk!
@8ktavian
@8ktavian 2 года назад
Sykt bra film, ekstremt spennende saker.
@wadesaleeby2172
@wadesaleeby2172 Год назад
My dog is Danish and he is much loved!
@2Zemog
@2Zemog 2 года назад
Hi, I'm a teacher. May I use parts of this video for upper secondary history education (VG2)?
@NorthernHistory
@NorthernHistory 2 года назад
Hi, of course.
@Perspectiveon
@Perspectiveon Месяц назад
Nice work. If central and Southern Europe keep moving right and the Nordic countries stay Centrist/Left-Centrist - who knows - there might still come a time for the mothballed Nordic Union.
@Vingul
@Vingul 2 года назад
Episk!
@janlindtner305
@janlindtner305 2 года назад
400 years of darkness. With best regards. Jan
@kknudsen4907
@kknudsen4907 2 года назад
Danes and Norwegians are brothers and there is a lot of love between the 2 countries now… now the Swedes.. that’s a whole other story… haha. In all seriousness Scandinavian like to razz each other but we do love each other. 🇩🇰🇳🇴🇩🇰🇳🇴
@janlindtner305
@janlindtner305 2 года назад
@@kknudsen4907 Vi er Vikinger!!!!! Jan
@ReginnKunnr
@ReginnKunnr 7 месяцев назад
Undskyld.
@Leif-vc9ek
@Leif-vc9ek Год назад
My dad looks just like king Christian II it’s actually weird
@jaenmartens5697
@jaenmartens5697 Год назад
Skoll og takk. The global controllers will not succeed indefinitely. Cruelty is not sustainable. 🇲🇽👍
@johnolsen2754
@johnolsen2754 6 месяцев назад
Tell the real truth of how Norway was on b the losing end of a 500 union with Denmark and Sweden.
@Diddiwehy
@Diddiwehy 3 месяца назад
Are you danish, by any chance?
@mortenchristiansen4331
@mortenchristiansen4331 2 месяца назад
Quite a few omissions and misrepresentations in this rather “norwegian nationalistic” angle on history.
@NorthernHistory
@NorthernHistory Месяц назад
I quite explicitly state on the video (and on this channel in general) that Nordic history is told from a Norwegian point of view. Nationalism is unavoidable because you somehow have to capture the mood in how modern Norway was born out of the union of the two kingdoms.
@Darkstar-se6wc
@Darkstar-se6wc 2 года назад
So sad that Scandinavians are committing suicide through immigration.
@heno02
@heno02 2 года назад
So sad that you are beset with delusions.
@SoelengaaerbagAaseneed
@SoelengaaerbagAaseneed 2 года назад
lmao
@user-nk5es9iy8i
@user-nk5es9iy8i 2 года назад
I'm not gonna take a political stance on this, but Sweden's immigration policies differs extremely from Denmark, it's basically night and day. Look it up.
@gingerconnoisseur7395
@gingerconnoisseur7395 Год назад
Letting you into Scandinavia would also be suicide.
@Darkstar-se6wc
@Darkstar-se6wc Год назад
@@gingerconnoisseur7395 - A few sexual assaults and grenade attacks are a small price to pay for the joys of vibrant diversity, eh?
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