Twitch Vocal Coach Reacts to "Sound of Silence" Sung by Henk Poort on Beste Zangers 2019

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[BEFORE YOU COMMENT ABOUT AUTOTUNE] To hear Henk Poort sing Sound of Silence WITHOUT autotune, listen to this: • Henk Poort - Sound of ...
Autotune is rarely used to make up for a deficit in a singer's ability anymore. If you think I'm saying he doesn't sing well, then you have a lot to learn about how music production works and how to listen to singers. Beste Zangers is a TV show that is edited in post. Every recording from this program needs to go through a level of editing and balancing to make up for the acoustic and make sure that the sound is acceptable across a wide range of audio devices. That's why an audio engineer chose to use auto tune. I hope you learned something today.
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@pdutchie4924 3 года назад

Beautiful, his face said ‘yes I made it, especially for you ‘. 😍

@dereksinistre5078 3 года назад

Henk is the only singer who never used feedback earpiece in this show even for this song where he attempted to distort his voice for the first time during his career as a singer (just for Floor). The idea that he is autotuned seems like an insult. If at all, it is post production audio tweeking. During the season you can pick up mistakes, pitchiness in some songs because it is live performance. Not for Henk or Floor tho. :)

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

It's not. You can hear the difference when you listen to the live. Not a bash on his ability.

@dereksinistre5078 3 года назад

@@BigBrainSinger i didnt say it was, only that it seems like. Also the shame is on those who autuned him (if they did) not you. I wouldnt foolow your channel if i didnt trust your ear. 👍

@janklas7079 3 года назад

@@BigBrainSinger I have heared Him live, several times He was NOT autotuned here.

@corneliusantonius3108 3 года назад

@@janklas7079 You went to Henks Solo tour ?

@janklas7079 3 года назад

@@corneliusantonius3108 I have visited like 30 performances of him, including phantom of the opera in the last 30 years. I do hear WHY one would think he's autotuned, but he's not. This is his voice.

@kimfabritiusdetengnagel2038 3 года назад

This version is better than the Disturbed version in my opinion. Henk's voice are simply more full of expression and passion. But Henk is not afraid of doing new techniques with his voice - and that's because of Floor's impact on him and the show in general. Floor and Henk are close friends now, and I hope she is using him on her solo album - they are great together, which became obvious during the 9 extra shows. Henk is doing duet with Floor on an old ReVamp song also (besides Phantom....) and he is enjoying himself max - and enjoying his duets with Floor, which is quite understandable, while they are really phenomenal together.

@corneliusantonius3108 3 года назад

The Resonance in his voice is awesome. There may be some post production tricks going on. If Henk floors even Floor with his performance it must be good. I saw them live in The hague, and his voice made the venue vibrate.

@NeeceLoneWolf 3 года назад

My brother passed January 5th and the Disturbed version was played because he loved Disturbed along with Metallica and IDC who sings this song it will be special for me.

@katy9291 3 года назад

Im so sorry for your loss 🙏

@torbenjohansen6955 3 года назад

He is doing disturbeds version of simon & Garfunkel's Sound of silence ;-)

@tarsiusbancanus5279 3 года назад

All of the songs recorded live at the show were studio-mixed for a simultatanious charts, Itunes, Spotify release together with the airing of the episodes of Beste Zangers. So on tv you're hearing the studio-mixed recordings taken from the live performances with some of the reaction sounds mixed in. I think there was about 4 or 5 months between the sessions on Ibiza and the airing of the actual show. That may explain a few things perhaps ;-)

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

Absolutely! Makes sense.

@tarsiusbancanus5279 3 года назад

@@BigBrainSinger I do like it when I make sense sometimes :P Cheers

@corneliusantonius3108 3 года назад

Thank you !

@corneliusantonius3108 3 года назад

@@BigBrainSinger Maybe you could pin his comment

@MikeFurl 20 дней назад

Just FYI, no biggie, but his name is Henk (short for Hendrikus), never “Hank.” So many reactors insist on calling him Hank. Anyway, an excellent reaction. Insightful and professional. Thank you.

@mcvanderkroef 2 года назад

Love your reaction, so full of knowledge. Love Henk (and Floor) for so long and your reaction 💚

@MisterJ56 3 года назад

Season 2019 was (according to me) the best season of Beste Zangers. Now you've heard an opera singer singing songs out of his comfort zone, but in season 2018 there was an opera singer called Maria Fiselier with her version of “Lose Yourself” (Eminem): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8YyuIkVSx-8.html

@ralfmeyer9086 3 года назад

Beste Zangers 2019 the best music show i ever see. I come in, want to see my Queen Floor is there. But then, Henk, Samantha, Emma, Rolf, Ruben, Tim. What amazing Artists.

@cindycindy9793 3 года назад

Henk is amazing!!❤

@thtadthtshldntbe 3 года назад

I don't think the technical producers for Beste Zangers were prepared for how powerful Floor and Henk's voices were. You can hear improvements to the recording quality in later episodes. Also, Henk went on Tour with Floor after this. They did Phantom there too. Much of the house band for Beste Zangers were the backing band. While there are no high quality recordings of those shows that I know of, you can hear them both go for it more there with a more prepared technical situation.

@RudyBleeker 3 года назад

Floor still has one concert left to do in the series, which has been postponed quite a few times now due to our good friend Coronavirus. I have tickets for that show and am eagerly waiting for it to finally happen. There was a crowdfunding campaign done by Floor to have those shows (it's been split into 2 shows with half the audience each because of Covid) professionally recorded for everyone who can't be there. If I recall all the goals were funded so there should be some high quality footage of Floor and Henk doing their thing in the near future, hopefully.

@thtadthtshldntbe 3 года назад

@@RudyBleeker Ah you are correct. I thought that she had mentioned doing a high quality recording of that last show, maybe for a bluray and streaming release.

@RudyBleeker 3 года назад

@@thtadthtshldntbe since it's been funded already, I'm hopeful it'll go straight to RU-vid or other free streaming platforms

@thtadthtshldntbe 3 года назад

@@RudyBleeker part of me agrees with you, but with all the censorship floating around, I am reverting my thoughts to wanting to own all my own media again.

@diosyntaxa 3 года назад

I saw the comment about her looking like an elf! That's what I thought when I saw this! \o/ Nice to know I'm not alone in that... Oh, and she looked just lovely as an elf too :) And yes, Henk is great!

@luisnunes2010 3 года назад

Bravo! Bravo, Henk! 👏 Charlie, please hit some more Manowar one of these days. There are some delicious low notes strewn about their discography...

@PittDaddy 3 года назад

I love this performance. It really bothers me that YT took down Jenniezelf's translated versions of these performances. They were obviously not just replays of their copyrighted material. I hope Jennie can come to an arrangement with Avotros.

@circulation69 3 года назад

You can find most of the translated Denise Hofs versions on the "Daily Motion" platform and a few of them are back up on youtube (until avotros spots them again). Here's a link to this episode :) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YvqyKUvbWF8.html

@eugeneveen38 3 года назад

Big Brain Singer there is no autotune involved here. Henk Poort had to learn it in 1.5 to 2 hours. I don't know where you get that from, but there was certainly no autotune involved.

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

From the actual audio sound. Never said it's because he needed it...

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

To hear Henk Poort sing Sound of Silence WITHOUT autotune, listen to this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NLt0OpxVEig.html Autotune is rarely used to make up for a deficit in a singer's ability anymore. If you think I'm saying he doesn't sing well, then you have a lot to learn about how music production works and how to listen to singers. Beste Zangers is a TV show that is edited in post. Every recording from this program needs to go through a level of editing and balancing to make up for the acoustic and make sure that the sound is acceptable across a wide range of audio devices. That's why an audio engineer chose to use auto tune. I hope you learned something today.

@eugeneveen38 3 года назад

@@BigBrainSinger You don't have to tell me what The Best Singer is for a TV show. There is only one thing you forget. The show is small-scale and therefore not comparable to a concert. There is no audience either. The only people present are the other artists and at a concert you always have an audience and it is much bigger. A singing voice can also be affected by weather conditions or if an artist is nervous or jittery during a live performance, which makes the voice sound different. What I do know is that no autotune was used here.

@TheJolanda01 3 года назад

No autotune this is live

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

@sen-sai1342 3 года назад

@@BigBrainSinger lol that is comparing apples with oranges. One song a night.. or a whole concert.. as I said earlier... your credibility is gone..

@blackblossomjojo4599 3 года назад

@@BigBrainSinger There is some auto-tune, definitely. But I think this recording and performance is much better than the one in your link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8DtifLSGxZg.html

@papaverweg 3 года назад

Bravo Henk

@rientsdijkstra4266 2 года назад

Autotune on Henk Poort??? You must be kidding man... Henk Poort was a PROFESSIONAL baritone (or bass) in big productions in the Netherlands LONG before the invention of autotune!!!

@KnightPassions Год назад

He was singing it especially for Floor.

@jeroenkommer6467 Год назад

No autotune here he is just that good yes some of us are just that good and he is even better

@pekkakarppinen1608 3 года назад

This is an excellent performance. He did this classic in "Disturbed's style". So notice how red (😠) his head turned when he used the "distortion" (which is an absolute no no to the "serious" opera singer). As a Henk's long time fan girl Floor asked politely him to do it and also coached him. Anyway i really feared that his head will explode at any time. Haha, fortunately not and we had a wonderful and emotional experience. ⛄👍

@robhofkes3221 3 года назад

She never asked and coached him for this. She didn't know that he would do this. That's why her reaction is genuine

@pekkakarppinen1608 3 года назад

@@robhofkes3221 Oh yes, not with this but before the "Phantom" duet if i remember correct. Somewhere i heard or red it.

@robhofkes3221 3 года назад

@fokka from what i know and heared she didn't coached him either for the Phantom number. Henk was tought by another vocal coach to do this.

@pekkakarppinen1608 3 года назад

@@robhofkes3221 I've definitely heard or red otherwise. Let us not stuck with this. The results are excellent. ⛄👍

@robhofkes3221 3 года назад

Agree with that. That song sounds amazing

@black4pienus 3 года назад

Autotuned? That's just his voice.

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

Go listen to him singing this live in concert. You'll hear the difference.

@marcusfranconium3392 3 года назад

@@BigBrainSinger yeah right 2 different venues one at a poolside in ibiza and one in a load poor acaustic setting. filmed by fan cams . Lost a sub.

@janklas7079 3 года назад

@@BigBrainSinger I have heared him live. Did you? This performance was NOT autotuned.

@corneliusantonius3108 3 года назад

@@BigBrainSinger I did on Floors solo tour. Maybe this helps: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fcEvZqK4n0M.html Innamorato | 4 baritons. The sound quality in The Hague was pretty good, but indeed less polished but that could alsoo be the (rock) set up and venue.

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

@Thijssie1989 3 года назад

Lol, the link you posted is just prove there is no autotune what so ever in this show. Sound just as great as here in the "Beste Zangers"

@janklas7079 3 года назад

This was not autotuned.

@corneliusantonius3108 3 года назад

I wonder have you been to more of his classical singing like this ? Innamorato | 4 baritons : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fcEvZqK4n0M.html 👀

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

if you listen to him sing this same song at a live concert, you'll hear the difference.

@Thijssie1989 3 года назад

@@BigBrainSinger No, you don't. It maybe don't sound the same because Beste Zangers is not filmed with a telephone. But it is both live, with no autotune.

@confuzedpenguin9974 3 года назад

Don't get the auto tube thing. Like I can't hear it at all.

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

listen to him singing it at a live concert. You'll hear the difference.

@wendykerkhof8691 Год назад

you know he did phantom 6 times a week....no need for autotune

@SMenkveld 3 года назад

I'd be interested to hear from those who claim to be able to hear autotune, what exactly it is that you're hearing? Is it something in the phase domain? Or, as I've thought, is it that, if one pitch corrects the fundamental, the harmonics will get progressively more wrong as the harmonic order increases? (ie, a 2% correction at F1 becomes 4% at F2, 8% at F3, 16% at F4, etc.) Then, when you consider the non-linerarity of human hearing, such that we are more sensitive to harmonic errors if they are of higher or odd order... What is autotune doing, in what ways and in which domain, (frequency, time, phase) such that a trained listener can consistently distinguish autotune from other signal processing? I often hear analysts call "autotune!"... But they never say why and how. Be the first on RU-vid to actually break this down... If anyone can do it, you can. (For what it's worth, I was a Sonar Technician, so I tend to think about sound in terms of its structure and behavior... Which are really weird.)

@ralfmeyer9086 3 года назад

Floors face, told more, as every comment 😊

@fiorelainen623 3 года назад

Autotuning so much?!? There might be (and probably is) some fine tuning in the post-production. But there is no notable ”autotuning effect” anywhere to be heard in here. So from where does that ”too much” come from? Or are you referring to the ”original” Disturbed version? In that you could definitely hear the autotune...

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

Maybe my ear is more sensitive to it.

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

Go listen to him sing it in a live performance. There's a clear difference

@fiorelainen623 3 года назад

@@BigBrainSinger Well, I am a REALLY autotune-sensitive person. So. I’m just wondering how I’m not getting that vibe from this performance. Also Henk is so seasoned professional - and is right on pitch on his pre-autotune era live recordings - that I really wonder if you are hearing what you think you are hearing...

@fiorelainen623 3 года назад

@@BigBrainSinger you mean like this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NLt0OpxVEig.html ? Yep, Henk is definitely a little bit out of tune in some places. But it is a totally different performance and totally different circumstances. He might not hear the band properly, the crowd noices and their sing-a-long might also get him a little off. His voice - or he himself - might be tired. Not concentrating 100 %. Or... and recorded via phone mics, which is not an ideal thing either. In Beste zangers the performance was recorded in quite an intimate and controllable situation. He probably did hear the band - and get the tune - much easier without earbuds, than he does in the larger crowd situations. The overall noise might make it even difficult to hear his own voice properly sometimes in these mass concert situations (not in real concert halls and with electronic instruments). And I am not denying there is some (a lot) post-production made. Definitely there is. And maybe some fine tuning done to his pitch also. But I am not hearing ”too much autotuning” at all. Sorry.

@deanabennett8461 3 года назад

I did hear the post production auto tune on Disturbeds Conan performance which he explicitly did not want. But when I saw Disturbed live I assure you there was no autotune. Fantastic performance as is this one. Mr. Poort has YEARS of experience and if there was auto tune he certainly didn't need it.

@OneTheAndOnlyOne 3 года назад

this is not autotuned.

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

@OneTheAndOnlyOne 3 года назад

@@BigBrainSinger I know what autotune is. I've worked with it when it just "came out" (1997) when I made house music (here known as hardcore). Auto-Tune can correct a singer's "bad notes" and "crappy" pitch. Beste Zangers is touched up for broadcasting and for the album releases. You also can't compare a crappy phone recording with this. Also the link you gave is a gig with Floor Jansen were he's doing multiple songs instead of just 1 song (this is also noticeable in the voice). Also De Beste zangers is aired for many years and still is an ongoing show. If you listen to the years before and even after you definitely hear singers sing bad notes and have wavering pitches. They stated everything is live without autotune, but yes they do some audio edit. But as I just said you can hear people "mess up" some songs(little faults) , they don't correct that.. So why would they do that with Henk Poort? Edit: if you compared it with the Disturbed version, you can clearly hear the massive autotuning on the "Disturbed version". But not on the "Henk Poort version".

@gerbentvandeveen 3 года назад

Disturbed - The Sound Of Silence [Official Music Video] / Disturbed ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-u9Dg-g7t2l4.html Simon & Garfunkel - The Sound of Silence (from The Concert in Central Park) / SimonGarfunkelVEVO ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NAEppFUWLfc.html

@merenwen4495 3 года назад

Autotuned? No. A bit tweaked afterwards? Yes. I have seen him on multiple shows, he doesn’t need autotune. You say you can hear the difference between this and another performance of his. I have a performance here for you and you tell me how the quality of his singing is any different: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DKPLBu-413E.html (it’s Dutch but that doesn’t matter for the singing).

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

@merenwen4495 3 года назад

@@BigBrainSinger that is one of the worst performances I have ever heard from him. Where do I imply that you are saying he isn’t singing well? That denigrating tone of yours in your videos towards your twitchers and now in this comment is reason enough for me not to watch any of your videos anymore. Bye

@marcelschellekens6386 3 года назад

there is no autotune used. that's a downright insult.

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

It's not... To hear Henk Poort sing Sound of Silence WITHOUT autotune, listen to this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NLt0OpxVEig.html Autotune is rarely used to make up for a deficit in a singer's ability anymore. If you think I'm saying he doesn't sing well, then you have a lot to learn about how music production works and how to listen to singers. Beste Zangers is a TV show that is edited in post. Every recording from this program needs to go through a level of editing and balancing to make up for the acoustic and make sure that the sound is acceptable across a wide range of audio devices. That's why an audio engineer chose to use auto tune. I hope you learned something today.

@marcelschellekens6386 3 года назад

@@BigBrainSinger I know that with auto-tune the sound is sometimes cooked. when you talk about that, come on, I understand. But autotune is and remains for me that shitty thing that sometimes messes up life music, lifted B-artists unjustly, and in general is an undervaluation or overvaluation of the artist with whom it is used. I'm not talking about the times it is used as an artistic toy. "cher", "kanye".

@passionoflovers 3 года назад

Strong baritone? Isn't much of this in a tenor range?

@hermenw.huiskamp8555 3 года назад

Hiya, I heard you remark this on other besteZangers' clips: what's up with autotune? 1. How do you know? Can you tell me how to recognise autotune? 2. Are you really sure about the use of autotune, as I heard other performances that were not that good, and were aired that way (just saying)? Are you sure that singers with more thanX years of stage experience need autotune? Or is it an American thing that without a performer has no credibility? As most pop artists from the US that I hear cannot sing a live concert to save their lives! Please clarify so I understand...

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

Go listen to his live version of this recorded by a fan cam and listen to the difference. It's not a bash on his singing, more of a choice made by the audio engineer in post.

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

Never said anyone *needs* auto tune ...

@hermenw.huiskamp8555 3 года назад

@@BigBrainSinger Ahh ok, thanks for the explanation. I was wondering, but you were commenting on the post production. I think we can agree that they can do only so much ;)

@revylokesh1783 3 года назад

Autotune, even if used ever so slightly, immediately sounds unnatural and metallic to me. But then again, my ears have been tuned by 70s, 80s, and early 90s singers, who had to have actual talent to make it on record.

@bertbouwhuis 3 года назад

Autotune? I mean, AUTOTUNE????? REALLY CHARLIE?!?!?! SERIOUSLY???? Henk Poort!!!? Heard this guy live, would never ever need autotune being the professional opera and musical singer he is. Come on.

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

@bertbouwhuis 3 года назад

@@BigBrainSinger point seen, taken and granted, and thanks for the lesson. I stand corrected and not to bigheaded to admit that.

@rinouitslag9085 9 месяцев назад

Hello my friend great reaction thanks.. Please check out the new Beste zangers van Nederland 2023...there are already 2 chapters played...thank you. Have a wonderful weekend

@Brax1982 2 года назад

He IS doing Disturbed's version, complete with the awful tuning. But less so, it's not too bad. And to people who are SO SURE it is not tuned...learn to listen, as Charlie says at the end of all these. Because if you cannot hear it, then the industry has already managed to make this the norm to consumer's ears. There's almost none of these shows that don't use it in post, at least. From what I understand, both Draiman and Poort didn't want it on there. You can always claim that, I guess. But they have no say in that, no reason to not believe them.

@Ennello 2 года назад

I generally don't really like Henk Poort in these songs. In musicals (which he usually does) his voice really shines, cause it's so expressive. But when he's singing different songs, the vibrato that usually adds to his expression, comes through much clearer. It's a very prominent vibrato. From what I can hear, it spans more than an octave, and I just don't think it sounds good in this setting. And he does it all the time...

@rebelbabeconner9064 3 года назад

Henk is trying his best to sing it... but he doesn't feel it... big difference....

@jetfromholland4533 3 года назад

Henk Poort is not autotuned

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

@zhommes7315 3 года назад

autotune?? No way this is the real deal

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

just a little. Can be distracting if you know what to listen for.

@gerardmosselveld5533 3 года назад

No autotuned !

@KellzzVP 3 года назад

0 autotune sir.

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

Listen to him sing this at a live concert, you'll be able to hear the difference...

@Marber656 2 года назад

Autotuned????? No sir, this is great, uncomfortable?? Took him 2 hours

@davewetering7554 7 месяцев назад

Sush

@SchilderwerkenAntheunisLeiden 3 года назад

Autotune? There is no autotune on this show... you are a joke bro..🤣

@jacqvanm4882 3 года назад

Sorry, they did not autotune Henk....no need...

@draganakuzmanovic911 3 года назад

You should totally do double reaction containing Nightwish - Our decades in the Sun and Samantha's (blonde woman) cover of it, in Dutch! Nightwish never performed it live, 'cause it's too emotional. Samantha sang it to Floor! Nightwish: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8NC7259TPgE.html Samantha: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6kxocWr0YHI.html

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

Imagine if autotune wasn't only used for pitch correction

@corneliusantonius3108 3 года назад

Than you get that Cher song "Do you Believe"

@BigBrainSinger 3 года назад

@rientsdijkstra4266 2 года назад

No autotune on beste zangers ( = "best singers", ...autotune is for pop kiddies, who can't sing)

@sen-sai1342 3 года назад

autotuning him so much... lol you just lost all creditability .. there is no autotune on this show... LMAO.. bye bye