Twitter VS Vaush Part 2 

hell nah

No thanks, I can still hear my diarrhea even with raycon earbuds, and I try to silence everything out

Lmao, Raycon really went like "Oh, this is pedo bestiality drama situation? Yep, a nice vid to promote our product" 💀

@@cyntdestroyer69xdit really is lmao, so many people interested in this “drama”

oil up

It's funny since his fans consider that explaination to be "the context" we're taking off to make him look bad. Given how terminally online vaush is with his streams, the dude is basically a walking liability. There is so much stream content from him, the risk of a slip up exposing something really nasty about him is tenfold than what it would be for other content creators. And the context is all out there.

And also, there’s a video of him saying that CP is not inmoral …

Ngl I think the difference is kind of irrelevant, yes buying sneakers made with child labour does not reflect as badly on the person buying as cp does on the person watching, but if you're looking just at the material impact, I'd say it's comparable (tough cp is obviously still worse). Vaush is a terrible person, but that doesn't mean everything he says is automatically wrong.

​@@Cube-xm6vt Questioning importing goods made by child labour when we outlawed the practice ourselves was by itself a reasonable enough criticism. There absolutely wasn't any need to bring up the topic of cp, or argue the validity of our views and laws regarding it, or try justifying why it should be okay in our country because children in another country make sneakers.

@@anonymousperson1771 But he didn't say that? He just said that child labour is as bad as cp. Just because you think idk the armenian genocide is just as bad as the holocaust, doesn't mean you think that the holocaust was justified, it's kinda the point of analogies. Of course Vaush is hypocritical in that he criticized cp and then has it saved on his pc, but being hypocritical has nothing to do with wether the argument is good or not. I think part of the reason Vaush's audience is so reluctanct to condem Vaush is because of stuff like this, where he is called a pedophile for the dumbest reasons (such as this misunderstood clip), so even when there is actual reason to call him a pedo, they just assume that it's like the other times.

LMFAO

DAMN

DOUBLE WHAMMY

This is one of those lines you gotta read twice to get the full picture

ok this was a good one lmaooo

Jesus Christ… why the hell would you want to be rape horse unironically??

he literally said the 3000 year argument was something that "right wing pedophiles" use

Dude the type in the sauna scene in one piece to be focus on otama instead of robin,nami,and Yamato Dude probably was angry that genshin impact dint give qiqi from the game a swimsuit

Fr also not surprised on tipster for his musty pedo @ss to defend his fellow musty kind

​@@gameuniverse5973those are some really specific examples

Tbf Vaush regularily debates actual nazis

He was right about the "its just a drawing argument". Why are all the cartoon pdofiles coming out of the woodworks to criticize Vaush? You're all JUST as bad as him.

the nazi thing is super bizarre. i've seen the most left wing progressive people get called nazis for wording things the wrong way. people need to read books written by people who survived the actual nazis. maybe that'd stop it.

Miss kobayashi’s dragon maid is obviously just harmless fun but the images this dude had on that folder are horrific indeed

Seems to me that these types are usually always the 'rules for thee, but not for me' kind of people. So ultimately hypocrites.

Maybe vaush will join Cyraxx's and tibbz pedo ring

Fr. I couldn't understand either lol.

"You never go full vitch"

Boglim mode 😂

Where's Vaush's version of Music Biz Marty's when we need him?

Don't think anyone ever will. Indefensible.

before i left twitter i tried to get an answer from him and his friend, years before all this. none of this is surprising, but it is incredibly cathartic to watch.

Exactly…

As I understand it, the claim is the "natural progression" of socialism in deconstructing power structures, imbalances and social oppression will "necessitiate" revisting our views on the rights and protections of minors, including cp. Setting the foundation for a groomer's playground.

right but my point is he keeps insisting everyone is just taking him out of context and he's explained everything. except as far as i'm aware this remains unexplained by him and ignored. @masterbaiter8961

You can say PORN. it's okay to say PORN

Yeah this is just his recently watched stuff, If hate to see what his worst stuff is.

lot weird how someone still saves porn on their computer

@@leoscrymgeour5881ikr phones are a thing for a reason

@@leoscrymgeour5881 not only that but the fact that someone regularly downloads so many different files they have to have a giant "to be sorted" folder. i download like 5 files a month MAYBE wtf is he downloading?

That where the real horses are. As well as the children

well yeah, he mostly likes furry art

Gotta sort it by species

The problem is anyone who supports him doesn't have enough braincells to understand that, and he's genuinely evil enough to prey on that because he has no morals and probably the only reason he doesn't prey on children is that he doesn't want to get put in jail for it.

Exactly. In fact, a lot of people are now specifically choosing to buy clothes from companies that make an effort to ethically produce their clothing. It’s also one of the reasons some people thrift when they may not necessarily need to. And the same can be said for chocolate, and all the other stuff he mentioned. He’s sitting there acting like people don’t give a fuck about child labor at all when that’s not true.

Yea if anything people are ashamed of that shiz and dont want it brought up.

Yesss.. the hypocrisy

The funniest part is that even if the loli stuff does go unsubstantiated, his advocation for the AoC(age of consent) being lowered STILL makes him look bad. 'anti-loli' but also 'AoC should be lowered' jfc.

@@unironicallydel7527 he’s said that it should be lowered to 16 under very specific circumstances as a joke. Afaik, anything more egregious than that is unsubstantiated

@@TheseUselesshe said “he had yet to hear an argument why the age of consent shouldn’t be lowered” multiple times

@@MrMilla22 …to 16. And that doesn’t mean he’s in favour of lowering it.

Vaush is an anti-semite?!?! omg cancelled 🙃

Man… that’s quality humor right there.

shortstack thick goblin gf doing my taxes while wearing vaush's glasses*..... shit sounds fire..

😂

goblins would 100% commit tax fraud if given the opportunity

Yeah as much as I loathe to say it, Jayln actually made a good point. If people actually thought what Vaush had was as bad as actual CP like they claim, then they wouldn’t be okay with actively posting it on X and putting it in their videos and streams. The loli = CP argument simply isn’t a hill worth dying on though. However, Vaush should absolutely be brought up on his response given that he’s opposed loli content in the past on the principles that people are now using against him (which if you know of him isn’t surprising, he’s said in the past that his only principle is to win, hence the immediate backpedal when he’s found doing something he’s claimed to oppose), and the fact that he blatantly lied about the content showing that he felt the need to justify it as somehow not loli when it undeniably is. I didn’t have a positive view of Vaush to begin with, so for me this is very much a “chickens coming home to roost” thing for me, it’s not going to drive him off the internet but I think it will cripple his potential growth as a large portion of the internet who didn’t know of him before will now forever know him as the “loli horse guy”.

@@captainweekend5276 It's drawn cp. You know, just like how hentai is Japanese animated porn. It's not "real" porn, but it is a type of porn.

​@@captainweekend5276again, unless I'm misreading your post. Drawn CP is CP under American federal law. Where Vaush is at, '(1) engaged as a subject of sadomasochistic abuse; (2) engaged in sexual conduct; or (3) in a state of sexual excitement.' If it's clearly a child, which judging by people reaction. IT IS, then vaush does have CP.

@@Mekirah This is where we get into the "not a hill worth dying on" part, but you bring up an interesting point which is judging by people's reactions. First of all, that's a bad metric of which to judge by, there's a reason why we actually have courts of law rather than judging solely by the court of public opinion. Second of all it swings back to my point, which is if people really thought it was CP, then why would they accept it being posted on social media sites? After all the same people who claim it's literally CP are also platforming it for others to see, there's a fundamental disconnect there. You may think that it conclusively reaches the definition of drawn CP, but that doesn't change the fact that sites hosted in America will host such content, people in America can produce such content and are not arrested for it, and people in America can freely view such content. That's before even getting into the weeds of a loli is simply not the same thing as an anatomically correct child, a direct comparison cannot be made. Furthermore if we go into what you posit as the clear cut definition, we find that many things we don't even consider pornography to begin with are capable of reaching these definitions are actually relatively commonplace in media. Is Big Mouth CP because it shows "(2) engaged in sexual conduct; or (3) in a state of sexual excitement"? Again I'm not defending Vaush or loli content but you're just trying to sidestep the entire issue by claiming it is definitively CP by just ignoring everything contrary to that being the case.

@@josie6564 Found a Vaush defender. Guess Vaush is a rightoid then.

When did he ever say there could be ethical cp or endorse lowering the aoc?

@@DriscolDevil There's a clip that's been going around where he said something along the lines of: in a socialist society, imbalances of power will be reduced, therefore requiring a lowering of the age of consent. You can just look up the specific clip though, do a little research.

​@tumultoustortellini if you're going to make a claim, you have to back it up. I agree with you, but saying something like that won't get you anywhere

@@tumultoustortellini "do your own research" Like when people claimed he defended cp based on a clip where he used it as an analog for child labor? It isn't on me to support your claims. I've watched a lot of his videos so I know how this routine usually works. I'm not the kind of moron that jumps on a bandwagon based on a clip that you can't even direct me towards.

I wish there was a draft and vaush gets sent to Ukraine and now he will see if he is a big man now

Eyy just saw you in this other guy’s comment section, neat!

That’s a good one

He got what he deserved for being so *childish* 😡😡

Vaush prefers you to talk about his horse fetish over his child fetish.

"Hey guys remember Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron?? Well lets say Spirit kind of awoke something in me" -Vaush

Or going "muh context" or "but his argument is" like yeah that's totally gonna make you look like someone who doesn't defend a person who wants to fuck drawn children as a horse.

Color me suprised! Seriously he mentions it in so much of his streams that Commentary Channels literally called out the Creep!

​@FTChomp9980 how am I able to find you in every youtube comment section 😭

Everyone already knew this

No surprise, what kind of guy talks about "Child Corn" being legal....

I mean... Idk. I despise Vaush, but loli =/= CP. Someone could crank it to loli and not wanna hurt a kid. Idk, maybe I'm wrong but I feel like calling him a p3do or calling loli CP is kinda disingenuous.

Was not expecting a Vtuber calling him out lol. That also wasn't on the bingo card

Based Pink Rabbit

Pippa let's gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo~!

pip pipipipipipip

Yeah, feels really weird 😂 Its understandable tho, the delusional horse freak did call her a nazi at one point.

That gives me goosebumps of uncomfortable

Closeted Brony. Dude has that stereotypical look.

There was a clip where he expresses the desire to fck Rapidash the pokemon.

MLP 3d futa cock hero

Indeed he is

I never understood why people even watch him, he's not some philosopher and certainly has the worst takes, plus he supports Biden, and NATO, that's someone I don't take as a genius

​@@КГБКолДжорджКостанцаlike it matters what people you support in politics. They all suck.

Let its paypigs pay, as long as most people know what it's sexual interests are, it won't cause much more meaningful damage.

They’re desensitized

@@CantRead1based opinion.

Honestly, I think a lot of his audience is pretty sick of his shit at this point. Only reason anyone even follows him is cause he represents a niche viewpoint on the Left that other political streamers don't cover (Destiny is a Democratic party sycophant; Hasan isn't but is also a firm believer of the "America Bad" stance). As soon as someone else comes along, that can fill in that niche while also not being a creep who starts drama every other thursday, Vaush will get left behind.

Indeed, is common for political youtubers to have a parasocial relationship with their audience, he could have watched actual cp live and there would be people saying he did nothing wrong...

​@@seagullman87Agreed

None of it is new. If they didn't stop before they won't now

if it's cp then boblax distrubuted censored cp ehincline searched and looked for cp keemstar had a video of censored cp need I go on we've gone from vaush's disgusting takes on AOC to l0li this is why I hate antis serious allegations get watered down

Until we have any anthropological evidence that those drawings lead to actual harm done to anyone, you dont have ab argument. Saying its disgusting is not an argument in relation to art, because thats how art works.

And other CSA victims disagree with you and say that lolisho is empowering to them, so you don’t have the justification to say videogames cause violence.

you better have some real GOOD proof before you start opening up this whole "fiction effect reality" can of worms.

Videogames causing violence really is a solid comparison here. Cartoons in themselves don't necessarily normalize action in reality, but as much as it can, it also can be used to vent and explore dangerous desires in safe ways. Most notably, Studies have showed that violent video games can reduce violent tendencies in those that already had one.(Even if it doesn't always do so) Similarly, Pedos are going to exist regardless of if they have a healthy vents for their desires. The question is, would you rather them do so with the fake kids, or the real ones? Because it sounds like the only other options is to force them to bottle it up until they eventually boil over, or to eliminate them entirely. Both of which are...optimistic at best. We can tolerate the existence of cartoon pornography without normalizing it in reality. It's just a matter of deciding when that line is crossed. I'd even go so far to say it's okay ostracize those who are attracted to cartoon children in specific aspects of society(particularly those related to children), but it starts causing more harm then good if you start to ostracize them from every aspect of society, especially when it requires direct acts of force to do so.

​@@JamesP7 Which CSA Victim said, without any satirical tone, that Drawing of Kids getin[rald] is Empowering? What kinda goofy ass shit is that..?

Real

andy and leyley pilled behavior

Ehh I don't like both but Ethan has a slight moral ground

i dont like ethan either but i see what he means @@КГБКолДжорджКостанца

@@axeltheghost6824Ethan isn’t into loli shit, Good enough for me

​@@recneps1230get some fucking standards bruv

​@@axeltheghost6824"expected better" bro they're RU-vidrs

Reminds me of that Herbert the Pervert scene where he thought a jockey was a kid

He didn't advocate.

I mean if Vaush were able to convince Destiny, I wonder if Destiny would not be convinced if he knew Vaush watched it.

​@@NorthAyasehe did

@@Thunderblock7889 He didn't.

What

And after being told that they were black continued to say it, and went on multiple livestreams of people who hated her to dox herself.

​@@JohnWilliams-wl9pxinb4 someone says "him*"

I think it's more important to point out Jalyn was admin for a NSFW discord server that knowingly had minors on it

Out of all the bad things you could bring up about him, you chose his lax use of racial slurs? Are you an American by any chance?

@ThePlayer920 I don't barely know anything about Jalyn outside of that. So, while I am American, the answer to your question is that I'm just not terminally online.

What did you expect? This all started over vaush taste in cartoon porn.

Well the context is that that was taken out of context because Vaush, their horse and savior, will lead them to the socialist utopia where they will be able to prey on children with impunity and so can do no wrong. He grants them the power to jump through as many hoops as possible to justify his actual dog's dogshit takes.

iirc he said right after "but it has negative effects so often that it's not worth the risk" but I don't watch him so idk

Oh wait, that was about power imbalance of adult-child relationship. Yea...that one is indefensible.

@thebigblox4297 still doesn't make saying "fucking kids can have good effect on them" any way better. Tbh, that sound more like him just realizing what he said and trying to backpedal

@@TheBloodGamePL fair take, i just felt like sharing the full quote since I remember seeing it

Honestly, it wouldn't even surprise me at this point, especially after he said on stream that he wished the aoc was lower.

Another sane person. This situation made me unsub from Bowblax because he exposed himself as a “killing a videogame character is literal murder deserving of jail-time” believer.

​@@JamesP7that's why I'm just here for the comments and not his actual video lmao

nah you're based for saying that.

​@@JamesP7 wow he thinks its weird having loli and you think its bad

"Hey Batman, I caught a little Ponyta.." -Vaush probably

Because he had just got done saying how fascists are the ones who like Loli

Bowblax would be artistic enough to still be doing this in 20. And I'd be artistic enough to watch.

"Hey yo guys remember Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron?? Well lets say Spirit kind of awoke something in me" -Vaush probably

What bothers me more is that it took cartoons for people to pay attention to Vaush despite the shit he's said about actual CP, advocating of lowering the age of consent, how the fuck did nobody else catch on until anime shit got involved

​@@ArachnidYouthI'ma be honest by guy, this is the first time I've heard of Vaush. I didn't know anything about the CP until later, it could be that.

Also, again. In American drawn CP is still considered CP.

@@Mekirah this is false

"Hey guys remember Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron?? Well lets say Spirir awoke something in me..." -Vaush, probably

Also: the 5th ammendment should be applied proactively to that Jayln person jfc Sooooooooo divorced from reality.

He’s like a soyjack come to life

They must be into the same type of stuff he is into

*Good.* This *"drama"* is a total nothingburger.

You a fan?

Like when he had Hasan on to defend himself going to a brothel that got raided by cops for sex trafficking.

@@recneps1230Vaush or Ethan?

This was my takeaway from all of this. As much of a dunk on vaush as it is I just keep waiting for the accidental uno reverse that's undoubtedly right around the corner waiting for Ethan. You know he's into some weird shit himself. It's only a question of opsec.

@@ojaimark Definitely. Dunking on Vaush is funny but I'm not gonna take Ethan's side on anything.

Ayeee the one FE fan I saw I’m not tryna defend it but I do thinks it’s funny cause like she isn’t 😭

Until we have any anthropological evidence that those drawings lead to actual harm done to anyone, youndjnt have a argument. Saying its disgusting is not an argument in relation to art, because thats how art works.

Well sadly, it do be like that with almost any fetishized idea our disgusting human minds can think up, which is why it is best to look away from the thing that disgusts us unless it specifically harms us or someone else directly.

@@tednicholson9225 Even if we don't have any anthropological evidence (we do, you just don't look it up), there is a very real possibility that cartoon CP eventually leads to consumption of actual CP. Why would you wanna risk it? Why not err on the side of caution and ban loli? What do you lose..

@@tednicholson9225 even if it doesn't cause harm it is extremely weird still to me because that leeds to the question of "how far can someone go from fictional art to real life events?" like I said people who like this kind of stuff say it's ok because "it's not real and art can't consent" but yet again if comes to the hypothetical case where it wasn't art and it was a real life events BUT without consequences would that person who likes that kind of stuff still do it?

@@animator049 yes, the healthiest approach to things like this is just not get involved too much into it, but I do think it's good that Discord and RU-vid has guidelines again Loli stuff and I still think that if someone likes Loli stuff they are indeed weird.

Pretty much with bits of opinion.

🙃💀

Yet another pedo in the comments

Dude get help

💀💀💀💀

Wtf bruh

nah it's more like goku and frieza teaming up to fight jiren