Website Version: superbestfriend... Somehow I feel like literally every decision I made in this episode was the wrong one. Geez Cathy, would've appreciated a bit more of a heads up on this stuff.
We've got an intimate moment where the main characters open up about their experiences and fears. Quick, talk over all of it! Make sure you retain nothing of this meaningful exchange!
They're all "the real Simon" - it's just that the one who died in Toronto was Simon Prime, the original. But who you are now isn't any less real just because you're in a different body, you know? His mind is identical, up to the point where their experiences divulge.
+ceres51892 There is the philosophical argument that its not the mind or body that makes you, you, but its the experiences that make you, you. Obviously there are no right answers to this question and there are plenty of angles and opinions on it, but its an interesting thought.
+ObiTrev First time I've bothered to mention it to anyone, but my browser (or perhaps something else) has a problem sometimes where text just cuts off on certain comments and a "Read More" option isn't available, and I'm guessing that's the same problem the other guy is having too (or they just missed the Read More button). Which I'm guessing might just be RU-vid's fault but maybe not. For anyone else having this problem, if you care enough, a simple workaround is just to highlight and copy the comment and paste it in a text document.
It's probably too late, but they really should have turned the closed captions option on. It puts a name to all the voices, so you can tell which character is talking when. That way, they'd realize that teleporting creature in the crawler (and in the glass case back in Omicron) was actually Ross.
Come and see the newest horror movie for robots and cyborgs alike.... ATTACK OF THE 5FT GINGER! See the monster unplug and blow up these robots with wild abandon! SHOCKING! THRILLING! STUPIDLY BAD AT PUZZLES!
+DarkKnightGrave I thought it was a jokea bout a 500ft ginger irradiated by abyss bullshit, sent to terrorise the world by very specifically tucking himself into bed beneath tectonic plates and yelling about how much he hates kids and wishes he didn't kill all those robot people by missing a giant obvious lever
Yes, "he" is really angry... That monster in a tank top and panties is clearly Dr. Johan Ross... I don't know why but you guys have been having a lot of trouble with character's genders lately.
Kurt Rustle You completely misunderstood my comment. I was sarcastically calling out the Two Best Friends for referring to the clearly female monster as Johan Ross who is clearly a man, and calling it a he. Maybe your time would be better spent actually reading instead of insulting someone for no reason.
+JMarsella9 I thought it was cus they usually have a really darker screen setting so things we see might not be seen by them because recording software bs. That could just be a lie, though.
I honestly don't understand the argument going on in the comments. if my only option was either to stay completely alone at the bottom of the ocean in a run down base, unable to eat, sleep, or do anything to pass the time whatsoever, with a bunch of monsters around, I'd much rather be killed. The reason Simon keeps going is because he's got a goal in mind, not because he thinks it's fun, or he's enjoying himself. Without a goal, he'd have already gone completely insane, and there's no point hoping for anything to happen because you're literally the last human left on earth. Killing yourself would be the best option.
I'm expecting a badass Devil May Cry 3 mission 7 stand-off to happen when we meet back up with that WAU monster at the end of the video. *WAU monster:* You showed up. *Simon:* You sure know how to throw a party. No food, no drinks, and the only babe just left (the omnitool having been destroyed along with Catherine to get to the final stage). *WAU monster:* My sincerest apologie, Simon. I was so eager to see you I couldn't concentrate on preperations for the bash. *Simon:* Whatever. At any rate, it's been a whole hour since we last met. How about a kiss from your favourite puppet? ... Or better yet, how about a kiss from this! *pulls out a custom handgun*
Damn. So this is what the Woolie hole looks like. Also, why is it bad that Pat/Simon killed the old Simon? If I was stuck in that situation I'd do the same thing. And I would be fucking PISSED when I woke up and the new me and Cath were gone. I mean, Cath locked the door to the room so you would literally just wake up and be stuck in a room forever or until whatever batteries you ran on run out. And if the door was unlocked, what the hell would you do? Just walk out that door and face those monsters again? Go all the way back to Upsilon if you even can? I would much rather have the new me kill me than have to go through all that shit.
+alucardyoici A "coward" for not wanting to suffer? You would prefer to be abandoned and left to aimlessly wander around the bottom of the ocean with creatures that want to murder you? _Why?_
FrogWaifu There's nothing to "hope" for. The surface has been destroyed, the only remnants of society are AI in a machine that simulates reality, which is down in the abyss. You are stuck thousands of feet above, because you were abandoned by a clone of yourself and your only friend, with literally nothing to live for. You're all alone at the bottom of the ocean, and there's nothing you can do about it. There's nothing left to hope for.
+Devil On Your Shoulder But how could he catch up? The body he was in wouldn't be able to handle the pressures of the deep. Not only that, but he wouldn't have the omnitool to get through the airlock. That Simon would be able to do NOTHING but roam around.
+F4talMistake hes more often than not flashing it on and off at it when he first sees it, to astablish if it has any effect on it, then he assumes that the flashlight then does nothing to them, i might be right, idk.
+F4talMistake That's his strategy, the monster won't expect him acting like an easily noticeable idiot during stealth sections, so it will get confused and give him time to escape.
For anyone playing along at home, normal atmospheric pressure is 14.696 PSI, and they stopped at a depth of roughly 398 times atmospheric pressure. So that suit is withstanding about 5,850 pounds per square inch of pressure, or roughly the weight of a fully loaded jumbo jet on your back. Pretty impressive.
+-Hyphen- Because letting yourself wake up all alone and confused, trapped to forever roam around deep underwater and likely go insane is the best choice of actions. Who is the true monster here?
All the mercy killers in here seem to be forgetting that Robo-Simon 1.0 is fully capable of killing himself if he later wants to. That's not your decision to make for somebody else. Plus, he's in a fucking diving suit, so it's not like he can't find a way outside and start walking if he wants to fuck right off and go fight Super Mutants on the surface.
Literally 90% of the time when playing this game, NPCs aren't talking. I don't understand why you love talking over NPCs. Why you love doing the bulk of your discussion at the same time the game is trying to explain things to you. I just don't understand.
The more Pat voluntarily ends a life or deletes a brain scan, the more I'm convinced the game will end one of two ways: either it tracks the 'deaths' and gives you a worse ending based on how many, or you're SUPPOSED to be killing them along the way, so that there'll be room for you on the ARK by the time you get there. The normal convention would be that killing = bad, but everyone's technically already dead, and we're just talking about programs that are running in artificial bodies.
+LabTech I feel like just having a binary good/bad ending based on how many things you kill or delete seems very unlikely. The game seems to think a lot about itself and the moral dilemmas it presents, I feel like they'd try to keep the ending relatively fluid too. Then again, they did just have the hilariously dumb Simon freak-out moment, so I might be overestimating the depth of their storytelling
Scrawny McAwesome You would think that having a rich, complex story with interesting characters would have a satisfying ending, but then explain the ending of Mass Effect 3 to me? This has every chance of having a good ending, and every chance of being a complete 180 heel turn bullshit ending that breaks down into a binary ending based on murder tally.
LabTech Myeah, that's the problem isn't it. That describes literally every game ever made, the ending could turn whatever the fuck way the devs felt at the time. The LP finale's gonna be great either way though, so meh
Scrawny McAwesome Oh, for sure it'll turn out fine. If it's a well thought out ending, that's great; if it's a shit-show Pat'll waste no time berating it.
***** Hmm, that could still go either way, but it's not like I'm super invested in the game either way. Just out of curiosity, how far are they into the game at this point? Given how things are going, it seems like once they've gotten to the Abyss, it's the end sequence.
This game really strikes a chord with Omni-Catherine talking about continuity and her perception of time. I've had a handful of occasions where I lost time due to extreme mental/physical stress and fatigue and the one and only time I got blackout drunk. The level of confusion and disonance lasted for a noticeable period after awareness returned, and the realization of the period of missed time was quite stressful in and of itself. Kinda sad that Pat didn't really key up on that and was so focused on the Sir David Attenborough he wishes he could be.
Monster: "YOU!!!... YOU did it... heheh.... I'll be making preparations..." Pat The Psychologist interpretation: "A horrible monster coming up to you and giving you a high five...and telling you 'Good job' and 'I'm gonna peace outta here.'"
It's red light, green light. Monster only attacks if you move while it's active. Also that creepy ghost monster showed up a few more times in my game while exploring other rooms, and said some additional stuff. Guess it appears randomly.
Alejandro Gllrd well then Pat made the right call, kinda. Cause then there's the question of whether or not to allow someone to decide what to do with there own life.
Does anyone else think Pat would be great in a horror film? "Ok there's the monster. I'm going to fucking stare at it and poke it until it kills me" I also like how 11 parts in and now the comments have given up talking about Pat's random distrust of Catherine when she's helpful.
13:26 Nobody is getting "special preference." They still haven't figured out that WAU is using structure gel to keep everyone alive? And after seeing structure gel bring a rat to life and even bring a friggin motherboard to life, they still don't understand how it worked for the suit?
+Ultimaniac I think he means that guy was a little more intact than the others. A lot of people were straight up gooed into the walls. But I don't think Matt nor Pat looked closely enough at his torso, which was basically all teched out. I mean, he has a fan for a lung.
Couldn't Simon take the brain chip out of his previous copy and keep it safe inside his new suit until they find a better alternative than immediately killing him?
+MrCaneron These games _always_ forbid you from delaying a decision until you have more information. Even if there's in previously implied or established way for you to do that.
Yes! Finally I get to see someone kill Simon 2. Loving this LP more and more. So far, Pat, you have been making all the right choices in my opinion. Even if it is for the wrong reasons. Let's just hope you keep it up. More power to ya, you murderous toilet.
***** Aliens maybe. Survivors, none. At least none that matter. But that's a spoiler. And even if there were any I doubt the first thing they do would be to try and find this base in the middle of an ocean that they probably don't even know exists.
***** The Earth was hit by a comet, dude. The surface is burning and it won't cool down for a long time. Those Chinese up there better hope they have enough food.
I'm surprised Matt didn't make a Steven Universe joke out of Simon's out-of-body experience. "I learned to stay true to myself, by watching myself DIIIIEEEE......"
Okay so, considering the apocalypse conditions right now, is it really so bad to have two Simons? If they were really worried about him being lonely, they could always scan a Catherine to keep him up to speed. It doesn't sound like too bad a plan anyway, just in case things go really south in the Abyss.
+ChronoTwist Are you talking about in general, or Pat specifically? Because Pat specifically I think it's just murder boner. As for scanning Catherine, well, gotta have something to carry her in, and the only options are past the super aggro dumb ass right out the door atm. Quicker to go down the abyss do what's gotta be done, and shimmy right back up real quick IMO. (But that's actually kinda outside the box, never seen someone else think to dupe a Cat-3 or Cat-2 for Simon-2.
Nah, in general. I guess, all I'm saying is that I'm not sure I feel as strongly as Simon about moral issue over having multiple Simon's in existence. I mean, yeah, it's super weird having multiple yous. But considering how the world seems screwed anyway, maybe having more functional people around is an asset. I would be totally down with working with my own clone if I could die at any moment in a deep sea base. And I think Catherine was cool with that too.
Is it really that unethical to kill the Old Simon? Old Simon just be trapped in Omicron until eventually that proxy killed him or he started growing cyber-barnacles and become a proxy himself.
+Foul Fagus You're trapped in you body until eventually entropy kills you. So what? It's all ultimately pointless in the end, so enjoy it why it lasts.
+Foul Fagus That's still not your decision to make. Old Simon decides how he wants to live/die, not you. Your assessment of what's worth living and what's not doesn't play a part in this dilemma.
+Yourson Isold I guess. It's like in Bioshock 2 where a guy has mutated into an insane giant sea slug, and audiologs from pre-mutation him beg you to put him out of his misery should you find his mutated self. But then current crazy him begs you not to kill him, and the right choice is to not kill him because he's changed so much as a person that he is no longer the same guy as the guy on the tapes in any meaningful sense. But maybe that was accidental, and Ken Levine was just going for a "killing (named NPC) people is always bad" routine, since the same game counts you as evil if you kill an unrepentant mass-murderer who drowned hundreds of people to avoid facing punishment for kidnapping you, the player character and an 8-year old child and selling them to a shady company for horrible medical experiments. Fuck that dude I have zero problem with killing his ass.
Foul Fagus Your example with the mutated person does apply. The mutated person is already thinking way differently from his human self, so he now wants to live. As for the other point, that's a very different scenario, which is not as clear-cut as this. I can't tell you what would be the right solution here (especially because I haven't played the game).
I hate that they didn't notice that moment I love where the body in the first room is in a different spot than before. I guess that's to be expected though, I mean look who we're talking about here.
Someone need to make a comic, where the guy who went into elevator is like coming out of Omnicron with a briefcase and a tie, notices the elevator is gone, shouts "Oh shit, im late for work !" so he leaps down to the elevator, he sees Simon and he says "Oh shit ! Are you THE Simon !? Im your biggest fan man !" as Simon powers down, he looks at his watch and jumps out of the elevator screaming "It was nice meeting you, but im kinda in a hurry" and Simon wakes up later wondering what the fuck just happend. Please someone with more artistic skills than me (which means anything above 0) make that :D
Catherine's fucking cold for planning on cloning you without your knowledge and just abandoning you in this hopeless place while you sleep. That is straight villainous and I would never be able to forgive her. Simon made his expectations of the transfer clear several times and she let him obliviously step into his doom. Considering how the game ends she was planning on doing this to Simon twice after they came up with this plan
I'm annoyed by the amount of people judging Pat for killing robo Simon. Judge him for what he did to previous characters, but that Simon choice isn't a straight up "No shit you shouldn't kill him" moment. I sure as hell would've made the same choice. What we should be judging them on is how fucking blind they are. They need to turn up the brightness or sit closer to the screen or something if they can't see a huge lever that's literally right in front of them. Still, love this playthrough.
In this episode of Soma, Pat calls everyone the antagonist and at the SAME TIME kills every single person he finds-- while making bullshit predictions! HOW WILL THE NEXT EPISODE BE? TUNE IN NEXT TIME TO FIND OUT! THE ANSWER WILL SHOCK YOU!
5:49 is still my favorite scare in the whole game. near every other enemy has been a slow, lumbering asshole. this guy? nah, this is the Usain Bolt of horrible neo future zombies
It infuriates me that even after Catherine explains to him what happened, he still assumes it's a "coin toss", as if one of them had more information than the other. What infuriates me more is that Catherine just goes along with it just so she can get to the ARK.
30:30 Not jellies, they're sea cucumber things that have transparent bodies and move by springing from small combs lining their bodies. They were previously unnamed, and unclassified. They were named in the last 8 years. They're cute.
As I said in Splattercat's LP, it would have been better for Catherine to give Simon-2 fair warning that they're copying Simon-2 to another body making Simon-3 whereas Simon-2 still exists. But the moral dilemma for me is that Simon would then be reluctant to scan himself and let Catherine take over and make Cath-3 (Cath-2 being Boxed Catherine). That said, if it were me, I'd rather let Simon-2 sleep it out and a message waiting for him letting him decide to commit suicide by either Monster, Immediate Power Drain, Slow Power Drain with the possibility of Simon-2 becoming insane, or go after us and let the Oceanic pressure crush his weak suit..
"Poison the well!" The ghost people say. No, ghost people... we have to hear what our opponents have to say, and address them logically! We can't rely on your ghostly logical fallacies!
