Types, Sources, and Convincing My Spouse It’s Ok to Use Bamboo

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This Q&A is pulled from a collection of questions posed to me by students of my Online Permaculture Design Course (PDC). Learn more with my free four-part Masterclass series, here:
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Question:
In Q&A 21 Geoff talked about the bamboo behind him and said it is an edible species. What is the name of this bamboo? Is it a clumping growth habit? I am interested in including bamboo on my 1 acre site. I'm in Melbourne, Austrailia, do you know where I can source edible bamboo species there? When I mentioned growing bamboo my husband said it is invasive and terrible, how much of a problem is this? Do you have any advice to aid me in this discussion?
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@jhosk Год назад

Had to watch this one a few times to glean all the information I could

@jodiethuy4122 3 года назад

It’s a great video! And great volume of discussion! There should be more videos like this to break the bamboo fear in the gardening community! When someone asked about bamboo, for sure several gardeners jumped “No! It’s very invasive!” and such! This is such a Re-educational video, thank you!

@nessav7258 Месяц назад

We bought a property with large bamboo. It is the clumping variety. They send their roots out a few metres and other plants will not flourish in that space. In a dry period they turn the ground yellow. I lost a magnolia that was planted nearby. We have a particular bamboo that is huge. It is hard to manage and new shoots can grow down then up until the plant is a mass of intertwined stalks. The birds and native rats love to nest in it. Bamboo is a resource though - plant stakes, poles for fencing, firewood starter (especially the dried sheaths on the ground) mulch, cow and rabbit food (leaves), food (shoots)., privacy screen, wind break.

@TheVigilantStewards 4 года назад

Thanks for this video ! I never really hear about financial investments on your channel, I didn't know that such gains were possible in 20 years on a farm. We mostly want a permaculture site to provide our needs as a family, that would be fantastic to be able to also long term profit off of it. Would love to learn more about investment crops... I just love bamboo aesthetically

@john3_14-17 3 года назад

There are some people in the eastern US who grow black walnut (Juglans nigra) as an investment plant. Around here black walnuts are a pioneer species and they sprout up everywhere, so you can get them for pretty cheap.

@TheBarefootedGardener 4 года назад

Great video, Geoff! I’m in USDA zone 6a. I grow runners to get bigger stems in my climate, and Fargesia clumpers for shorter natural, evergreen hedges. As you can tell I like bamboo!

@TheBarefootedGardener 4 года назад

TheMatron'sMilitia Absolutely. If you’re worried about severe cold, using leaf mulch and making a small compost pile on top of their rhizomes works wonderfully. I use cold hardy clumpers like Fargesia rufa for sunnier areas, fargesia nitida for full shade. The running bamboos (In cold climates) are more useful because they get taller, and therefore bigger stems. But you need to give them at least half a day of sun (check out my video on how to control running bamboo) Phyllostachys aureosulcata (and cultivars), Phyllostachys bissetii, & Phyllostachys nuda.Other genera spread a lot faster, like Semiarundinaria.

@rossr6616 Год назад

In our arid coastal area bamboo requires some supplemental water to be thrive, so easy to temper through controlled drought

@11219tt 4 года назад

Really solid advice about bamboo

@jedmanson 2 года назад

Thanks Geoff.

@byrdhemenway1213 2 года назад

Love all ur work

@LaHortetadeBussy 4 года назад

Thanks men impresionant bambu.

@Branjensen27 4 года назад

Thank you.

@sundancer442 4 года назад

Bamboo shoots in my area from early spring. Sth. Australian desert, Coober Pedy.

@vk4vsp 4 года назад

We have a nice clump of bamboo growing very well in a cut-down 200L plastic barrel. We use the poles for trellises, they're about an inch thick and probably 4 or 5 metres in length. I forget what variety it is, but I'm pretty sure we bought it online from Daley's in Kyogle.

@justgivemethetruth 4 года назад

what do you fertilize with?

@vk4vsp 4 года назад

@@justgivemethetruth Worm juice, water from the aquaponics, or Powerfeed. It tends to self mulch and doesn't really need much fertilising, in fact it doesn't even get watered that much. Oh and the cockatoos like to land on it, so there's probably a fair bit of cocky poo in it too.

@alliecatnz 4 года назад

We’ve got a running sweet edible type on 3/4 of an acre... heaving duty root barrier around it the simple mow over or kick the shoots or eat the shoots that pop up where you don’t want them, probably would of preferred the clumping type but what I wanted wasn’t available.

@joetruscott1225 4 года назад

great video as usual! What tips do you have on controlling the spread of running types? We have taken on a property with bamboo running along two sides and steadily encroaching inwards. Installing a barrier would involve finances that we don't have currently and I'm wondering if there are any other ways...

@callumoliver3268 4 года назад

Geoff, thanks for the video. For something that grows so fast it’s interesting to see how valuable it can be. Should most bamboo species be harvested every 4 years or will it differ from variety and climate? Thanks! Callum from Brisbane, QLD

@Grown-in-Tyrone 4 года назад

Brilliant! I have a very small clump of Mosa bamboo I grew from seed some years ago. It might take some time to get to full height which is apparently 90metres...but maybe not in Northern Ireland eh! :-)

@futurecaredesign 4 года назад

90 meter is very very tall for a bamboo. Most redwoods don't even grow that tall... Can you tell us your source?

@Grown-in-Tyrone 4 года назад

@@futurecaredesign hi, you're quite right, it's a long time since I planted it and my memory was not quite accurate! It was 90 feet not metres. Thankfully I kept the instruction sheet. Got the name slightly wrong too 😟. It's Moso, Phyllostachys edulis/pubescens apparently. It says it may grow to 3m in cooler areas but it's still only 1.5m. However, bonus is it's hardy to almost -20°c so maybe one day...

@Grown-in-Tyrone 4 года назад

Oh, and I bought the seeds from eBay! You did ask the source 😁

@bramvanoverbeeke8881 4 года назад

@@Grown-in-Tyrone Thank you for your response Lynne. That is a very nice bamboo, I didn't know about it.

@bramvanoverbeeke8881 4 года назад

Looking it up I do want to mention this is a "runner" type bamboo.

@daisy9910 4 года назад

Hi Geoff, I live in the upper Blue Mountains NSW. Can bamboo be grown in a small trough as a screen in full sun? It would have to put up with the occasional snow fall. Planning on having it by the front door at this stage. Appreciate your advice.

@vivinpan 4 года назад

Dear, dear Sir, Thank you again for being so knowledgable and generous with your knowledge. About the Bamboo though, if it's so easy to grow then why is it so expensive? I live in a zone 7-9 in Greece. Is there somewhere you can suggest I look to find out what kind of bamboo grows best here. I just decided to become a millionaire.

@TheRahsoft 4 года назад

"About the Bamboo though, if it's so easy to grow then why is it so expensive?" Maybe because a) it only grows for one quarter of a yearb) its takes a while to reach maturity for harvesting( you saw the example of an 18 year old bamboo in the videoc) as geoff says you cut only 4 per clump each year, so for normal commercial purposes that would be a slow return on investment. I would also imagine you have to ensure its spaced out properly or you won't get straight canes( look at the garden centre types which are wonky)

@bramvanoverbeeke8881 4 года назад

Hi there, I live in Greece too and have researched this plant extensively for our homestead near Athens. From what I have understood it will be more difficult to grow here because we have the classic Mediterranean climate of bone-dry summers and wet winters. Bamboo needs access to water during summer, because that is when it does the growing bit. Where are you located?

@sundancer442 4 года назад

Just like Rhubarb , you only buy it once, so people charge a lot for it. :)

@vivinpan 4 года назад

@@bramvanoverbeeke8881 Hello! I'm in Thessaly. At the foothills of Olymbos. I wonder, are the κσλαμιές you see around rivers, bamboo?

@vivinpan 4 года назад

@@sundancer442 Ok - that makes sense.

@AvaHay143 3 года назад

Bamboo all around here in Rp tropics :)

@b_uppy 4 года назад

Most people are ignorant of bamboo. Love bamboo. It is the ignorance that perpetuates the abhorrence. Thank you for this.

@lerouxeverson925 4 года назад

Would bamboo do well as a windbreak in a subtropical climate with frequent droughts? It will be watered during the drought, but will it thrive or just survive?

@Janderra 4 года назад

where do you sell bamboo?

@billybunter6943 Год назад

How do you think this verity would go in FNQ, up on tablelands, past forest wet side we are on savant I'm 21months into building my food forest where theu said it could not be done, I want bamboo for shading... So I've soil on sandy layer on clay.. depth variations around the property, forest clay at about 2foot down all other fruit trees are doing great but I need to creat fast shade for next yr... I can make this yr work but after summer I'm looking at planning around 100 more tree from bamboo to date palms I think my undergrowth is starting to work for itself after 12 Mon just concentrated on protecting the dirt... An it was bad.... completely exposed to the sun... Anyway will this verity grow up here Mt Garnett far North Queensland

@justgivemethetruth 4 года назад

How does one leverage being good at basic mathematics to growing bamboo? ;-) It sure looks really cool.

@Timmy2951 4 года назад

Count to 16

@peterellis5626 4 года назад

Just need some that can take minus 18F ;) that's what we hit last winter her in SW Michigan.

@danam2584 4 года назад

I have seen bamboo that might work. www.bamboogarden.com/cold%20hardy%20bamboo.html

@xyzsame4081 3 года назад

Michigan _might_ not be ideal ;) however if you follow the ideas of Sepp Holzer growing it near a building or setting up a mound as "wall" and growing the bamboo in front of it could help. if it is protected from the North. In slightly milder climates one could risk it, the worst outcome is likely to take down the stems, sell them, and start over. If a fir or pine is killed or stumped by wet snow and ice rain, or gets attacked by draught and / or beetle, or felled by a storm, that's a damage after 30, 50, 70 years growth. With bamboo it is 5 years that you lose.

@peterellis5626 3 года назад

I have a contact an hour south of our site growing bamboo. It's not actually a stretch For the Right Variety. The one he is growing is a top edible variety. It can almost certainly survive our site. But I might be greedy, I want a timber variety as well :)

@rehoboth_farm 4 года назад

When should you plant bamboo? I have a heavy clay soil and live in zone 8a.

@TheBarefootedGardener 4 года назад

Rehoboth Farm Spring is best. But it’ll be okay at any time in 8a. Try bamboo garden or Wilson Bro’s.

@rehoboth_farm 4 года назад

@@TheBarefootedGardener Thanks.

@TheVigilantStewards 4 года назад

Hah sounds like where I live at in North Texas, 8A and heavy clay

@rehoboth_farm 4 года назад

@@TheVigilantStewards Yep. That's where I am.

@TheVigilantStewards 4 года назад

@@rehoboth_farm Oh haha... do you have anything we could come visit? I live in Fort Worth , feel free to PM me. I think I found your website rehobothranch

@solfeinberg437 4 года назад

Geoff, how is it worth $2,000? Do you dig up roots and sell them in a pot for $80 a shot? Or cut the culms as timber? Or dig the whole damn thing up with some excavating equipment and transplant it? I don't understand.

@dukereg 4 года назад

Does anyone know whether bamboo will push up nearby pavers and concrete as it grows?

@TheBarefootedGardener 4 года назад

dukereg Potentially- if the concrete was done right, likely not. Use a bamboo barrier at the edge on 3 sides of the area so it won’t get rootbound, which makes new shoots progressively smaller.

@dukereg 4 года назад

@@TheBarefootedGardener thanks for the tip :-)

@dukereg 4 года назад

@@davidsmith9189 good to know thanks!

@justgivemethetruth 4 года назад

@@TheBarefootedGardener what is a bamboo barrier?

@jameskniskern2261 4 года назад

@@justgivemethetruth A rhizome barrier is about 50 to 60 cm deep either sheet metal or heavy plastic with no holes. Prevents bamboo rhizomes from going in a direction you don't want it to, like a neighbors garden, etc. A bit of a trench is dug, the barrier installed, then the bamboo is planted. Leave a 10 cm of barrier above soil, so if any rhizomes go over the top, you can prune them off. Good luck.

@kiswahilikitukuzwe2547 4 года назад

Dear Sir, do they grow in any type of soil for example in semi arid regions? In other words are they good for fighting desertification?

@futurecaredesign 4 года назад

There are many plant species suited for regenerating a desertified region. Bamboo is not one of them. What sort of functions are you looking for?

@joebobjenkins7837 4 года назад

100k worth of bamboo? How? How would you sell it?

@dougveganparadisebuilder5808 4 года назад

I would like to know as well!

@przybyla420 3 года назад

$100,000 of bamboo...is that at wholesale prices?

@joshdoyle182 2 года назад

The hourly wages of bamboo farming without middle men work out to be bonkers.

@anthonysinclair5721 3 года назад

Note to self : move to Oz and become a bamboo millionaire! lol 😎

@przybyla420 3 года назад

Other than fuel, fodder, mulch and fine crafts, bamboo is best for low-investment (easy to replace) outdoor constructions, poles for use in the garden, and indoors. Because it rots quite quickly exposed to water continually, or insects.