Tyreek left the Chiefs and they immediately won 2 Super Bowls it’s that simple. Every GM in the league would start their franchise w Mahomes over Tyreek rn
Of course but relative to their position s it's tyreke. Qbs are more valuable but tyreke is part of the reason Patrick is Patrick. He's like training wheels for quarter backs. There are a lot of coverages you just can play against tyreke so based on where he's at on the field you can tell what a team is running. I'm a Patrick is the goat guy so this is no shade on him but hill he "rekes" havoc on defensive meetings
@@macalloway1no😂😂 Kelce is the reason Mahomes is Mahomes, your TE is your safety wheels for your QB. At QBs in the NFL Patrick is 1 undisputed. There a few other WRs that could be WR1.. Jefferson..chase WR is debatable QB1 right now is not
@@macalloway1we wouldn’t even consider tyreek an Elite WR if not for Mahomes.Tyreek was a gadget guy he made his first pro-bowl as a return specialist before Patty elevated him to Elite WR status. Not taking nothing away from tyreek he like that but Pat got a MVP, 2 SB and 2 SB MVP as soon as he left.
Tbf. Reek won a ring too. They share won and Reek 100% did his part, maximizing his abilities consistently to this day. Other than Jerry Rice & post season Larry Fitz - Tyreek is probably the most clutch receiver of all time.One could argue he’s the Mahomes of WR. Moss never won a ring, so removing Moss from the equation, who can you honestly say revolutionized WR, other than Hill. Other than QB. He is the best player in terms of his football versatility - athletically and technique wise - he can affect the game.
@@youngblood4127 Hill is absolutly the best weapon in the NFL, but Hill is not clutch when it counts... his small hands in the cold are an issue and teams learned from the Patriots to just double Hill in the playoffs and he disappears. If you think I'm wrong just watch the 2018 and 2021 AFC Championship games and then the 2020 Superbowl where Hill drops two TD's that hit his facemask. Hill lacks clutch, but he's an amazing weapon for sure. Just keeping it 100 here.
@@stephonhopkins4569more than just yards not only that he didn’t even pass jerry rice in a single season for receiving yards this is a dumb comparison anyways they’re both number one for their position you could argue there’s a better wr than tyreek but you can’t say there’s a better qb rn than patrick
The end goal for all players is to win the championship. He wanted out of KC, which was his choice, but it was clearly the wrong one from a legacy standpoint. All Miami can do is make him super rich. Big deal. Mahomes will be super rich with probably 4-5 rings.
Reek smoking dope... He literally just said at the start of the season during voting that pat is number 1... His tune changed real fast once he was voted number 1
The Ravens would completely disagree and just about half the others! Yes Patty is the best QB! But to have your QB that’s not only good at passing. But can literally rush for over 100 as well! It makes the game planning a headache!! A legit duel threat! Not a Mike Vick type! And Vick did have a decent deep ball! But Lamar accuracy has gotten better every year! Dude can literally out throw almost everyone but Patty and Burrow! Then turn around and be a top 10 rusher in the league! Dude is a D coordinator nightmare!!
@@omgrashad6956and how well has that worked out for em Lamar literally loses to mahomes every time they play 😂😂😂 can’t even win a superbowl so yes mahomes is the best quarterback and player in the nfl
@@omgrashad6956they would take mahomes bro mahomes has a better arm which is more important than legs buddy also you’ve seen mahomes run right ? He might not be fast but he’s one of the most effective runners in the league he’s won games with his legs before lol
@@plugcap2604 mahomes is more valuable to his team than AD was to his team. . Cooper kupp was the best player on the rams that year. Mahomes has always been the best player on his.
What an ignorant and forced conversation that was. The idea that people are still trying this hard to diminish Mahomes' ability is just weird at this point. His whole thing is that he has a rocket arm, eyes in the back of his head, and almost always makes the right QB decision under pressure.
@Profecktion2K For sure, I don't know the numbers, but he's got to be up there on any list. I can't think of a player that had this immediate impact right out of the gate and has sustained it. His down years are career seasons for most QB's.
@@kennethghee7436 If he is ever picked less than first place or if there is a debate that exists, it's diminishing. Flowers are for normals. It was even mentioned that "it's not even close" - just dumb. Maybe you should watch it again. Once was enough for me, thanks.
@@JetForceFive the fact that you think anybody choosing a player over him is diminishing him says everything I need to know about you.. and you sound like a mahomes fan boy..
“You can’t make someone, that’s not the quarterback, the best player in the NFL” Apparently Lawrence Taylor never suited up, crazy Mandela effect there
Pat Mahomes is becoming Tom Brady not just on the field but off of it with how media is starting to downplay his status next to other guys If we use this mf Matt's logic then Kordell Stewart at one point was the best physical talent in the NFL 🤣🤣🤣 see how stupid that sounds
You can argue mahomes is a better player then hill. Fine. But to make a blanket statement that being a QB automatically makes you better player then any other position is lazy and has no merit
Most of these commentators are simply incompetent. There is Patrick Mahomes, and then there are others. Winning above losing. Ask any NFL GM, who they would rather have before above all else right now- 32-32 will say Mahomes.
I mean if you watch the preseason game you can tell he's already better then 1/2 the quarterbacks in the league and he's hasn't even played in his first real game yet.
@@scottdickson1473 I agree. I just think there could be an argument saying that Lamar this past year had a better season because he went to the afc championship and won mvp could be considered “better” than the year when mahomes didn’t win mvp and lost in the afc championship game. That’s why I phrased it that way.
As a life long chiefs fan the first chicks argument that Mahomes is better because he has the ball more often is not logical. He doesn’t play QB so by her own argument he would never be able to be the best I don’t think that’s fair when grading players. I’m team Mahomes but I do believe Hill has a strong case to be number 1 just I don’t agree with her logic and conclusions.
Mahomes is hands down the best player on the field period! Lamar maybe a better athlete than Mahomes only because he’s faster but Mahomes plays the qb position better than qb.
"Consistency" is what Tyreek said was why he is better than Mahomes, yet Mahomes has continued to win without him while Hill is getting punked in the playoffs.
Hill last 2 years 2X all pro 2X pro bowl yards leader Co-Td leader. 2 1700+ yards per game leader 🔥🔥🔥 Mahomes Last 2 years All pro MVP 2 pro bowl yards leader 5200+ td leader yards per game leader🔥🔥. Rings are a team achievement so we’re only talking about the individual numbers and individual accolades. Tyreek Hill has a great case for being better than Patrick. Patrick just had a down year and Tyreek had a better year than he had in 2022. Yes you can argue Patrick won the MVP but then I will argue. When was the last time a receiver won mvp? played one MVP.
If there wasn't a QB at Mahomes level , I can see Reeks argument. But Pat exists, and he's been dominant. The question "Who would you start your team with?" is valid . If you don't look through a fans lens, it's an easy answer.
Yu would start any team with a QB.. doesn’t make that QB the best player.. ie* the 49ers.. starting a team Yur taking purdy first but he’s not better than Trent Williams..
@jakewhite215 any GM would agree. In fact , if foresite is available , and your owner knew you didn't pick Mahomes , you'd be fired. Lamar is great , but true greatness happens in the post-season. Before Brady came around , most people looked at Montana as the G.O.A.T.. Montana still believes Marino was better , but if you don't win in the post-season , it doesn't matter.
It’s not about who touch the ball the most it’s about what you do when you get it. What make Tyreek top tier is anytime he touch the ball he’s a threat to score. He can run a slant, run the ball, line up in the slot, lineup at X or Z, kick return, punt return, he can pick up a fumble, etc.
I don’t think the lady saying tyreek hill can’t be the best player in the league because he can’t get the ball without a quarterback makes much sense. Does she realize in order for a quarterback to be the best player they have to actually throw it to somebody?? How could a quarterback be the best player without WR? I think wr and qb are dependent on each other, you can’t have one without the other.
I agree with that one lady’s take that it’s Mahomes but her reasoning is off. A QB touches the ball most? A pass rusher or RB can definitely be the best player and we’ve seen it before on multiple occasions. One could argue, and it’s a stretch, that a CB could be the best player because an all time great can shut down an entire
Dioen Sanders is the best corner cornerback in NFL history. He has never been considered the best player in any season when he has played. Same thing with Jerry Rice. Same thing with Barry Sanders. When I gear best player, I'm not thinking they mean a specific year.
Certain things don’t need to be said..show it with your actions, Mr Hill you f’d up with that one. Worry about your team and qb. I think he’s salty about not being in Kc anymore. Now him and the dolphins have to back it up which adds more pressure, seeing you can make it to the playoffs but nothing more because the dolphins can’t play in the cold 🥶 and you have to beat pat to make it to the Super Bowl. I think the players in the league are sick and tired of him(Pat) but he’s that guy and has the rings and resume to show it!
QBs touch the football each play.....but they hand it off 40% of the time and disappear from the play. Another 20% are probably thrown at or 5 yards from scrimmage. Touching it every play doesn't mean much.
@@deehollywood6013 yeah the qb position is blown out of proportion imo cus they make the argument that without a good qb the rest of an offense struggles but you can flip it and say the exact same thing its a team sport to make one position seemingly the be all end all positions is stupid
Patrick MaHomes = 3 Super Bowl rings. Tyreek Hill = 1 Super Bowl ring. The 'Andy Reid as coach for the best QB, Patrick MaHomes' argument definitely has value. For me, the best player in the NFL is definitely Patrick MaHomes, and I'm not even a Chiefs fan. He should be number one.
I never understood the “best player in the nfl” argument. It’s not like basketball where everyone doing the same thing. How can you say a rb is better than a linebacker??? It’s just stupid to me
When women that has never played football tell you why a WR can't be the best player in football.... even tho he was voted #1 by the people that plays the game
I remember when Marshall Faulk was considered the best player in the NFL. I remember Ladainian Tomlinson being considered the best. I recall the same thing being said about Urlacher, later J.J. Watt. I disagree that the best player has to be a QB.
That guy Matt kept combining athleticism with best player for his argument. The fact is that neither Lamar nor Tyreek have lead their teams to a Super Bowl!! #gocolts!!
The reason there is pressure is too rookie qb is they coming in with big contracts. More money more pressure. If you want to be a late pick then there will be no pressure but if teams are paying you a lot of money off the bat, they will expect you to come in and make instant difference
