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UAD vs UADx Plugins Shootout | Null Test + CPU comparison 

Seawell Studios
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@Russkull888
@Russkull888 Год назад
This answered so many of the specific questions I had. Thanks!
@SeawellStudios
@SeawellStudios Год назад
I'm so glad the video was helpful! Thank you for taking the time to let me know.
@AdamGotheridge
@AdamGotheridge 2 года назад
Great job! Really promising news on the plugs.
@SeawellStudios
@SeawellStudios 2 года назад
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
@eliashowe7115
@eliashowe7115 2 года назад
Thank you for your videos! I'm so glad they've finally allowed to run their plugins natively because their DSPs were pretty weak by the todays standards. I hope they won't stop there and made all of their products available in this format because some of them are still missing.
@SeawellStudios
@SeawellStudios 2 года назад
Thanks for checking out the video! I'm so glad they did this instead of new, more powerful DSP based satellites!
@stephenvonheyking
@stephenvonheyking 2 года назад
Great video man! Crazy how many uad plug-ins the computer can handle. I will be using a whole lot more uad in my sessions now!
@SeawellStudios
@SeawellStudios 2 года назад
Thanks bro! It is such a game changer!
@relayrelaymusic
@relayrelaymusic Год назад
Hey Josh! Great video, I was wondering about this since we use UA stuff!✌️
@SeawellStudios
@SeawellStudios Год назад
Hey guys! It's so great to see you on here :) Thanks for checking out my channel!
@BobbyCrane
@BobbyCrane Год назад
Wow!! Thank you. I fell for the hype that the UAD still sounded better than UADx. I should’ve tried that null test, wow!
@SeawellStudios
@SeawellStudios Год назад
The only area where I could see any difference existing is the unison versions that would work in conjunction with UAD interface preamps. Other than that, all of the plug-ins in this video as well as any added in the future that aren't unison....I think it's safe to say they will be exactly the same 👍🏼. Thanks for checking out the video, I hope you'll find more content here that you'll enjoy.
@peterwaterman2007
@peterwaterman2007 2 года назад
Hey Josh, thanks for this video. Just wanted to be that guy that questions the process, sorry about this in advance, I'm just a bit confused! I have seen other videos where UAD native vs DSP cancel out and I've also seen other videos where they do not. As you've got the EQ phase reverse button on Insert A before the UAD plugin, are you not perfectly nulling before the UAD native vs DSP plugin gets hit on insert B? Even if they were treating the audio differently, wouldn't it already be nulled to nothing and therefore make no difference after Insert A?
@SeawellStudios
@SeawellStudios 2 года назад
No apology needed, I appreciate you raising the question! I may do a follow up, but until then just know that I tested it a good bit beyond what was shown in the video. For this particular example, even when the polarity is flipped on the MDW EQ ahead of the LA-2A, if you change any setting on one of the LA-2As, it no longer nulls. So, in other words signal is passing through the whole chain at all times. I'm really curious to see an example of them not nulling, when you get a chance send me a link if there are examples out there I can check out. Thanks!
@rodrigocapra
@rodrigocapra Год назад
@@SeawellStudios not sure if this could be the case....but here is a link where they don't cancel each other ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6a9MBaITdrI.html
@SeawellStudios
@SeawellStudios Год назад
@@rodrigocapra thanks for the link! Unfortunately I don't have a UA interface where I could test out unison. All I can speak to is using them as plug ins in a mix like I did in this video. Thankfully they do completely null when running native in Pro Tools vs UA DSP on a satellite. The unison thing is interesting though and I think those that have UA hardware should definitely further explore it to try and figure out what is going on!
@notdaones
@notdaones Год назад
The units are obviously different colors between plug in formats so that you can tell the difference between them when they're both pinned side by side ?
@SeawellStudios
@SeawellStudios Год назад
The color of the GUIs is slightly different.
@JJmastering
@JJmastering 7 месяцев назад
In fact, when I did such a test with several plugins (UAD DSP and Native) and reversed the phase, the sound almost disappears, but still remains a little at -60dB, which is hard to hear. When analyzed in Wavelab, there is a small difference in the DC offset, and when I zoom in a lot on the graph, there are small differences again. To the ear, the sound is almost the same, but technically it is not absolutely.
@franciscogomez5341
@franciscogomez5341 6 месяцев назад
You can hear it when he switches the polarity. But he talks over the part where we’re trying to listen too. I agree, the null is not absolute.
@SMEL
@SMEL 8 месяцев назад
I think the extra sauce is when you go through the console... but I do hear a difference here, however it's all about how you work it!!!
@SeawellStudios
@SeawellStudios 8 месяцев назад
There's no difference here, they null completely. The Unison version used through UAD console are a bit different though. So any time you’re using a native UA plugin as a mix insert in your DAW it should be 100% identical to the DSP version.
@ScantlessBeatz
@ScantlessBeatz 2 года назад
do you find yourself using more plugins then hardware? Only hardware I own is a apollo twin and presonus faderport 16.
@SeawellStudios
@SeawellStudios 2 года назад
I greatly prefer hardware in a lot of areas but still use a lot of plug ins. I think for anyone interested in hardware, you have to demo it in your space and see if it’s the right fit for you. My only recommendation is never go into debt for hardware. Purchase what you can, as you can afford it. You can make amazing music without hardware for sure! All analog, hybrid(like me), or all in the box…it all works. Just find the best fit for you and how you like to work 👊🏼
@alexanderaseffa
@alexanderaseffa 2 года назад
Hi Josh, have you tried the Neve 1073 with Unison and the Native if they cancel out? I would think DSP Unison would be the advantage over Native.
@SeawellStudios
@SeawellStudios 2 года назад
Hi Alex. Thanks for checking out the video! I haven’t checked out the 1073 yet but based off of this test I would expect them to null 👍🏻
@alexanderaseffa
@alexanderaseffa 2 года назад
@@SeawellStudios Hi Josh, but Unison is emulation of the preamp impedance matching coloration that is not available on the native.
@SeawellStudios
@SeawellStudios 2 года назад
@@alexanderaseffa Oh ok, thanks for the info! I don't have a UA interface to test it out unfortunately. I only have the UAD-2 Quad Satellite. I'd be curious to know though so if you have a chance to test it out, let me know!
@perhoier2881
@perhoier2881 2 года назад
@@alexanderaseffa. The Unison system is related to the Preamp inside the Apollo audio interfaces, and utilized (only) via the Unison plugin slot in the Console app (or in UA's LUNA DAW.), and it affects the preamp inside the Apollo, switching it's gain stage and the input impedance on Mic/Inst signals. Using the given plugin like the 1073 in a DAW (or outside the unison slots in Console/LUNA), does not interact with the hardware, thus working all digital as a regular plugin, whether it's loaded as UAD or UADx (native). So it should perfectly null. 😀
@alexanderaseffa
@alexanderaseffa 2 года назад
@@perhoier2881 agree, I was making the point that the 1073 type of unison plugins have advantage when dropped in the unison console that could not be achieved natively. Outside the unison slot (within DAW) I expect it to null with native.
@ArguZ72
@ArguZ72 9 месяцев назад
Once you are after the recording stage DSP or native are the same, yes. But unison , the impedance nonlinearity and the pre-amp choice plus the almost zero latency during tracking makes all the difference. That is why Apollo X matters...still.
@SeawellStudios
@SeawellStudios 9 месяцев назад
I found unison to be very overrated honestly. Not much difference between those versions and their native or DSP counterparts. Definitely didn’t match the hype.
@edelinois
@edelinois 2 года назад
The latest update caused my UADx plug-ins to be be blurry...What's going on?
@SeawellStudios
@SeawellStudios 2 года назад
Sorry to hear that! I haven't updated yet. Hopefully they'll sort that out quickly.
@notdaones
@notdaones Год назад
Subjective test. Studer tape isn't doing as much as API vision for example. You would learn much more from experimenting using plug ins that are much more resource heavy (as with any CPU stress test. ) apologies If Tape was the only available plug in at the time.
@SeawellStudios
@SeawellStudios Год назад
How is this a bad test? There were very few Native versions available when they first came out so I took what was available and compared it to the DSP versions just to make sure they nulled. I don't own the API vision plug-in so that's why it wasn't included.
@notdaones
@notdaones Год назад
@Seawell Studios im just saying. Not a bad test... just not typical. For the record - on a AMD 5800X, 36gb of ram... studer tape 256 instances at 192k- yielded 60 percent usage. Api vision 120 instances at 96 k yielded- 60 % usage. At 192k 89 percent usage. I didn't attempt Studer tape at 96k.
@notdaones
@notdaones Год назад
To your greater point- the native UAD plug ins are EXTREMELY well optimized. There is no audible differece(though it would seem that , based on other tests - they are up sampled to 96k) - noone will ever be willing to buy the hardware necessary to run the appollo variants in this magnitude. Quad sharcs max out at 14 api vision modules.
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