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Don't sugar coat it! It'll still taste awful. I've played with Mate in other distro's and I love it, but Ubuntu based stuff just lacks the quality control. They got too much bling and forget the basics... It still needs to work!
+DasGregor Yes true but as long those little things which is to me is not a big deal gets fixed over time then not going to judge the whole OS experience on it as there is more important things to me when it comes to an OS like I do not know stability, flexibility, choice, and security :)
I used 14.10 and 15.04 back in the day and this video pretty much sums up all the problems I had with it. Compiz and the update manager gave me utter hell. Ubuntu's software updater is bad enough when it isn't crashing. Nice little desktop and community though. (mate tweak is legendary) I'd be curious to test drive 17.10 on the new rig here, but I don't have an SSD to sacrifice. Buddy of mine seems to be getting by just fine with it. Peppermint 8's been 'dreamy though, so I'm not tanking it :^)
I loved this distro for about a day and then it was one little bug after another that I noticed. It's too bad to, they have some really good things going. .
+Joseph Dickson I do it is on the top of my list alongside security, and flexibility and choice and freedom and open source community and support form the developers of the OS those things are more important then some minor things that is not a big deal to me as long they get fix along the way just like any other distro out there plus there is no perfect OS just one works for you and you can bear it flaws that all :)
Finally... someone who pronounces "MATE" and "UBUNTU" right... MATE is a bit hard if you haven't heard it said before... but I guess few people have heard a South African say "Ubuntu"...... -_-
Lol. I installed this in VirtualBox on my desktop running elementary OS Freya. I had a lot of the same issues. It's sad that Ubuntu releases this type of shit so often. I was really looking forward to this specific Ubuntu release because the last time I enjoyed Ubuntu was in the 10.04 days. This isn't ready for prime time yet. I'd advise people to wait six months or for the first point release to install it. I know eOS is based off of Ubuntu but the one nice thing about their painfully long beta process is a lot of the bugs in the Ubuntu base get sorted out in the meantime ;)
I gave this one another try because I REALLY, REALLY want to like this distro. After a few days and a few updates all the bugs seem to have gone away. Just to be sure I didn't disable apport error messages. I don't even get them anymore. Nice. It looks like there's another official Ubuntu spin besides Xubuntu that might end up being pretty stable and reliable. I've tried them all (except for Lubuntu so I can't comment on that one) and they all have had stability issues. Gonna install this on my eOS machine. I'll take the Mate over Pantheon any day :)
I must admit even though I like this distro and have installed it, I have had some issues like the panel not appearing on 1st live run, now Installed Firefox crashes a lot, sound on RU-vid doesn't work, but does elsewhere. Now using after a few days, I want to like it. but I'm finding also that it's buggy, Laggy, for a LTS. Martin and team need to get it even more stable. and it's 3 years work?
Yeah I ended up going back to 14.04 after trying out 16.04. My problems did seem to start when I installed Mate as well. It was using 99 % of the CPU for window management. Logging into Kubuntu didn't help, similar problems with Gnome. I would be in Kubuntu and get kicked back to a Gnome desktop for no apparent reason. I really couldn't sort the problems because they were so many and so bizarre. I might just stick with 14.04 until I have to upgrade.
Yeah I thought this was going to better as well. My Firefox looks like I am in safe mode when I run its huge. I did not change it at all. Probably will just reinstall it. It is a little wonky I don't know if I care for it to much.
Have you tried out the latest FreeBSD? Edit: I bet it would be pretty easy to get a nice KDE desktop on that. They have the choice of binary or source packages (as I'm sure you already know)
LinuxMint and Mate developers have been together since almost the start of Mate. It's now got pedigree, and has developed it's own universal style, community, and stability. I hope Mint never screws that up. -unlike Ubumtu. Ubumtu comes along and is still trying to grab the Limelight from LinuxMint. Ubumtu Mate 16.04 LTS a big FAIL surprise, surprise, ...., they should be embarrassed, but ya nevermind. *Just stick with the Original Mate it's called LinuxMint. !*
Kaddy... I have never tried to install multiple apps at once with the Software Boutique though I did suggest to the dev a Magiea-like way of doing it with a checkbox near each app, somewhere .... then a button somewhere "batch install" for all the programs you selected. He said he MAY look into that, though he is working on accelerating stuff on the pi2 edition first right now. As I am typing this I thought of something ... in SOME cases, hitting "install" first adds a PPA for a particular app ... I am thinking what MAY be happening for you is that when you hit "install" a few times, it's trying to use MULTIPLE CLI installs at once ... the same idea of you having two CLI tabs and when you would "sudo apt-get install program2" when "sudo apt-get install program1" is still running .... on the " ... program2 tab" it will give you an error that the package manager/installer/whatever is locked. That may be what is coughing up, in my opinion.
+Xmetal aptd crashing is very likely to do with trying to install multiple apps at once. I find it ridiculous that a user would be expected to sit there and wait for 1 app to install before clicking "install" on the next and so on.... Mint introduced multi installing into their software center a long time ago. Perhaps they should ask them how it's done and then implement it into their own work. Afterall... both use aptd.
I love Ubuntu Mate 16.04 (or any version for that matter) though I have had two main issues ... Everytime I enable Compiz, things go all werid on me ... if I use any of the other choices in Mate-Tweak it's all OK ... The other issue is Chromium constantly crashing on my Ubuntu Mate 16.04 Pi2 (the pi2 version is STILL in beta) install, only ------ And by the way you can install the welcome screen on ANY of the flavors (I have tried) with "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-mate-welcome"
+tostoday Same for me no issues at all everything runs as it should now it that because I do not do a lot of messing around too much like most people or maybe I am just an average user who does not not do a lot setup it and forget it and start using the damm computer for tasks I do not know but it must be something LOL :)
Hey, could you make a video where you show how installing gentoo the right way cause the gentoo page is outdated and I've got many issues building the kernel and with portage. I tried it a couple of times but I very new in gentoo so I have many problems. (Srry for my english xD)
+Jupiter Crafter The information in the Gentoo handbook is perfect. You need to read it carefully. No video can replace doing it the old fashioned way.
+Linux4UnMe very odd then because for me it works perfectly so it might be Hardware related. hard to tell really as my experience at least with this version of Ubuntu has actually been pretty decent if not perfect
That's what I did, and Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 works fine... Can't believe though upgrades are for once more stable than fresh installs, but that could just be my choice of Ubuntu flavor.
Ubuntu's release qualities are like sinus graphs; but not normal ones. Those with 5 bottoms and one top. And it's dragging down every remaster with it. Worst of all is the installer. Ubiquity sucks. It does. I can almost swear that I installed Ubuntu using debian installer once and it was more stable than normal installation.
Martin Zeltin Then it either comes down to the version of compiz you were using on Mint or the version of the video driver that comes on Mint. The Mint guys didn't do anything to make compiz work "better" for you.
+Linux4UnMe Did you not read @Martin's post? Obviously he was able to use the proper stable versions within Linux Mint for Compiz to work. -unlike Ubumtu.
+Blade RunnerUP Eh? He thought that the mint guys are responsible for compiz working on his machine where as it didn't work on ubuntu mate. I'm saying that the mint guys didn't do anything and that it's not the ubuntu mate guy's fault that compiz didn't work for him and that it would come down to the compiz version or driver version that works better on his machine on mint. Nothing the actual mint guys have done. o_0
