UGREEN NAS - 1 Month Later - BACK or BAIL on this Kickstarter NAS? 

Glad you liked it. I've missed doing these. Been giving the YT panel vids a miss die to being too busy this year. I'll get more slated in soon, as they are fun + good gmto get diverse opinions

@@nascompares I absolutely think that these videos are awesome. I think conversation was spot on and provided great feedback on the product.

Sure I don't use much syn or Asus on the web or cloud , I keep every thing local and do all the updates Still thinking of getting 2x 6 bay But I want to do 24tb but heard bad thing on ironwolf pro maybe bad Vendor , I never used seagate in 25 yrs perhaps wait til wd red pro 24tb comes down in price from 570 to 460??

I'm actually trying to see if I can build my own .exe program into the server environment. That's the game changer

Thanks for watching man. Genuinely appreciate the positivity!

@@nascompares Just a follow up, I notice Ugreen’s product support status page says that product support and maintenance (to include security updates) end after the warranty period. Just in case you cover them in the future it might be worth noting to potential buyers

Thanks man. I mean, I'm crap at taking compliments. So..umm.. *points finger guns* thanks kiddo! *runs off*

Nice and sensible. Like!

Thanks for the kudos bud. Have a banging weekend

Same!

Was going to do that a couple of days before the crowdfunding ends. Tbh I really just want people to know what they are backing here. Good hardware, WiP software. It's alot of money and many people will be committing money to this system that they cannot easily re-spend on something else afterwards of it's not for them. I know you could say that about any solution, but crowdfunding means that they stakes are higher. Hope that makes sense man

I'm going to get the 6 bay and try TrueNAS and probably Proxmox. Maybe some others, but obviously the software doesn't live up to the hardware. I wish it had ECC.

same here from UAE :(

More panels coming, but not on this

They say this is on the roadmap..but it's a big 'maybe' if you ask me!

I debated for DAYS over bleeping that... But decided to keep it in, to set the tone. I.e "off the cuff, our opinions, candid, etc". I hope that came across.

@@nascompares Don't bleep it. I love feeling like I'm in a Guy Ritchie movie when I'm watching my NAS reviews.

Fuckin A on point mate.

Sadly it's not just tech hardware... Games and software arrive half cooked at full price, TV shows are now sold before filming wraps, tickets for shows are sold before production...it really...*as both a consumer and a human*...SUCKS

@@nascomparesand they shouldn’t be allowed

I mean, bugger..that IS a great line. But I would have felt like a bit of a dick afterwards (not sure I know the panel well enough to get away with that). Still 10/10 man

Cheers for the input man. Really appreciate the positive vibes and the perspective. Have an awesome weekend man

Sabrent makes decent DAS. For NAS'es, Synology is still the top especially when it comes to software offerings and functionality. Don't get an Orico DAS. I had one and it corrupted my data after a while. 🥲

you sir, dialed it up to 11...and I respect that

Glad you enjoyed it man

Can you fire me and email on this ( Robbie at NASCompares) and ill get ot measured up for you when I'm at the office Monday. Cheers

Not currently. These TB ports are just for expanded storage drives.

Do you think it would be possible in the "near" future? Are there other NAS's that provide this feature? I ordered this NAS to be part of our future video editing workflow, so I hope it will be added in before the launch 😅

*removes balanced RU-vid'r hat* ... ABSOLUTELY NO WAY they can get a feature like Thunderbolt networking turned around before the proposed early summer release! I will be impressed if they can get this up and running tbh. QNAP achieved it by throwing alot of $ at it, and although QSAN and Promise attempted to market Thunderbolt NAS products - in practice, neither of these solutions ended up as a commercially available device. Even BlackMagic design is working on a NAS system and they cannot/have no included it. If UGREEN achieve this, I will be F-ing STUNNED. *puts YT hat back on* That said, never say never...

Hoping to have that minisforum flash with the great nics on the channel v soon

have fun finding a small form factor full flash nas with 10Gbe + 5 nvme slots at 500€.... i will buy more... if you just want to use 1/2,5 Gbe there is no reason for fullflashstorage in first place....obviously you do not know much about networking / hardware :/ you could get cheap away with an usb external drive and make a share out of it.. is it smart? nope.. is it cheap ? yea.. for you seems would be enough

I would also pick the Minisforum MS-01 over UGreen's 480T Plus since it has better hardware and value in regards to what you get for the price. 👍

Do you know the idle power consumption on the 4 bay pro?

@@sirdurex5581 The Minisforum MS-01 has 2 x SFP+ ports + 2 x 2.5Gbe. Beats the Ugreen any day with it's single 10 Gbe RJ45 port

Hardware issues or software? Honestly, I’m willing to bet if you listed on eBay as an international sale you’ll get most if not all and then some of your money back. There is still a lot of interest in the hardware. Personally, I only went in for the hardware aspect. I’d it’s software issues I would consider just installing TrueNAS Scale or Unraid, especially since UGOS won’t be supported after your warranty

I myself chose to have them send it to Germany and use a shipping company to send it to the Netherlands. I'm fortunate that my country is close to germany but for a big group of people this Kickstarter is unfortunately not very accessible.

Nicely balanced man. Respect

Tbh it's effectively 'that' already, not that they are flexible on the OS. Use it or not, it's the users call now. I'm not sure the software is making much of a dent on the price tbh

You would be surprised how difficult it is to build a DIY NAS in a turnkey format. The current cases on the market is just too big and bulky compared to a turnkey solution. I seriously welcome this product range from a "open source - ability to BYO OS" point of view, when that's said, I wouldn't spend 2 minutes on Ugreen OS.

The software nails the basics and fundamentals (which at the price is ok), just don't go expecting a Synology or QNAP featured experience. If you are just looking for targeted storage over SMB and backups, the software does the job. But it's a beta, so hard to go in too hard/critical either

Genuine thank you for the insight and input! (Really hard in my British tone for that to not sound sarcastic). I see your points, though I would still venture to argue that the system, software and time between now and intended fulfillment to backers is all at the juncture that security needs to be squarely thought out and outlined by now. Especially for a NAS device that will be heading to quite alot of lesser net savvy users. Again, really appreciate the feedback and pov man. Have a great weekend!

As a non-native English speaker, I always have issues with the "Is my comment sounds sarcastic or not?" topic too 😅 And in case I was a bit confusing, I totally agree with you on this security topic now. Since only a few days before the campaign ends, and if I recall correctly, Ugreen stated that the expected shipping date is June/July, I also think that as of now, they should take care of focusing on the security aspects and just concentrate on the first final release version of the OS. My note was mainly in connection to earlier versions. But I think they should work on the production-ready release soon, instead of focusing on ZFS, iSCSI, and whatever new functionalities. In my humble opinion, they won't be able to properly satisfy everybody since there are a ton of edge cases that do not make sense to spend development resources on (I could talk about issues related to development teams led by management people instead of other devs for days), and they have already delivered Docker support, which is the perfect alternative compared to shipping custom (and usually mediocre) software packages (and it is not that hard to follow up on a few tutorials that a bunch of people are going to create anyways...). Btw, if I were part of that dev team, I would opt for something similar to what CasaOS is doing with its apps (that are basically just Docker images with some config) or like the Applications in TrueNAS Scale - just not with Kubernetes (maybe even let the community add extra packages/repositories, like TrueCharts for TrueNAS). The OpenSource community can do wonders when corporate people let them do what they want... But this does not really matter right now. Until the product is delivered, they should not work on new functionalities but instead focus on making the OS as stable as it can be for a new product. Then, during the first few days/weeks, they should focus on the (hopefully just a few) small bugs/issues reported by the actual end users. After that, they can deliver new functionalities and disrupt the NAS business however they want to do that. But right now, they should focus on the average users, and for them, security is something that you have to take care of. I hope you have a fantastic weekend as well!

I see your point. But also, look at it from the PoV of the backers who haven't done their "time in the trenches" of I.T and/or general networking. A NAS can be alot more intimidating/time consuming proposition that you think. Yes, they could learn...build..improve..have a better server. But turnkey has always appealed to those users who are less versed on this. That's why it's important that people highlight that the software needs more time in the oven, despite some solid H/W - as those users might not appreciate how significant a point that is. Hope you see my point too many. Have a great weekend

@@nascompares Or I would add someone like me. Would I consider myself saavy enough to build a system and tinker with it and get it to do what I want it to do? Sure. I love putting systems together. But sometimes you just wanna grab something "off the shelf" and go. "I just don't feel like it" is very real lol.

In my view a (small home/office) NAS is all about the software, it's ease of use and reliability. Otherwise why not use an old pc as a proper server, sticking Windows Server or your server OS of choice on it.

Bummer!

@nascompares that would have been my first ever NAS, I had planned to use it for Plex and extended backup for my security NVR. Back to deciding what to buy.

Same - I am in UK with the same problem. I am sure it will become available elsewhere than Germany and US, but at what price??

Fair play

Brexit

Ugreen is a big company they aren't a new small up and comer. They are established and financial very stable. They just launched the nasync on Kickstarter to enter the western market. They already have a footprint with NAS systems in Asia

It's not 'bad'. Just rudimentary in alot of places. If they commit long term to the things they say they want to do with it (and fair play, they have invested alot in this, where £5M raised is comparatively small) then this software could really improve!

THIS!

Beautifully put!

Did the really do Hardware? Most of them Looks like oem Things

@@MasterMind187b. They most likely slap their brand on OEM stuff.

Wait...what?

I think ElectronicWizardary got name checked (for his great 3rd party OS video). Where did @mkbhd get mentioned? Genuine question, as this was recorded a few days ago and we were on the call for like 90mins. Covered loads . Cheers man

@@nascompares he was the last one to talk he then said he wanted to talk about new products being reviewed and then mention MK's name watch your video and he said I don't know if you guys know about it or not he has a little channel

it was a joke

At like the 10 minute mark? Yeah 100% that was a joke lol

@@mustafa1984455 it was a sarcasm