UK casuals talks to Martyn Gardner (ymo) Lincoln L.T.E (Life in the lower leagues) 

Cheers dude

Cheers pal

Thanks for your comment, the aim of the channel is to do just that

I was 18 so was 16 just as the Casual / Dresser scene had started proper in 1980 they said it was a phase..long phase back then we had 4/5 shops to get gear from or be lucky to have scally mates who would bring you stuff back from Rotterdam etc European games or friendlies abroad. The clothes were new to us then..now vintage, retro etc and anyone can buy from anywhere PayPal kids etc. Old School and a lot of Youngsters that know the score can get decent attire then you have the clowns who have nothing but Stone Island in their wardrobe and think it makes them a Casual..it doesn't

Cheers mate

just recorded part 2 coming out soon!

cheers mate hopefully we can get bigger we've been going for just over a year, as you say its social history and a British sub culture just like mods & punks etc so onwards and upwards.

And 1 old woman

Also Limeys had shops in Leicester and Sheffield as well.

Limeys in derby, i know it well, I've had a lot ot good gear since the eigties from there, lapel on green lane is good too, stoke played in derby back in the mid nineties and mobb robbed limeys on sadler gate, had a good mob out that day stoke did, derby dlf 86

I remember being in a cell with Andy A, me shouting at coppers , singing my heart out, but actually pissing off our fellow ex serviceman, Tilly said he wanted to kill me 😂 , but yes, Scott free as you said, good old days never to be repeated but no regrets whatsoever, some of the best days of my life and mates with most 40 years on , hope your well mate

@@martyngardner3890 Andy A not the sort of bloke you want to piss off ! Yeah, I'm ok thanks. Got a list of ailments as long as your arm but ain't we all .

cheers mate Martyn has recently taken part in a part 2

Ha yes remember it well, they were scanners not walki talkies, we were listening to the old bill on their Chanel, one step ahead sometimes

@martyn Gardner l was back just before Christmas trying to find that boozer with the Mrs 🤣. I'm sure that was the game before we went to Norway and the infamous 2-1 defeat your boys took one he'll of a beating . Great days mate BS.....

Agreed back in them 4th division days lincoln was dodgy, you there when it went off in the stand late 80s and burnley were climbing over out the terrace?

@@burnleytilidie1882 No..but i do remember two vans full of us waiting for a few lads who were nicked and it went tits up at about 9pm.

@@burnleytilidie1882 have you watched our interview with Andrew 'pots' porter?

@@UKCasuals you better believe it I know pot 👍

I was about 12 at boothferry park , remember Lincoln had a mob of about 100 lads all in red caps for some reason....went of all day lol...happy days...was only a bain , good buzz

Old luton boy here reminiscing great honest video Martin.I remember playing Bradford City back in the seventies Luton were in the top flight then Bradford were old division 4 drew them in the f a cup they turned up on the train about 11 in the morning about 200 of them and battered us all day long best small northern firm that ever came to Luton

nice to know people are watching in Italy

@@UKCasuals i am a football fans SS lazio 1900 casual firm. And I always interested in football casual culture expecially in the UK. I like west ham ICF.

@@dariocambise5058 if you speak good English we can get you on the show?

Cheers mate, spread the word

fairp lay mate greetings from England

we will see what we can do Stuart

Brendan there were 92 exactly because my mate ran a tote and charged a pound a go at guess the crowd and another lad called Paul won 92 pounds 😀😀

@@chrisdwane1307 I had my leg in plaster & you were put Yates in mardol Shrewsbury town centre. I went to go in until someone shouted & warned me ob said nothing bastard's ha

That's good numbers for lower league don't you think

@@brendanforbes1081 it was a red hot day if I remember correctly we came on the train and it was bloody hot and another lad was selling his beer on the train 😀😀😀

@@chrisdwane1307 yeah that's the one boiling hot day

Burnley always turned up, but one day when you came, you were in a pub called The Still, town centre, we popped our heads in and you came out, about twenty of you and got utterly slaughtered, three SS knocked out right outside, the rest chased all over , a Lincolnshire echo reporter was walking by and witnessed it and took pics and it T was on the front page of the early edition and we bought copies and at the game we’re throwing copies in your end for you to see, 1983-84, ask any of your older lot that were there that day, you came the season before and it went off with bigger numbers and the season after it was at yours in the car park that one of yours got severely slashed right down his back, very naughty I know and the lad has always regretted doing it , we never knew he was carrying a Stanley knife, but to be fair one of yours had a machete, and two of ours got ripped jackets and we’re lucky really,

One of the best kick offs I've ever seen in cleethorpes, like he said, every fucker going for it, mayhem all day lol

Yes mate MH , I came once with Lincoln to Forest with Man Utd, about 15 Lincoln there , walked through The Broadmarsh Center bus station and Forest came running from out of nowhere, and ran us Lincoln and the Man Utd that were with us , good day though

@@martyngardner3890 ye I do remember Lincoln lads at games there this was around 85. FairPlay to you an thanks for confirming. Top man

Haven’t seen him in a while not sure he goes anymore at all. All getting old lol

Oh sorry when you say Utd I thought you ment sheff united...

@@Disorder1889 course you did

Hope your well Geoff , you was a really good coach manager , loved playing for your side when I was a young kid . You always had my back top man . I used to take libertys in training and you’d make sure nobody broke my legs thanks for the memories CJ

@@chrisjohnson3813 I am well Chris, trust you are well. Thanks for the kind words. Are you still in Lincoln?

Yes I am a grandad now ,silver fox haha work in engineering your name often comes up when talking about the old days . Heard you had moved to Arizona is that right . Don’t really do Facebook or anything

@@chrisjohnson3813 No, am in Georgia US. Am on Facebook, but want to get off it ASAP.

Cheers Geoff , how your all good n well out there

Cant beat being at a match can you? the atmosphere, the songs, the chants watching footy on TV doesn't compare but i do like watching England on T.V TBF

Thanks for your comment Martyn will be back for a part 2 in the near future

Lincoln was a top firm when it mattered Everyone goes on about Bradford city in the lower leagues .but trust me Lincoln was a naughty little firm that held there own .

Part 2 will be in the near future

Appropriate name as when I read this you literally had me in fits ( of laughter)

@@martyngardner3890 get in de lad 😋🍒🍒

Shouldve got top comment just for the jokes

@@tHeBaKeRs24 us scunner lads had Millwall in tears 👌😁😁

@@bennysbandits4369 it's ok nobody likes them

Mate we were young and on the dole, £52 a fortnight, we were 17, so we did what we had to, we stood our ground week in week out mate, in the daytime taxing foreign students for clobber, doing safes, tills, robbing handbags ect, called surviving mate, once we started working we obviously bought our own gear,

@martyn Gardner yes get all that but the lads you are on about wouldn't be wearing dodgy lacoste it would be robbed or taxed I've never seen a decent lad what ever age wearing moody gear

@@angie-smart-but-casual this was like 1982, no shops in Lincoln sold designer clothing, that shop I was on about was in Boston, if you listened a bit more you’ll hear we started to go to Nottingham once we had cash, usually from sneak thieving or burglary, and stealing from shops like Limeys or Austin Reeds, either way it wasn’t long before we were all decked out in decent gear , anyway not one to nit pick mate, got nothing to prove and chilling in life now, oh I’ll observe, but not look for it, we still all drink together and I meet up with a few Derby/Forest ect for old school chats about our past, once you’ve got grandkids, if you don’t stop then basically your a tool , take care fella

@martyn Gardner yes I meet up with old school lads we met along the way few drinks and laughs, I'm not a grandma yet so I just go to the games and wear the gear..semi retired like you but if you are needed sometime you have to carefully step in..but yes no where we're you on Saturday grandad .I got nicked at forest away ..no way !!

Loved when the Yorkshire clubs visited, they always got a warm welcome on cleethorpes sea front

@@marcdenniss43 very true

Great day mate, Jack sparrow walking past The Vaults I was stood at the door, it had just gone off at The Anchor, white Rabbit, Incredibles , brilliant, a game as fuck Lincoln lad who had an England top on that day died a few weeks ago, he got smacked that day but was straight into you , you had one lad in designer gear on the phone to your others that were further up the high street saying hurry up it’s going off, so me and him had a bit of a stand off as I was saying fuck ya phone it’s even numbers , but every lad from both mobs game as fuck that day, hence part two were I told this story as well as Swanseas visit , respect mate

@@martyngardner3890 total respect..remember you coming to wxm 2003 ish..wxm had a load banned..we couldnt get numbers that day but you had good set lads ..as did hull.....next season bradford came as well as barnsley[the latter was there get together for aa top lads death[we where in the turf.i went out [fresh air i think.then they were escorted by heddlu..theyd been in a pub by b and q..eh by gum wheres ye boys taffy..i remember a lump 6.4 tall at the back..hang on there in the turf..4 heddlu at the back telling me tp fuck off.darted back in turf emptied but it was words exchanged as they got to wxm general station...ive had a stroke so not been since tamworth away july 2021..but mate who was bob the builder at yours getting a ticket for the blades...fa cup...but lincoln will always be one of my faves..mad day..whats the boozer by sincil bank by the river..load youth piled out..i lost my mocassin[dont laugh i was a convict ..ball chain went missing at the anchor and moccy when a peter storm wearing 20 something went toe to toe with me..old man haha ..lincoln copper triuncheoned everyone before more bizzies arrived..[[few your older lads followed us over the bridge..tattooed game boxer types..respectful..to lincoln

First time I’ve seen this post , our youth came and did everything in sight , spoke to a Bolton lad on another site and he said ‘ we didn’t think you would come , our youth are good and travel on their own now, but respect either way fella

@@martyngardner3890 ok mate All out lot are banned to tbh I’m sure we will catch up one day all the best mate

Remember going to Chesterfield last game of the season one year in the 9os we completely took the piss before during and after regards Grimsby

Chesterfield? of course ya did fella, you keep eating that magic cheese 🧀 mate, must be working , because every time I’ve been to yours with Lincoln, you disappear

@@martyngardner3890 apparently something kicked off in a pub and they smashed your pub to bits

@@0gino0 mate I’m not even gonna get into a debacle about something that probably didn’t happen and you weren’t even there, if you weren’t there and didn’t get involved, I suggest you keep quiet lad, I’m being polite

@@0gino0 yeah I remember that incident, but you first said Chesterfield did Lincoln and smashed a pub up, one window went through and a few punches thrown after some of our lads went in, just read , a Lincoln lad got jail and some Chesterfield nicked, not quite how you headlined it , draw a line under it now as I can’t be arsed with tit for tat

Yes correct , some of your gamest black lads up front, you did well that night and brought a good set of lads

It was the week before we had Feyenoord away, that weekend we headed out over there. The following week we had the Goons in the Cup at ours. Didn`t matter where you went big or small it always hooted.. Great times, take care mate 👍

Is that it ?

who put 50p in the dickhead

@@martyngardner3890 Sorry Martin I'm an old luton boy same age went all through the seventies and eighties.We often went up north but only the big firms like Leeds Man Utd and Boro came to Luton we always got done by Millwall Chelsea and West ham they were real firms don't mean to piss you off but just don't rate many of the smaller northern firms you probably don't rate luton Sorry to hear your not to well but like you said It is great to remenis and weather we agree or not they were great times take care

@@davidmcclements436 I rate Luton actually, we never had a do with MIGS until a few years ago when you turned up , two mobs , two different pubs, our youth attacked Wetherspoons were your lads were, they all got jail, another 60 Luton in Treaty of Commerce pub came walking down the high street, I was on my own as just been to see my tattooist , now you can ask your lads if this is genuine, I was walking beside your mob, unfazed by the odds , I noticed this bloke staring at me , on the path 30 years away from your mob, now he wasn’t gobbing off, so I thought he was a member of the public merely scowling because of the thugs in town, then BANG !! I’m seeing fucking stars, proper almost out for the count, a black lad came running over and said ( oldest Hooligan trick in the book ) you starting on my mate you cunt, because the coppers were straight on it, coppers grabbed me, pinned me up against a shop door, my legs still like jelly, until a member of the public came and said , actually officer that lad up there, Luton big hitter punched this feller when he had his back turned, great punch , hardest I’ve been hit in twenty years, it was even on RU-vid for a bit, thank fuck it’s not anymore, now matey boy got nicked , I was unaware that a copper in a marked car was filming it the whole time, my mate Marcus who got time for this ( 2 years) met big hitter at court and they got chatting, he thought I’d given a statement, but when he got nicked and realised it was only old bill that had him to rights , he said to my mate , tell him fair crack, now the day after I got twatted , our police football intelligence officer rang me up ( don’t ask how he got my number) and said to me, the lad who smacked you has been in trouble for football violence in every decade from the 60’s onwards, Hertfordshire police want him, I said you know the answer to that , they never rang again, so yeah you brought a good mob that day and I’ve nothing but respect for anyone that’s come to Lincoln proper looking for it

i like to hear from the lower league firms tbh, Westham and Chelsea has been documented but the lower league teams also have a story as well. Haven't had anyone on from Luton yet

@@UKCasuals Martin one game that I can never forget was back in the seventies I think I was about 17 Luton were a good team at the time always in division 1 and 2 at the time.We drew Bradford City at home in the f a cup they were division 4 they turned up by train about 200 of them at 10 o'clock in the morning I'm telling you they took the living piss they done Luton all day long and after the game. Millwall and Chelsea are the only other teams that completely done us all day long but they always had a few thousand.Bradford definatly one of the top firms I ever saw at Luton especially from up north

In a lot of interviews Lincoln LTE always get their respect!

Millwall did us, but only just after the game, before and during it was evens , in the ground going off all over, Wednesday night match, but after the game it was going off but Millwall got the better of us in the end

@@martyngardner3890 at least you are honest mate but you gave us a good row and that’s what it was all about!! I know we were the benchmark for a lot of firms but at the end of the day u got to admit it when it goes the other way or even stevens but I hate these pricks who don’t admit it and after all we all bleed 🩸 thanks for replying 👍⚒️

Millwall did us, going off all over before during and after the game , but after they mobbed up and did us after the game ( Wednesday night )

Yeah we travelled well mate, cheers pal