Ukraine-Russia Series: Storm Shadow vs Russian SAMs: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5wJPbBAj0WM.html Iskander vs Various SAMS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KxxahORODBA.html HIMARS vs Russian SHORADs: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DI6yIt0goPA.html Storm Shadow vs Kerch Bridge: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UsHa9Fe29gI.html Rapid Dragon vs Black Sea Fleet: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rvUTl6xjxqY.html Ukraine With JDAM-ER: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-deWnN1319Xw.html UK Typhoons vs Su-57: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OnKuV6259ck.html F-22 Raptors vs Russia President: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Fcmt2kdebvI.html Air Force One vs Russia: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IDVULTyzcEw.html AGM-179 JAGM vs 2S38 & T-90: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6-f8GJzxg5E.html SEAD & ATACMS vs Kerch Bridge: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HJ0MgwXydyY.html IMP US Strike vs Black Sea Fleet: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xSUAiTVwI6o.html HIMARS ATACMS vs Kerch Bridge: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uU_SPj0HQgo.html Sa-11 Buk Firing Sea Sparrow: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uBoryuBHfBQ.html US Strike vs Black Sea Fleet: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KMwYjJghQiA.html Rus SEAD vs Modernized Patriot: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FdoyfKgaONE.html Rus Bombers vs Modernized Patriot: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4Y961tLNE18.html JDAM vs S-400 Network: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wP4sfDG-01E.html Kinzhal vs Pac-3 & IRIS-T: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-i0GzbajI0mU.html F16 or Gripen for Ukraine?: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Y-k71nfap4Q.html Mig-31 vs NATO Black Sea AWACS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vFOzjW25ItI.html R-37M Long Range Shootdown: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--3LKGL4w9Q4.html Drone Swarm vs NATO Defense: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wDBOSd9qCDs.html Patrio PAC-3/IRIS-T vs Missiles: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-N5Z81iW8YNY.html MANPAD/IRIS-T vs Russian Missiles: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-N9R9GUVcTyk.html AGM-158C LRASM vs Sevastopol: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GDZoDRhIIRw.html A-10s Operating in S-400 Nets: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5BwFlesg42o.html Modernized Su-27 vs Su-35: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7llLDzeT2Bs.html Modernized F15/F16 vs Su-35: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--TozTHbAXVs.html Can Su-57 Defend Russia From F-22/35: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-E-oC3NgxC94.html IMPROVED Stealth vs Russian Bombers: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IgwLW4YKvVU.html Ukraine Using Hellfire Missile?: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-s_1YHDTmPPw.html US Harpoons vs Russian Navy: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Oiee83CWRcE.html Ukraine Using APKWS?: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FBxV9YuAfaw.html Ukraine US HARMs vs Russian S-400: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eSyEOXsjWo8.html Patriot/NASAMS vs Supersonic Missiles: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-i1q7uDeinA4.html Fulcrum/Flanker vs Foxbat/Super Flanker: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BhXfxc94JAU.html NASAMS vs Russian Cruise Missiles: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pJI_b95jzpk.html Russian KH-47M2 vs Polish Air Force: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cnrVxqL5q9w.html Su-27 & Drone vs Snake Island: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-T_oRoU2Ayfo.html Su-25s vs Russian Convoy At Kyiv: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ryV65bUJzrw.html NATO Eurofighters vs Crimean AWACS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EiJ2dFRh95g.html Patriot, Gepard & Gripen vs KH-65: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZhxdrNjig1g.html A-10s vs Russian Convoy At Kyiv: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-B0tZoo0uLh4.html USN Tomahawk Strike Kerch Bridge: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0vpi8xBygV8.html USAF Stealth Strike Kerch Bridge: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IJbf9Bcxnw0.html Ukrainian Jets Strike Kerch Bridge: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-I8FumuZReB4.html F-22 Raptors vs Russian Fighters: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ComRcmrwJWk.html Raptor/Eagle vs Super Flanker: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-keqYmuSEo-8.html USAF Bombers vs Mariupol Defenses: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aCsboOG0QU4.html Ukraine Bombs Snake Island: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BX696MKdkb8.html Stealth Fighters vs Russian Bombers: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rym90jnQDsA.html Sinking Of Moskva #3: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NIjoyIieOzY.html Sinking Of Moskva #2: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-snjfbj_EwW4.html Sinking Of Moskva #1: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Bxwh6MGLJNc.html Russia Nukes Britain: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rzk45RFQwA8.html Ukraine Uses Danish F-16s: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-17Pikrp0QaY.html Ukraine Uses Polish Mig-29s: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zCi4tAIzuOU.html Russian-Britain Missile Attack: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zwIGfabvzHA.html Ghost Of Kyiv: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Yrct8V4n1-U.html Belgorod Raid: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mQykTxt6ftw.html Eurofighter/Fulcrum vs Super Flanker: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MPyIipEhgR0.html US Strike vs Odessa ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KeiOHgzic6Y.html Russian Helo Rocket Lob: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-118GgGnP_sM.html Russian Su-25 vs US Patriot SAM: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-asp69ZD_tO0.html Understanding Russian SAMs: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-R4xTxLNZXcw.html Ukrainian Jets Road Operations: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hBpzQhinPbw.html Russian 40 Mile Convoy: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Vr_-2FLblBk.html Flanker vs Super Flanker: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VOAuOFLJGk4.html
Several British type 45 destroyers vs the same tactics(if russia has an equivelant decoy) used here would be quite interesting to see. The speed those asters go out was quite impressive on the grim reapers video where they buzzed HMS Duncan off the coast of Crimea
I love it when a plan comes together! When these 'scientific' tests work out it really pays off in building future scenarios, and also is just damn fun to watch! I've not cheered for cruise missiles quite so much in a long time.
The ADM-160C runs in both jammer and decoy modes and is connected via datalink, so it can accept in-flight adjustments. The earlier models were preprogrammed, so could only be adjusted up to launch. I think, with mild confidence, that the navy or army began procurement on the C variant in 2012, first used in operational environment in 2014.
To the best of my knowledge, you’re 100% correct. I read that shortly after the C version started being delivered in 2012, the US military (I believe it was both the USAF and the USN) stopped procuring the older models which made the C their standard decoy.
C feeds back information its gathered via Datalink as well and can operate in either a Decoy or Jamming role. The B's had a lot longer range than the A's which were initially cancelled after 100 delivered then only two years later they changed their mind and a fresh tender was issued. I think part of the reason they moved on so swiftly to the C's though was poor navigation performance, I have read a US evaluation report that said in testing the B's and before them the A's tended to get lost and deviate from their programmed flight plans a lot which during testing resulted in a significant amount having to be self destructed for exiting the test range. The main thing is to fool the enemy they have to not just quack like a duck but move like a duck as well simulating an actual aircraft's flight path and course corrections rather than just flying in a straight line.
@@SeanPower-yr9rh You probably mean SCALP - and no it's NOT a ground launch missile - the navel version of SCALP (MdCN) could theoretically be ground launched. However in times of war stuff can be knocked up pretty quickly - a rocket assisted launch sled to put SCALP or Storm Shadow into the air is probably possible there are existing software loads that would deal with this - the only issue is power - Storm Shadow needs external power until the point the onboard jet engine is fired up. If you could fire the jet up before launch it but that might upset the trajectory of the sled! Interesting problem.
It's more likely that SU-24s are the platforms carrying Storm Shadow. Poland already did the work on compatibility for those and would have assisted with transferring knowledge over.
They have so few SU-24 it doesn't seem likely and there was nothing to say Poland wasn't doing the work on Mig-29s which it both has and is giving to Ukraine rather than SU-24 it doesn't have ...
@@Xenomorphine It would be easy to modify Polish or Slovakian Mig-29s to carry a (A!) Storm Shadow - they already have NATO spec weapons command interfaces. Ditch the (HUGE) centreline fuel tank, which is where the Storm Shadow would go and rely on underwing tanks for range.
Sooooo happy you did this. Its exactly how Raytheon intended this tech to be used. And it is very cool you decided to use the aargm-er instead of harms like Raytheon originally intended. You sir are right on point
You know the AMRAAM model is bad when Cap says this in order: "come on, come on, please work this time", "damn", "missed again", and my favorite "oh, thank God it finally hit"
The Americans put all their eggs in the stealth basket thinking they can sneak up on the enemy and abandon long range air to air missile development - thanks to real time RADAR return digital signal processing that basket is now in tatters. They are now forced into desperately playing catch-up.
@@LondonSteveLeeAnd catch up we are and will thank you. DCS is pro Russian propaganda, everything the west has in this game is garbage, Right. Keep believing that please.
@@hresvelgr7193 Stealth is as good as dead - useful - but no longer a defining factor that justifies the expense or compromise to the aircraft. Real time RADAR return oversampling and then the realtime digital signal processing on those returns can pick out and track the tiniest, tiniest return.
@@LondonSteveLee Keep pulling this bullshit out of your arse mate. Everybody knows that what you are saying is nonsense. You fail to realise that no matter how good digital signal processing gets it will always impact non stealth aircraft far more then stealth aircraft.
An idea - refighting the battles depicted in Red Storm Rising with contemporary and current weapons. Battle of the North Atlantic, the "Frisbees of Dreamland" F-19 (written before the F-117 was revealed) raid on bridges and airbases behind Soviet lines on the night before the war began, the first and second battles of Iceland and so on.
@@grimreapers No cap, thank you and the GR team. Can't remember the video but someone posted a bare bones getting into dcs a few days ago. He only name dropped the grim Reapers channel as one to get hundreds of videos to help you choose your first plane....fact alert and this is also what I did 😁
Keeps the attacks cheap using the decoys to drain targets abilities , kind of like the mass attacks with storm shadow you guys did against the kerch bridge awhile back and with HARMS very useful
Is anyone else reminded of the opening act of the US Navy in the famous Tom Clancy/Larry Bond novel Red Storm Rising? After having taken Iceland with paratroopers, the pre-war plan for using the GUIK spanning SOSUS cables and Iceland based F-15s to protect the trans-Atlantic resupply convoys is in tatters, NATO scrambles to set up a high-tech version of the WWII battle of the Atlantic. Russian Tu-16 Badgers fire a fleet of retired ASMs acting as drones simulating a Badger attack on on the Nimitz carrier battle group featuring Nimitz, Saratoga, the French carrier Foch, and helicopter carrier Saipan who was transporting a Marine division. The F-14s flew up and expended their AIM-54s on the drones, while Tu-22M Backfires blazed in with newer supersonic ASMs with only the F-8 Crusaders from Foch left to attack the Backfires and the Ticonderoga. Several ASMs made it through, exploding Saipan and its Marine division, sinking Foch, heavily damaging Ticonderoga and Nimitz and lightly damaging Saratoga. Nimitz took a hit next to CIC, killing the Admiral commanding the battle group. Sill today one of my favourite books.
Nice video, people said that the Russian aircraft shot down was an accident by the Russian anti air, but even they are not that incompetent (we all wish they were) I am sure the Ukranian airforce shot down those Russian aircraft.
The Russian thought process is just incomprehensible to me. "We've lost four planes today! Well, we can't admit that the enemy we're fighting is well-trained and decently equipped and that they're going to be able to fight back. Instead, we'll just tell everyone that our air defense forces (which are the keystone of our area-denial doctrine) are so grossly incompetent that they shot down not one, not two, not even three, but four of our own aircraft in a single day. Nailed it. Cope and seethe westoids."
I heard that the russian IFF is so bad they basically have to turn their sams off when their own planes are in the region. It was in the discussion about the 4 (or 5 ) downed aircraft and wether ot not some were friendly fire.
@@terryboyer1342 The Patriot did launch at a couple of aircraft and shot down all of them (it didn’t launch at an F-111 though), also killing all the pilots (it’s by design - the Patriot is precise enough to aim at the front of the aircraft, exactly where the pilot sits). There were a bunch of issues that caused those fratricides, like pilots flying without the IFF transponder on, there was no communication between the Patriot crews and friendly air forces operating nearby, there were some issues with the crew training, etc. Because of those blue-on-blue incidents, there was a whole slew of upgrades of the system itself, there was a complete overhaul of the training, now there’s a deep integration of the Patriot crews with the friendly air forces, etc. and thanks to that, now there are so many safeguards that it’s extremely unlikely for such an incident to happen again. The same goes for early issues encountered in 1991-every time the system fails in some way, there’s always a bunch of improvements coming right afterwards. Because of that, the Patriot from 2023 is basically a completely different system to the one from the past. All parts of the system either got replaced by new, better ones, or got so many upgrades that you’d have a problem finding a single part which remained unchanged. There’s a completely new radar, the AN/MPQ-65, which replaced the old AN/MPQ-53, and now it even got upgraded with a completely new array (AESA instead of the older PESA) and it’s now called the AN/MPQ-65A. The interceptors are also upgraded beyond comprehension (PAC-2 GEM/T) or are completely new, built from the ground up (PAC-3 CRI and PAC-3 MSE) and that basically goes for everything else.
@@terryboyer1342 yes. no matter which one, that was literally decades ago. Also statistically a few incidents, how ever tragic, are probably still a different level. IF it's true about the russian one. Many people talk many things. But assuming the worse seems to be a fairly safe bet about them.
@@MaxIsStrange1 I think I confused the F-111 evasion with one that was attacked by I think a Mig-29. If I remember correctly it was at night and the Mig crashed trying to follow. I believe the F-111 was given a maneuver kill. As for the Patriot improvements I hope they were recent ones. Last year I listened to a podcast with an Army Patriot maintenance Sgt with 15 years experience saying that Patriot is a fantastic system when everythings working. Unfortunately he said that is very rare. He said the system has major reliability issues with many of the system components. He was speaking of actual deployments in middle eastern countries.
@@terryboyer1342 Not gonna tell everyone what the video was? If not then your claim is not believable, just saying: "Last year I listened to a podcast with an Army Patriot maintenance Sgt with 15 years experience saying that Patriot is a fantastic system when everythings working. Unfortunately he said that is very rare." Doesn't prove anything.
A target I think would be interesting to do would be Ukraine targetting the Crimea canal. When Russia first invaded Crimea Ukraine blocked it, food production in Crimea dropped massively. When Russia invaded UA proper they then unblocked it. Dropping a number of bridges over the canal would reduce/stop the flow of water and put pressure on the vulnerable Kerch straight bridge and air-lifters. :)
GR, thank you so much for pumping out a video a day. I love that you are hours ahead of me… my day starts better when I start it with a GR video. Thank you so much, you are a very valued content creator!! I noticed that all of the Russian units are Average skill level. Has that always been the case with these scenarios? I thought the skill levels were set higher. Also, I noticed one unit was set to a heading of 44, but I’m not smart enough to know if that had any meaningful impact. Cheers!
I set the same AI level for all coalitions: Planes - ACE Ground units - AVERAGE Those are the settings that just seem to work best. Sometimes we increase ground unit levels for certain situations.
Just curious about why you're not modeling Ukrainian SU-24M and SU-27 as Western munition platforms? The SU-27 has already been retrofitted with a HARM capability and is the most likely candidate for additional hybridization. The SU-27 and SU-24M would be far better able to handle the Stormshadow. If you gave an answer in video which I missed I apologize.
The SU-27 & SU-24M mods' compatibility with these new weapons are probably not yet modeled for DCS. The mods GR is using are by _"CH",_ and he's likely working on the SU mods.
Only problem with this scenario is that you've concentrated the AA around the target. What we are seeing in Ukraine is the AA is spread out across the front.
Generally these scenarios are set up in worst case scenarios, such as the radar operators at full alert expecting an attack with all radars turned on, equipment working, instead of you know a bunch of poorly maintained piles of junk manned by a bunch of drunkards busy taking a smoke break. So setting up the defense in high concentration and properly positioned is not that much of a big deal compared to the rest of it.
Aircraft irl have towed decoys look at the f35s defense system it’s crazy I would assume it would work but due to the weight weapons and kinematics penalties it’s probably not worth it. Every mald takes the space of at least 2 missiles and has a pretty heavy kinematic penalty
@@MaxIsStrange1 He already tested out the LRASM vs the Chinese fleet. Alone, without decoys... The Chinese fleet got wiped out from the 24 LRASM missiles...
@@sulyokpeter3941 i know but LRASM is just to good to be true. I would rather see what current tech with MALD and Harpoon could do. Earlier GR showed that a single type 55 easily defended a massive harpoon attack. Wanna see how MALD could disrupt that.
From what an ex general said on TV, the decoy missiles have the ability to look like 3 missiles, so each one can potentially cause Russia to lose 3 Sams firing at ghosts.
Cap plz do uk 2030 carrier strike vs other carrier strikes (with type 45 with 72 vls (48 sylver + 24 CAMM) and type 26 w my 41 + FC/ASW hypersonic anti ship weapon and HMS QE at full wartime continued capacity of 56/complete maximum 72 f-35
The second attack was much more realistic. This attack didn't even include possible imbedded EW counter measures in the strike package.... Impressive. Most impressive. missile
The MALD can put out a strong fake imitation radar return that is pretty easy for ground radar to see and launch at (that's kind of the point), and S300/S400 missiles are large and have large warheads to compensate for poor accuracy/precision. So unless the MALD is programmed/capable of detecting missile launches and turning off their imitation and return to their natural small radar return to lose the lock of the ground radar then, yes, they'd be pretty easy to shoot down. But they're incredibly cheap and will crash regardless and are not capable of being reused, so if they can waste more than one SAM that'd be great, but even wasting one is good enough.
@@MaxIsStrange1 MALD-C has jammer or decoy modes and datalink so can relay back what radar its being painted with, MALD A/B only have decoy mode and no communications.
@@watcherzero5256 "MALD A/B only have decoy mode and no communications." They also aren't being used anymore, none have been procured since the ADM 120C (MALD J) went into service, i.e. the MALD A/B were practically phased out in 2012.
@@aflyingcowboy31 They ordered MALD-A in 1996 then cancelled it in 2001 after around 150 had been delivered, and in 2003 ordered MALD-B with 1,500 being delivered between 2009 and 2015 and MALD-C was ordered in 2008 with 1,200 being delivered between 2012 and 2016. After the US Airforce stopped buying them in 2016 (they have received some sustainment contracts in the interim for reconditioning C's into a C-1 variant) Raytheon received permission to sell the B abroad but didnt find any buyers. Meanwhile the British had expressed interest in a modular payload version, the MALD-V in 2009 but also didnt procure any. The US Navy ordered 250 MALD-N in 2020 for delivery in 2022 after some R&D contracts in 2019. All in all as far as I can tell 10 production lots of 200 MALD of varying version were ultimately ordered with the 10th being in 2016 and the latest being the US Navys in 2020 with a planned 11th batch for the airforce in 2018 not occurring.
Great video! All the stuff below is just out of curiousity (first part) and trying to be somewhat informative (second part). Thanks as always! When you said the decoys are mimicking a B-52, is that per the in-game code/setting or your understanding of how the MALD works? I was under the impression they could set it up to emulate the radar profile of just about anything. I don't think any of this matters for DCS purposes because it likely isn't coded that sophisticated, but I think the real decoys would likely emulate any attack missile that realistically flies at the same speed, as you want the radar systems to see them as iminent threats where they can't simply rule them out as decoys because they know x, y, or z aren't in theater or don't travel at those speeds. Just a thought. Also, not a huge deal for the sake of the video, but I'm extremely confident in saying they wouldn't be giving Ukraine any frontline missile variant, which means AIM-120 C5/C7 at best and the old HARMS, not the new ones. Just saying - these things do crash and are either duds or enough peices hit the ground intact to learn valuable information from them, and anything Russia manages to salvage in the war, China will also likely get their hands on it and could eventually supply Russia with the tech/chips to emulate tech. Rumor is the Kinzhal is full of US/western tech and chips.
So as a former "Gator Freighter" sailor, LHD8 to be specific, I've wondered how an amphibious strike group set to jump carrier load (21 harrier/f35b and 2 s60s) would fair in action against a ww2 strike group. A amphibious strike group consists of 1 lpd, 1 lsd, 1 cruiser and 2 destroyers (up to 8 addional helos *ah1, uh1, sh60, sh53, ch46* Modern LHD/LHAs are of comparable size to ww2 carriers at ~844ft (257m) by 110ft (32m)
Considering the MOD admitted that the Harrier GR9 could have carried Storm Shadow I'm sure a MiG-29 could easily with a modification or two if necessary.
@@Rover200Power Storm Shadow is too heavy for a Mig-29's wings, the centreline drop tank station could accommodate the weight (its drop tanks weigh exactly the same as a Storm Shadow) though you would be reducing the aircrafts combat range to around 500 miles. The Germans modified their Mig-29's to plumb the inline wing pylons for external fuel tanks to get more range, but that reduced the weight of weapons it could carry on the other wing pylons to just short range missiles. Harrier could carry upto 1900kg on a wing pylon (as long as 500kg was carried on the other wing to balance it) but the weapon was never software integrated.
@@LondonSteveLee Thats a fuel tank connection not a weapon station though its rated for the same weight, you could wire it and accept losing half the Mig-29's combat range, but its some work. Anyway theyve now confirmed they are using the SU-24M as the launch platform.
I don't know how accurate it is, but I was reading that the MALDs don't *have* to be decoys. Because there is no overengineering like US Military Budget overengineering.
Well, if overengineering is your thing then so is Storm Shadow - it's a pretty much complete sophisticated ground attack aircraft with all major modern systems rolled up into a missile. It was designed to operate perfectly well without any GPS guidance.
Nice double test scenario - One more version to try - 4 Flights to the north - each of 6 aircraft. Flight 1 - each with 4 AARGM-ER missiles: Flight 2 - each with 8 MALD, Flight 3 - each with 8 Storm Shadow - Flight 4 - CAP Com with AMRAAM for air defence. Flight 1 would launch first and fly ahead of the the group - just outside the S400 line they would launch the AARGM-ER missiles to the targets to take out the S400 and other radar systems ahead of the interdiction. Flight 2 would then come in about 2 minutes behind flight 1 and launch the MALDs at the S400 line toward the target - this would ensure that any missiles that managed to be launched would have decoys and likely mitigate the risk to the offensive missiles coming up in Flight 3. Flight 3 would then approach about 10 minutes behind Flight 1, this would ensure that the AARGM-ER had mitigated the radar threat around the target and the MALDs would be distracting any inflight missile systems or at least occupying any radar still in operation. They would fly inside the S400 line to a range of around 70 miles before launching the Storm Shadows at a height over the sea of around 100ft, ensuring the missiles would remain below the effective height of any radar on the missile batteries due to ground shadow. Flight 4 - these would advance and take out any aircraft in the area of operations and ensure the air corridor remained free from aerial threat. So be safe certain of success, I would also have a duplicate flight of Flights 1-3 which would approach from the South, over the main part of the black sea - again the AARGM-ER's would be fired inside the S400 line, with the aircraft "popping up" to sight the radar stations - the flight with MALD's would then complete a decoy launch as in the north. The last of the southern flights with Storm Shadows could then either target the primary if it had not been elliminated, or select a secondary target of opportunity to elliminate that - such as naval units operating in the area or within Sephastopol harbour. With the addition of the Storm Shadow, AARGM-ER, MALD and AMRAAM - maybe nice to organise another attack on the Kirch bridge - again, split attack from the North and the South to ensure maximum damage.
You always add a few real missiles in the decoys. If they don't shot you get them, and if they do shoot the second run gets them. This will guarantee that they alawys have to shoot
Hi Cap, I was wondering if the new generation of stand off range glide bombs we see being developed have made strategic bombers relevant/survivable in the battlefield again. Would it be possible for you guys to check that? For example, would a mass B-52 arc light style raid, with the planes releasing loads of JDAM-ERs, be able to overwhelm/destroy an IADS & a random strategic target?
@@Utubesuperstar right, but those are missiles expensive & complex missiles. I'm wondering more if modern glide bombs made bombers not only survivable but also profitable again in the battlefield.
Try patriot against kinzhals. Yesterday 6 of the 6 kinzhals were downed with 3 impacts on the ground minimally, and allegedly 1 destroyed with 32 missles launched.
I don’t doubt that Russia can shoot all those systems down but the most unrealistic thing that would actually make a difference is the max coordination
According to sources I read, MALD are typically programmed on the ground, but they can be reprogrammed by the pilot in flight up to the time of launch. Once they're off the rail, their programming can no longer be changed.
the malds probably reflect with a delay line, meaning the target the missile sees is not only bigger, but further away from the mald. i assume the mald doesn't get hit so easy
I think that's how they are going to launch the strom shadow. In the middle of the su -jet bomber. That was a good way how everything works. On a permit day. Also the shadow can hug the lsnd and move around, that was good .👍👾
There is absolutely no proof that Ukrainians used AMRAAMs to shoot down the four aircraft. Other possibilities are friendly fire from Russian SAMs (maybe precipitated by their own jamming helicopters), Ukrainian SAMs or even manpads from within Russian territory. It would be much harder integrating AMRAAMs on Soviet aircraft compared to ground attack missiles that can be preprogrammed on the ground. Still loved the video though
Manpads pretty much ruled out as the planes and helicopters were about 100 miles apart when they were shot down. Could be Ukraine moved a short or medium range SAM upto the border for an ambush, drones carrying air to air weapons pushing close or just inside Russian airspace or indeed more likely freindly fire with them not told about the movement that reportedly was a joint bombing mission and army commanders being carried in one of the helicopters to inspect artillery placement from the air. The Commanders being carried may even be why one of their precious EW helicopters was being used.
"NATO Spec" Polish and Slovakian MiG-29s - which the Ukrainians have - already carry the right equipment to interface to AMRAAM B and C. Whack on a hardpoint conversion and you're already there. Trivial undertaking in times of war.
CAP, first off, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THESE VIDEOS/ACTION MOVIES!!!! Could you see if there is a naval strike or carrier group that could take on a small country, like maybe Russian navy vs Israel?
Hi, Cap & Co. Something came to mind while I was watching the new video today, and I’m not sure that you guys have quite done ‘this’. At least if you have I haven’t been able to find it. In terms of an external weapons load-out adding drag to an aircraft, which in turn of course reduces speed & fuel efficiency - perhaps you could do an experiment in which you take a fighter, for instance an F-15, with various load outs, and fly at the maximum possible speed at a certain altitude. Let’s say 30K feet. Once at max speed, launch a missile and see what the reduction of drag would allow in additional speed. The idea being to learn if a particular missile has an actual drag ‘value’ that is consistent. Additionally, this could be done at different altitudes to see if the ‘drag value’ curve is in fact consistent. The same could obviously be done with various bomb load outs as well. It’s a bit of an ‘obvious’ principle to experiment with. But I think the result would be rather fascinating. And as best as I can tell, it’s something that the illustrious Grim Reapers have yet to do. All the best to you & Mrs Cap, and of course to Baby Cap! My best ‘dad advice’ would be this… even when you’ve been sleepless for longer than you would’ve thought humanly possible, try and make a note to truly be a sponge & soak EVERYthing in. Because later on when ‘Baby Cap’ is ‘Teenager Cap’, you will cherish every single memory of him as a little one. Accumulate as many of those memories as you guys can.
Hi Doc. I did take a little look at this a few years back: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ppqnprvEHNA.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ejp7Uq4D3WQ.html
I'd be curious to try high-performance ultralight airplanes(like Blackshape Prime for example) armed maybe with something like a MG or a PKT intercepting Shaed drones
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Hey GR's, another great simulation but I thought that the recent loss of 5 Russian aircraft was due to Russian friendly fire, which seemed to be unlikely in my humble opinion unless something was able to interfere with the Russian Telesponder system. Could a ADM-160C "MALD-J", cause the Russians to mistake their own aircraft as enemy targets and cause them to shoot down automatically?
On the AIM-120D performing bad again, it looked like they were too high and/or had too little maneuverability due to being that high. It looks like they only acquired/reacquired multiple times when getting really close and happened to be 5,000 feet or so above their target trying to turn very slowly downward. Seemed odd to me. My understanding was the AWACS is supposed to guide them in and they shouldn't be going way up over top like that?
The decoys not only look like B52's...they can make themselves appear as any kind of flying object. B52, F16, Mig29, etc. It's idea is to trick the SAM operators into either believing there's a higher threat target such a fighter/bomber coming their way as well as it's meant to confuse systems that are used in "AUTO" mode. Those systems will fire at targets depending on their threat levels. By spoofing the radar....it could make them either waste missiles or even hold fire because they think it may be one of their own planes. These MALD's have been modified to even have the capability of having warheads on them. Smaller, cheaper, electronic warfare, spoofing, cruise missile. Lol they are a fascinating piece of tech. I would love to see their capabilities when used by the military it was designed for.
@@dexlab7539 True, however since we use private industry to produce most of our weapons....we always pay outrageous prices for weapons. It likely cost less than $10,000 to actually make this thing....but profit margins on weapon systems are astronomical.
IRL Russian's wouldn't be able to tell b/c some MALDs will be bombers and others will be escort. Would look like a real strike package until you VID them.
How about similar mission against MiG-31 with R-37M CAP and Su-35 QRF. Also maybe the AWACS not seeing all the way to Crimea because they cant fly into Ukraine
MALDs can be programmed with over 250 waypoints can fly missions with up to 256 predefined waypoints. The mission profile is preprogrammed, but can be redefined by the pilot of the launching aircraft until immediately before launch.
I know the range is 90 miles, but do the real missiles take into account the speed of the target? In other words, it's 110 miles away when you fire it but since it's moving towards you it may only travel 80 miles to intercept.
Doing a blanked missile attach will leave any radar defense system overwhelmed , especially when most militaries will only cover the important infrastructure and industrial areas and their troops and gear , leaving civilians exposed . Maybe put civilian casualties to really put things into prospective , not just the dollar cost . Because this is make believe, real life is getting real at the present moment of a superior complex by us here in the west .
Ah yes, the modern version of the old _"gun/armour"_ race. Anti-missile missiles against decoys and anti-radiation missiles. All we need now is Sockington.
