Ultimate Auto Smelter Guide | Rust | Tutorial 

That's what I thought too! They are my go-to ignition methods now!

@@x-tremespeed what is the purpose of the OR gate having only one input? why not just connect filter pass to force start

@@gahbor it "smooths" out the signal. Conveyors directly connected to control inputs like force start on generators can sometimes cause them to activate even when the state of filter pass doesn't change.

@@x-tremespeed damn that was quick. i was testing this on a server and yea, that definitely happens. do you know if an industrial light works too? shut off my pc before thinking about that

It consumes 1 rW which is the entire signal so no, unfortunately. You can use any electrical component that passes through power with one 1 active input, and that doesn't consume power.

Thanks Rustyphil! Conveyors are hands down the best electrical component in rust for all their uses.

Thank you Hyperion! 😄It was definitely planned creativity and not a scrambled addition I thought of in the shower 😅

Thank you sir! You're too kind! When are we seeing another Kangaraider video? 😄

Thanks Phil! The last one was a little outdated for a while, so this was definitely due for an update!

Thank you so much! 😄

Thank you so much! Do keep in mind this is based off the most recent electricity update where logic components don't consume any power, so you may have to use the older version if console doesn't get that update as well. You can find that here!: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MIHxNXiXuy0.html

@@x-tremespeed yeah console has the older version but that's fine just have to increase the useage

Thank you, kindly! Hopefully it'll be a more regular occurrence, schedule permitting 😄

Thank you! That feeling never gets old! Nothing like having everything automated so I can just sit back and watch 😄

@@x-tremespeed you meant go out and farm didn't you? :D

Absolutely! I'm glad you enjoyed it 😄

Much appreciated - I'm glad you like it! 😄

That is much appreciated! Thank you!

Absolutely! I'm glad you enjoyed it :D

Thank you so much!

Absolutely! That wouldn't be hard to add at all. A memory cell with the HBHF sensors hooked up to "set" is all you would need to do, with a button to manually reset (or a more complex circuit if you want that automated to). If you want, join my discord linked in the description and I can send you a diagram for that within the next few days.

Absolutely! I wasn't huge into electric furnaces the first time around, but after seeing how widely used it is I had to add it this time around 😄 I don't really play much rust nowadays, but mostly in a group when I do!

The prettiest goddess I've ever seen! 😂

It's very handy!

Thank you! 😄

My only issue with using the nodes is the insane amount of wiring you would need to do once you go above half a dozen furnaces. This way you can use a switch to turn them on and off, with the igniter as a failsafe in case they default to off during a server restart.

Thank you! Yeah! If you're using small furnaces inside your base you can even save 1 power and not use the topmost conveyor (the "wood check" one). It's only there to stop ore from sitting in the furnaces which could be stolen if the are in your compound.

No, thank YOU! 😄 Yes, unfortunately the splitter-combiner throughput doubler or "mini booster" got patched a few months ago. It's quite alright though, as that was only present to keep the efficiency of the smelter at 100% in ALL scenarios, regardless of how uncommon (specifically having huge amounts of furnaces but only depositing 1000 or less of a single ore at a time. Safe to say that's rather uncommon)

Thank you! 😄

Make sure your ore check conveyor is plugged in to the right slots! Filter pass to turn on the wood conveyor, and filter fail to turn it off. If you still have troubles, feel free to join my discord and I can help out further! The link is in the description

@@x-tremespeed Seems like the problem is the refinery. If i have wood and crude conveyors will keep on feeding wood to large furnaces whitout ores and wood+crude to refinery then ignites everything and my large furnaces keep on wasting wood. I just got started with this industrial thing today. Havent playing rust in a while tho glad im testing it b4 a real wipe

@@giuliovictor2311 yeah, if you have the refinery on the same circuit it'll do that. I normally don't mind as I will either have not enough charcoal for gunpowder anyway OR more ore than crude oil.

Due to how electricity works in the game, some components can get "blipped" by conveyors even though the signal should be constant. This causes the igniters to fire randomly when the furnaces are already running. The OR gate "smooths" out the signal and stops these blips from happening. Now that they don't consume any power, it's a really easy fix!

If you're talking about the charcoal bit specifically, yeah you can just use a smart switch there. As for everything else, it's all automated so the switch would only disable the system, but if you want that just put a smart switch before your conveyors.

You don't need to do that, it is smelting at max speed at all times. If you had resources in both slots, they would each run at half speed for the same overall output

That's an interesting idea! I don't think storage monitors would be the way to do it, as they only give pulses for box updates, but conveyors would definitely be useful for that. I'll have to sit on that idea for a while.

@@x-tremespeed replace your "charcoal factory" switch with a counter module, add one furnace output conveyor for cooked sulfur (buffer output 20) to increment, one output conveyor for charcoal (buffer output 30) to decrement, counter increment and decrement to keep track of sulfur/charcoal ratio, output of counter enables the "charcoal factory" mode. (this is probably the first legitimate use of the counter decrement function I have ever seen)

​@@Br1ckInTh3W4LLsimple and clever, I like it! You would need to use AND gate boosters for each of the conveyor's filter pass so they would turn themselves off then on again, and also interact with the counter. And depending on the smelting speed of your furnace array you may need to either add a buffer box or double the buffer values.

Filter pass activates and stays active until the conveyor cannot move items anymore, at which point it swaps over to filter fail. It's quite handy!

@@x-tremespeed yeah i assumed it would turn off and on each time it passes wood, but it just never turns off, i hopped on a server to test it and the time it stays on after passing wood is long enough to have 100% uptime so its works perfectly

@@x-tremespeed i have a question that im a little confused on. How come the filter pass activates only when it can move stuff. But the check conveyers activate when its not even connected to anything and cant move anything? Does it just freak out and perma try to move it even tho its going nowhere?

@@Julez3133 The check conveyors only look at the input container to see if items can be moved, not the output container. This is further seen if you connect a conveyor to output into a box that is already full - the conveyor will still output filter pass despite not moving anything!

and also what is the point of the "turn off" to the b port of the OR switch?

This one has the added "wood check" conveyor to turn off the ore conveyor, slightly edited power requirements, and the new ignition systems. The last one works fine still, this is just a more complete guide with more than one build! As for the OR gate, do you mean for the ignition, or in the charcoal factory? For the ignition, it stops micro circuit updates from triggering the ignition circuit. This can happen when power values are changed or even if conveyors move materials, although it is relatively random. For the charcoal factory it's so both the ore check conveyor AND the switch can control whether or not the wood conveyor operates.

@@x-tremespeed Oh my god this makes so much sense thank you. The only issues I've been having this wipe are my igniters not going off when the wood conveyor's "filter pass" was the only thing connected to the timer's "toggle" Just placed down some OR switches to see if run into this issue still

@@mtp-97 the problem was with igniters going off too much, it sounds like you have a separate issue 🤔

@@x-tremespeed interesting my issue is still that the igniters are not going off in time . just built it back to how the auto smelter 3 video is built. first time ive ever ran into this issue.

It increases the throughput! Each conveyor can pull from the same box 4 times in every movement if you have 4 adaptors.

The electric furnace values don't really matter. it's a way to keep the smelt going while not wasting time with the furnaces on but no ore smelting. I did my testing on a private server, but I could see being on a larger server could have more conveyor lag and need slightly higher settings to compensate!

@@x-tremespeed yes maybe is the server im doing the test, its a public electric server and they have a little of lag :) another question bro how much active usage I can use from a "small battery" Im using 11/15 do you think its a good number? or with is the limit? thankyou

They increase the throughput! Each conveyor can pull from the same box 4 times in every movement if you have 4 adaptors.

@x-tremespeed nice..thank you for the great information

There is a recent bug on the Rustopia server that caused this. If you aren't on Rustopia, your server might have had the same issue. Replacing the storage adaptors on your input boxes should fix it.

The input box? It multiplies the amount of resources each conveyor can move. 4 storage adapters means 4x the resources moved!

Aw man! Well there goes my next week of free time 😢 Jokes aside, that has the same effect as if your igniters got destroyed. If you notice your furnaces aren't lighting up anymore it's time to bring out the ol' repair hammer!

Do you have links? I look forward to learning about them!

I want to revisit autocrafting again in the future!

It takes advantage of a few behaviors. First of all, conveyors can't move loot in and out of the same storage adaptor so it will always move ore from the box into the furnaces. Secondly, conveyors can only deposit ore and pick up smelted resources from furnaces. It can't pull ores out of furnaces or put already smelted resources back into them either.

@@x-tremespeed oh okay i built the same always with 2 😅 now i know thanks

@@x-tremespeed With the last update (bugged industrial) I ended up with cooked food being pulled inside my electric furnaces. That was weird ahahah

@@anorack007 Just keeping it from getting cold! haha

The maximums are so that when the smelter runs out of ore, it'll have the perfect amount of wood to smelt everything in the furnaces. If you didn't set the maximums the furnaces would become completely full with ore that would end up sitting there. Not to mention it greatly limits how quickly grubs can steal from compound furnaces.

@@x-tremespeed that’s great, but everything you do that’s not really basic in the video, I’d suggest you say a word or two as to why you do it that way.

@@kedalin Thank you, that's a good point. I'll try to be mindful of it next time!

That works too! This is to ensure you don't have ores or wood sitting in your large furnaces in the compound, waiting for grubs to steal.