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Ultimate Fake Gibson Les Paul 1959 Burst 

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Ever fancy owning a 1959 Les Paul standard burst?
Well could this be your lucky day? Or perhaps a lucky escape?
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Комментарии : 124   
@1961jscofield
@1961jscofield 8 лет назад
We missed you! Glad to see a new video from you considering your hectic schedule.
@RandySchartiger
@RandySchartiger 8 лет назад
Wow! You have a keen eye my friend! Thanks for sharing this info!
@vocalist-qw9lj
@vocalist-qw9lj 8 лет назад
good detective work! keep those videos coming happy easter to you!
@markstanford594
@markstanford594 8 лет назад
Interesting. Learned a lot today. Thanks for posting.
@CJ-rf9jm
@CJ-rf9jm 8 лет назад
BTW, can't hardly wait for the Miltons. From your 1st few prototypes you've shown I know its a guitar I'd really like to get my hands on if I possibly could.
@funeralbillii9172
@funeralbillii9172 7 лет назад
Great video, thanks for the info!! It is a beautiful guitar either way.
@thinlizzyrenegade
@thinlizzyrenegade 8 лет назад
Reall great detective work, enjoyed watching.
@mhajas725
@mhajas725 8 лет назад
Wow nice catch that was good job spotting that ☺
@lawrencegenereux8567
@lawrencegenereux8567 8 лет назад
That's some nice detective work!
@jeffersoneinstein9641
@jeffersoneinstein9641 8 лет назад
Keep up the great work, it's inspiring that you have an answer for the big business bullies. Thank you and best wishes.
@philjames1019
@philjames1019 8 лет назад
Bravo!! Good work my friend ..... elementary my dear Sceptic!!
@garytaylor1192
@garytaylor1192 8 лет назад
Wowza! Great "Sherlocking" my friend. No doubt in my mind, you made your case and I find it stunningly convincing and non-debatable. Best from the U.S.A.
@godfatherNYC
@godfatherNYC 8 лет назад
So, is it 1959 or 1957? Even those ads have it listed as different years.
@stephenquail3168
@stephenquail3168 8 лет назад
Wow ! Great work mate.
@Guitars77OA6
@Guitars77OA6 8 лет назад
I wouldn't mind if you made videos like this exposing false ebay auction guitars.
@adamlondoner
@adamlondoner 7 лет назад
Hey CGS if your interested this is still up for sale on ebay. But with some added info!
@richardbogartburke4978
@richardbogartburke4978 6 лет назад
Just went to John Miles"stranger inthe City".Surprisingly good.
@mickeykat92
@mickeykat92 7 лет назад
Notice the back of the headstock on 8:00 . The sides (L&R) are of different wood/colour. This is usually when people modify the Epiphone headstock to a Gibson. They cut the Epiphone sides and stick new wood and route is in a Gibson shape - then repaint etc. There are plenty of videos on youtube of people doing this
@markcheetah4960
@markcheetah4960 8 лет назад
I found a place with a "Fulfillment Office" based here in the United States. They're selling fake Gibsons and Rickenbacker guitars from China for about $650 (about TWICE what you'd pay if you ordered them yourself from China), and claiming they're authentic. Even worse, they're saying they can sell these instruments with such a low price because they're "cutting out the middleman." They ARE the middleman!
@rickmolyneux9031
@rickmolyneux9031 8 лет назад
Pots are dated 1989. There is no mention of the pots being changed in the description.
@anthonyduncan2425
@anthonyduncan2425 7 лет назад
I enjoyed this, good eye, very interesting.....
@Oldpigsass
@Oldpigsass 7 лет назад
Orange were in Denmark Street? Don't remember that, but I'm pretty sure they were further down Charing Cross Rd --- I know it's all been rebuilt round there, but there's still an alleyway down the side of Macari's present location and Orange would have been just the other side of where the Spanish restaurant is.
@fazboz
@fazboz 7 лет назад
Hi mate When buying theses Chinese guitars do you tell them what you want or do you just go by what's on the site. Cheers
@biggoofybastard
@biggoofybastard 8 лет назад
That's if the guitar exists at all and not just pics pulled off the net to scam people out of 50,000 pounds.
@stevenwalsh3052
@stevenwalsh3052 6 лет назад
biggoofybastard nobody would buy this guitar for that cash without checking it over in person first surely
@RedDirtRules
@RedDirtRules 7 лет назад
from my hometown. I still stop by that factory often
@jamiedavies8827
@jamiedavies8827 8 лет назад
nice one detective. im after a lefthanded les paul type guitar maple top
@Lex10999
@Lex10999 8 лет назад
Good luck to you with Gibson. I sure hope you win. You never did anything wrong. You have been always up front about everything you do. I'm sorry they are trying to hurt you. That isn't right. Take care :)
@wadewilson6082
@wadewilson6082 8 лет назад
It's top wrapped in both pics too with identical wear patterns.
@mordokch
@mordokch 6 лет назад
I might be able to shed a little light on this. I live in the Uk, and back in the mid to late 90's I had one of these. It wasn't 100% exactly this guitar, but the similarities make me think it was from the same source. Ok ... so they are not gibsons at all - absolutely nothing on these guitars is real gibson. They are hand made replicas, I believe the term is 'ghost built', of existing guitars. They are made by some English dude, but I can't remember the name - I was told he had built guitars like this for some very famous people. My les paul was absolutely stunning in EVERY respect - the best les paul I ever owned and one of the most regretted sales I ever made. I got it ridiculously cheap from a guy who's parents where super rich and just bought him anything he wanted - the guy just didn't give a toss lol. Think I paid about £400 for it - sold it for way more but still wish I didn't. If I'm right then it's not worth 50 grand, but it probably is an amazing guitar !
@jeffjlake
@jeffjlake 6 лет назад
Peter Max
@MrGavinspoppop
@MrGavinspoppop 8 лет назад
At 8:46 ... looking at the "letter" ... is states that it is a 1968 "converted " to look like a 1958 ... so it is obviously a fake ... good work mate !!!
@cruzthree8883
@cruzthree8883 8 лет назад
good detective work. can't wait to see what's happening with Gips'ums lawyers
@stevenedwards4470
@stevenedwards4470 7 лет назад
It said in that forum that it was a converted 68...and had previously been advertised on ebay as a 57. Why didn't you address that as you went along?
@dalepal
@dalepal 8 лет назад
Good catch. I don’t understand why anyone would buy a £50,000 guitar on eBay sight unseen and without further verification it is exactly as described.
@murfdog19
@murfdog19 7 лет назад
Looks like a conversion. There were many 1968 model and even mid '50s models that were professionally converted to 1959 specifications.
@WickedFesterBand
@WickedFesterBand 8 лет назад
Very interesting!
@jfr04
@jfr04 8 лет назад
Good catch! Maybe if Gibson wasn't going after you, they would be on to these big time scammers.
@Professortekkit532
@Professortekkit532 7 лет назад
On mylespaulforum it was described as a 1957 les paul burst and I think they only introduced the burst finish in 1958
@clayjr67
@clayjr67 8 лет назад
What's up have been trying to goggle hang out , have a great easter talk to u soon .
@paulkelcher824
@paulkelcher824 8 лет назад
Shouldn't it say " letter of provenance" instead of 'Letter of providence " ? A google search say's so and so does Antiques Roadshow :-) A dead giveaway that its a fake ad I reckon .
@crobulari2328
@crobulari2328 8 лет назад
+Paul Kelcher Yes Paul, Provenance means origin or source. Providence means destiny or fate. The letter if genuine would state.... letter of provenance. Well done Paul, I just looked it up. You take the Kudos for that one !!.
@crobulari2328
@crobulari2328 8 лет назад
+Crobular I I would think that is a Gibson of some sort. The letter and Ser. No. Don`t ring true at all.
@bandols
@bandols 8 лет назад
Kind of funny to see a post on a forum I made many years ago. I'm the guy on the form with the baby prof pic and the mad max guitar signature.
@volksyes9477
@volksyes9477 6 лет назад
Gibson made a Copy of a Copy of a lespaul.. the slash AFD comes to mind because the original was a Derrig but I did remember he also used a Max?
@RustyFerretStudios
@RustyFerretStudios 8 лет назад
Woah that was impressive! I would agree that that guitar is the best fake I've seen.
@rogerthehat
@rogerthehat 8 лет назад
I had my suspicions when I saw it on there last year
@dragan4658
@dragan4658 4 года назад
Master guitar builder Peter Max Baranat was evidently the maker of the best copie of the 59 Gibson LP burst.
@JohnnyBGood-ii8kt
@JohnnyBGood-ii8kt 5 лет назад
I would agree!
@rockhoundingeasternwashing5308
Seems to me it would be very difficult to remove the stamped number on the headstock then re-stamp a different number onto or into the wood. I suppose the stamping part would be simple enough, but, what about the clear coat finish and stain in the wood. If that number has been altered, someone did one hell of an excellent job of it! But then again, for $80,000 one could do a great fake out job. Interesting video though. Thanks!
@syncro16se
@syncro16se 6 лет назад
The ageing is pretty well done, but maybe overdone.. Is it plausible that the backside is so badly bashed, but the front veneer has been kept in a rather good condition with just minor dings ?
@crashastanford1902
@crashastanford1902 8 лет назад
Keep at them mate. As we say down here in Oz, "Don't let the b*****d beat ya"
@carlosdasilva
@carlosdasilva 8 лет назад
Keep pumping out your videos. I will call you the FAKE GUITAR HUNTER haha. It is interesting to know all the fake guitar products out there.
@smiley4288
@smiley4288 8 лет назад
Very funny,research is the key!!!! Lol loads Great video!!!😎
@SackKickingFatMan
@SackKickingFatMan 8 лет назад
gibson seems to be pissed off that people are not buying their over priced junk.
@SackKickingFatMan
@SackKickingFatMan 7 лет назад
Butch Edwards Would I be upset? Sure. Would/Do I understand why it is happening? Yes.
@MrGoogy007
@MrGoogy007 6 лет назад
Going off your comment it's obvious you don't own a or have played a Gibson guitar in your life!!!
@duander1
@duander1 6 лет назад
+SackKickingFatMan In Brazil everyone wants to have an American Gibson!
@nofx4981
@nofx4981 6 лет назад
Same in America, this dude must be a Chibson fan!
@ianchapman4392
@ianchapman4392 5 лет назад
can anybody direct me to a site where i can order a chinese guitar please..?
@Chinaguitarsceptic
@Chinaguitarsceptic 5 лет назад
Please think twice brother :-)
@paulmblythe43
@paulmblythe43 8 лет назад
I was looking at this auction myself only the other day. it didnt look quite right to me and id expect a real 59 would have a higher price. its Interesting what comes up on ebay from time to time. I sometimes search for a particular model and filter the results from highest to lowest for a bit of fun. ive seen more 58-60 les pauls on there than id expect to see which makes me think there are a few fakes about
@RudeMoodBand
@RudeMoodBand 8 лет назад
A nice looking guitar for sure, but that's crazy money for too many inconsistencies. I bet it wouldn't get past Joe Bonamassa either....rock on bro! :o)
@blueshowlar
@blueshowlar 5 лет назад
Hi, I love your videos. Can you recomend a store in China. I don't care about the Gibson logo. I do want a good lp style guitar. Thanks. If you can help me out. Thank you, Bill
@Chinaguitarsceptic
@Chinaguitarsceptic 5 лет назад
Thanks my friend. Sorry but I never recommend any Chinese seller as they've all let me down over time. Plus I've not bought from any for five years and they all change their store name every few weeks to shake off poor feedback. It's always a crap shoot I'm afraid, sorry. 🙁
@dragoneater6699
@dragoneater6699 8 лет назад
I own two gibson 1 is garbage the other one so so in comparison to my Korean and Indonesian guitars. so I am starting to see it depends on the Luthier not the name on the head stock. your videos make that more apparent. but also show us the problems associated with buying counterfeit or foreign guitars. on that note can't wait to add a milton to my collection keep up the good work
@thdremily
@thdremily 8 лет назад
No way! A new video from CGS!!!
@shot8unshot8un75
@shot8unshot8un75 3 года назад
Ha!! Great video.... I was just looking at this guitar on eBay. It’s 60k now though 🤣
@Chinaguitarsceptic
@Chinaguitarsceptic 3 года назад
Oh wow!
@animus13racer
@animus13racer 4 года назад
The coa said 68 converted to 59...
@gearmeister
@gearmeister 8 лет назад
Great vid. Possibly a 1960 posing as a 59. However, it's posing as a star's guitar adds more insult to collectors (who caused massive price inflation to worsen). Could this seller be the one originally scammed?
@overthehillcheapgearnoodle9990
Great job! So, that brings up some questions. You would think that Ebay would want to police this, to keep a good reputation and be legal. Do they have to report this to policing agencies? Will Gibson cry because you showed a picture of a fake? I would not put it past them! If Gibson is smart they will send you a thank you! Thanks for all you do and the great exposure of this fraud! This is the kind of work you have been doing for a long time, thank you!
@speakonianjny5004
@speakonianjny5004 7 лет назад
I thought it's illegal to sell fakes on eBay now. You'd get flagged and suspended from selling if you're caught selling fake products according to eBay's safety rules.
@niptodstan
@niptodstan 7 лет назад
It's back on eBay and there are questions and answers. He still says it's original and he dId he's taking it to Gruhn's..
@Kazahmish
@Kazahmish 8 лет назад
I really have gotten leary of Ebay lately, more and more scams and such... in fact my second to last purchase was for a dual deck cassette recorder that was supposed to be in great shape, I got it, looked perfect, and then had some RL problems arise so I didn't get a chance to use it for about 5 months, when I did, it didn't work.. opened it up to see ALL the belts were just chewed up and unusable.... but I managed to get a fairly decent deal on an Epiphone LP.. but it had some really bad scratches on the 19th+ frets.. one day I will try to fix them as a project.. but enough of that, I think this issue of Gibson is just plain old stupid.. IF I were even able to afford an actual Gibson I doubt I will ever buy one mainly because of this kind of crap they are pulling.... and.. .looking forward to Milton news... thanks man... Cheers from Georgia USA...
@MylerTotes
@MylerTotes 8 лет назад
I remember how controversial that guitar was in 2010. Its totally a replica build (but of course everyone knows that). What threw me off first was the spit in the center seam. I wouldn't be surprised if it sold for around 20K, if it were advertised as a replica.
@saulkyoda1976
@saulkyoda1976 8 лет назад
I hope that the GIBSON LAWYERS won`t bother you anymore dude
@NevaehsThriftyNiftyTreasures
@NevaehsThriftyNiftyTreasures 8 лет назад
dude.....go back to time stamp 6:25.....read the top of the letter....it says it's a 1968 converted to a 1959.....
@WFKTHETHIRD
@WFKTHETHIRD 8 лет назад
Lot's of scam artists out there unfortunately...Good job exposing this one....:-)
@maon7565
@maon7565 6 лет назад
not to mention the tune o magic is backwards
@candydormizzi2500
@candydormizzi2500 7 лет назад
Maybe you should try a custom shop no complaints here you get what you pay for
@cutsrosescents4950
@cutsrosescents4950 8 лет назад
If you can spend that kind of cash,1.you can afford to go to the seller-owner personally 2.take a Gibson freak with you.. Gibson factory could make a "Factory Authentication " service,if they don't have one already
@McFly-guitars-n-stuff
@McFly-guitars-n-stuff 7 лет назад
interesting......
@USlibertarian622
@USlibertarian622 7 лет назад
Ok, so i think I have an answer, I think this is a Pete Baranet "Max" les paul. This guy was a professional at remaking 59 les pauls even better than Gibson custom shop les pauls. Check out this reverb ad. reverb.com/item/1667774-1997-pete-baranet-max-1959-les-paul-burst-aged-by-murphy
@kevinmalone8903
@kevinmalone8903 7 лет назад
Keith sold his 59 to Mick Taylor before he became a Rolling Stone
@richcarnese150
@richcarnese150 8 лет назад
Yes...that serial number isnt the right size etc. Gibson would not have applied the number so sloppily. No doubt, some kind of modified late sixties mod. It may have even been "recapped" at some point becuase that center seam looks like a "hack" job! Cheers!
@reviewforthetube6485
@reviewforthetube6485 6 лет назад
There is actually 1 guy that was renowned for remaking 1959 les pauls and there some of the most respected guitars and they are worth anywhere from 20k to 35 k and those are replicas but alot of the artists know him hell slahs got one made for him by him so those may be repilcas but they really are woth alot of money not saying this is one of those guitars im just saying not all replicas are bad there are just a few made by a certain someone that are actually worth alot but its because the guy that did the replicas studied the 59 les paul for 20 ywars finding out what mad e it so good so when he replicated it he used everything they used even down to the same glues its crazy they auctio n for 20 to 35k and they are not real gibsons but he is nnown all over the place for the 59 les pauls he makes and the quality that goes into them some people think his 59 les pauls were better then the original and the original is known as the best sounding an dplaying guitar ever made
@jamescook4478
@jamescook4478 8 лет назад
don't get rid of the guitar, killer.... turtle wax headlight repair kit will make very quick work of most blemishes in any finish... (including color scratches) I swear by the stuff.
@DMSProduktions
@DMSProduktions 4 года назад
OUCH!
@CJ-rf9jm
@CJ-rf9jm 8 лет назад
That fake "John Miles" guitar just screams SCAM. any guitar that was genuinely owned by a famous musician expected to sell for that amount of cash wouldn't be up on an ebay sale. It would be sold through some authentic auction house. Just part of the piss poor knowledge the sheister didn't bother to research. You did the right thing exposing them, along with what Gibson itself tried to pull. After their infamous "tone polish" steaming pile of "stuff " they tried to pull last year they should be taking better care of their own reputation.
@Dav2112
@Dav2112 7 лет назад
The aging on the guitar doesn't look like a nitrocellulose finished guitar which Gibson use, the way it is chipped and dinged looks like a poly finish to me. Hope someone didn't end up buying this!
@todou8122
@todou8122 6 лет назад
IN SHORT, there are tons of guitars out there as good as Gibson for way less money. Funny how just a name gets so many peoples panties in a bunch
@alexmontalvo6854
@alexmontalvo6854 8 лет назад
it's a fake guitar. Thanks for clarifying!!
@there_is_nothing_here
@there_is_nothing_here 7 лет назад
uh even if it was 1960 it would be worth a lot of money.
@taurbaby
@taurbaby 7 лет назад
fake, not fake...anyone with this kind of disposable income would most likely have enough money to have it verified by gibson themselves or some other gibson expert/historian. i would also assume they could afford a better lawyer than the people that sold it them also...better lawyer, bigger guys to break an arm...that kind of money buys alot of security.
@fretboarder4752
@fretboarder4752 7 лет назад
the best replicas are made in the uk..
@philsargeant3479
@philsargeant3479 8 лет назад
Seems to been taken of eBay
@Chinaguitarsceptic
@Chinaguitarsceptic 8 лет назад
+phil Sargeant www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gibson-Les-Paul-guitar-used-owned-played-by-John-Miles-Music-Was-My-First-Love-/322025432294?hash=item4afa3624e6
@philsargeant3479
@philsargeant3479 8 лет назад
+Chinaguitarsceptic thanks for the link have you noticed you cant ask any questions about this guitar very interesting !!!!
@phil8249
@phil8249 8 лет назад
Off
@Dav2112
@Dav2112 7 лет назад
It's still listed on eBay
@3cardmonty602
@3cardmonty602 6 лет назад
If at first you don't succeed in selling fake guitars, try, try again! Something is rotten in Denmark about this guitar.
@tomiasthexder7673
@tomiasthexder7673 8 лет назад
Seriously, who in their right mind would buy a high end guitar off the internet....you're asking to be ripped off.
@joshofcywg8162
@joshofcywg8162 6 лет назад
Les Paul’s weren’t made in the 60,s
@nitr4mmedia
@nitr4mmedia 5 лет назад
Look at the headstock (5:10). Clearly a fake, from the top to the bottom this looks like a poorly made guitar. Who passes these off as real for that amount of money? It’s ridiculous.
@ratslayer6167
@ratslayer6167 8 лет назад
lad
@glennevans5824
@glennevans5824 7 лет назад
And if you purchase a chibson what are you getting?.....microphonic squeling pickups lousy electronics terrible hardware just because it looks like an actual "Gibson"...it's just a fake and the tone will give it away.Unless your just looking for a guitar to take pictures of?......For the money your really better off getting a decent Epiphone les Paul....they are in my opinion better guitars for the money.....of course you could fit out the fake with genuine parts but then the wood ....who knows if its mahogany etc?....
@Banjoandguns
@Banjoandguns 6 лет назад
I will give you 2k today cash
@finallucario5873
@finallucario5873 6 лет назад
Who cares the fakes are just as good. The only people who mind are rich
@tonefingerz2021
@tonefingerz2021 7 лет назад
china build nuclear weapons. y wouldnt they be able to build a guitar.
@simonvanderheijden432
@simonvanderheijden432 4 года назад
A 1959 Les Paul for 50 grand? No need to do any research, it's fake. And nobody gives a shyte about John Miles...
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