Ultimate Muscle: Anime Ending vs Manga 

Anime changed it because it waa cancelled. Even this last season happened only because it was popular in the west and 4kids, I think, gave them money to finish it.

I say the plot armor was on the other side. The only time we ever see Kevin Mask lose is when his partner got knocked out in a tag team match.

But then it's leads to the question, why isn't Kevin mask the main character? It's like making a side character who can't win the main character. Seems uninteresting if they do that, and makes the winner the interesting one.

You do know the main character doesn’t always win the tournament right?

@@jerryesque3747 why should the main character always wins? the struggle of everybody else don't count? one isn't the main characther because is the best,but because the author use their point of views to tell the story

Damn no way they made Kevin mask win I watched this show as a kid and man that hurts 😂

Agreed, and if they had continued with the anime ending leading into the Akuma revival arc. It would be some months later and Mantaro got beaten by Ashuraman which would make Kevin Mask step in and have his redemption arc while Mantaro heals and also trains to overcome Asuraman. The arc would play it safe just with Kevin Mask as a Lead or a while.

Funny thing thats kinnikumans bread and butter but in nesei it really shows how different the kid is to his dad where his dad started from the very bottom and actually climbed his way up and even in the Manga where kid still used the power, of friendship/family he still had to rebuild himself from the lose kivej gave him and even created a new finisher to win after all his moves have ben rendered useless

You aware that kid muscle lost the kevin fight because he didnt trust and believe in his second right? Causing him to lose the Friendship power.

​@@TheAngelThatCry That's basically what happened in the manga but since the show got axed so they thought might as well just change the ending since they won't be able to show Mantaro/Kid Muscle character development during the Demon Seeds Arc.

It's because it's owned by Toei Animation. The series was doing very badly in Japan. It barely managed to get the finale out. Toei Animation own Sailor Moon, Dragon ball, Transformers & One Piece. They could make another season of any of these franchises and they would be more popular then an ultimate muscle reboot. Toei Animation made a killing on the toys as well, the ultimate muscle toys didn't sell well because of it's low popularity. And that's what it comes down to, which anime series makes the most $$$.

The manga was rebooted to tone down most of the stuff that happened there, since it was originally sold along with japanese "Jump playboy" if the anime had continued on, there would be stuff like the iber optic bomb that rips people's faces off, brocken jr losing his arm and so on.

The franchise is coming back, though it's going back to the original generation...and that's about all we know about the upcoming anime, that it will focus on Suguru(Kinnikuman), Robin Mask and the others, something about how they are still more popular than their kids in Japan. It's the opposite in America because Ultimate Muscle exists and has a dub, but it doesn't mean Mantaro and Kevin Mask are the biggest everywhere else, so unless the next anime has some kind of time travel story arc, they won't appear.

If they reboot anything, it will be the original. The original was more beloved than Nisei(the sequel) and indeed, the original manga was revived roughly a decade ago and is still going. Coincidentally, they're doing a Time Choujin arc, which is corssing-over with Nisei, which itself ended with a Time Choujin arc... (Nisei went on for four more stories after what we saw in the Anime)

Kinimaro sumo is pretty good

How much longer does the manga go on after this? I only watched the anime. Never finished it as a kid but now finally have after 16 years as an adult lol. I wish there were more episodes

​@@richardnixon9324 There's another 2 more story arcs after this, Demon Seed & Tag team tournament. 7 Volumes. Vol 22-29.

It's also justified from a narrative standpoint. Nisei entered the tournament on a whim, Kevin entered with a clear goal and to prove it to himself that he's not only an heir to his family but his own man.

This brings me memories nostalgia man those were the days man

lol no

so this isnt the final match in the manga?

​@@ozanozenir2503nope it goes on from here, there's a great arc where Neptuneman trains Wally Tusket to become vicious and Wally proceeds to tear through the heroes including killing Checkmate

You mean James right?

Yes, there were four more storylines they didn't get to adapt in the anime. One of them introduced Kevin's love interest and we even got a cross-over with the original via time-travel.

​@LordProteus no way is it online bro?

@@KingAntDaProphetthe series is on the Archive website

​@@KingAntDaProphet Yep, check Mangadex

Yeah, I wouldn’t say one of the two ending should be the conclusive one, I’d go either way

seems like that move should have shattered Kids spine, neck, and ass

It's basically Terry's motivation from the start of the series. Terry hating Kinnikuman always making his father place second findle making him in turn hate Kinniku. Except where we can understand Terry idolizing his father and hate how people called him Kinnikuman's partner. Robin on the other hand was only mention in the same breath as Kinnikuman for being really strong and having amazing fights against eachother regardless if outcome. It felt like they wanted to give an actual rivally between Terry and Kinniku but ended up changing it to Kevin given the great fights between Robin and Kinnikuman

@@phantomlord77 That still makes no sense since Kevin's grudge comes out of nowhere, plus early on, he hated his father, and we didn't see any reconciliation with them prior to the tournament. Kevin just seems to stop hating Robin Mask even though he has no reason to. Also, Warsman's advice is baffling. He suggests Kevin try to pull of Mantaro's mask and force him to commit suicide. That feels like that is just something done for the sake of referencing Warsman's match with Kinukuman. Except Warsman was a villain when he did that, so it doesn't make sense for him to recommend such an underhanded tactic again.

Kevin wasn't just fighting to avenge his father's loss to Kinnikuman. He was fighting to restore his family's previous status in the chojin world. Sure, Robin settled things with Kinnikuman, but his loss still badly affected the Mask family. His motivation was certainly better than Mantaro's. Kevin wasn't trying to rip off Mantaro's mask because of what happened to his dad. He wanted to be the first person to do the unthinkable and unmask a Kinniku. If he had succeeded, his family's fame would have skyrocketed. No one held Kevin's murder attempt against him because the Choujin Olympics allowed it. Plus, people wanted to see a Kinniku unmasked. Yeah, Kevin left the DMP, but he didn't instantly stop being a brutal Chojin. I mean, the guy nearly killed Turbinski in his previous match. Robin Mask's time as a villain is usually brought up whenever there's a big moment with Warsman. It's not brought up often, but it's brought up nonetheless. I don't see why it wouldn't be referenced in a big match such as this.

@@ZenkuTheories I don't see why he cared about his family status when his father's concern with that legacy is what robbed Kevin of his childhood. When we were introduced to him he hated his family legacy and joined the DMP as a result, leaving not because any Justice Chojin ideals won him over, but because he saw the DMP were honorless brutes who only cared about winning with even the lives of their own meaning nothing. We never see any sort of reconciliation between Kevin and Robin. In fact Kevin seems to show more respect of Mantaro than he does his own father. And of course, everyone just forgives Kevin despite him ripping a man's arms in a prior match after he already won and trying to murder Mantaro. We see no signs of regret for either of these things, everyone just forgives him because he decides to not be a sore winner. To be honest Robin Mask's time as a villain never made any sense. We got that he was sore about his loss to Kinnikuman. Except in the arc where he returned he also saved Kinnukuman's life, even if he was willing to go to extremes to do it, he wanted to win cleanly and still had his sense of honor. In the following arc, Robin Mask was instead written as a heartless abuser who ordered Warsman to strike one of his fans, a kid no less. Warsman's character was realizing how Robin Mask was a cruel man who just saw him as a tool of his revenge against Kinnukuman and stood up to him while also befriending Kinnukuman. When Robin Mask appeared in again after the arc, his time as a villain is never brought up, he's just treated as though he's one of the good guys. Given that villainous role was never brought up again it would make more sense if Warsman's trainer was an unrelated villain since he's just suddenly forgiven Robin Mask like everyone else did. Nothing is done to show him transitioning away from being evil, it just happens.

This was my childhood lol

😅

Especially by someone who spends most of his time partying Hardwork>>>>>>

nope the manga ending is trash. sorry, kid.

Manga ending feels so genuine while the anime feels really forced and fake. Sorry kid.

@Foxpips true that. The manga ending is super outside the box for a Shonen, and at the same time hyper realistic. Hard work SHOULD pay, and Kevin is all about hard work, unlike Kid. Kid losing is the thing that causes his growth into a worthwhile character - losing is often far more good for someone than winning.

The ending of the match in the manga was better, Kevin was the better wrestler and it taught a good lesson of you don't win just cause you're "the good guy" the better man wins and even though Kevin wins he realises he has made his best match because kid pushed him to his limits. Kid fought till the end, his mind was still fighting but his body gave out. If the Anime had ended with Kevin winning I'd have been so hyped to a rematch later on between the two and have Kid become more serious in his training to defeat Kevin. The rivalry between the Kinnikuman and the Masks could've become competitive and showed great sportsmanship instead of standard two families who hate each other.

@@killcam109 That is all just your own opinion. I disagree with it all for personal reasons. If the anime ended the way the match did in the manga, I wouldn't bother rewatching the anime.

These were the days man brings back memories I might read the manga

Canon ending cope

@@bryan3021 they're both canon lmao

In the manga at least, it's not the final fight and there's more arcs after that. His defeat against Kevin does shake things up a little in the next arc, since Kid ends up being really insecure of his own strength, and he can't get used to the fact that he's no longer seen as the strongest, instead everyone is relying on Kevin to defeat the new antagonist because he is the world champion and Kid is seen as merely his sidekick. What's worse is that Kevin really acts heroic and wants to save Meat to make up for all the bad things he's done before, but Kid is acting selfish and doesn't want Kevin's help because he fears that Meat may end up liking Kevin more than him if that happens, and then he would've truly lost everything

@@lechatnoir3042 What was the final fight and who was the last antagonist then?

@@EvilGeniusRANIK The manga is divided into 2 parts The final fight of the first part was a tag match between The Young Masters (Kid Muscle and Kevin) and The Demolitions (Ashuraman and Voltman). Ashuraman and Voltman are members of the Demon Seeds, a group of devil chojin who seek to sacrifice Meat's body to bring back their leader, Akuma Shogun (arguably the most iconic antagonist of the original Kinnikuman manga). Ashuraman is also a character from the original Kinnikuman manga, who made a deal with the devil to regain his youth in this arc. The final fight of the second part is another tag match (the entire arc is one big tag tournament) between The Young Masters and the Five Disasters (Lightning & Thunder). Lightning and Thunder are "time chojin" who traveled back in time in order to kill Robin Mask and the rest of the legends in the past to change history. They've got time manipulating abilities, the most annoying of which is their ability to rewind their bodies to undo any damage they take.

Obviously manga Kevin did a lot of hardwork Also he discarded his dad money and lead his own way he is the real hero

I prefers tea

Hard work always wins manga is superior

Yeah, because it was the final episode they'd make, and wanted it to end on a happy note.

In my opinion they wanted to do two alternative endings

yes but then change by people,manga is original source so for some is more valid,anime for some is the only thing they know and their childhood ,so depend on person which is the more valid

It's more of a conclusive ending as the anime ends here. The manga leans into the next arc as kid being the underdog.

Sadly, the manga is over and they never got a rematch, but they did become good friends and teamed up a couple of times to defeat powerful enemies in tag matches 🤔 They got some really sick tag moves that combine their most powerful techniques 💪

the manga ending is trash. kevin has no motivation as a character and tries to win by murder lol

Not cool man. Remember Goku? 🤨

@@cencereevens8004 goku isn’t a pussy 99% of the time like kid muscle, do you see goku pissing himself? farting? Ditching training to party with girls????

Is the manga really better?

@@richardnixon9324 I mean, you can see for yourself, also this planted the seeds for more stories, what's more, there's two more arcs after this battle, which if you like montaro, then you see him getting what he wants. But in the anime they wanted to end it here.

@@KyosisPlays hmm, my interest is peaked. Does it only go up to 29? I search for 30 and up, and can’t find anything

@@richardnixon9324 Gotta keep looking, I can't remember what the other two are called.

@@richardnixon9324 The Demon Seed Arc and the Ultimate Choujin Tag Tournament Arc

Nah he didn’t dummy 💀💀

@@jaberali3358 yes he did,most series including this the manga is the original source,so....depend on how you see if you count the original source he did win

@@xrosso6515 nah he didn’t I don’t follow the manga. The anime has shown us why kid muscle is the true winner. That is how I see this series and so does a lot of people that kid muscle won. But hey it’s oki Kevin Is also a winner

@@jaberali3358 Kevin mask destroyed him and that’s canon cope

@@bryan3021 they're equally canon. you're embarrassing yourself, kid🤣

The anime ends here. The manga carries on for another 7 volumes. Manga is considered canon.

they're both alternate timelines. they're both approved by the creator of the manga and are equally canon. the manga ending is garbage. kevin has no actual motivation and tries to win by murder lmao

They probably changed it cause Big Bang Bash rolls off the tongue better.

How much longer does the manga go on after this? I only watched the anime. Never finished it as a kid but now finally have after 16 years as an adult lol

I will the power of friendship is bullshite

@@muslim-boss9_11 lol kinda true. Haven’t read the last manga chapters. Where did you find them?

@@muslim-boss9_11 agreed it just felt like Kevin who worked hard to win was forced to lose by friendship crap when he worked his body to the limit and beyond to win...

nope the manga ending sucks. sorry, kid.

Only filler for the finale of the series. The manga of Nisei was cancelled after the Demon Seed arc, and the anime was cancelled in the middle of the chojin crown arc. Nisei anime and manga, didn’t have an audience in Japan. So the powers that be caught their losses while they could. Nisei did well in America, so 4Kids commissioned and co-produced 26 more episodes to finish the chojin crown arc. Ultimate Muscle was even added to the title in Japan. In an attempt to increase the hype and rebrand the series. Kid winning for the end of the anime makes sense to bookend the series abruptly. In the manga, Kevin becomes a better person after beating Kid, but Kid has sour grapes for awhile before he gets over losing to Kevin. The tag team matches against Reborn Asuraman and Thunder/Lightning fully bury the animosity between the two in the manga.

they're equally canon. the manga ending is garbage. you're embarrassing yourself, kid.

@@crushedscouter9522 “manga ending” you do realise the story continues after this fight unlike the anime which just disappeared into nothingness lol

@@bryan3021 you do realize that has nothing to do with the ending of this arc right? Lol you're embarrassing yourself, kid

@@crushedscouter9522 what happens after kid muscle wins?

well basically kid is too lazy for the training part and kevin is more effort than him so i don't think kid's lose will be bad for himself

The anime ended early, so they had to give it a happy ending. The manga's story continues after this arc (this is chapter 211 of the manga, which ended up having 610 chapters)