Edit...didn’t notice I placed my comment under someone’s else comment thread... Vertical benefits... 1) as you said single operator designed and less trash 2) options to split wood any dimension and not have to change wedge. 3) once wood is on table rarely will you ever be picking it off the ground...on other side of machine... 4) Elevator... nuf said Vertical drawbacks... 1) Limited speed. As you said the horz. With right setup can be a production king 2) larger footprint 3) maybe a touch less safe??...Debatable. I gotta trash them a little bit cause my uncle built a clone vertical and we trash talk each other. His does work good...[but not as good as mine]😆😆
Great video! I'm glad to see the comparison. The Axis looks like its perfect for your application. You have tremendous control and less waste. You achieved great consistency and results for bundle wood with both splitters.
I like the Eastonmqde Axis better because you get a cleaner cut than the 1220. I'm a baker, so to me presentation is everything. Even though I live in sunny CA, I still enjoy watching your channel. 😊
If you don’t mind me asking what drew you to the channel if you don’t know much about firewood? I’d like to try to welcome more people like you to the firewood community. Thanks!
@@HometownAcres It first came about when I came across your channel and you were explaining how you first started selling wood from your house property then moving to where you are know expanding plus it’s the way you explain in detail to the viewers like myself . I’m born and breed in inner city London I’m retired but when young boy growing up we had a coal fire like everyone but has things improved a push button gas central heating hope I haven’t bored you .
GREAT VIDEO ADAM !! Im looking forward to watching the upcoming videos on your new Axis ,Great Comparison !. I have the 12-22 and really like it ,would be great to have a small conveyor for it similar to the Axis , it splits wood so fast you need one to get it out of the way !! , Knowing Andrew it wont be long before there will be one for it as an add on. On a side note you just got the Axis and it looked as though you were right at home with it .That says alot about the design . It seems to be super precise and makes very uniform wood . The Eastonmade Axis seems to take the fatigue out of doing your wood . I like the fact of not bending over I could see owning both ! Take care
An excellent apples to apples comparison ... good job. I too would choose the Axis for its horizontal work table and vertical splitting ram ... far less physical effort required.
Hi Adam, good comparison and I think your findings hit the nail on the head. It’s not just about how quick you can process a few rounds, the more important question is can you work comfortably/easily for a few hours or even all day? Does the vertical machine have a height adjustable bed or can the ram start position be lowered? I’m guessing not, it looks like the cylinder has a fixed travel.
For the Eastonmade Axis, I've seen others stack several rounds on the lift, bringing it to level, and sliding them under the splitter which could save a minute or two, but two great examples of great machines doing a fantastic job as a money making machine.
Nice set up and I love the bins.. I'm using a box wedge design for my pine bundles. It produces a great product though its very messy, lots of cleanup... For hardwood I switch to a 12× wedge which is super fast. I bought the bundler from Johns Welding on Ebay, its great.
very cool splitter! I just saw the axis run on Buckin' Billy Ray's channel the other day. I thought it looked a little slow, but its gotta be nice to work upright at bench height vs lower with other splitters.
That comparison was good for a ten minute sprint, but my guess is it would even take an hour for the operator of the 10-22 to start slowing down while the Axis operator hadn't even broken a sweat.
I don’t understand why you didn’t load up the log lift. On the first machine. I watched Buckin Billy yesterday on the same machine . He didn’t time it, but he worked much faster. They are both great machines. My body can only go so fast, speed really isn’t an issue with me. Work hard and do what you can in a day. Any splitter will decrease your time over a maul unless you’re “Buckin”. Good video Buddy! Thanks for sharing
For your situation Axis hands down. Not bending near as much, wood size is more consistent, conveyor, and other things I may have missed. Love the wood videos.
So if this was a 2 person job, the one with the conveyor I think would be at an advantage, especially if you lower the conveyor belt and push your wood towards a secondary work area with the wrapper. Then you can do your bundles at the same time. All you need now is someone or something that will automatically receive wood from the conveyor and wrap it automatically, and drop it into your bin, then you're all set to tackle an entire forest! :)
Excellent...thanks for this!! That's what I was thinking;If I'm by myself all day, the Axis looks like it would be easier on my body. If on the other hand, I wanted full out production with a couple of other guys, their other style splitter at the end of the day, would be faster.
I love that Axis . Much more control in splitting sizes . You don't get a mess at the end of the table . Lots of room to set the bigger pieces off to one side . Andrew hit this one out of the ball park . Buckin Billy Ray has the same splitter and he loves it .Best splitter on the market by far .It's a top quality Canadian made splitter . Can't go wrong with that .
I agree- kinda like the Powersplit international’s double split with the conveyor in the middle, also can be self powering so can move into your pile, verticals can cut to customer’s size more readily than box
Splitting wood is very tiring, especially if you use an axe (enough for a homeowner I guess and really good workout 🏋🏻♂️) so with that being said I completely understand your reasoning for picking the new addition. Good luck and I really appreciate your videos 👍🏻
Hey Adam that Axis is a really nice looking splitter I’ve seen it operate before and looks to be pretty efficient. I’m still not completely sold though I may need to operate one before I get rid of the horizontal. I may have to swing by for a visit so I can get a test run. You know I’m a box wedge fan brother. Take care
I have noticed that in a couple of his videos. Several years ago there was another company making the identical vertical splitter with the foot pedal....an operator lost his fingers when a large splinter of wood was laying up on the pedal and he did not notice it. He stepped on the stick, the stick pushed down the pedal and because of poor personal attention his hand was on top of a log in the line of fire.
@@md6397 When you've been working firewood for as long as many of us older gen folks have, you're bound to know at least a few people whom are missing body parts because they thought they would never be so dumb as to cut their own hand off. I know several and I'm proud to say I'm not one of them. The 1st) best way to cut your fingers off while splitting is to keep holding the buck ends of the log , the 2nd) is to have that bad habbit and let someone else run the controls.
Yup, I myself got complacent and all but sliced off my right index finger while using an AnericanCLS 4× wedge, all my fault. Fortunately it was saved, no amputation required but it was touch and go for a time.... Hopfully this guy wakes up to this safety issue but not many guys do until its to late.
As I watched the whole comparison I was picturing some sort of homemade chute on the 12-22 to save what seemed to be the time consuming part of the comparison. The schute would start just behind the wedge and go to the entrance of the i.b.c so that the operator let's the 2nd log push the 1st log towards the I.B.C, and so on with all the split logs. I see that the oversized split logs need resplitting so side to the chute would be needed to enable the operator to see the oversized split logs, but let the correct sized split logs just push each other along, with the help of the hydrolic ram, across to the i.b.c, saving the operator time. I'd like any feedback you have on this idea Adam. With the Axis I can see 9 or 12 I.B.C's waiting in a 3by3 or 3by4 grid formation for the lone operator to do hours of splitting before fork-lifting the i.b.c's away for storage or sale/delivery.
Wondering why you split everything so small? I'm on the west coast and I would call that making kindling. We make pie shaped pieces like the horizontal splitter was making on the first run through. I'd say you get a better burn time out of the larger pieces, I mostly burn red fir but get some locust and maple too. Great video
Just loaded up the video and this is exactly the comparison I need. I want Eastonmade quality but debating between vertical and horizontal and I use totes....bring on the splittin' OK, watched the video and I'm even more "split" on my decision. A factor I would weigh-in is the level of noise reaching the operator. It would appear that the axis motor is more shielded from the operator and make it quieter to run? Also, the 12-22 would be tempting to rev higher (noisier) as you shouldn't have your hands on the round when it is cycling. A simple way to make the 12-22 more efficient would be to have a grade difference between the splitter and the totes. You would need to construct a retaining wall with about a 3-foot drop so that the splits would push off the pan and fall into the tote without the need for a conveyor. That would work if you have a dedicated woodlot and not for temporary setups obviously. Still weighing the two. They don't make it easy.
Haha I would get shot for splitting bits this small. We usually run it so if its about the same size as your hand stretched out, send it, if its any bigger give it a split. This is what we'd have as kindling. This is in Australia. Apparently people like decent sized bits of wood here. Is the demand different there?
I think I would like the 12-22 with a conveyor. Maybe someday. My splitter and my maul works for now. The axis is very nice. Looks easy on the back and it can do custom splitting.
You can do in 7 hours and 12 minutes with the 12-22 what it takes 8 hours to do with the axis. However, you can probably save some time on the axis by not throwing your wood on the conveyor. Just push it to the left and as you spit more wood the older wood will eventually get pushed into the conveyor. Saving just that little bit of motion and time will add up over time.
I’d like to know the price difference between the 2 machines. The 12-22 with the box wedge and 4way vs the Access. It will also be interesting to see the cost of maintenance over time. You have more moving parts now then with the 12-22.
Nice vid. you’ve put hundred of hrs on the horizontal and getting the hang of the vertical. I’ll bet you’ll find you won’t need to go more than 50% deep on most of the straight grained stuff w the vert (especially that which gets turned 90deg for the cross/final split) and you will bring that time down 10-20%... and have a lot less “byproduct” to shovel up afterwards! 👍
For bundle wood it's definitely one of the best choices Id say! Says a lot that you went with the same brand again! I wonder how a huge gnarly piece can get handled, since you get those, too. Is your supply from the tree service/his old yard still enough to keep up your demand or do you plan to eventually buy a trailer load or something?
Hi in this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HfKvsKsvXzU.html about 10 minutes in the guy does some large stringy rounds with this model of splitter
Let me ask you I have an outdoor boiler and my old splitter is worn out. I havent been splitting wood just cut small for the boiler. But I have a lot of Big 30 plus pine that drops of from tree Smiths. What kind of splitter since you used both do you think is better for this situation? I work by myself with it all.
I didn’t make a video of him coming to get it. The closest thing I have is a picture of him all loaded up. Gentlemen from Illinois bought it. He drove 9 hours 1 way to pick it up
Adam, I guessed the conveyor, but missed the Axis. I didn't see it on the Easton website. Must be old age. Did you see any kilns of use on the Wood-Mizer website? Patrick PS Do you know what the Firewood Guy charges for the vinyl pallet covers? Can't find them on his website. Man I could sell thousands of those kiln dried pallets in New York City to upper east side and west side co- op buildings. The compact size and kiln dried insect free would garner a premium price.
@@HometownAcres I meant the wood filled pallets. If you look on his Facebook he has photos of his wood filled pallets with stretch film outside the restaurants he supplies covered with Green Vinyl covers with his company name silk screened on them. Those $185.00 wood filled pallets could sell for at least $250.00 on the upper east side,upper west side and in the Hamptons. I have cousins and friends who live there. They have more money than sense, but will pay for quality and convenience.
I think I would have just tilted the basket under the table of the 12/22 and the wood is fed directly into the basket only the last 20% or so would need to be tossed in. The12/22 would jump ahead if you did that. I would not bother with stacking into a basket just buy a few extra baskets if you need more capacity. All comes down to time and what value you place on yours.
The Axis will really come into it's own when you have big wood like 2-4ft diameter. There is no manhandling of huge pieces of wood from past the wedge back to be split again like on horizontal splitters.
@@HometownAcres That sounds about right. That's roughly 1 hour per cord, whereas my traditional horizontal splitter takes about 2 hours per cord. So either of these would be a 50% reduction in splitting labor time.
Great to see you enjoy working with the new splitter. 👍 The only thing I'm wondering is if the conveyor really makes a big difference in this specific setup? I mean you still have to push the split logs onto the conveyor, so you also could push / throw it directly into the basket instead when placing it right next to the table and don't have additional parts (the conveyer) that could break some day? Don't get me wrong, I never worked with anything like this so I may not judge, I'm just a fan of keeping it simple, so I'm curious. Greetings from Germany ✌
12-22 vs The Axis if your doing production or splitting cords of wood the 12-22 is the way to go, if you doing bundle wood or boiler wood by your self the axis is the way to go it produces better wood the the 12-22,
Very good comparison! 1 minute difference, but easier on back - a good trade off. Too bad my shed only has less than 7’ high door, axis would be great.
The speed of the Axis can be slightly increased by adjusting the ram return limiter. I noticed that you had the ram set to return right to the top of it’s stroke each time it cycled. This may be more of a noticeable speed advantage if you were doing several chords in a sitting, as opposed to just a small demonstration such as this. Nice video, thanks.
I don’t. For me once you get into a processor I think the love of cutting firewood goes away and it turns into a job. I like running chainsaws and log splitters. I think a processor would take a lot of the fun out of it. If I was selling wood to feed my family it might be different but it’s just a hobby for me
Hometown Acres I was at the same point you are at. And then I saw opportunity to sell more firewood in my area that’s when I decided to go to a processor just to help speed things up it’s not my primary business so I needed to figure out how to lighten the workload
I don’t think there’s any difference in time comparing stacking to conveyor. You’re still handling every piece by throwing it into conveyor. Pretty much same motion throwing it into bin.
