Umebura 10 Winners Finals - Acola (Steve) Vs. Glutonny (Wario) Smash Ultimate - SSBU 

that would be balancing, not design

🤓 @@nathanlevesque7812

Minecart does 24% if steve has full material, otherwise like 12%.

@@nathanlevesque7812 shut up

@@Johnny-Badhair no u

Losers 7ths not Quarters but yeah Glutonny already showed signs of victory as he’s beaten every bracket demon before except Acola but it’s getting close Just hope that it won’t go to game 5 though…

​@Alibaba-id1cs Wait HES BEATEN SHUTON?

@@russianspy4989 Glutonny has technically taken one set off Shuton, but it was a bracket reset in grand finals at a tournament in 2019. Surprisingly, they only fought once last year.

​@freudia I found the set record but he was struggling with him in 2022

def down to last hit consistently and that's as competitive as anything gets

I mean Gluttony extended his hurtbox with bair

​@@bluprintdhd4569right. I was gonna say Nair but the animation is to fast to tell. I just see his jump into Acola and assumed Nair.

​@@bluprintdhd4569true but the disjoint still has an insanely large and lingering hitbox, especially for a move as strong as bowser's forward smash, and the fact that wario is super stubby with no disjoint except fair that has a minuscule hitbox doesn't help the comparison

Yeah, it's really sad. I'm not here to blame Acola or Steve, it's Nintendo's fault for not balancing the character. Like, Gluto hit so much insane stuff, yet he loses because not even the extremely powerful waft can rival such a OP moveset. Half the set was just Minecart->Anvil, and there is pretty much nothing Wario can do against that. Punishing this is super risky, because for whatever reason both Minecart and Anvil hit like fucking Ganondorf, and that's just the start. Up-tilt, (especially diamond) back-air, and neutral-b are just as insane. Again, i'm not here to hate on Acola or Steve, Acola definitely has skill, he would not be top 3 no matter how broken the character is otherwise, but this just hurts to watch. Nintendo should just release a final patch and tone the power down a bit, but they don't give a damn about competitive Smash....Just sad.

Either Gluttony practices all this stuff and loses to a mindless Steve mashing... ...or Acola is similarly proficient in his character and played fantastic as well. "He's playing with stage hazards always in his favor" You literally point out how busted Acola makes Steve's toolkit, and come away with "better player didn't win" 🤡 get real

​@@treycuretacola doesnt make steves toolkit seem broken, it IS broken

acola can b good and steve can also be busted....I understand that its annoying to hear ppl constantly take away from a good player but when ppl simultaneously disregard how meta changing optimal steve gameplay is, its equally as cringe. when casuals would watch season 1 happy chaos in strive, i remember all my cousins would be like...why can he just shoot ppl like that. Similarly when we play smash its like, why can steve build an entire wall in front of me that is not easily destroyed, to mine for diamond to make his toolkit even more broken, and force me to put myself at risk with absolutely no risk to himself....etc....etc. And in both cases it was like, I dont know why they can do that lol. But atleast chaos got a balance patch@@treycuret

except for the part where none of you trogs would have anything to talk about if Acola didn't play @@sagegang6957

Facts

Being the only character that can effectively alter the stage layout is definitely triggering, it's like that one guy with cheats enabled except they made it legit.

He is a middleweight actually, but that is still too heavy for a character as broken as him, even Brawl MK and Smash 4 Bayo had the weakness of being super lightweight!

the more data gluto gets, the closer he comes to victory. Acola will lose to him, and Acola is afraid of him as he lost many games to Gluto in friendlies. At Summit 6 he was asked who of the competitors in top 8 would give him the hardest time. He said Gluto. Go figure why

@@ohjonny95 Summit 6 was a while ago though, not much has changed in bracket between Acola and Gluto. If after all this time Acola keeps coming off the top everytime VS Gluto then it's clear that the outcome is never going to change. Why, because of Steve.

Para mi, ambos son geniales... ESO DEFINITIVAMENTE NO ERA UNA PELEA FÁCIL PARA ACOLA Y SE NOTABA. Pero eso es lo que Acola necesita y también Gluttony, combates "raros". Solo imagínate, hasta hace solo un año (apenas dos), NADIE ESPERABA QUE STEVE, UN PERSONAJE MEME, CASI UNA BROMA, ESTUVIERA EN EL TOP TIER, O QUE INCLUSO, DURANTE EL 2020, STEVE ESTUVIERA EN EL JUEGO SI QUIERA. Así que eso habla mucho de Acola y como NO es fácil usar Steve. Solo veo esto y me estremesco contra ese Wario... en serio. Inlcuso si jugara este juego y lo hiciera profesionalmente, este jugador me destruiría y hasta tendría miedo de enfrentarlo para empezar.

Lol, llora mas 😂

​@@Jack_Horner Lo dice el que se queja de Sonic XD Steve esta arriba de Sonic en la tier list y encima puede campear mejor Es que no tiene sentido la logica que usas lol

Lame comeback moves like waft isn’t fair either, plus it’s boring to watch.

@@Jack_Horner yeah i guess but waft is a move u can use once per game, steves whole kit is beyomd broken and gimmicky

Yeah lame ass character

pure fantasy

No, is not that simple... XD Acola SUFFERED HERE and IT SHOWS. Gluttony played too well and left the game very close between the two. Respect for both Acola and Gluttony. It gives me a strange happiness to see that a MEME like Steve is earning so much. :) Although, many in SSBU are meme or cartoon characters so...

boo fucking hoo 😢

then do it

You know there's a way out of this 🤣🤣. Let's be real, you didn't study these positions and the following interactions long enough to even form a truly educated opinion on the matter.

Blocks are a double edge sword for Steve if you know how to use your characters kit to influence Steve or take advantage of his block placement like GLUTO DID BY TECHING OFF OF NEARLY BROKEN IRON BLOCK. Fact is Steve is only overwhelming if you lack the mental capacity, fortitude, and stamina to deal with him. And that's only if the guy playing him is a master pilot with a deep understanding of fundies. Our community literally accepts that playing wario is like playing a stock down. The best Pikachu player who is also the most aggressive had to run from him to win because wario's movement and frame data is too much for Pikachu?! And that's probably the lowest character in the tier list of characters that Steve has to plan around. How about Pikachu?! No way in hell can ACOLA HIMSELF mine with my pika on the stage. Hell he's combo food for both my Pikachu and my Link.

@@s3eriousbl9ck26 ok buddy

​@@s3eriousbl9ck26I'm sorry but have you watched the match. Yes blocks do have a downside and that's that Wario Can tech of them, but so Can Steve, and on top of that Steve Can replenish his materials to get more anvils and Minecraft and blocks and wait for Wario to throw out an option. Camping does have a single downside but it's way more advantageous for Steve to camp

​@@s3eriousbl9ck26he prob can

It’s actually an omori reference! He said it in his winners interview.

Although the RU-vid comments are insufferable as hell man.

It’s true. As a player he lacks the adaptability that most players have, he just doesn’t need to, and that’s due to using Steve’s overwhelming brokenness and seeing constant success. He can just execute a series of broken moves over and over and eventually pull off wins. Whether that’s 0-death strings into an up smash when the opponent blinks, gimps with broken interactions with his broken tools, living out stocks due to his weight and ability to setup a pillar and not get flung.. the list goes on. He hasn’t been able to compete at a super high level with other characters, he’s missing the key element of players which I find most entertaining about watching these high level matches and that’s the adaptations

@@walkerscoral I find comments like this hilarious. Especially when Acola is known for his insane adaptation. And he's done fine. And he does pretty well with several of his other pics. The ones they don't work out on are literally top of the top players, and even then he adapts well to them.

I'm tired of these comments. Every top player is carried by their characters, where would Gluto be without wafts? Light without Fox? If Steve carries so hard why isn't everyone using it? Doesn't every pro player wanna win? Why is there only a single Steve having success at top level?

@CrowbornChaos If his adaptation is so insane, then why do all of his characters that aren't Steve get rolled by other top playere? Winning against some random person in pools is not a valid argument. Every time he uses Kazuya or Aegis or DK against a top player he gets steamrolled. Sure there are a couple times he pulled off a win but the exception doesn't make the rule. Do you honestly think his Aegis or Kazuya would do as well against players like Gluto or Webb? Don't be ridiculous

@Pakitorocker Yeah Waft is good and Fox is good but are you really trying to put them on the same level as Steve? You're trying to defend a character that literally breaks the game. Also, Gluto has been playing Wario since Brawl and Light has been playing Fox since early Smash 4 while Acola didn't come into prominence until after Steve released. Make that make sense. And furthermore, it isn't JUST Acola that gets results with Steve. Onin? Jake? DDee? Even Dabuz and Peanut are dropping their mains to pick up Steve. Just because there is only one particular player that's always in grand finals doesn't mean the character is not busted. Palutena and Rob are overtuned but Zomba is the only player who takes Rob to the top level. Same with Sonic, Game and Watch, Aegis, Joker, Roy, Peach, Cloud, and pretty much any other top tier character. Start using critical thinking

Two because Miya refuses to join Steve banned events out of principle

do we seriously want to see more Fox and Wario at top level Steve keeps them in check

​@@KingObliv I do

@@doodoo2065 yeah same Light and Gluto are some of my favorite players but I thought it'd be funnier to say popular characters instead of like GnW and Kazuya

I think people would really take a liking to him if Steve didn’t exist. It’s clear he’s a good player imo but there’s nothing wrong about what you said.

And yet, theres only one steve whos winning 😅

I stopped watching smash for like 6 months and watching Steve just pisses me right off again. Death percentage, smash attack range, and flying distance from cart all should be lowered for this damn character.

Watching bair loops and same waft combo to steal stocks at 10% is way more borring than Acola gameplay to be fair. But i agree that the French monster was way more precise than Acola, you are right on this point.

@@adrien4337 lmao sure buddy

Si fuera tanto así, por qué no hay más top players usando a Steve? Sólo los únicos top son Onin y Acola

​@@NesuProps Exacto, ese es el punto. Pero estamos hablando de SSB, una comunidad que casi siempre está en fase de negación con ciertas cosas específicas: Sí, Steve ES GENIAL, pero NO TE HACE INSTANTÁNEAMENTE DIOS. Debes SABER USARLO. Pero por eso todavía me gusta más este personaje: ES UN MEME VIVIENTE DE FORMA CÚBICA QUE UN DÍA ENTRO Y DEMOSTRÓ SER BUENO CON LO QUE HACE SIEMPRE EN SU JUEGO BASE, SABIENDO LO MALA QUE ES SU MOVILIDAD GENERAL (pero aún así me parece gracioso ese detalle XD). En todo caso, la gente debería culpar al juego, no a Acola y su elección por este personaje. Cada uno elige lo que quiere en este juego, aunque sea o no de agrado. Además ¿Esto acaso ya no pasó antes con otros Smashes anteriores y ciertos personajes rotos NUNCA se banearon? Yo creo, personalmente, que la comunidad se queja y envalentona SOLO AHORA CONTRA STEVE, PORQUE TIENEN LA SEGURIDAD DE LAS REDES SOCIALES Y SE SIENTEN CON POTESTA DE SER JUEZ, JURADO Y VERDUGO... por que sí. En la vida real, ni dirían pio. Por cierto, nunca aceptarán el cambio o el hecho de que, aún si tienen razón en algunas cosas, muchas otras ESTÁN MAL. Pero, coml siempre se dice, cada comunidad tiene su parte tóxica, sea cual sea esa comunidad.

​@@asterlofts1565 La gente se quejaba pero no los baneaban, justamente quieren banear a steve para que no se repita la misma historia XD

見るの辛くなっちゃった

@@KenCampbell-qv3mtおならコンボとか、バイク投げがぶっ刺さってるの見抜いたりとか試合中でも成長を見せたのマジで凄かったんだけどなぁ

Hurtbox extension. Gluto backair’d

He was busted but Nintendo nerfed him

Jahzzo also did that

@@armakeen3576Jahzzo and Acola are the parrying goats. Nobody else does it like them

He didn't parry Waft on purpose. He was just trying to shield and got lucky. I main Marth and people "parry" my shield breaker all the time on accident when they actually should get a broken shield.

@@AnenLaylle7023 He probably intentionnally parried. But he didn't expect to parry the waft of all things.

@@legrandliseurtri7495 Nah, he was just shielding quickly. I parry by accident all the time. I never correct my opponent when they say nice parry though. Mind games. I wonder if anyone has asked Acola if he did it on purpose. He would probably cap, I know I would. Anyways, it isn't just Steve that is broken, Acola is broken with the character.

@@AnenLaylle7023just because you parry accidentally doesn’t mean a player who plays this game for a living actually did it on purpose. Personally, I think he mean’t to parry a frame 4 nair out of shield from Gluto but he got a waft parry instead, he did a good play and got good luck on Gluto’s option. Acola is carried but you don’t have to make it so every option he makes is “accidental” and “no skill”, he still pulls off skilled plays.

@@farewell418 Acola is a teenager, he doesn't do anything for a living. You really think these people are better at the game than they actually are. I've beaten numerous pros at this game, I know exactly how good they are in general, and it's not as good as you'd expect. They are beatable and human. He did not parry that Waft on purpose.

Glutto extended his hurtbox by throwing out back air.

Agreed!

Honestly it's the TOs. You make a community poll with 100% of the community and they'd be in favour of a ban but the TOs for some reason don't think so.

@@joshfrey6315Because they don’t have to deal with it. So they don’t care.

You've got a pretty flawed mindset there, sure there's only one top top player using the character, but is that really the ONLY criteria? What about the competitive scene at lower levels that have tons of Steve's running rampant? The issue with the character is he's not healthy for the game. People who defend the character are either braindead or too egotistical

@@joecool4872 I am not talking about the lower level tournaments though, and, to be fair, I should have made that more clear. Strictly talking about majors and super majors (and I suppose larger regionals). If the lower level Steve epidemic is as bad as you say then sure: ban him at lower levels. For the record, I am neither confirming or denying that this is the case, I really do not know. And yes: I do think it is a very important criteria that there be multiple dominant players. If not, how can you say it is the character and not the player? You could argue that Acola playing as another character would not be winning tournaments like he does, but that would be a flawed argument because the same could be said about many top players (ie. Gluttony without Wario). And again, I would point to Hbox. Can you imagine if the melee community banned Jigglypuff when Hungrybox was at the height of his power? It would have been a little ridiculous. Now, to give credit to people like you who want Steve banned, it should be noted that a character can have moves/mechanics that are broken in a vacuum, and Steve does. But I don't know, until other people can effectively exploit them, it feels like a wider Steve ban is just punishing Acola for being the best player with the best character. And while I appreciate your discourse being mostly civil, I wonder then: am I brain-dead or arrogant or both? And if it helps you narrow it down any, I should say that I am not a Steve main and I do not play at an extremely competitive level, and so I have nothing to gain from Steve being kept unbanned and I would never claim that I am too good to lose to Steve players.

They are just jealous because acola the goat

@@DavionLaneidk about the goat, but he’s an amazing player

@@linkjmc5683 Banning a character at one level and not another doesn't make much sense, especially given at what line do you draw that line? Banning him strictly at locals doesn't do much to solve the issue that is Steve. I don't think we can only look at a single skill level or group to make a decision, you have to look at the whole picture. For competitive Smash to work as a spectator sport in which people can make actually good money off winning you need to consider players at all levels as well as spectators, and the issue is that Steve does not create a healthy competitive game for any of them. Part of the reason we only see one top level player use Steve is because most other players don't like using him despite him being very much the best character in the game. His mechanics break the game on a fundamental level, he has many over tuned and busted options that allows him lose interactions yet still come out on top or just be completely safe while mining, and he forces the other player to play a completely different game for extended periods of time that bores both the player and spectators. I personally am never a strong believer of banning characters in most cases, yet Nintendo is never going to nerf him and he is a genuine problem for the competitive scene, and if you can't see that I don't think you fully understand the game beyond the surface level

He lost to miya for 3rd

@@airhead5068he did beat MiYa in top 8 though, and their last set in Rise n Grind 2023 was very rough for Gluto. I know this isn’t what you mean’t, but I just wanted to share how happy I am that Gluto learned the matchup against G&W

@@farewell418 it was mainly talking about how gluto didnt end up getting a chance to get revenge because of miyas adaptations to him in losers

Steve can’t carry your noob azz. Stfu, cry more.

A match without Steve.

Gluto is def top 5 rn but I wouldn’t call him the best player. He lacks the amount of major wins that the four horsemen have, with only one under his belt

​@@mercurysnake274 Im pretty sure OP meant best player as in "the best player between the two in this match"

@@doodoo2065 They’re still not correct. Acola’s results are better than Gluto’s

Exactly

I’m pretty sure he mean’t to parry the frame 4 nair out of shield, but something in this game we like to call “we take those” is what happens in these kind of situations. He might’ve tried to parry an up tilt, nair, or maybe even waft who knows, but either way it’s a great play by Acola.

@@farewell418Parry a nair out of shield? Gluto was not shielding my good sir

If it even comes out, it isn’t confirmed yet.

Raah dude, when you can build your own stage on the stage and stop your fall, or block the access to the stage with blocks that's not fair in my opinion :/ But I respect yours also !

Blaming the character to undermine Acola's performance is not fine, Acola is great. But saying Steve is broken is just a fact. So many top players have been saying this, Steve just has too many options, too many favorable situations, way too much control in neutral, way too safe options in terms of risk rewards. Gluto described it like this : "some characters you just have to play against them to understand how to counter them, for instance, people thought Roy was broken but we just did not know how to counter him. Steve, we know how to play against him, but we just can't. Even if he tells you his next moves, you are likely to lose the interaction". There is not a single world in which Steve is not absolutely broken.

Critican a Acola porque si bien es buen jugador, en sets como estos ves que no esta ganando el mejor jugador. Glutto casi no cometio errores y aun asi termino perdiendo, es claro que estaba jugando mejor que Acola y termino perdiendo Igual pierdo mi tiempo, la comunidad de smash no entiende la idea de banear personajes

If you arent a good cook you cant complain for being served dog shit in a restaurant i guess

😂😂😂😂

@@chrisprettysaucy7521 😏

Pretty sure Gluttony isn't even american, but aight.

@@joecool4872”american nobodies in the *comment section* “

​@@farewell418 Pretty sure not only americans want steve banned. The world aint just america.

I kind of agree. Acola is the only top steve player. (Except for miya but he got all of his results from mr game and watch)

People arent saying acola is bad, just steve is so busted. Yeah ofc steve without mats and tools is terrible, but he gets mats so fast. Not to mention he can place a wall and camp while he mines mats. Also his movement stats arent really shit except his jump, and it doesnt matter that much when he has arguably the best kit in the game.

@@pooking7i631 man stop. Ill acknowledge some see he actually is very good at Smash in general. But the overwhelming majority is discrediting a kid for the same reason they can hate several other characters for. I just don't see how they believe gluto "played perfectly" or "Steve carries Acola" when every other top Steve either doesn't play and only one has switched characters, and how gluto "played perfect" tho i see many mistakes being expertly exploited by Acola. People are even calling his WAFT parry "accidental" and act as if he doesn't have to deal with minutes worth of disadvantage because Steve needs mats to cover the gaping hole that is his movement stats. Who cares if your tilts and aerials are neg on shield if you can barely reach me? If you can't stop him getting mats you're either doing the wrong thing or need a PROPER secondary.

@@pooking7i631 let's look at his mats. Only 2 blocks matter but the rest can't keep him safe if you know what he wants to do after influencing you to approach while collecting mats. Hell you can even bait his response or even feint and read his response. I know because I've watched top players actually do it or feint and read but react the wrong way due to being overwhelmed. Either simplify the MU or master your piloting to move effortlessly. You know, similar to Acola. The shit he does takes thought because the wrong move can be a long disadvantage state and heavy damage or even a stock like the string/combo gluto pulled off right after taking his stock. Even with that happening you still think Steve needs a ban?!

​@@pooking7i631Steve is a high skill ceiling high reward character so he deserves the top tier compared to easy to play characters like Aegis

Link is mid and sux

He’s 17.

"3 years later the Steve main wins his 100th tourney thanks to a broken character" *He'S A F*CkINg KiD!*

@@xanander469317 is literally a kid

​​@@eneruem it is not???? What the hell is wrong with the english community

スティーブに勝つためには完璧なプレイをしなければいけないがスティーブは完璧なプレイをしなくても勝てるとかいう謎

Also Acola, Sonix, and Miya along with every player is fun to watch in SSBU cuz they’re skilled asf

*are

My guy steve clearly destroys warrior, it’s just gluto being the far more skilled player and still losing to steve cheese in the end

Glutto clearly played better tho imo, he deserved that win, and we all know why he lost Im not saying Acola is bad, but yeah, u get what i mean

​@@drew6ix2wohow is he more skilled when his character relieves him of having as restricted movement as say Steve or my main, Link? What I saw was both giving their best in a very close match. I also noticed many claiming gluto played perfectly but that's actually bs. You can see many times whr he makes obvious mistakes or gets read but most of all you saw him win exchanges, hold advantage many times, and even pull off the best combo/string in the game for the win after pretty much walking Acola down for a whole stock. If irc it was a zero to death and he had has WAFT. What is your criteria are you basing this judgement on

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yeah sure? 14:38

You misspelled “carried”

@@Pholardwario extended his hurtbox with bair.

@@bluprintdhd4569 People are blind. That's why they suck at smash? Thicker glasses nerds.

Other way around

@@joecool4872 Sakurai was just keeping Steve faithful to his original game. In Creative mode Steve can place blocks in the sky and carries an infinite amount, and in Ultimate he does the same :)

@@thecapitalisticdictator2256 Actually, even in Creative mode you still can't just place a block in midair, it needs to be attached to another block

@joecool4872 I'm ngl my minecraft world got destroyed by a virus, so it's been a long time. I thought there was a way to do it though

​@@thecapitalisticdictator2256 At that point we might aswell get the Terrarian in smash instead of steve, can actually place blocks midair and is way cooler if u ask me

Exactly 🎯🎯🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

listen guys, I need to make some points here. First off, there’s never gonna be a universal Steve ban because A. the most technical are by far Acola and Miya (both of their Steves get checked by swordies despite the two players being cracked), along with Miya opting for game and watch in many matchups, B. when there are supermajors in various regions, we don’t see many Steve mains crack top 32 most of the damn time, and C. the two best Steves don’t use any broken or banworthy tech like PMLG. Bans aren’t gonna do jackshit y’all, just enjoy the game. It’s not like Steve has frame 2 moves or consistent ceiling combos to the top blastzone unlike Brawl Meta Knight or Sm4sh’s Bayonetta respectively. There are ways around minecart and Steve’s mediocre speed and range, I’m sure there are more ways to play patiently and make the Steves have to stop camping and use their tools more with risk if you play correctly. Sure LMBM 2024 banned Steve, but even if Steve wasn’t banned there, we wouldn’t see more than two Steve mains in top 64. So there’s counterplay to the character, as ultimate’s meta is evolving. It’s just player vs. player stuff. No character is perfect in this game unlike in sm4sh or ssb64 pikachu. Steve doesn’t need a ban as banning him won’t help players with maneuvering and patient gameplay, which is what Steve encourages. Learn the matchups and that these Steve mains are NOT and will NEVER be carried by this character.

​@@nolangorenmail Lol Even good players can get carried We are talking about the top 1 character in the game as far as i know

@@nolangorenmail Dog i'm sorry, but so much of what you said is just wrong. The issue is Steve isn't healthy for the game, plain and simple. He has counterplay, sure, but that counterplay is boring to watch and boring to play. A lot of people can't just 'enjoy the game' cus we have to watch this awful character in action. Also ironic that you compare him to Brawl metaknight when his uptilts and up airs are increadibly similar. And no, there is no playing 'more patient' that is going to put a Steve mining behind walls more at risk. There was a set with Acola vs Tweek where Tweek opted to not contest Steve behind his walls, and lo and behold, Acola decided to mine the whole game. The character is overtuned as hell, has way too many broken options, and fundamentally breaks what Smash is supposed to be. You can learn the matchup and there is counterplay to him, but at the end of the day he's not healthy for this game from both a competitor's and spectator's point of view

He got no money cause he in Japan and gambling illegal

Steve is one of the hardest character to master and only Acola can be in top 48 with him out of the 10+ steves so he deserves the money 🤑💰