Opening up a crate of Chinese manufactured 7.62x39mm ammo purchased at Cabela's. A video trying some of this ammo can be found here: • Cabela's Surplus 7.62x...
@@314299 Well that’s not much different then now. 1500 in Canada are $400, or $295 USD. So it’s really only gone up inflation rate during the last 8 years. Now 20 years ago it was crazy cheap
It says that is 7.62mm Normal type (steel). That is for type 56 (Chinese type AK47). On the right it says 2/1 boxes, made about 1985 product by No. 16 factory. I was served in Chinese army for 3 years, I think those are reserve ammo cause back in my days there only one big metal case inside the wood box. We used to keep the ammo that says "2/1" and used "1/1" which is only has one case inside.
Used to be $99.00 per crate like that. That was my America. Id get 2 crates at a time. It was nothing unusual to each shoot 300 rounds off on a weekend. We all had AK's that were preban semi autos , and like 30 30 round mags for them. Now all thats gone, and most of my old pals have passed . Everything about today makes me sick when i think of how things used to be .
We never had 7.62x39 quite that cheap up here, but I have bought it for $180 a crate (Czech surplus). I agree the present does not compare very well with the past and the future looks even worse....
@@314299down here in the mid 80's if you bought a 69$ sks you could get a crate or 2 with the purchase if there was a lot of sks up for sale at that show. The cheapest I remember being able to buy a case of ammo was 39$ or 49$ not sure which its been a long time ago
Here is the BETTER translation! (hope your system can indicate Chinese characters!) 7.62普(钢): 7.62 Ball Ammunition(steel). Usually, the "steel" means "bimetal". If the character is “钢涂”， it means "lacquer-coated". It's rare to find "铜" (copper). 56式: Type 56. There are three Type 56 weapons: Type 56 semiautomatic rifle (SKS), Type 56 "submachine gun" (AK), and Type 56 LMG (RPD). They all use 7.62×39mm ammo. 750发: 750rds 2/1樟16/67-85: This line is the info of the powder. "2/1樟" is the name of powder, meaning the powder has one through-hole and been treated with 樟脑 (camphor). The "burning layer" is about 0.2mm thick. "16/67-85" means LOT 16, year 67, factory 85. 15-82-61: the production date, LOT 15, year 82 factory 61.
War Dogs, Apparently: Change the packaging and VOILA, nobody thinks it’s Chinese Ammunition and with that, it can somehow circumvent the ban or some shit like that. Only problem, he didn’t pay the box guy because the idiot apparently got TOO GREEDY for his own good and because of that, they got busted by the Feds. End of Story
This video makes me so emotional. I remember going to gun shows and buying these for $99.00. Actually the ones I use to buy were 1750 rounds. Great Blamo!!
I don't know if anyone mentioned it, but there is a Chinese rifle with a 30-round magazine with a spring that gives out eventually if you put all 30 rounds in it. The way I hear it, if you only put in 25 rounds, the mag spring lasts and lasts.
In fact the word"56式" on the wood box means the ammo type but not the rifle. There are at least 3 kinds of rifle and ammunition named in "56式". For ammunition "56式" means the chinese type 7.62x39mm, it has copper jacket, soft steel core(it is cheaper, can save lead and more easy to manufacture) and steel shell casing(to save copper, and the shell casing are covered with a little copper to prevent rust). For rifles we call sks "56半"（full name ist 56式半自动步枪，type56 semi-auto rifle）. And the ak47(not AKM. At the age akm was designed, the relationship between China and USSR became really bad so it is impossible for China to get AKM design) are called 56冲 (full name is 56式冲锋枪，type56 SMG). There are two reasons why ak47 was called SMG in China. Firstly, ak47 took the place of PPS-43 SMG in china army so the new weapon(ak47) in solders' hands is called SMG. Secondly , the concept of assault rifle is really really late imported into China(about 1970s oder 1980s i think) thats all and i like your videos ;)
I find it easy to roll the opener down one side to get a good tight roll on the key then just pull around in a circle the rest of the way. It's probably a little dangerous as it's sharp! But faster if you're impatient like me.
Bush Sr. signed the late 80’s Chinese arms ban. His son extended the ban. Also why would you want to support a totalitarian communist government that routinely jails and murders dissidents and whose arms industry (Norinco) was caught selling and even giving arms away to American street gangs, Marxist extremist organizations, and far left revolutionaries to destabilize America and the West?
agreed. bought my first SKS in 96 and shot a bunch of the copperwashed stuff....dirty as all get out. But then again so is the bear brand ammo. Just a side effect of bargain shooting :)
I used to get them in the late 80's for $50 per case packed in 2 tin can per case with 720 rounds per can totaling 1400 rounds and with stripper clips. I also bought another type of case designated for use in SKS with stripper clips packed in 550 rounds can with 2 cans in case totaling 1100. Got over 10 cases of each and expended half over the years but still have the other half and a word of warning is the ammunition might be corrosive primed, around the 90's they switched to non-corrosive primers.
Chinese mil-surp ammunition was cheaper to buy than .22LR back in the 1980's. They used corrosive mercuric Berdan primers, which have an incredible shelf life when the ammunition is stored under proper conditions. Most surplus firearms chambered for the 7.62 X 39MM round, like the SKS (except the Yugo variants), have chrome plated chambers & bores, so the use of corrosive ammunition is mitigated.
I used to shoot plenty from AK47 in my army time. It was 1975-77. But my ammo was always lacquered in dark green. Never have seen metal shells like those you got.
As I understand it most European and Soviet made ammo was in lacquer coated steel cases, the lacquer made the cartridge cases grey, green or brown color. Most of the Chinese 7.62x39 ammo I have seen has the copper coated steel cases like those in the video.
Good stuff. Seems like the 1980's production is not as corrosive. Very snappy ammo. I was given a half a tin last year and was pretty impressed by the accuracy considering its steel core. I still can't get over the cat pee like smell. I'm curious to see what the powder charge is.
+nrainfidelforlife Sounds like you had a reasonably positive experience with it, I hope the accuracy is at least OK, but I have low expectations for any surplus ammo.
I love your videos! you're like the Canadian version of Hickok45. I wish I had a collection like you! I've only had my PAL since Oct 2015 just starting my collection slowly.
Look forward to the review after range testing. I'm down to under 2 crates of Romanian and a half crate of Czech, so will have to stock up again before too long...
I know someone who has a Ruger M77 in 7.62x39 and he tested dozens of different ammo. In the end he told me the Chinese surplus ammo was the most accurate. I don't know if he was shooting that same stuff you have though.
+Prepare2Survive Chinese lead core 7.62x39 is pretty good stuff accuracy wise, however this is steel core so i doubt it will be anything special for accuracy.
That is the great thing about military ammo using Berdan primers. They have an incredibly long life, especially if the ammunition is stored under good conditions.
Hi, I know about that Chinese ammo box says. The military reference a lot of Soviet Union arms system to build Chinese system, so in alot of things ,they didn't have much different. In wood box, line1,"7.62普（钢）" means 7.62毫米普通步枪弹（钢芯）, on English is 7.62mm normal ammunition with steel core (this sounds like armor-piercer bullet, but is not ,they just like FMJ ammo, normal, and lot being use day by day....) line2, "56式“ means type 56 line3, yes, "发" means contain how much round inside. and in wood box right line1,can't see it ,but they should by same like spam can ,"2/1 樟 16/67-85" ,2/1樟 means two can in this camphor wood box , and I'm sure with next, they probably means ammo cartridge material batch number. line2, "15-82-61"means this wood box in 1982 by factory code name 61 manufactured, batch number is 15 line3, "全重30公斤“，means this ammo with wood box, Wight 30 kg. ps.all this ammo look like made by copper, but is not, ther just have copper coating, inside they made by steel, China didn't like US have a lot copper resources , so .....ues steel ceas , steel bullet, will make ammo be chiper, outside copper coating give that ammo work like copper ammo, but it ues in non-China type weapon, sometime cause Jams. In new type ,like type87(DPB87) ,we still use steel cease, didn't coated with copper,but coated with paint...... and they do this with type 56 too...
(=_=;)sorry ,in right line1, "I'm sure with" .....should be "I'm not sure....".......look like you already figure out all this things...... when I typing, vid time just 2:38.......(・・;)
You ladies/gents in Canada are really fortunate with some ammo prices, and the fairly recent good retail prices for very nice examples of the Russian SKS. However....the need to clean any of my four imported AKs the same day after using corrosive ammo makes such nice ammo prices unappealing. I'm glad that you are allowed to buy a VZ-58 in 7.62x39, despite AKs being banned.
got me all excited for nothing I knew this had to be an old post. I got ahold of some Vietnam issue cans sold them when they banned the so-called armor-piercing rounds. It was the best day of my life. I bought 3 cans for 30 dollars at a flea market, sold them for 750.00 at a gun show. great day
+Gungeek Yes, they must have got clear of all that old crap. Ironically the ammo meant to be used against the "Imperialist dogs" is being sold to them instead.
Did you ever upload a video of when you pulled the bullets? The reloading stuff is really interesting to me. Or was it just like the Norinco so you didn't bother.
Till those stupid asses over at olypic arms made that stupid pistol , and clinton banned importation of that ammo ,heck it was as low as $75.00 for 1550{ the lowest i ever saw } , oly arms was told dont do it and yep ,dumbasses ,glad they went under ,overpriced trash.
We get those alot in mexico pro tip when opening the can just wind the handle 3 times then just pull the ribbon around the can the rest of the way it's way faster, also its pretty handy for loading 75 round drums for rpk
Nice informative video.... But damn I'm jealous !!!! If almost everything else here in the US is made in China, why can't we get firearms and ammunition??? Oh well... At least we still have Tula and Wolf. Love your channel. Take off eh
+Joey P I would say it boils down to your government and your domestic arms and ammo industries not wanting the cheap imports of Chinese guns and ammo to continue, there was a time that Chinese guns and ammo were cheap and widely available in the USA.
One reason we don’t get Chinese guns is: the Chinese can make the Ak47 and it’s variants for about $150.00 verses our money grubbing arms dealers have to charge the govt about $900.00 to over $1000.00 per copy for the AR16 variation No.4. I hate it, you hate it, everyone hates it!
@@user-hb8be5wb4q the Chinese ak was only that cheap cause they were demobilizing reserves militia and large amount of regular infantry in the 80s to 90s.
Well I heard you talking about an "AK " But we can not use them or be in possession of an AK- Kalashnikov...(In Canada)... So Yes , We can use the "SKS" Riffle making this a cheap and aford able round because it "SKS" & Most of the ammo is coming from China now... So it is cheaper .. That looks like a good box!!! Right On !!! Happy Shooting in 2016 Thanks.
+Joey P I dont think you would be able to import a Russian made SVT40 or SKS into the USA. Some sort of "voluntary restraint of trade" agreement between the USA and Russia that was signed a number of years ago regarding certain surplus guns/ammo.
So, if someone from down here goes up there and gets a case and brings it back, is that....reasonable? I assume it was purchased near the posting date? How much was it? I got way too much X54R type and now can't find cases of X39
+archangel20031 It's not as simple as just popping up to buy ammo, to buy ammo in Canada you need a Canadian firearms license. To get that you need to take a course, pass a test, pay a fee, pass a background check and then wait a month (or three) for the license. Then there are the issues with exporting ammo from here and importing it to there (I assume you are in the USA). The USA will not permit the importation of Chinese made ammo. Yes, the ammo was purchased close to the posting date, it was $249.99 Canadian, plus tax.
Thank you for showing how to open this candy box. I'm getting the 1100 case with stripe clips and after that I'm getting this one which will be cheaper
I couldn't stop thinking about repackaging it and smuggling it across the US border, claiming it was legal ammo. Claiming it's my own ammo grandfathered in by having been imported to US prior to the import ban. Or even denying that it's Chinese. That's if caught, of course. People cross the border to buy cheap booze in Canada all the time, also to bypass the embargo on Cuban cigars, so why not cross over to buy cheap ammo? Yeah, yeah, it's probably illegal to bring it in. Even though it's entirely legal to own once it's across.
I'm guessing that you mean an SKS? Perhaps the SKS "D" rifle that took AK mags? There were 25 round AK style mags sold back then, they were Chinese and were originally intended for the Chinese Type 63/68 rifle.
+Oscar Delta Their official front line rifle, the QBZ-95, uses the 5.8×42mm DBP87 round, although there are a lot of older 7.62x39mm weapons still in inventory.
For the Chinese corrosive ammo? Tenda Canada just had the non corrosive 1000 round bulk on for 339 Canadian. Usually see the corrosive going on sale for 300 for 1500 every now and then.
Good! Still... How do you manage to buy ammo from the Third country like China? And, how do you import ammo? Do you have specific licence or allowance for that?
As a consumer I did not have to import anything, I simply went into the store, showed my firearms license, paid for the ammo and left. The importation and any associated permits, etc, would have been handled presumably by Cabella's or their agents.
Is it boxer primers or the non reloadable berdan primers im a reloader . Boxer one flash hole berdan 2 flash holes and the anvil is made in to the rear of the case just so you know what to look for most surplus has berdan primers but not all do depends on country of origin
This ammo is copper plated steel case and Berdan primed. And although it is steel case and Berdan primed it can be reloaded and I have done so, as I have a supply of the correct size Berdan primers.
Not a good idea to reload corrosive cased ammo... those corrosive salts are `driven` into the cartridge case upon firing... are you willing to shoot ammo that could corrode from the inside???
It was cheaper to buy a brand new SKS carbine & military surplus ammo than to buy a .22 rimfire rifle & .22 LR ammunition. Hell had frozen over. Then Bill Clinton walked among us, & hell returned with a fury.
I think this is the long term storage ammo there is a case that is one big can with a wire pull to open it also the 25 round boxes point at this being reserve ammo
These are very much sought after ammo too, light armor piercing. I got some from the Vietnam war time, The advantage in that war the communist has this light armor piercing that zip through very wide trees and a lot of brush, While the Americans 5.56 would go into3 inch's of brush. I tested the stuff I had and it went through a tree trunk as wide as my chest with no problems.
@@dragdragon23 I remember back in the 80’s at a gun show, new SKS rifles were selling for $69 each… and if you bought a case of this ammo for $150, they gave you a rifle… no joke! Bill Clinton came along and in 1994 stopped all importation of Chinese AK’s, SKS and Chinese ammo. As to the Korean firearm sell-back… that is coming to an end soon.
@@nigel900 very true! the price of the ammo was cheaper at 80 bucks a case. We always say it'll be here next time and it's not. Could of stocked up on the ammo big time! Remember the on side business that sprong up selling extra's for the SKS rifle. I bought SKS with a fiberglass stock, folding front legs, scope with rifle a hundred bucks. I seen so many trucks with SKS rifles in their back window was amazing, but not now!
When I bought this years ago it was on clips and the clips loaded into an SKS. Rifle with bayonet, new with bandoleer, cleaning kit, oilier and sling was 79$. With 1 crate of ammo less than $125. Unfortunately our right to bear arms un-infringed here in the US has become up for interpretation. Everything from zipcode to origin of arms has been used to restrict, tax and infringe our rights.
+314299 Shooting Channel I bought a lot of 7.62 x 39 (several cases) on stripper clips in the early 90's here in the US. They came packed with 30 rounds (3 clips of course) packed in that brown paper wrapper then packed in spam cans.
Mine was corrosive also. Still it worked and other than an immediate clean up having to happen it was decent enough stripped with bandoleers. I believe they were dated in the 1950s/60s Ammo they neglected to use in Korea and Vietnam?
I bought it in all sorts of case/package configurations back in the 1980s. I even scored a good bit of this type of ammo in 7.62 x 51 NATO in 300 round tins on 5 rd M14 strippers
