Under the Masks of Kakashi's VAs - NORMIES DECIDE: Sub vs Dub - Kakashi Hatake from Naruto 

Which one do you prefer? Sub OR Dub?

You all need to do Obito's VA and Madara's

Do Gaara! So very different, but both amazing! I don't even know myself which I would choose after watch plenty of times.

The thing with sub is that it is not translated exactly. There are so many different ways they're translated but they're written for quick readability rather than trying to nail everything. People comparing languages they don't speak will always confuse me

Really hoping for pain one day, mainly for the speech!

Actually in first clip, sub Kakashi does sound like he is talking to a child as he is being very slow and using very kind and reassuring tone while extending the vowel at the end of the sentence. He does not sound so badass during this conversation. It was just his natural deep voice. Maybe it is difficult to understand his tone if u r not native speaker

Both are good. Didn't notice a difference when switched to sub because dub was behind in new episodes. This was around the Pain Arc.

Both are really nice. Does anyone else still cry after watching Kakashi's death scene?

I feel like these Dub vs Sub Naruto videos are the "Normies Sub Fan Apology Tour". Anyone else feel like some of the takes reflect the complete opposite of what's there? People continue to bring this up but Japanese, when translated to English doesn't emerge as cleanly when it's direct. It creates dialogue that sounds robotic and totally not how a person would actually speak. The dub has introduced more colorful language and expressions that we use here in the west that make the characters feel more relatable and human without taking away from the original meaning, but the Normies called that "G-rated sugarcoating" -_- The lines, "Well, both you and I aren't the lucky ones..." and "But we're not the worst either" sound so generic and bland compared to "Neither of us has lived a charmed life, exactly" and "Still, we're not all that bad off". Also, some crucial clips are missing. I know we have to be selective for the videos sake, but if I were making the choices I would've included the scene where we hear the iconic "abandoning your friends makes you worse than scum" line for the first time (even though it's still early Kakashi and Dave gets even better with age/also to bring it full circle with the scene when he says it to Obito would've been phenomenal to play in front of the Normies), the scene where Kakashi monologues internally during his final fight with Obito before he stabs him through, and the scene where he's sitting over him empathizing with Obito after he's had the Ten-tails sucked out of him. Those are crucial to Kakashi's development as a character. The scene right before he's about to finish off Zabuza, shit-talking to him and Haku saves him is pretty good too. I would've removed the Pain arc scene as it's partially inconsequential, though maybe a more emotional piece might've been the scene where he's reflecting on his life before passing into limbo after that same fight just because there's more personal material there. Ultimately, I just have to come to the conclusion that it's weird to have a contest between two different languages and performances when the judges can't understand or comprehend the inflections and expressions in Japanese. When they make remarks about how a Japanese person performed a line and how it affected the tone of the scene, how do they know that inflection means the same thing as it does in English or in a western culture? There's a lot of subtle differences, though I know we're doing our best out here. I feel like they're being harsher on Kakashi and other dub actors in certain instances because they possess the English comprehension to understand fully take it apart. Sometimes, I feel like it's for no substantive reason at all. With the sub, you lack the ability to understand it fully so there's this alluring component to it that makes it sound cool and mysterious. So you can affirm it without truly being able to appraise it. Not saying sub actors aren't amazing, just saying the contest seems weird to have. This would be a more interesting conversation to have with the Normies in a bigger debate, maybe with callers in a podcast format giving their takes.

I'm a sub watcher on almost all anime. But dub Naruto is simply legendary and easily on eaqual footing if not better than sub in certain ways. Dub kakashi is soo iconic.

I really appreciate this series

The sub vs. dub series is very entertaining.

Nooo, missed opportunity to add Kakashis speech right before he stabs obito. That scene was soo good.

Please do Pain, Madara Itachi, or just all the popular characters in general.

We need Almighty Push in the villain video!

You guys got a taste of it here, but definitely do adult Obito. The dub makes...choices with that make him sound just so much older and it's really jarring if you're use to the sub.

Just wanna say this is such a good series that y'all are doing.

Fun fact: Kazuhiko brought us the amazingly iconic “EREN YEAGGGGGERRR” in the aot sub!

It's Neil Kaplan, Matthew Mercer, Troy Baker, David Lodge, Crispin Freeman, Tom Gibis, Liam O'Brien e.t.c.❤🥷

Sub just hits harder, dare I say as intended

Last one should’ve been Kakashi’s speech right before he stabs Obito.

17:58 I mean, the speech hits Sasuke just right and probably would have saved him from revenge if it wasn't for the Sound 4 showing up and ripping open old wounds.

I couldn’t stand Naruto’s English dub so I watched the entire series in sub. Even so I prefer dub Kakashi. He has great dad/mentor energy

Second clip is an amazing pick. When in Sub he says "Everyone has been already killed" gulp.

Kakashi's dub voice actor is honestly fucking amazing. Like Guy, he stands out in almost every scene. Kazuhiko Inoue is one of the greatest VAs of all time and I love his Kakashi, but I wouldn't be upset at all if Dave took this. His Kakashi is just that good. And that's the thing with English Dubs- they often are standout performances that almost everyone loves, but the overall quality of the cast is often much lower than the sub. In Japan voice acting is taken very seriously. Major VAs are mini-celebs and the best of the best are just calebs. Because of that, even minor roles are given careful consideration and the VAs really do give it their all. But when a dub needs someone to voice "Background Character B" it really does feel like they're pulling random people off the street sometimes.

i've heard her use this example for kakashi sub and erwin sub. why is she under the impression when you're dying or hurt you only say one word sentences. usually in fatal situations people are rambling as their brain shuts down or fights to get the last words out

why are you guys still evaluating the dialog as a point of comparison? one thing is the lines in the dub which is the oficial translation and adaptation of the lines in japanese and the other is the interpretation of some guy in the internet, theres no official subtitles

Anyway to me sub is way better than dub. and it's a bit weird to evaluate the voice acting only for one character

Have you guys considered doing HxH as well?

Dave Wittenberg was in the new Spiderman 2 game btw lol. So was Jiraiya's voice actor

We all want Pain next

both for me

Micky hasnt seen it so, digimon reactions when then?

"These are sad facts, Rana" 😂😂

Steve Blum e.t.c.

Dub Kakashi sounds more personable while sun is trying to be a teacher

i've heard Kashi in brazilian portuguese, english and japonese and the conclusion i get to is.... i love my husband in any language he speaks

Itachi uchiha next

MIGHT GUY

After y'all finish with naruto y'all should do HxH

Would love one for Gaara.

I want that Pikachu Kakashi behind Rana!

I know you don't wanna do Boruto, but can you do some of their best fights. Especially episode 65 due to it being one of the best anime fights of all time, and top 3 if no 1 for the Naruto/Boruto verse.

They are equally incredible to be honest.

Since you haven't watched the filler episodes, it would be interesting to add scenes from these episodes on Sub vs Dub

are they gonna watch boruto at some point?

We need Madara and Pain

I'm calling it out, normies have found the ultimate cheat code of these versus battles. get a fifth person on this couch so there is no way these ties can happen because otherwise whats the point of these versus if there is no winner.

Based on the first clip, the English dub was more sentimental while the Japanese seemed like he had a more casual, lighthearted tone.

I like the sasuke kakashi talk. The dub makes it sound mire patronizing and i think that works on a thematic level as to why sasuke leaves and why kakashi can't get through to him.

Where’s the pain one.

Tbh there are a lot of great dub and sub matchups for naruto and Kakashi's is one of them. I find both equally great for this one. My preference changes depending on the scene. Madara, Obito, Pain, Itachi, Gai and Jiraiya would be great as well, i feel like they're on the same level in terms of quality. On the other end of the spectrum, voices for Hashirama and Tobirama are vastly better in sub so it would be fun for them to hear it in this setting as well.

I THOUGHT THEY SOUNDED EXTREMELY SIMILAR LOL. ANYONE ELSE?

Now this is a tough one the dub voice actor for him is amazing @_@

Next My Hero Academia Sub vs Dub

dub kakashi sounds so comforting to me lol

For me 1. Sub 2. Dub 3. Dub 4. Sub

WHEN YOU GONNA DO MADARA!!! he's dub voice is easily the best dub in Naruto

“Charmed life” is Kakashi being sarcastic in the moment you can tell by how he says it I don’t think that had anything to do with lighting dialogue.

Hinata,tobi,madara please

Should take kakashi scene when obito is under the rock .

As a voice actor myself, I feel English dub VA’s generally deserve more credit. According to a video called “dubbed anime isn’t that bad” and Connor if trash taste, the Japanese voice acting industry is much more built up than the American one. To paraphrase Connor, “Japan has voice acting school whereas we just have acting school.” Now, we do have voice over class, but it’s still not the same thing. Either way, most dub voice actors lack the training of their Japanese counterparts. That issue combined with the problem of having to match the lip flaps puts western anime actors at a substantial disadvantage to their Japanese counterparts. Furthermore, a lot of people accuse western voice actors of sounding unnatural and emotionless. I feel that criticism misunderstands both VO and traditional acting. Believe it or not, many voice over teachers do NOT teach you to sound natural, they teach you to sound CLEAN bc natural dialogue sounds disgusting when recorded into a track. They also teach you to enunciate EVERYTHING in order to sound as clear as possible. So, when someone accused a western dub actor of sounding unnatural-well, that’s the point, at least according to my experience. Trust me, you do not want to listen to raw audio-audio that hasn’t been cleaned either by the actor or by sound editing programs. Now onto the emotion part. Western acting schools don’t teach you to “put emotions into your delivery”. Instead, they teach to be believable and, more importantly, to play what your character is DOING. The last point is kind of hard to explain, but, here’s how I put it. Let’s say your character is asking a question about something important in a scene. Chances are, a traditional acting teacher will teach you to play the ACTION of asking a question, not the “emotion behind the question”. I really hope that makes sense. The point of doing this is to make the dialogue sound ACTIVE, not natural. A great example of of this kind of acting is Violet Evergarden’s English VA, Erika Harlacher. The character is meant to come off as kind of emotionless and flat, which can be boring to watch. However, Harlacher manages to avoid this pitfall, by playing what the character actually DOES. During Violet’s scene with Aiden, Harlacher plays, well, the actions of talking to someone else, reassuring someone else, changing her mind, etc etc.As a result, Violet’s dialogue feels active even though she’s “emotionless”. With all this said, I need to address the elephant on the room. People on Quora said that “being believable” and “sounding clean” can make you come off as boring in an animated production. I imagine the same thing applies to the whole “play actions not emotions” technique many western actors are taught. Furthermore, I’m rooting my entire argument in personal experience. I’m sure I missed or messed up some concepts. If any fellow voice actors or actors hear this paragraph, please let me know.

Rana and Navi are so cute 😍

It's ok if you don't watch boruto but react to naruto sasuke vs momoshiki or any top fight from boruto

Kurapika next pls

Honestly the localization is so good it feels like the dubbing is reversed. Japanese dubbed English. It sounds like the Japanese VA is trying to fit in as many words as possible in the scene. Usually it’s the other way around.

Dub no question

Might Guy has a great dub as well. Captures all the personality

Hope they watch other naruto movies...

You really need to do Madara

Fun fact: Both the Dub and Sub voice actors for Kakashi voice Yoriichi from Demon Slayer :) It’s cool when VA share multiple characters

Need better chips for vocal range

Please do Kabuto 💙💜

Sub is gonna be always better than dub for me. But if i’m being honest some of them are pretty good.

Do armin sub vs dub next !!!!

Madara,Orichimaru and Pain should be next

Dub is so robotic and soulless

You guys wanting to be woke is a shackle in your judgement and makes the whole thing bais. Dub is clearly better just for the soul reason of emotional delivery

This'll be an interesting one cause as a sub watcher, Kakashi's dub is very solid so dub will probably take the W here

Dub for sure

Chris dub Jonsin 😂😂😂

Dub forever. Try listening to sub without watching the screen. Ur left confused, who's who and what's happening

25:00 But don't you talk faster in your inner monologue? So it can be more dialog heavy than the words he says out loud.

I'll mostly go with dub its what pulled me in , if i want to read I'll just do manga

Navi looks like a magical girl with that choker, skirt, cape. I know its a jacket but she is wearing it like a cape.

You guys should do Chainsaw Man sub vs dub. And include Portuguese.

Both really good. No wonder Naruto has one of the best anime dubs in the industry.

Sub Shippuden will forever be superior I don't wanna hear it.....

Both voices are good but i am also literally based on dub because the same like you I watched Naruto in dub and also what the hell Rana chose all damn scenes from the anime that death scene and Obito scene was good but another two are full trash scene compared to another great scene which we see in anime Suraj is good picking scenes from the anime that's for sure Rana Replied me why you chose that damn scene from the anime

Sasuke used his new learned chidori power for all the wrong reasons? Says who? My mans was definitely justified

It's the dub, rana is wrong as usual whats new tho honestly

It's interesting to see how much the dub poisoned their minds.