"Trump is like Teddy Roosevelt" I recently heard, except he's not. Roosevelt was shot in the chest at point blank range, and then proceeded to continue on with a 90 minute speech which, according to the Oxford English Dictionary, is the very definition of badass
Yeah Trump isn't on the same level, but at least it does show he is still mentally with it. Wonder how many people would think to do a photo op immediately after barely getting shot at. There is also Andrew Jackson, although he didn't get hit because both guns misfired. He then proceeded to beat his assassin with his cane. Think they had to peel Jackson off him before he killed the guy.
Teddy Roosevelt also very much believed in the free market, and using regulation to fix the inherent power imbalance of capitalistic markets by reducing the market power of wealthy businesses. Also conservation of the environment.
"Angels are just like demons!" Yeah, I guess so. They both have wings. Or are imaginary. Whatever. It's impossible to reliably predict what random feature of the signified concept your audience is going latch onto most tightly. Combating this kind of logic depends not on the audience's willingness to challenge their prejudices, but their EAGERNESS to challenge them. Even sane people are prone to confirmation bias, just because it's the most easily defined reference point.
Hahaha!!! Michael asking about Poppers and then returning to the main conversation with "If you are just tuning in, we are talking about Political Violence..." had me laughing so loud i woke my cat up!!!
Tim Hickson, on RU-vid (& Nebula) as Hello Future Me, has a 3-part series of video's titled "How Revolutions Really Work / The Dictator's Dilema", "Why Revolutions are Hard to Write / Revolutions Done Wrong", and "Why Revolutions Fail / The Rebel's Dilema" that examines real and fictional (mostly fictional) revolutions, how they start, and why they often fail through the lense of a writer. Although they are aimed at realistic world building, they offer a good insight into our real world. The 3rd video, "Why Revolutions Fail", seems particularly salient to this live stream in that the violence of revolution doesn't translate into stable power. That deconstructing old regimes is a completely different operation from constructing new ones. Like Micheal said (paraphrasing), successful revolutions end with them dismantling themselves & refocusing their energy on governing.
Loved that series, and the qualified recommendation because you're right- its meant to discuss fiction first and foremost, but then goes into brilliant analysis of real revolutions and the structures therein to make the fiction better.
Sending love from Australia, very much so after the live. Also I believe Woolongoong originates from an Aboriginal word, since lots of our towns have similar naming conventions originating from the various Aboriginal dialects.
first youtube comment ever posted and probably last ngl: i myself am a new mom to a 7m/o girl that has been in such a headspace all weekend through today that witnessing my daughter do literally anything her baby ass does just has me weeping completely neutrally!!! mostly positively!!!! twice an hour on the hour as a parent will do from time to time hearing mike talk very casually yet with such gripping candor about how feels good man it is to just have a good day with his little girl, when everything seems to have a real or perceived tint of rottenness all the time nowadays.... had me in many wet pieces (some might call them drops). i just put my daughter down for a nap and i feel legitimately saved by the notion that other parents (especially ones i admire as people and thinkers generally, ie mr burns here) are out here in the same bad world feeling just as sweet about their lil babies as i do about mine. happy monday, everybody. :'-) please kiss or hug someone today.
The most absurd thing I've seen regarding the current situation, was a US politician pointing out that the US doesn't DO violence, that all advances in US history came from people peacefully protesting and petitioning the government!🤦🤣 Literally NOTHING has come from peaceful protest in the US! Politicians always think they can ignore or postpone needed action until shit gets violent!🤦
I think that's a very good analysis. And frankly, I resent being coerced by the mainstream media to express insincere sympathy for Trump, whose entire career has been built on bullying others.
Loved this show, it would be nice if you'd spend the time and mental bandwidth on congealling this stream of consciousness to an actual defensible and succinct position. So far the smartest guy I've heard comment on the 13th was Irami Osei-Frimpong who noted that Trump is not your problem, it's your neighbors who like him and against whom you can level no cogent arguments. Keep up the good work, we're all counting on you!
As an Australian that pronunciation of Wool-on-gong hurt me, although it is exactly how it is spelt. On the subject of colonisation, a lot of our more unique suburb names are based on the indigenous languages in the area.
Dear @Wisecrack. I have a question: was tRump's attack on the peaceful protesters in Lafayette Square count as "political violence"? Since he only did so to attack protesters and do a 5m photoshoot, and the protesters were doing nothing, is violence inflicted upon peaceful citizens exercising their right to protest considered "political violence"? Or is it ONLY when its targetted AT a politician?
I don't know if this is just a Canadian thing or universal but I've always known poppers to be when you put tobacco or a mix of tobacco and marijuana in a bowl and smoke it in a bong.
I would suggest Jared Ball and Black Liberation Media for talks about fanon and political violence. Had a Guerilla intellectual series for a short while
This was not political, it was a day in a school somewhere in the USA. This was someone of power and privilege having to come into contact with the average American experience.
feeling the doomer vibe. college student chilling on a friends porch that I am staying with for internship and I come back to trump being shot. and just the floods of panic and updates on media was crazy. now I am watch it through all of my academic chanels.
"Attempted assasination was not political violence".. ummm not sure you have a clear eyed veiw on this one. You not liking that other things are not classified as such disnt nean that this obvioulsly violent political attack wasnt like wtf.
My point was that, at least at this time, there is no sense that it was at attempt made with any political aim or by someone affiliated with any political group, party, state, etc. When Hinckley tried to assassinate Reagan, it wasn't an act of political violence, the dude was trying to get the attention of Jodie Foster. That doesn't mean that it's not a violent act, simply that just because someone attempts violence on a political figure doesn't mean that act is inherently political violence. And the reason this seems important is that it takes the force away from understanding actual instances of political violence occurring in the world.
@WisecrackEDU yeah but your assuming the shooter motivations without knowing them, how do you know he wasn't trying to keep trump from being president? What is the point of trying to deny something so obvious?
@WisecrackEDU the very first qualifier yoi read an act of violence with the intent of causing a political outcome. Yoir answer was uhhhh not really with litterally no further explanation. Your lampshaing here man....
I learned something today! Australia is really bad at naming places and also I may have had a woefully limited understanding of what political violence actually means. Lotta good stuff in this one!
I've gotta be honest, I've been a subscriber and a patreon donor for about a year. These live streams are almost unlistenable when you pause videos every 15 seconds to interject, often times veering away from the topic entirely. It's so hard to pay attention and keep track of what is being said in the videos. I know you like to freeball these streams but a little preproduction would go along way. I almost always stop watching less than half way through out of frustration.
I really REALLY appreciate you being a subscriber and a Patreon donor, both of those things help so much. I'm sorry you don't dig the vibe of the streams. Some folks really like it, but I totally get why others wouldn't. If it's bumming you out maybe the best move is to just not listen to these? I think especially because today was actually relatively structured that if you were still hating it you likely always will. We're starting some podcasts/streams back up when we launch our second channel this fall where we'll be talking about movies/shows, so maybe one of those will fit your vibe better. Either way - thanks for your support and your honesty.
how are you going to say that the attempted assassination of trump isn't political violence while looking at a Wikipedia page that directly uses targeted assassinations as an example of political violence? What point is being made by separating political assassination from the larger tapestry of political violence?
@@WisecrackEDU I heard you make the point that state assassinations are different from Individual assassinations and that's fine but they only seem different in terms of scale and power dynamic. To me the point of the word political violence is to talk about the purpose of the violence. why would they both not be political violence? To me this definition becomes more interesting when we talk about daily police action. Police are quite literally an arm of the state and act in the States interest and they perpetuate violence against citizens every day but we don't necessarily think of that as political violence but that would fit the definition of the Wikipedia page. edit: With the context of watching the full stream, I still don't see the point of the distinction especially because it seems like we agree that the blanket condemnation of political violence is used as a means of control of acceptable political actions.
It's always weird when someone comes into the livestream just to say "un-subbing Wokecrack" or "Wisecrack became too conservative". Like bro, 1: which one is it? 2: why'd you show up to the live stream just to hate on MF's don't ya'll got shit to do?
@@WisecrackEDUI think it's key to issues in higher education. I was a sports reporter in a college town and, to be brief, it was an astonishing vantage point. Why go to school to put stuff in your head, just to go out on the field to knock it out? Crude but gets to the point.
I think I should like Arendt, but to me her insights about violence didn't make any sense, at least not in the way they were described in the video. Surely violence is undertaken for many different reasons in different contexts. There are often cases where a desperate regime will resort to violence when it feels its power slipping away - granted. But there are just as many cases where a well-established regime uses violence as a normal part of maintaining dominance. The CIA didn't hire organized criminals to murder communists in Europe in the 70s because the USA felt its power declining. On the contrary, they used this violence to expand their power, suppress dissent, and harm their perceived enemies. They used violence BECAUSE they had political power. Maybe a more in-depth examination of Arendt's ideas on this subject would reveal a more nuanced understanding, but on their face, Arendt's ideas on violence seem incoherent. The notion that political power exists only in the absence of violence seems to contradict everything we know about politics.
This isn't one of your better ones. Lots of rambling and poorly structured. And almost as if you feel distanced from the pain and damages this have caused. Not only is it out of touch with the general state of things, constantly bringing up political violence backed by the US, almost feel forced (yeah sure, but how many superpower nations don't do political violence). This point is almost moot. It's like someone choked on tap water and you discussing about tap water isn't H2O. Of all the topics you could talk about, this is possibly the worst one.
Early in the video he said that assassination attempts against a presidential candidate don't qualify as political violence, reminding all of us why this is a channel with 3 million subs that no longer gets any views.
@@ClockwerkMan Less of a fascist compared to Biden, yet no one really calls Biden out on his stuff. At least Trump the media did a good job calling him out. Biden essentially gets the Obama treatment on steroids, where they circle the wagons for him on a constant basis.
