Understanding this Will Make Builds 1000x Better! The First Descendant 

I invested in tanki-ness mods which pretty much go on all characters, hp being strongest all around (getting 25-30k def then stacking 15-20k hp is far tankier than 60k def, figured that out the hard way and once you get the components you can start to swap out def/hp/shield mods for more offense) then focused on cool down (another pretty universal module type to go for), then specialized in chill/electric/fire etc...im sure theirs more min-maxing i can do but this seems to be the most simplistic set-up to a strong character.

Not quite. Modules like Power Increase with generic skill power actually multiply separately from the reactor optimization condition

@@Harmonic14 So I'm aware of that to a degree, but is It like games where the value of ATK% is different from Elemental ATK? Because thats how I assumed the interaction went. The Generic Skill power boost happened first. Boosting the reactor skill power directly, the 2nd one checks what in question applies for its conditional skill power bonus, and multiplies AFTER the first check.

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​@@ArcRaizerIt depends on the type of damage buff. Attribute skill power, type skill power (only comes on reactors, not modules), and generic skill power are all different multipliers. The attribute skill power boost modules will add to your reactor 0.2x bonus, but generic skill power will NOT add to the optimization condition and is its own separate multiplier. However, buffs from things like the Secret Garden DO add to the reactor bonus... This might be an oversight by the devs, but generic skill power from modules is its own multiplier entirely

Which one should Massacre Gley build use, Focus on Non-Attribute or Dimension Master? I’ve used both and see the same damage but I’m not sure if the training grounds were bugged for me or not.

My thing is... you don't have a choice,, you get one battle mod which gives power and the attack mods give multiplier.. ar eyou saying don't use the attack mod? Like use that spot for hp or something? Caus eI don't get the point of bringing up the two.. there are only two damage slots and I use both every time.. why wouldn't I?

@bigsarge1982 Youre taking me as saying too much. Im giving explanation, not making rules. The crux is merely to explain how it works specifically as it pertains to power and power modifiers. As to what your build will eventually look like is entirely up to you. I reckon devs were also originall trying to be conservative since as it is people have come up with game breaking amounts of dps. Coming from warframe, I say give it a bit of time and it wont be long before they add more hybrid mods to overcome the issues you mention, plus mods that work in sets. For example there is a hunter mod which is a set of 5. Get 3 of 5 or 5 of 5 and you get a bonus to x y or z. You het umbral mods etc.... Give it some time. This game is not yet a month old. I reckon prople also wanting way too much. For example, I can use bunny to solo hard mode bosses up to obstructor where you are forced to play as a group, and I can even fight obstructor with bunny having only about 28k defence and 6k health. There is a lot out there being said thats not really necessary. People are now realising why the devs didnt originally make a group finder for hard mode, because the intention was to co ordinate and synergise characters. Instead now people trying to do literally everything with 1 toon.

went through this in Diablo 4 lol.... everyone learned to build there base Additive powers to an extent then ignore reaching for more small +increases and focusing on multipliers from there

Square or X if you're on console ^^ solod comment bro loads of people don't know that screens there

Because your damage on any given enemy in the game is relative to that enemy’s defense and resistances.

@@keynonburns4921 They can still provide a base damage number. They do it for launchers, which damage falls off based on how far away from the blast it is.

U can see it kinda on the reactor

@@cbirdman skill power is shown on your inventory screen alongside your health, shields, firearm atk, and mp. Skill power is the basis of all your skill damage so it’s not that they don’t show it just not calculated the same as firearms.

@@keynonburns4921 It does not show skill power for each skill after mods. 🤦🏽

Hp rule supreme.

​@@bezero2005 HP and DEF is godly

HP.... defense caps out at 80% depending on the level of enemies. You will need a max of 25k defense in the hardest content and around 15-18k HP. HP being more important. Defense is just there to make sure your HP doesn't drop too fast. Then after defense it's resistance.

@@zazoreal5536 this is not how defense works. do not spread this info please. however, defence does work with diminishing returns so really dont need to aim for more than 15k. after that which basically is just base def. focus hp. what you are refering too is defence reduction. defence reduction cannot exceed 80%. def has no cap that we know of however, even with 1 million def you will not have 100% dmg reduction. with the way def works even at 1 million you should have around 70% DR. which is why around 15-30k def is really all you should aim for. (if you cant hit 30k not worth going above 15k. as it doubles each level so anything in between 15 and 30 is useless.) after 30k anything until 60k is useless. and so on. and the return you get for each level of upgraded def is marginally smaller each time. but there is definitly no cap to 80% defence. that is just people reading and understanding the tooltips ingame incorrectly.

also should never really build resistance. the effects are too minor and borderline useless for what you could gain instead.

For damage over time go for x modifier, raw damage use skill power. Element skill will boost both.

Yeah I wasn't really getting where he was going.. video randomly loaded in while I was eating so I figured I'd give it a gander but yeah

Agreed. This vid confused me.

Wasn't confusing for me at all. He showed examples and explained what we were looking at. But then again I already knew how all this worked lol.

@ii_Protogy_ii - he usually makes decent videos, but for this one he should have planned his thoughts instead of freestyle. I think he took a simple concept (that could have been a 1min video) and over-explained it

Pretty much if your playing ajax skill power only makes sense on him since he already has high modifier already and a 10%-20% difference don't make sense.

The break point is 100% for the same % increase

A nice positive comment gg just wanted to say fyi TLDR added to videos is counterproductive for content creators. If they did this, then viewership goes down. Many people who are looking for that info will simply skip to the TLDR and not watch the video so his metrics would suffer greatly especially on long videos as the system would see a long video w most people watching for only a few seconds or a tiny % of the total video. Js

@tonykeally1039 I thought of that, which is why you don't put it as a time stamp or anything, just a quick summation. He DID kind of do it at the end, though, to be fair, it was just too quick for me personally (would not think to speak for others!). Good point though!

I think its because it applies the same so doing a different decendant wouldn't change anything

tldr: skill power modifier changes the % number you see in your ability screen. skill power changes the other side of the x in that equation. your skill power is the numbers shown on your reactor

I think it's also skill level too not gonna lie I beat everything with not so high hp but I'm aware not everyone will be able to do that

@@ZoxLoots Yeah.... The main problem is that people neglect their external components. Just having good gear already puts you in a good place. It's not as if a good defense is a bad thing either. But staying Alive should be the main concern. Every time a player downs. Two less players are applying dps. That is millions of Dps lost.

Especially with how squishy Blair is . ​@@ZoxLoots

Your two largest damage increases for freyna would be focus on toxin and skill simplification. Reason being is both mods will effect ALL of you skills and allow your DoTs to “double dip”

@@DixiesKnight thanks dude really appreciate the reply 👌, i have focus on toxin maxed out and its pretty nice, i've been investing a lot of time on her she has 4 catalyst, cool down is pretty low and damage is good but it could be better just need to work on the skill power and what mods actually fit together perfectly 👌

Just go toxic and tech specialist with her.

My thoughts on what Sharen should change to. What would you change if you could? Sharen's camouflage should not be time limited but continuous MP drain and only stops when player cancels it or MP runs out. The drain could be modified off skill cost or duration and shooting should not cancel it. She is squishy and needs some form of protection. Her ambush state could still remain where she only gets the damage multiplier after coming out of camouflage. Her flash shortsword should not require locking on and should be cast almost immediately (keep the "wind up" animation) in a forward facing cone and damage everything in that area. Shock nuts should be an AoE around her for a certain range so she could escape if need be. Cutoff beam is fine. It's just a higher damage and DoT AoE melee anyways. Her passive should be the ability to knife an enemy after grappling onto them for high single target damage.

Maybe a Mod that changes her camouflage to MP drain instead of time that way you can switch it up between Colossi and missions.

You can save presets to do what you're asking. In your inventory look under your weapons on the left and you'll see preset, weapon list, and descendant module. Click on presets and go to town

@@narudragonpoke12 thank you!

Thanks for watching, have an amazing day🙏🏽

sounded like an endorsement speech

I've only seen 1 mod that that. It decreases incoming damage delt to you and decrease your damage output towards enemies.

sources are telling me it's dmc my bad

Bunny

the gun barrel mods add additional element damage that you add to your weapon with the enhancement mods

@@nicklewis4068 That's what it reads like, but what does it mean? Is the Gunbarrel mod useless without the Enhancement mod? Is the Gunbarrel mod worth investing in before you have maxed the Enhancement mod? Is the Gunbarrel mod even a mod worth putting on your gun?

​@MrNorker77 the way I see it For those mods it's only useful once you manage to roll an elemental dmg % on your gun cause it takes that element damage and adds like 40% or something more If you don't have the element installed it doesn't do anything.

@MrNorker77 Yes, it's useless if you don't have an element added either built in or added with an enhancement mod

The modules are green because i module socketed the slot, using the crystallization catalyst. Every time you do this for characters there levels reset back to 1 and you have to level them back up to 40 before you can do it again. The number of times you do this process will vary based on build and/or descendant. Weapons are done the same way but instead of character levels your leveling something call proficiency. The only other thing that opens up capacity is using something called an activator which can be used on both descendants and weapons once. These items can be crafted of course, Activators take 30 hours to craft and catalyst take 7 and a half hours to make. Hope that answers what you were looking for have a blessed day.

@@ZoxLoots thanks I finally figured it out

I did a whole video on Blair lmao

Other way around, skill power modifier is only worth it if your skill has a base power of 150~200% or better.

Each skill has a different modifier as well.

It’s child’s play comparing to Warframe

They are, That's why it's called RNG for a reason.

All of the slots except 1

If you are just looking to hit 85 total you have to 1) use an energy activator to give it plus 20 2) have the character fully leveled and 3) use only one catalyst on the Melee/grappling hook slot and have that mod max level. These three things is all you need to have it at a total of 85

To follow up on this, using a Cata on the melee/grappling hook spot is not efficient as using on the other mods as most you get is +5 from this mod while the others reduce from 16 to 8 meaning the give you 3 more space

Focus on toxic is better than toxic specialist because at max rank the difference in skill power is a measly 4-5% which will never make or break a build whilst focus on toxic gives the 6.1ish% skill cooldown which is always beneficial.

Use both

No. The difference between Power and Power Modifier. Skill Power is the Raw Skill Power. Skill Power Modifier is the Multiplier that is added to Skill Power. When you increase Skill Power, it increases Base Damage. When you increase Skill Power Modifier, it increases the Multiplier added on to the Base Damage.

that’s not at all what’s being talked about

Multiplier is for the DoT dmg and Skill Power is for Base Dmg increase. I’m a Valby main so Modifier is most important to me. But for a Bunny main, you might want to use just Skill Power or Attribute Skill Power (i.e Electric Frost Fire or Toxic)

@@DADofTWOjuju That's an over-simplification, but a decent rule of thumb. The reason why Skill Power Modifier is, as a general rule of thumb, what you want to go for if you're building a DoT Build and just Skill Power is what you want to go for if you're going for a Single Shot (Nuke) Build is what was explained in the video and what I mentioned. For DoT Skills, Base Skill Power tends to be higher than the Base Multiplier so increasing Skill Power Modifier to increase that Multiplier will, generally, net you a larger overall damage increase than increasing Skill Power alone. Whereas the single shot "nukes" tend to have higher Multipliers (as shown in the video) so you're already at or above the threshold for "Diminishing Returns" for Skill Power Modifier. Thus it's, generally, better to increase just Skill Power for those Skills. The reality, of course, is that you want to balance the two variables (Skill Power and Skill Power Modifier). The moment one variable becomes way higher than the other variable is when when you start running into "Diminishing Returns." TLDR: If you're not into Min/Maxing your Damage Output or even, at least, somewhat optimizing your Mod Usage, then your General Rule of Thumb works: Modifier for DoT and Skill Power for Nukes. However, I think it's important to know that if you do so, you do so with consequence and, potentially, pretty hefty consequence when it comes to damage output.

​@@DADofTWOjujutrue. Raw skill power on valby would mainly just benefit the initial skill hit on target.

Personally electric/singular is best if you're doing a mobbing kind of build. Slap in dura/cool down to keep her 3 active and then as much range as you can and boom. Ez mobbing

Power modifier is additive, if you add for example a module that gives 90% power modifier to a skill that has 6000% power modifier it becomes 6090%

In blair for example, the modifiers on his dots are miserably low, its like 8%, so if you add a module with 90% modifier it becomes 98% basically a 10 times damages increase, even if the modifier of his 4 direct hit is 6k, his overall damage comes from his dots, so you really want modifier anyway

Energy Activator + Using a module Socket on your sub module.

He used a energy activator which gave him more capacity then used the cyrstalaztion catalyst in each spot to match the modules symbol to cut the modules cost in half to give you more capacity to upgrade more

There is a lab specifically for testing in the game. Im always in there testing out my builds.

fire atk =dot damage for burn, it has a chance to proc it

lol apparently, but it just takes some time to farm the right mods and shards for upgrades

@@sidney4114 yeah you’re not wrong. Over exaggeration is not illegal maybe I’m just a grump lol