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Undertale Yellow - What happens if you KILL bosses in the Pacifist Route? 

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@ends9138
@ends9138 9 месяцев назад
"She's using you pal", said by a flower who's also using Clover for the 5 SOULS
@MugOfHotChoco
@MugOfHotChoco 8 месяцев назад
Flower's still not wrong though.
@ReehamToonz
@ReehamToonz 8 месяцев назад
Flowey is outta line, but he's right.
@alteralter462
@alteralter462 8 месяцев назад
Yea but... He wasn't wrong
@Al-AmeenAdewunmi
@Al-AmeenAdewunmi 7 месяцев назад
If the pot calls the kettle black, the kettle's still black.
@killerdiva7771
@killerdiva7771 7 месяцев назад
The difference between Flowey and Ceroba is that Flowey is actually useful before he betrays you😂
@saiashadoesstuff1133
@saiashadoesstuff1133 10 месяцев назад
the fact that martlet crashes the game if you get her hp to 0 is possibly the funniest part about this game
@luansobral1571
@luansobral1571 10 месяцев назад
yeah but the fact that she is literally the sans of the genocide route is even funnier
@thepichumaster9354
@thepichumaster9354 10 месяцев назад
@@luansobral1571Yea tbh I was thinking she was the papyrus of this game when really she is a combination
@luansobral1571
@luansobral1571 10 месяцев назад
so she is literal the strongest monster in the undertale yellow underground i mean she still get help from that thing that virus idk @@thepichumaster9354
@godofportal5905
@godofportal5905 10 месяцев назад
@@thepichumaster9354 Papyans or Sanyrus
@nosequeponerperoaquihayalgo
@nosequeponerperoaquihayalgo 10 месяцев назад
​@@godofportal5905pans
@voidraldarken
@voidraldarken 10 месяцев назад
I find it really sad how Starlo might have been assumed to have run away from all his problems when you kill him. Nobody witnessed his death, nobody expected or thought you might kill him, and he was at his lowest point in life. Everyone probably thought he decided to prioritise his delusion rather than his loved ones, and it is also even sadder when you consider how he never got to apologise.
@omermohammed5092
@omermohammed5092 10 месяцев назад
Wise words waluigi
@thecrimsonrayschaos5690
@thecrimsonrayschaos5690 10 месяцев назад
Waluigi Wisdoms@@omermohammed5092
@NuclearDuckie02
@NuclearDuckie02 9 месяцев назад
You immediately meet his family wondering what happened to him too.
@Heavy-TF2
@Heavy-TF2 7 месяцев назад
No one? Ceroba did, your killing intent is generalized during a neutral route so there’s no way for her to notice it went up because you killed Starlo, but during a pacifist run it’s pretty obvious
@MisterJohnDoe
@MisterJohnDoe 5 месяцев назад
Either that or Ceroba was in denial.
@isolatedegg3234
@isolatedegg3234 8 месяцев назад
El Bailador has got to be the saddest death for me. He just wants the Underground to be happier. The last thing he feels is regret that he "inconvenienced you". God he has to be my favorite miniboss
@lotsaspaghettimamaluigi
@lotsaspaghettimamaluigi 3 месяца назад
Imo he's one of the few bosses that you really don't have any justification for killing
@Trihexagonal
@Trihexagonal 3 месяца назад
@@lotsaspaghettimamaluigiforces me to dance for my life lol
@suitov
@suitov 2 месяца назад
By the time I finally beat him, which took way too long on easiest difficulty because I can't rhythm games, I was ready to kill him. (I nickname him El Uninstall, it was that frustrating.) Then later I got stuck on effing Starlo so... rip my ever finishing the game because the final pacifist battle will just be way beyond me.
@Gunshell66
@Gunshell66 Месяц назад
@@suitovstarlo is a real pain in the ass 4 hits and its jover i have more fun and a easier time with the final boss
@ringwuu
@ringwuu Месяц назад
His fight is hell on mobile I've tried over a dozen times already
@Myuutsuu85
@Myuutsuu85 10 месяцев назад
"You won!" It sure doesn't feel like winning.
@RavenGamingOverLord
@RavenGamingOverLord 10 месяцев назад
No cost too great
@aboogala4678
@aboogala4678 10 месяцев назад
​@@RavenGamingOverLordNo mind to think
@antymew
@antymew 10 месяцев назад
@@aboogala4678 No will to break
@aboogala4678
@aboogala4678 10 месяцев назад
@@antymew No voice to cry suffering
@savageravagetale
@savageravagetale 10 месяцев назад
born of god and void
@Crosstariale
@Crosstariale 10 месяцев назад
I love how everyone is experimenting with the game like they did with normal undertale
@krabbecorkorn
@krabbecorkorn 10 месяцев назад
Considering whats going on right now in the fandom and beyond i feel like that this fangames had the exact same impact then the original undertale and i love it
@jackatk
@jackatk 10 месяцев назад
As far as I’m concerned- this game is canon until proven otherwise by a major continuity error. It perfectly builds upon the world of undertale, and treats the story and themes of the original game with such care, while telling a completely unique story. I’m glad that the fandom is having fun like Undertale is new again :)
@Commander-peepers
@Commander-peepers 10 месяцев назад
I have been messing around with saves and extra flowey dialogue for the most part.
@crossbladegaming6651
@crossbladegaming6651 10 месяцев назад
imagine if we get fangames of this fangame lol
@sprwk11
@sprwk11 10 месяцев назад
​@@crossbladegaming6651imagine if creators make Deltarune Yellow
@HurricaneKXZ
@HurricaneKXZ 10 месяцев назад
“Why did I hesitate to fire that last bullet?” Hit me hard
@G_Gtox
@G_Gtox 9 месяцев назад
me sorprendio
@HurricaneKXZ
@HurricaneKXZ 9 месяцев назад
@@G_Gtox Es Que me había encariñado de starlo ya 😭
@R3MIX3R600
@R3MIX3R600 9 месяцев назад
⁠@@HurricaneKXZhe sucks moraly imo man tried to gun down a child because his Freinds left
@HurricaneKXZ
@HurricaneKXZ 9 месяцев назад
@@R3MIX3R600 I mean, other monsters would have gunned it down without hesitation, it was the law
@YukiSnow75
@YukiSnow75 9 месяцев назад
@@R3MIX3R600he had a reason 💀
@MemesSSChara
@MemesSSChara 10 месяцев назад
Martlet is so good, to the point that she crashes your game instead if your trying to kill her
@rawquikh0ney710
@rawquikh0ney710 10 месяцев назад
Sans need to take notes lul
@eurybiaball63
@eurybiaball63 9 месяцев назад
That’s why she is the character of all time
@pastatheh7041
@pastatheh7041 9 месяцев назад
A theory that makes absolutely no sense: Martlet has actual powers to crash the game to prevent dying. Its just that she didnt expect to die at the genocide fight
@andybsj
@andybsj 8 месяцев назад
​@@pastatheh7041undyne
@TheChill_OOF
@TheChill_OOF 7 месяцев назад
8:07 WHAT IS MARTLET DOING
@zaidimage2899
@zaidimage2899 10 месяцев назад
Nah flowey has to be the most savage character in this entire game. He feels like that one friend with no filter
@CJSpider10
@CJSpider10 10 месяцев назад
Well he is literally *soulless.*
@Tyson-i7r
@Tyson-i7r 9 месяцев назад
He's just like me for real😂
@thisissoepic6698
@thisissoepic6698 9 месяцев назад
​@@Tyson-i7romg you're so edgy and cool and edgy!!!
@beenings213
@beenings213 8 месяцев назад
@@Tyson-i7rbro is a plant
@Door227
@Door227 6 месяцев назад
Hes the one guy you cant invite to any group chat aside from the main one where no has any filter
@itsmetrojay
@itsmetrojay 10 месяцев назад
Fun fact: Flowey in the Neutral Route has the power to transform into these bosses depending on which of them you kill
@edybarczak293
@edybarczak293 10 месяцев назад
But what happens in the flowey battle if you kill just the regular enemies and spare the bosses?
@TheBESTRamenOfAllTime
@TheBESTRamenOfAllTime 10 месяцев назад
That’s true,I tried it myself
@richardgossman7737
@richardgossman7737 10 месяцев назад
@@edybarczak293I have no idea, maybe try it yourself?
@lvoryRose
@lvoryRose 10 месяцев назад
Nothing special, I mean... They're just regular monsters​@@edybarczak293
@melvint-p9500
@melvint-p9500 10 месяцев назад
​@@edybarczak293those attacks just don't happen
@whitros_whitbros3653
@whitros_whitbros3653 10 месяцев назад
Axis's Death is the one that got me the most because in the point of view of the story Ceroba clearly trusted you but then when you kill someone infront of Ceroba, Ceroba goes: "why" and just leaves you
@pora5000
@pora5000 10 месяцев назад
She just “trusted” you for having a pure soul because she needs a pure soul to carry out Chujin’s legacy. She’s still using you so eh
@nothingboie7329
@nothingboie7329 10 месяцев назад
I think Star's is even sadder, to make a long comment from someone se short, "Starlo is most likely to be assumed to have run away from his problems, living out his delusions without even saying goodbye to anyone, or possibly even worse, after they don't find him for a while throughout the entire underground, they may think he commited suicide after a certain period of time, because no one saw him die, no one expected you to kill him either."
@brontegoodman6238
@brontegoodman6238 10 месяцев назад
...but nobody came.
@darksoulsismycity
@darksoulsismycity 10 месяцев назад
@@pora5000 It's also because you just destroyed one of the most important pieces of Chujin's legacy when she explicitly said to not do it at the beginning, so that just rubs more salt into the wound
@Atomic_Her
@Atomic_Her 10 месяцев назад
Chujin is just a cruel, hypocritical animal who killed her daughter for the sake of a ghostly hope and wants to kill the child.
@Ruesen
@Ruesen 10 месяцев назад
Gotta say, this game did a good job on Martlet. She's like a more articulated Papyrus, giving you more chances while still protecting herself. Neutral? She's willing to help you out. Aborted genocide? She scolds you, but is willing to give you a chance (though not really forgive, understandably). Pacificts until final moments? Completely understands. Good to finally have someone state that yeah, self defense or panic can happen.
@johay899
@johay899 9 месяцев назад
True
@CreeperLumine
@CreeperLumine 9 месяцев назад
I loved her! But I have to admit, if she was put into any less skilled hands, she probably would have been extremely annoying sweat😅
@omegahaxors9-11
@omegahaxors9-11 9 месяцев назад
@@CreeperLumine It's because they're not doing it to be nice. They're expressing a huge character flaw.
@TheSoulCalledZuzia
@TheSoulCalledZuzia 8 месяцев назад
Agreed
@amaro.7546
@amaro.7546 5 месяцев назад
Martlet is just the "copy" of papyrus in feminine, with a lot of plot armor, forced relevance and protection by the writers. The fact that you can't even kill her on a pacifist route, saving her in her first bossfight of the genocidal route and that she is the final boss, there being many more interesting characters for that role. In addition, they try to force her as a companion when you spend most of the game alone or with ceroba and only at the end she is your companion, which hinders the game, since it prevents us from leaving hotland to get gold or extra food This is called author blindness and not good character construction.
@CaduThoons
@CaduThoons 7 месяцев назад
The monsters killed: 5 humans Clover killed: 5 monsters Justice 💛
@Pie10000
@Pie10000 10 месяцев назад
I love how Ceroba blames YOU for failing her mission she didnt even tell you about lol thats just trash behaviour
@jacedostal4399
@jacedostal4399 10 месяцев назад
Are you going to go up to someone and say "Hey can you not kill anything, I need your soul to be pure so I can take it for a science experiment. Thanks!" And then still expect them to trust you and/or not fight you
@Pie10000
@Pie10000 10 месяцев назад
Yeah but being mad when they do kill someone is just unreasonable especially because it was self defense@@jacedostal4399
@marinagaleotti
@marinagaleotti 9 месяцев назад
@jacedostal4399 also, how the f would clover know that killing a souless robot wpuld corrupt his soul?
@jacedostal4399
@jacedostal4399 9 месяцев назад
@@marinagaleotti I never said Clover would know whether killing any of the robots would corrupt his soul
@jacedostal4399
@jacedostal4399 9 месяцев назад
@@Pie10000 That's fair, I was just saying that Ceroba telling Clover about her mission would not go well at that point in the story
@thisisausername9356
@thisisausername9356 10 месяцев назад
I remember accidentally killing El Bailador in my Neutral Route because of how he didn't acknowledge getting hit so I assumed that "attacking" him would just be dancing back and also his attacks were annoying me
@JayZ69000
@JayZ69000 9 месяцев назад
Rhythm games are not fun
@thisisausername9356
@thisisausername9356 9 месяцев назад
They are for a lot of people but I'm fully willing to admit I suck at them lmao
@lascurthecoolestwolf
@lascurthecoolestwolf 9 месяцев назад
​@@JayZ69000boooo
@DragonMaster1818
@DragonMaster1818 2 месяца назад
Bro just wanted to dance, that’s sad. Even sadder since he didn’t even notice you were attacking at all.
@valutakoshelok2879
@valutakoshelok2879 10 месяцев назад
I'm actually interested in what happens when you kill someone like Guardener or Jandroid while Ceroba is your companion.
@isaquedopao6667
@isaquedopao6667 10 месяцев назад
nothin im assuming, they don't give EXP i think
@valutakoshelok2879
@valutakoshelok2879 10 месяцев назад
@@isaquedopao6667 just checked the scenario myself. I killed both the first Jandroid and Guardener, and after I peacefully resolved Axis, Ceroba abandons the mission. Just in a calmer way than if you destroyed Axis.
@isaquedopao6667
@isaquedopao6667 10 месяцев назад
@@valutakoshelok2879 good to know, thanks for checking
@QuokkaWaka
@QuokkaWaka 10 месяцев назад
​@@valutakoshelok2879 Wait so afterwards you get a neutral ending with 0 EXP? And I'm assuming it plays out the same as regular neutral, which feels a little off, but oh well
@valutakoshelok2879
@valutakoshelok2879 10 месяцев назад
@@QuokkaWaka You do. Martlet's lines differ depending if it's Abandoned Pacifist (in our case - yes), Abandoned No Mercy/Vengeance (if route is abandoned after beating Wild East boss) our just Neutral where kills are random (I suppose, I haven't checked the conditions myself)
@spencerhiginbotham7538
@spencerhiginbotham7538 10 месяцев назад
"I would've been a good friend. I would've." Says the guy who doesn't even show up again until after you die.
@moony2249
@moony2249 10 месяцев назад
He does show up for your funeral though. Almost fitting for a vampire
@SadDrifter
@SadDrifter 10 месяцев назад
@@moony2249that’s what he said
@Georgie_Denbrough
@Georgie_Denbrough 10 месяцев назад
but he invites you to visit him in Snowdin... i did that
@spunishbread
@spunishbread 10 месяцев назад
@@moony2249 when you get back to snowdin he actually is building his home and stuff, he also sent out a letter so i made sure to get back to snowdin (backtracked) before i went back to chujin's house
@zombipro739
@zombipro739 9 месяцев назад
I play in it, and i wanna tell: if you check letter's - he send you letter in one of moment
@harrisonfackrell
@harrisonfackrell 10 месяцев назад
Starlo really handled it with grace. These death scenes are some of my favorite parts of UTY. In witnessing them, I really feel for the characters.
@niklosweber5759
@niklosweber5759 10 месяцев назад
Let’s talk about killing Axis. Not Ceroba’s reaction. But what he says when you land the final blow. He calls for help… *But nobody came… That’s depressing.
@jodiriddle
@jodiriddle 8 месяцев назад
Don't make me depressed bro
@Finn_the_Cat
@Finn_the_Cat 20 дней назад
Just like that little lost soul he killed
@kanhelder3897
@kanhelder3897 10 месяцев назад
"She was using you" ~ Flowey
@Wintericecrystal
@Wintericecrystal 10 месяцев назад
He wasn't lying either.
@s0ullessness
@s0ullessness 9 месяцев назад
i wish 😏
@HowwieZowwie
@HowwieZowwie 9 месяцев назад
Literal pixels bro chill
@thenyan3095
@thenyan3095 9 месяцев назад
@@s0ullessness jail
@saumyatyagi6763
@saumyatyagi6763 9 месяцев назад
Why​@@thenyan3095
@Flygoniaks
@Flygoniaks 10 месяцев назад
Martlet crashing the game if you get her to 0 HP actually makes a lot of sense once you realize it's not Martlet's doing, but Flowey's. Given Clover's current location, she's pretty much the only way for them to progress, so Flowey resets in order to move the story along. (Clover _does_ pilot Ava by themselves in the genocide route... but I'll give the devs a pass since she's crucial to the neutral ending)
@Spelo1
@Spelo1 9 месяцев назад
Yeah.... No. If it was flowey, and not just an oversight of the devs, the game would just load last checkpoint, not outright crash the game as a whole
@AttmozGlaishur
@AttmozGlaishur 9 месяцев назад
@@Spelo1it’s a fun theory man
@starleine
@starleine 9 месяцев назад
You can't actually bring Martlet to 0 HP in a regular fight, she just retreats when on low HP. Flowey wouldn't mind us killing her at all, we can still steal her raft when she retreats, and Flowey very much _doesn't_ want Martlet around. The game crashes because you're not supposed to be _able_ to kill her.
@lamotou4banana383
@lamotou4banana383 9 месяцев назад
It isn't ​@@AttmozGlaishur
@sevensouls009
@sevensouls009 9 месяцев назад
⁠​⁠@@starleineYou can actually bring Martlet’s HP to 0 without messing with the game at all by switching your ammo to one with more ATK at the last shot. Again, the devs probably just forgot, but it’s fun to come up with theories, makes the game a little more fun.
@Ms.Toriel
@Ms.Toriel 10 месяцев назад
Dalv's death is so sad and for what
@saltapple2769
@saltapple2769 10 месяцев назад
LITERALLY. 😭
@johay899
@johay899 10 месяцев назад
One of the saddest in the whole game, if you ask me
@Konoshi_08
@Konoshi_08 10 месяцев назад
HE DIDNT DESERVE THAT
@Fitilechka
@Fitilechka 10 месяцев назад
i cried over his death back in the demo and it was the saddest experience i've ever had in this game 🥲…
@HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle
@HiAgainTheNameIsStillAyle 10 месяцев назад
I literally quit genocide when I read his diary
@WillieManga
@WillieManga 10 месяцев назад
Somehow, killing just one of these characters is even sadder than killing all of them. Dlav full on feels the betrayal, Bailador blames himself, Star tries to stay positive but fears death, Ceroba gets pissed that you broke her husband's creation or embraces death, depending on which one you kill, and... I'm guessing Flowey nopes you out of killing Martie since even he thinks killing her is just too low.
@jacedostal4399
@jacedostal4399 10 месяцев назад
Ceroba was also mad because killing Axis in that state also means your soul isn't pure anymore, so then she couldn't fulfill the mission Chujin left her
@X-SPONGED
@X-SPONGED 10 месяцев назад
Flowey probably nopes outta Martlet because he thinks she's your only way to get to the palace since she's a royal guard
@Terraxmas
@Terraxmas 10 месяцев назад
Pretty sure Bailador blames himslelf like this if you kill him in any of the routes
@EmmyEntropy2000
@EmmyEntropy2000 9 месяцев назад
⁠@@X-SPONGEDyeah he definitely doesn’t think killing Martlet is “too low” since he kills her without regret in the neutral route
@papyrussemi2848
@papyrussemi2848 8 месяцев назад
I'm pretty sure that once you open fire martlet just ejects herself from the situation
@pitchvantablack7005
@pitchvantablack7005 10 месяцев назад
Man, I hate the sad scenes with El Bailador, he's just a funky guy who wants to dance and his day gets ruined :(
@lascurthecoolestwolf
@lascurthecoolestwolf 9 месяцев назад
True...
@masterblaster38
@masterblaster38 10 месяцев назад
There is an actual lore explanation for AXIS getting EXP. You can get it in the pacifist route by getting a tape which is buried in the place where the grave of [redacted] is (The grave is at the left, wheb you inter the area go through the left). I don't know if you can only interact with it after you saw the starting tapes or if you can get it inmediadly when going into the area. But it gives some Lore explanation of why AXIS gives EXP when killed.
@stasoleinik8501
@stasoleinik8501 10 месяцев назад
Do you mean it implies that there is a human soul inside of axis.
@circumplex9552
@circumplex9552 10 месяцев назад
​@stasoleinik8501 no, axis just killed a human. the blue soul, to be specific (thats how chujin acquired it in the first place). axis also mentions it during its genocide fight.
@stasoleinik8501
@stasoleinik8501 10 месяцев назад
@@circumplex9552 oh yeah makes sense
@Georgie_Denbrough
@Georgie_Denbrough 10 месяцев назад
wait, i didn't get that tape and i touched the grave
@masterblaster38
@masterblaster38 10 месяцев назад
@@Georgie_Denbrough you need to check behind the grave, not the grave Itself.
@Hi-oj3pp
@Hi-oj3pp 10 месяцев назад
the el bailador is more sad than all of these deaths
@xromanthebest
@xromanthebest 10 месяцев назад
Bro...💀
@roxas5071
@roxas5071 10 месяцев назад
YOU DONT SAY THE EL BAILADOR EL MEANS THE JUST SAY EL BAILADOR
@nomihabo9752
@nomihabo9752 10 месяцев назад
True...
@DietermiGamzD125
@DietermiGamzD125 10 месяцев назад
Yep :(
@internetidiot9877
@internetidiot9877 10 месяцев назад
@@roxas5071 the the dancer
@bluemario610
@bluemario610 9 месяцев назад
3:55 "It wasn't your fault this happened, don't apologize" OOF
@mael9391
@mael9391 10 месяцев назад
wonder whats the aftermath from these, this game surely still needs to be explored, theres an reason about why it took 7 years to be ready
@zian01000
@zian01000 10 месяцев назад
True
@spoopy-guy
@spoopy-guy 10 месяцев назад
they created an entire fun value system btw
@niklosweber5759
@niklosweber5759 8 месяцев назад
@@spoopy-guy They what?!
@spoopy-guy
@spoopy-guy 8 месяцев назад
@@niklosweber5759 you can meet gerson A guy in a chair ( 2 scenarios ) Have a duck Have 3 variations of the pillar drawings and more.
@shame2189
@shame2189 10 месяцев назад
Pretty weird how when you kill starlo in cold blood he's like "yeah ig i had this coming" but when you kill Ceroba he goes "SHE USED TO BE A LOVING MOTHER". My brother in christ the both of you had it coming
@redactedinfo8557
@redactedinfo8557 10 месяцев назад
people react differently to different situations all the time. do you really expect him to think rationally when his best friend from childhood just died?
@InsertFunnyThingHere
@InsertFunnyThingHere 10 месяцев назад
​@@redactedinfo8557I still think that starlo probabbly should have been more understanding of Clovers situation, like him hating clover and being distraught over the death of his best friend feels believable but I don't really know if his reaction to the whole situation is quite in character for him
@spoopy-guy
@spoopy-guy 10 месяцев назад
@@InsertFunnyThingHere starlo hates himself He died running away from all his problems and no one witnessed his death No one suspected you as the killer From the other's perspective starlo ran off in own delusion
@spoopy-guy
@spoopy-guy 10 месяцев назад
@@redactedinfo8557 @InsertFunnyThingHere starlo hates himself He died running away from all his problems and no one witnessed his death No one suspected you as the killer From the other's perspective starlo ran off in own delusion Starlo is happy with him dying because he tor the people that loved him apart He thought he is useless and is okay with dying Meanwhile Starlo knew ceroba had a family A daughter ( a daughter which is alive in starlo's eyes considering ceroba never lived to tell the truth ) People who cared about ceroba
@InsertFunnyThingHere
@InsertFunnyThingHere 10 месяцев назад
@@spoopy-guy I'm talking about the ceroba death in pacific idk what that has to do with anything
@ゼロアーク
@ゼロアーク 8 месяцев назад
Just like the original undertale. They made you EVEN more guilty if you betray them rather than killing them repeatedly. Undertale Yellow is just a really good fangame
@XD-lc5ur
@XD-lc5ur 8 месяцев назад
There are two things I absolutely love of this game: 1) when you win by killing a monster it doesn’t really feel like winning,specially in a neutral run 2) There is no happy ending at all
@squirlis1189
@squirlis1189 4 месяца назад
Ironically g*nocide ending is the best outcome for clover since it's the only one where he makes it out of the underground alive and succeeds in what he came for by rescuing the 6 human souls
@StarMisura
@StarMisura 4 месяца назад
The pacifist ending is the happy ending. Just because you died doesn’t mean it’s instantly a bad ending since Clover willingly sacrificed their soul. If Clover didn’t do that, it’s most likely that the monsters won’t be free for who knows how long. Clover also fulfills their “Justice” role because none of the monsters deserve to be locked away for what their ancestors did in the past
@StarMisura
@StarMisura 4 месяца назад
@@squirlis1189best outcome for Clover, but also worse outcome for the next generations of monsters to come. Clover won’t fulfill their role as “Justice” because the monsters didn’t deserve to be trapped because of what their ancestors did
@XD-lc5ur
@XD-lc5ur 4 месяца назад
@@StarMisura it’s bitter sweet in the end,if you play neutral then Pacifist you realize that,in the end,Clover was no more than a cog and he never got to know if his sacrifice was worth something
@a_major_in_stupidity
@a_major_in_stupidity 10 месяцев назад
i think it would be awesome if we get to see the characters interact when one of them kills clover. i think it would be cool to see martlets and starlos reaction when ceroba kills you. or it would be sad if Mr. guitar hero kills you unintentionally, when his only intention was to dance. or just how heartbroken dalv would be after killing you, etc. i think it would add a lot more depth to the characters.
@absooool
@absooool 9 месяцев назад
I wanna see what happens after the Feisty Five kill you.
@j3wos
@j3wos 9 месяцев назад
@@absooool Starlo would probably be broken for long, if not forever that his friends are killers
@tarinsherper9230
@tarinsherper9230 3 месяца назад
Imagine how Ceroba would have reacted if Axis managed to kill Clover...
@CreeperLumine
@CreeperLumine 9 месяцев назад
I think my favorite character is Starlo. He is funny. He is deep. He is kind. He is blunt. The breakup with his posse is something that happens every day, probably. The creators really did that realistically, damn. He never gets overblown except for when you kill Ceroba, and even then it was kinda understandable. I mean, he just lost his best friend. Give that man a break. Anyways, I like Starlo.
@Freckolwiishees
@Freckolwiishees 7 месяцев назад
I like him too.
@therockcims4166
@therockcims4166 7 месяцев назад
The worst character.
@jissmol8738
@jissmol8738 6 месяцев назад
same he's my fav
@jackatk
@jackatk 10 месяцев назад
5:45 I think Ceroba kinda overreacts towards you killing a murderous robot in self defense… I mean I get her husband made it, but there’s no way Chujin would’ve valued the robot over an innocent person’s life
@mythicalmew6054
@mythicalmew6054 10 месяцев назад
Spoilers, of course. Don't read ahead unless you're prepared. As she alludes to afterward, she's upset for two reasons. The first is the value she put in her husband's work and his legacy. But more importantly, it's because your SOUL is effectively impure because you have killed. That means her actual mission, to find and then resuscitate her daughter, is doomed to fail because you're no better than the sample that DID fail. Understandably, she would be very upset by this, and it's why she's also very careful about not letting you kill anything.
@jackatk
@jackatk 10 месяцев назад
@@mythicalmew6054 Ohh that makes sense! Thanks! Kinda sucks that she’s just using clover though lol
@mythicalmew6054
@mythicalmew6054 10 месяцев назад
@@jackatk Certainly, but at the same time I have trouble blaming her. She's desperate and she knows that you're the solution to both saving her daughter and possibly saving the Underground, and she desperately wants both. I wouldn't say she's exactly RIGHT in that situation, but I can't say she's a bad person either. I personally see it as just a really tragic situation that nobody deserved to be shoved into. Like she says, she's made her mistakes just like everybody else, and she's desperate to fix them. What makes her different from Alphys and Asgore is that she's actually willing to FIX them instead of twiddling her thumbs and hiding her mistakes for all time. She had to wait, certainly, but that was out of requirement (needing a human to fall down) instead of simply being a coward (Alphys hiding the truth of her experiments; Asgore not crossing the barrier as Toriel criticizes him on in base Undertale).
@Pihsrosnec
@Pihsrosnec 10 месяцев назад
​@@mythicalmew6054where is it stated she's trying to revive her daughter? starlo even confronts her about trying to harvest her own daughters soul and she doesn't deny it, instead saying that she already knows what she's doing is wrong.
@mythicalmew6054
@mythicalmew6054 10 месяцев назад
@@Pihsrosnec Her goal seems to be twofold. The first is to actually complete the serum. For that to be possible, Kanako needs to at least be technically alive (i.e. fallen down). Ceroba also never intended for anything bad to happen to Kanako, the process only involves harvesting a human SOUL. If it's done right, the monster's SOUL is not negatively impacted in any way. Now it's true that Ceroba doesn't actually have a way to outright revive her daughter (with her current knowledge), but I get an implication from her dialogue that she's hoping for a miracle to happen, even if she knows it's unlikely.
@terrariaenjoyer420
@terrariaenjoyer420 9 месяцев назад
this game *can* replicate the feeling that Undertale does. you dont want to kill them, they make u regret ur decisions
@luis-sophus-8227
@luis-sophus-8227 9 месяцев назад
Except it isn't as pretentious as Undertale
@bumbabees
@bumbabees 9 месяцев назад
​@@luis-sophus-8227why do you think undertale was pretentious?
@luis-sophus-8227
@luis-sophus-8227 9 месяцев назад
@@bumbabees Watch "Why I hate Undertale" and read the recent comments. But in short: Most characters in the game are bad people, (Toriel, Undyne, Alphys) and the game forces you to feel guilty for mistreating them. I will not go too in-depth, I am already exhausted from having to explain myself each time
@robotic_chazzie
@robotic_chazzie 8 месяцев назад
​​@@luis-sophus-8227Most characters are morally grey people. The game might make you feel guilty because these people are doing things for a greater good(undyne, alphys)/ don't intentionally harm you at least in neutral/pacifist (alphys, toriel)
@luis-sophus-8227
@luis-sophus-8227 8 месяцев назад
@@robotic_chazzie They are very obnoxious people, no wonder why the humans sealed them
@zidebo5849
@zidebo5849 10 месяцев назад
flowey actually has a point after axis’ death. ceroba acted kinda irrational there. axis didn’t deserve that though
@saiyanfang1047
@saiyanfang1047 10 месяцев назад
Axis definitely does deserve it.
@zidebo5849
@zidebo5849 10 месяцев назад
@@saiyanfang1047 just because his fight is hard doesn’t mean he deserves death.(i’m assuming that’s the reason) he genuinely seems extremely guilty about killing that human and does whatever he can to keep the other robots safe in the genocide route.
@saiyanfang1047
@saiyanfang1047 10 месяцев назад
@@zidebo5849 However he's still always trying to kill you.
@zidebo5849
@zidebo5849 10 месяцев назад
@@saiyanfang1047 so is nearly every undertale character ever
@saiyanfang1047
@saiyanfang1047 10 месяцев назад
@@zidebo5849 Kinda the point.
@nyllcn
@nyllcn Месяц назад
"Why did i hesitate to deliver that last bullet..." GEEZ 😭😭
@Bluedino152
@Bluedino152 10 месяцев назад
Killing axis and thus engaging in act that would make Ceroba want to kill you. Meaning that she therefore cannot actually kill you without it being meaningless Clover you genius
@Pudding404
@Pudding404 9 месяцев назад
The whole desert theme and dust. When Star says to tell his parents that he'll be out, he's alluding to no evidence and no one saw what happened so there would be no way to know what happened to him or traces of a body. Always did love the whole monsters turning to dust aspect. Almost as if the sands of the desert are monster dust.
@OverSteam
@OverSteam 10 месяцев назад
Y'all forgetting about Decibat. I count him as a boss since he appears in the flowey battle in neutral. And Gardener as well. Maybe decibat would do nothing but make it Neutral and Gardener wont do anything at all.
@cwg141
@cwg141 10 месяцев назад
Decibat can be skipped if you kill too fast, so maybe people just forget about him. Same with the dancing dude, had to remind myself not to just blast everyone so I could fight him during genocide
@OverSteam
@OverSteam 10 месяцев назад
@@cwg141 yeah just happened to remember him at the last moment.
@ivandreuxzuev9473
@ivandreuxzuev9473 10 месяцев назад
Decibat didn't even show in my run.
@dylanzlol7293
@dylanzlol7293 9 месяцев назад
​@@cwg141the dancing dude is still gonna be popular because people struggled with him on the other routes
@theshadowworld2239
@theshadowworld2239 6 месяцев назад
"Happiness has always been wishful thinking down here." GOD DAMN.
@tracewyrm
@tracewyrm 10 месяцев назад
now I'm wondering what happens if you attack the feisty four. does it even give you enough terms to wipe anyone out? does it change anything?
@Ignisium
@Ignisium 10 месяцев назад
I tried, they all have way too much HP for you to be able to kill them in time. Maybe if you kill most of the monsters up until then and keep it neutral?
@andrzej8144
@andrzej8144 10 месяцев назад
​@@IgnisiumStill too much hp. the only option is to just change the files to make your attack bigger. If you depleted them to 0 it would probably crash
@Phoenixfire653
@Phoenixfire653 10 месяцев назад
I've tested it out on a whim, the game glitches and uses dalv's sprite for whoever you killed while just continuing on as if the battle ended the normal way. No rewards, no exp gained.
@FroststormFrenzy
@FroststormFrenzy 10 месяцев назад
@@Phoenixfire653 Martlet does that as well, if she doesn't crash
@finnvaneekelen4966
@finnvaneekelen4966 10 месяцев назад
I also wonder how killing one of the regular enemies in the steamworks whould look
@Emuotori_fr
@Emuotori_fr 10 месяцев назад
Look, I like Ceroba as a character, but can we agree on how stupid Cerroba's reaction to Axis' death is?
@cmybilly9237
@cmybilly9237 10 месяцев назад
Ceroba does need a pure soul afterall, that is all she want,but you killed Axis,your soul is no longer pure and your soul is basically useless to her now.
@Emuotori_fr
@Emuotori_fr 10 месяцев назад
@@cmybilly9237 fair point
@180fuckalotseveneleven3
@180fuckalotseveneleven3 10 месяцев назад
​@cmybilly9237 that and also it was one of Chujin's last creations. She's been telling you this whole time not to kill Axis because of this, and you still do it anyways. Even though it could also just be because of wanting your soul to be pure, I'm sure that she does want this for the other reason, too. After all, she is trying to carry out his last plan. She would also want to preserve things of Chujin's as well.
@tristanraine
@tristanraine 10 месяцев назад
No. I won't agree. It's the last being that Chujin has made and still functioning, and the fact that her entire plan depended on Clover being pure, them gaining a level of violence during this point means going at the lengths of the route of what the blue soul did, which is very important to what happened to Chujin and Ceroba. So, no. It's not stupid.
@Emuotori_fr
@Emuotori_fr 10 месяцев назад
@@tristanraine okay good point
@gamercentral2417
@gamercentral2417 10 месяцев назад
Why are all of these so sad (especially starlos)
@zyxey
@zyxey 10 месяцев назад
have you done the revenge kills in undertale? they can be pretty sad too.
@PoyoPowerPlant
@PoyoPowerPlant 10 месяцев назад
Starlo’s is the second saddest death in my opinion. With context, it’s even worse. He’s been your partner for the whole western town section until this point, where you finally win a fatal dualduel and he just…accepts it. What he accepts is your choice, not his fate, and he’s not ready to fade from existence now.
@gamercentral2417
@gamercentral2417 10 месяцев назад
@@zyxey yes, I’ve grinded neutral for most endings. I still just like some of these characters more
@Kikonut15
@Kikonut15 3 месяца назад
To add insult to injury, if you go to starlos house after killing him, the family thinks of the possibility that starlo commited sewer slide. And considering they never knew what happened to him… yeah they probably just stuck with that. So that’s fun
@crossedpawsgacha8702
@crossedpawsgacha8702 10 месяцев назад
Axis calling out to his creator for help, not knowing he’s deceased ☹️
@froggyQ
@froggyQ 5 месяцев назад
6:35 Flowey is damn right. The robot is trying to kill you, you knock it off for self-defence, and Ceroba like: Screw you.
@rihcdar
@rihcdar 10 месяцев назад
also a thing im kinda curious about is if like. you can abort genocide by listening to flowey after he says that killing the robots isn't really necessary. they don't give any exp except for axis so like. does that transition into a neutral route where ceroba is dead? (something is quite literally impossible since you never actually fight her) i might try that out if i can get past her, since the only other time you can fight her is pacifist and i'd assume most of us know how that plays out lol. it kinda reminds me in a way of how you get the alphys ending in undertale, except if you had to kill alphys to get it. and it probably would only effect the flowey fight by giving you a spooky undead version of her but still
@sergiorodriguez6719
@sergiorodriguez6719 10 месяцев назад
Yeah it cancela the Geno route and you Just get a neutral
@saintmotel7813
@saintmotel7813 10 месяцев назад
it cancels the genocide route because axis never admits to killing that one child so you dont get as much insane exp gain
@hay403
@hay403 10 месяцев назад
i actually did this by accident i missed a single robot and axis never revealed he terminated the previous human thus giving you no Love from defeating him and then you go to the neutral boss
@achour.falestine
@achour.falestine 10 месяцев назад
Oh thank God I killed all those innocent robots I would've just killed myself if I had to fight ceroba again
@badiskool9159
@badiskool9159 10 месяцев назад
​@@hay403me to and the worst part is that i did not know this and saved only realizing that clovers face is different in the elevator
@dvzz6285
@dvzz6285 7 месяцев назад
The worst thing about betrayal is that it comes from trusted ones.
@TangySauce
@TangySauce 10 месяцев назад
oh god these BROKE ME THE WAY STARLO IS HEARTBROKEN UNDERSTANDABLE, HIS CHILDHOOD FRIEND, WHO HAS BEEN THROUGH SO MUCH YET IS SO CARING DEEP DOWN, IS GUNNED DOWN IN A SIMILAR STATE HE HAD BEEN SAVED FROM HOURS EARLIER BY SOMEONE HE TRUSTED AND WAS PROUD OF AND ALL THESE OTHERS ARE JUST, OH MY GOD.
@luis-sophus-8227
@luis-sophus-8227 9 месяцев назад
Not another flag please... stop it with the flags
@TangySauce
@TangySauce 9 месяцев назад
@@luis-sophus-8227 Oh wah wah wah keep crying baby
@danaa-
@danaa- 9 месяцев назад
​​@@luis-sophus-8227never grew up, eh? It doesnt matter. It has never mattered. Why do you care so much for something that hasnt nor evef harm you in any meaningful way?
@luis-sophus-8227
@luis-sophus-8227 9 месяцев назад
@@danaa- Staying silent won't help this world get fixed. I will end the delusion agenda.
@danaa-
@danaa- 9 месяцев назад
​@@luis-sophus-8227"i will end this delusion agenda" stop talking like you're the main character. Also blindly following our feelings in spite of science and fact has been a thing since the dawn of humanity, i dont know how this is much different.
@lamaoma
@lamaoma 9 месяцев назад
I am so sorry for killing the man who shoot me repeatedly I am so sorry for destroying a robot designed to kill humanity, and foiling plans of a traitor who wants my soul those 2 kills were kind of justified, please change my mind
@ithinkitspurble
@ithinkitspurble 9 месяцев назад
ok niko from one shot
@lamaoma
@lamaoma 9 месяцев назад
Niko woke up and choose violence
@certyguy
@certyguy 9 месяцев назад
Since you are basically inmortal you should try not to kill people even in self defense
@lamaoma
@lamaoma 9 месяцев назад
Clover is not. They might even loose memory between loads, not only resets. Also, none of them knew that. They were fully prepared to conciously murder a child. there ARE better options, but without meta experience, most logical way to end some of this conflicts would be a bullet. For now I only killed Starlo (Flowey Steamworks and Neutral ending), and I do not regret it that much, despite all the exp I got from that. Sorry for bad english and rambling
@certyguy
@certyguy 9 месяцев назад
@@lamaoma Clover IS basically inmortal though, even if they lose the memory of what happens after a savepoint, they should remember that they can save (or well the fact that Flowey helps them to save)
@Speak22wastaken
@Speak22wastaken 9 месяцев назад
8:14 it would be awesome if we got a more dangerous Starlo for flawed pacifist
@suitov
@suitov 2 месяца назад
Undertale Yellow is much more challenging to finish pacifist because most of the bosses are completely terrible people (or complete nothing-burgers, in Dalv's case at the time you fight him) instead of good-but-misguided. It's clever when you think about it. Makes you really agonise over justice vs mercy in a way I hadn't done since sparing Flowey in UT.
@Al-AmeenAdewunmi
@Al-AmeenAdewunmi 4 дня назад
Why do you think that?
@kever905
@kever905 9 месяцев назад
"Maybe I shouldn't try to kill you...." Clover: SO ANYWAY I STARTED BLASTING
@coolDude-sx6we
@coolDude-sx6we 2 месяца назад
The wind blowing the dust away is extra sad because the dust is what they use for monster funerals.
@concur9248
@concur9248 10 месяцев назад
Ceroba blaming a small child after dragging them with her is just wild to me. Like it's my life or the damn robot what is your problem? I can't wait to get started on my genocide run just so I can delete her. I know fighting the bird is not gonna be fun
@martinpachu7125
@martinpachu7125 10 месяцев назад
its because chujin put so much work into Axis,it was almost like a second child to him,but,also,pacifist spoilers She needed a pure soul for her plan
@concur9248
@concur9248 10 месяцев назад
@@martinpachu7125 I know I finished the run 2 days ago. I couldn't care less, is there a way to kill her in genocide? Asking for a friend of course
@MasterIsabelle
@MasterIsabelle 10 месяцев назад
The amount of people who can’t handle a morally grey character is outstanding
@concur9248
@concur9248 10 месяцев назад
@@MasterIsabelle Absolutely blasted her in the genocide route
@MasterIsabelle
@MasterIsabelle 10 месяцев назад
@@concur9248 absolutely annihilated
@rihcdar
@rihcdar 10 месяцев назад
god i hate the betrayal kill dalv dialogue it SUCKS. it's GOOD and fits i just. ough i wanted to see what would happen and then i immediately reset because that fuckin!!! sucked. poor dalv man i love him so much. he isnt in the game too much but he's my fav anyway. ceroba being a close second.
@lunastifaliamusic
@lunastifaliamusic 5 месяцев назад
When I played this for the first time, I thought the final turn in Starlo's battle was us doing a true duel against eachother. Needless to say, I reset as soon as possible.
@ElectricOrange
@ElectricOrange 9 месяцев назад
Martlet in genocide: dies even after throwing everything she has and injecting herself with serum Martlet in pacifist:
@tiger43236
@tiger43236 10 месяцев назад
I'm with flowey on killing axis only in self defense
@greyscaleadaven
@greyscaleadaven 10 месяцев назад
@R3TRlS Also why does AXIS give EXP? Do we know that? Because none of the other robots do, maybe I'm missing something though. I know that he kills a human at one point, does that give him some kind of special condition to give EXP? Or is it something to do with Chujin's engineering? Maybe exposure to that growth in the lab? Idk, seems like there might be something to the fact that the game makes it a point to specifically call the player out for killing robots which don't give EXP, only for AXIS to have such a weird relationship to LV (In geno, Clover gains LV non-sequentially as well against AXIS).
@GCalebB
@GCalebB 10 месяцев назад
​@@greyscaleadaven in geno Axis saya that he haven't another option than "neutralize" a human, thing that made Clober put his shit out But, again, why axis gives xp? Because before acus dies he says "wait, i didn't want to mean that", so he hasn't a humn soul? Has the choujin soul?
@greyscaleadaven
@greyscaleadaven 10 месяцев назад
​@@GCalebB I guess we don't know what Chujin does before he dies exactly (we do know how he dies though so that's not possible unfortunately), I could see him using some soul extract on AXIS. We know that Mettaton dies and gives EXP because he has a soul, so that would track.
@GCalebB
@GCalebB 10 месяцев назад
@@greyscaleadaven would make more sense is mettaton-like
@sheogorath6834
@sheogorath6834 10 месяцев назад
@@greyscaleadaven Mettaton gave exp because he's a ghost.
@Thankedsphere99
@Thankedsphere99 21 день назад
Offguard kills always hit the hardest. Both literally, and figuratively.
@Metahunt638
@Metahunt638 7 месяцев назад
“But to me you’re lower than dirt” Hurt me 😭
@ajshitshed
@ajshitshed 10 месяцев назад
i wonder what happens if you miss the attack if you choose to kill ceroba at the end?
@cmybilly9237
@cmybilly9237 10 месяцев назад
you can't,it will auto hit
@Saki10001
@Saki10001 22 дня назад
For once Flowey is actually right, the second we act in self defense everyone freaks out as if we were unprovoked, hell even at the start of the game all Martlet does is insult and berate you for no reason, who WOULDN'T want to kill that corrupt cop?
@lunaghost9267
@lunaghost9267 4 месяца назад
I mean, a souless robot who killed a child and tried to kill me is a danger to society that need to be destroyed. And I said destroyed instead of killed on purpose.
@calicobunny
@calicobunny 10 месяцев назад
"I would've been a good freind." oh k me
@MasterIsabelle
@MasterIsabelle 8 месяцев назад
People: ceroba overreacted! She only cares about your soul! Ceroba 5 seconds prior: hey can you not kill my dead husband’s last creation? Thanks!
@lloydfs5114
@lloydfs5114 2 месяца назад
The creation in question: _still trying to kill us_
@MasterIsabelle
@MasterIsabelle 2 месяца назад
@@lloydfs5114 you’ve spared everyone who tried to kill you up until now
@lloydfs5114
@lloydfs5114 2 месяца назад
@MasterIsabelle Not sure what the others have to do with this, as this is specifically referring to Axis. And Pacifist/Neutral Ceroba really does only care about your soul, given that whether or not she follows you depending on the route and how she then tries to kill you after going through the Steamworks to take your soul for Kanako. Honestly, for someone planning to kill us at the end of the route, she really does overreact, blaming us for a mission we never knew about.
@MasterIsabelle
@MasterIsabelle 2 месяца назад
@@lloydfs5114 ceroba cares about the soul AND the creation, she loves her husband, and she’d care about his best creation, she’s mad because of the soul AND the fact you killed him, she watched axis call her dead husband’s name over and over until he shuts down forever The idea that ceroba only cared about the pure soul is weird, since she doesn’t freak out nearly as much if you killed any other robot in SteamWorks, she abandons the mission calmly I brought in the others because you made a point of axis trying to kill us, but it’s not a fair statement because everyone that has tried to kill clover up to this point but has been spared, clover has spared Starlo who wanted to kill clover for his own gain, what makes axis in particular deserving of death?
@lloydfs5114
@lloydfs5114 2 месяца назад
@@MasterIsabelle It's less "deserving" and more "justifiable" in terms of self defense
@lotsaspaghettimamaluigi
@lotsaspaghettimamaluigi 3 месяца назад
"wow you should really feel bad about killing me right now" there saved you 13 minutes
@GodlightTheTranscended7745
@GodlightTheTranscended7745 9 месяцев назад
I believe Axis had XP because he was forced to kill the blue-souled human
@sleeplessarcher
@sleeplessarcher 10 месяцев назад
What happens with Ceroba after you kill Starlo? Just curious
@Ignisium
@Ignisium 10 месяцев назад
She goes into denial about his death, talks to Starlo’s parents, and you never see her again.
@Maannnn...
@Maannnn... 10 месяцев назад
​@@Ignisiumyou don't even travel with her at the stream works?
@kekrom
@kekrom 10 месяцев назад
@@Maannnn...no, flowey helps you instead and you go on a different path
@rihcdar
@rihcdar 10 месяцев назад
@@Maannnn... yeah she'll always just not travel with you during any neutral route because she thinks you're capable enough (can probably sense you aren't exactly pure (as she mentions after you kill axis) even if you never killed anyone outside of the ruins) and lets you leave. in the case you kill starlo she runs off to his parent's farm to ask them if they've seen him anywhere. also a thing i wanted to mention is like. i find it interesting that you get the same two options for responding to starlo and ceroba after they see you alone with the other gone. ellipses/no and "I'm sorry." it's interesting. however no matter what you say ceroba won't understand that you've killed starlo however in the opposite case starlo knows you killed her because of the destroyed mask. just thought it was neat. it's sort of implied that the wind blows starlo's dust away whereas that happening to ceroba is quite literally stated lol
@kekrom
@kekrom 10 месяцев назад
@@PhilAndMind i didnt say it to compare the two, i just said it to explain what happens
@Shadowdestroyer.DoD.
@Shadowdestroyer.DoD. 3 месяца назад
Starlo acting like ceroba didn't attack clover to kill first
@emeraldpichu1
@emeraldpichu1 6 месяцев назад
Ceroba: how dare you justifiably destroy the last invention of my husband that murdered a child? Also Ceroba: die I need some excuse to justify accidentally murdering my child.
@editaxolotls
@editaxolotls 8 месяцев назад
"Why did i hesitate to fire that last bullet?" Holy shit.
@JhojanJhael-qm9hk
@JhojanJhael-qm9hk 10 месяцев назад
For the guy that killed Dalv in the handshake part WHAT IS WRONG WITH U?
@samgeorge1452
@samgeorge1452 7 месяцев назад
The number of comments here saying it's justifiable to kill certain characters...Bro did we play the same game UTY is based off of? How the fuck do you miss the entire core theme of Undertale, which it shoves in your face repeatedly??? Undertale screams at you "Murder is never justified, even if it's the easier or more satisfying decision!!!!" and some of y'all still saying killing Ceroba is right. (especially when Clover can literally be brought back at any time.)
@AlmondMilkLake
@AlmondMilkLake 6 месяцев назад
I don't agree Ceroba deserved to die but i mean, the premise makes no sense to begin with tbh, why should Frisk and Clover deal with all these guys trying to kill them and just take it all with a smile? In what context is that reasonable at all? Just because they should all get their happy ending? The True Pacifist routes are cute and stuff, but they're not realistic at all. Everyone says Ceroba's character is morally gray, and i agree, but Clover killing her is also morally gray, Ceroba had her reasons and so did Clover, end of story, this is not a good or evil deal, it's gray. And thank god for Marlet not being another bot character screaming at you the usual "You monster! How DARE you fight her back? She was just trying to kill you to achieve her own personal goals! 🥺", i actually love her for siding with Clover here, as she said Clover's actions were just, Ceroba's background and goals do NOT invalidate everyone else's no matter how much pain she's been through, if we had that logic irl many serial murders would be free and unpunished nowdays, killing her isn't right as you say, but it's just and fair considering her behaviour and the many chances she had to stop herself.
@samgeorge1452
@samgeorge1452 6 месяцев назад
@@AlmondMilkLake I don't know how else to explain that "Self-defense" doesn't apply if the person isn't actively attacking you, and killing someone for no reason but revenge is rather shitty, actually. Like it's rather shitty to decide that you are some judge who gets to decide to end someone's life because they did something bad.
@AlmondMilkLake
@AlmondMilkLake 6 месяцев назад
@@samgeorge1452 Ceroba was actively attacking him tho? Her being defenseless after the fight isn't a valid reason to stop if that's what you mean, she could try it again later if given the chance like she did already, and no, the option of forgiving her ending up in friendship shouldn't matter, because Clover can't possibly know, it is implied that Clover has no memory of the reseted timelines, only tiny bits if anything. So at that point he can't actually know if Ceroba would accept forgiveness or go for the kill again, in that situation, a reasonable thing to do is kill her, she's accepting death, she's had multiple chances to stop, she was willing to hurt innocents just to get to Clover, she could totally do it again if she wasn't forced to stop and she literally chose that fate by herself, it's not Clover's fault at that point if he feels the need to pull the trigger as much as she felt the need to go on with her husband's plan, if you think Clover wanting to kill her at this point is unreasonable then her entire character should be unreasonable to you too. And revenge is usually shitty yes, but first of all Clover killing Ceroba here wasn't revenge as i explained, and second, i can think of a few instances where revenge is the only logical answer to some situations, which i can't really speak about here on RU-vid because my examples involve very strong subjects.
@samgeorge1452
@samgeorge1452 6 месяцев назад
@@AlmondMilkLake Self defense doesn't apply if the person stops attacking you. It doesn't even make sense for Ceroba to still attack Clover after this point. While Clover may not remember resets, they are aware Flowey can undo any bad things that happen.
@AlmondMilkLake
@AlmondMilkLake 6 месяцев назад
@@samgeorge1452 Self defense is overall a very gray area in the first place, not everyone has the same concept of it, where i live self defense doesn't aply if you had "the upper hand", so basically if someone is trying to kill you by stabbing you with a knife and you shoot them with a gun (either kill or injure, doesn't matter) then you are the one who goes to jail because you had "advantage" over them even if you had no choice, very ridiculous way of thinking when a life is on the line imo. Ceroba was being volatile, nobody could guarantee Clover that she wouldn't ever do it again, as much as it didn't make sense, you could argue some of her behaviours didn't make sense to begin with depending on how you approach the subject, and maybe Clover even considered it an act of mercy in this ending, after all she wanted him to kill her, and again, she had multiple chances to stop and she kept doing worse and worse to the point where she was willing to hurt innocent people like Marlet and Starlo just to achieve her goals. Most real people wouldn't ever think she's redeemable, you keep saying killing her is wrong and revenge, but i think it's justice in a way, i don't think she deserved it or that it was right, but i don't think i can excuse or defend her either, Clover's soul is fueled by Justice after all, and true justice usually doesn't abide by morals or law because even those can be flawed at times (that's a whole other conversation tho), justice is about fairness and Clover was fair with her as Marlet said, she could've stopped, she was being forgiven many times already, but she didn't even budge once. And also, Monsters wanting to go to war with humans is revenge as well by this logic you have, it's not self defense now is it? They're no longer being attacked by any humans, they just live peacefully in the underground, so they technically have no right to be mad if a human comes down and stops them from a doing literal genocide themselves, like in some Neutral routes from Undertale Undyne will have the nerve to throw shit at you for killing Asgore like the player ever had a choice to begin with, why is it only wrong when the player does these things? Becuse if the monsters do it then it's what's right and just in their point of view, yeah, just like Clover here. And Clover does know Flowey can just undo things, but how does he know Flowey isn't just gonna stop doing it eventually? Nobody can guarantee Clover that Flowey is always gonna help, no matter how many resets Clover forgets Flowey always behaves questionably, it would be normal if Clover doubted Flowey at times because even if he's getting help there's no way he could know how long Flowey is gonna do it and what he expects in return. (Which we know is Clover getting him the other souls, and canonically speaking Flowey did get tired of him and let him die, waiting for the next human to actually be useful to his goals)
@DragonMaster1818
@DragonMaster1818 2 месяца назад
Why does this feel sadder than killing them in genocide
@Speak22wastaken
@Speak22wastaken 9 месяцев назад
9:55 starlo describing what she’s doing
@Milanesso777
@Milanesso777 9 месяцев назад
This somehow made me feel sadder than undertale
@noxtinker2936
@noxtinker2936 10 месяцев назад
Omniman - don't platitude me to death 😂
@bellhop_phantom
@bellhop_phantom 9 месяцев назад
Dalv genuinely breaks my heart in every route. I would be his friend...
@Speak22wastaken
@Speak22wastaken 9 месяцев назад
9:22 I think that’s the one swear in the game, at all other times the character catches it cause there’s a child around, also you know what she did, she tried to murder a child, and her own daughter, although it’s funny that clover didn’t kill others who tried to kill them, just Ceroba, also nice that all the endings are very different, undertale had the same pacifist, flawed pacifist, and neutral ending, but in this every ending has its own, unique, final boss
@KiiBon
@KiiBon 9 месяцев назад
Nah, that big cactus girlboss lady blocking the way in the Wild East had a potty mouth too
@Speak22wastaken
@Speak22wastaken 9 месяцев назад
@@KiiBon what about fast travel?
@Zarben-gh8jn
@Zarben-gh8jn 3 месяца назад
i like how if you kill axis, Ceroba will feel upset not just because you corrupted your soul, but you killed a creation that Chujin put his hole heart in.
@eulfrisky
@eulfrisky 8 месяцев назад
i like how ceroba is like "damn bruh fuck u i cant kill you for my dead husband's evil plan now"
@SharkIey
@SharkIey 20 дней назад
1:28 flowey is wrong Somebody out there still searching for this dude
@TheVoiceOfRayday
@TheVoiceOfRayday 9 месяцев назад
I can’t even speak I am about to cry for the first time this year because of how starlo dies
@MasterIsabelle
@MasterIsabelle 10 месяцев назад
Martlet is so powerful she just crashes the game
@MyUsernameIsGoofy
@MyUsernameIsGoofy 10 месяцев назад
Does anyone know if you can fight bosses until they're low on HP so you can spare them?
@co-ramp632
@co-ramp632 10 месяцев назад
I only played the genocide route and haven’t seen the others yet, but I remember at least ceroba’s name being yellow when I had gotten her health low enough. So, it seems that it’s possible
@abigfan3593
@abigfan3593 10 месяцев назад
​@@co-ramp632thwres a dofferemce between The yellow name and The spare being yellow, in the geno a name appears yellow when you can finish an enemy in one blow, I tried sparing ceroba after the starlo on geno but it doesn't work
@co-ramp632
@co-ramp632 10 месяцев назад
@@abigfan3593 Oh ok. Cool, thank you
@pumpkinsoda9017
@pumpkinsoda9017 8 месяцев назад
dalv, geno ceroba, and zenith martlet are the only ones you can't do this with i believe
@s1ko52
@s1ko52 2 месяца назад
Damn, they forgot Guardener...
@julie4life907
@julie4life907 10 месяцев назад
they become professional yappers when they die 😭
@hotrod_hornet
@hotrod_hornet 8 месяцев назад
Ever heard of having Last Words
@julie4life907
@julie4life907 8 месяцев назад
@@hotrod_hornet grandpa says i love you on his death bed, he doesn't tell me the lore reason behind why he hates minorities
@CoolUsername795
@CoolUsername795 Месяц назад
​@@hotrod_hornet LAST WORD???? LOST WORD???? LIKE THE GAME TOUHOU LOST WORD???? UUUOOOHHHHH 😭😭😭😭💢💢💢💢
@segafan1316
@segafan1316 10 месяцев назад
Jesus Starlo's death
@mrlazycrazy
@mrlazycrazy 9 месяцев назад
It’s sad af watching this because each of them trust you only for you to shoot them in the back.
@drrockstar4040
@drrockstar4040 5 месяцев назад
Flowey actually gets more pissed if you go back and spare axis after it was shown that Ceroba was using you
@laterforwork
@laterforwork 8 месяцев назад
What happens in the flawed pacifist ending after you go to the castle?
@pumpkinsoda9017
@pumpkinsoda9017 8 месяцев назад
asgore whoops your ass
@verymess
@verymess 7 месяцев назад
Asgore will fight you but you will be unable to do anything. He will be attacking you until you die.
@everythingtube172
@everythingtube172 2 месяца назад
asgore folds you like a lawn chair
@laterforwork
@laterforwork 2 месяца назад
@@everythingtube172 I wish
@coal.ink_3499
@coal.ink_3499 10 месяцев назад
I DIDNT MEAN TO KILL STARLO HELP
@Morbidly_obese_crocodile
@Morbidly_obese_crocodile 10 месяцев назад
Did you hear about this thing about not saving after making a mistake?
@coal.ink_3499
@coal.ink_3499 10 месяцев назад
@@Morbidly_obese_crocodile fuck it we ball
@Morbidly_obese_crocodile
@Morbidly_obese_crocodile 10 месяцев назад
@@coal.ink_3499 baller💣
@zix2421
@zix2421 3 месяца назад
Poor Axis((
@FluffyEnbyneering
@FluffyEnbyneering 9 месяцев назад
9:52 Starlo was so real for this
@MomazosDoritos
@MomazosDoritos 9 месяцев назад
This video made me realize you could spare Dalv
@bionicleapple1254
@bionicleapple1254 2 месяца назад
First playthrough I was going full pacifist. I got to Starlo and struggled quite a lot with the battle. I had the glass ammo (which heals you when FIGHTing) at that point so I eventually settled on healing by hitting him to not waste my items. I didn't think much of it because I was dealing so little damage, but at around %30 HP I hit him and he instantly went down. I genuinely sat there in disbelief for like 5 minutes after Ceroba told me it wasn't my fault lol
@elmapepaj2959
@elmapepaj2959 9 месяцев назад
Well Flowey was telling the truth when he said Ceroba was using us and at our self defence she freaked out😅
@SahilHossain-ff4if
@SahilHossain-ff4if 4 месяца назад
Lore of Undertale Yellow killing bosses in the Pacifist route momentum 100
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