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Union: The Forgotten Mötley Crüe/Kiss Supergroup Feat. John Corabi & Bruce Kulick 

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Union: The Forgotten history of the 90's/2000's supergroup featuring ex-Kiss and Mötley Crüe members
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I’ve covered a number of supergroups on my channel, but today I want to talk about one of the lesser knowns or forgotten about supergroups from the late 90’s. Featuring ex- members of Motley Crue, Kiss, David Lee Roth’s solo band and Slash’s future band with Myles kennedy the supergroup Union would be pretty short lived only putting out two studio albums. This was due in large part to just bad luck and timing. Today let’s take a look at the history of Union.
Union members Bruce Kullick and John Corabi were both going through some pretty similar things in their personal and professional lives by the time they met in the mid to late 90’s.. Kullick left Kiss after 12 years after they reunited with their original lineup in 1996 and something similar happened to Corabi after Motley Crue reunited with Vince Neil. On top of that Kullick would get divorced from his wife in 1996 and Corabi would end up splitting from his longtime girlfriend around the same time. Given their similar set of circumstances both musicians bonded pretty quickly with Corabi telling ultimate guitar how the pair met “The way I recall it is that I had just been given my walking papers from Mötley, and Nikki had a barbecue at his house. And supposedly Bruce was there, and he and Nikki got to talking about this and that, and at some point, I came up. So, Nikki knew Bruce was just out of KISS, and I think he was like, 'You should call Corabi and do something. You guys have a lot of the same influences.' Bruce must have agreed because he reached out, we talked, and I decided to go down to his house to hang out and see if there was anything there. I want to also point out that former kiss manager larry mazer was also said to be instrumental in suggesting kullick and corabi work together and mazer would go on to manage Union.
Kulick would tell UCR. "We both feel like we got left behind by our personal lives and our professional careers. So let's make some music." Their first time writing together they would come up with the song Around Again.
Calling themselves Union they would round out their lineup with future Slash drummer Brent Fitz,Eddie money and david lee r bassist Jamie Hunting
The supergroup would sign a deal with indie label Mayhem Records who flubbed the pressing and promotion of the group’s self titled first album, which came out in early 1998. It was probably a lack of experience, staff and money that resulted in some pretty big mistakes. Kulick would tell UCR
. "The first CDs pressed, our first song from the record is 'Old Man Wise.' The first batch they printed, it doesn't even list the song. So whoever approved the artwork was way too high on something. Then, there's a poster that went along with it, and John was also in this very good band on Hollywood Records called the Scream. They spelled it 'Sceam' and left the 'r' out on the poster - and then they spelled Motley Crue completely wrong."
When it came time to promote the album the band struggled to get any attention from radio and couldn’t get prime touring spots. The music on their first album was what the members referred to as straight forward rock , which was at odds with what radio and MTV was playing. While they attracted some good size crowds in south america and europe, in America it was a different story. Corabi would tell Ultimate Classic Rock in America, we couldn't get arrested." The band seemed to be stuck in two different worlds. On one hand they were a new band, but their music was deemed too retro
The band was in negotiations to open for Poison during the summer of 1998 but the promoters didn’t want a newer band on the bill and instead were looking for group’s with recognition like Cinderella and RATT to open instead. the same thing happened when a tour with Sevendust was also discussed. While Sevendust wanted Union to open for them, promoters didn’t like the billing and thought the band’s sound was current enough.
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@DarkSkies72
@DarkSkies72 Год назад
I loved the Crüe album with John Corabi, it actually got stolen from me twice at house parties.
@Themightywoodrow
@Themightywoodrow Год назад
I was absolutely floored by the first record when it was released. I was 15 at the time and it was everything I wanted in a band.
@Nut-ml5wc
@Nut-ml5wc Год назад
Never heard of this band. Just bought the CD. Thanks!
@coastalpaladin5024
@coastalpaladin5024 Год назад
Union was an amazing band. If you have not heard it you should. Thanks for another amazing video!!!
@cheapentertainmentvideo7308
My Dad's band opened for these guys back in the day. Said they were extremely nice dudes. That first album is amazing !
@wokedragon3211
@wokedragon3211 Год назад
I got the Union CD from Bruce Kulick the night before a kiss show in Omaha Ne. still have it. signed with a Kiss revenge CD. Bruce was one of the nicest people I have ever met.
@dankfingers
@dankfingers Год назад
I was at one of the shows that they opened for Cinderella. My buddy and I had been listening to that first album non-stop since it had been released so finding out they were opening up for Cinderella, it was just icing on the cake for that show. They were awesome live, glad I got to see them least once. Both those albums still hold up today.
@Herodotusjones
@Herodotusjones Год назад
Those records were solid! Very much the classic "wrong place wrong time" for that music. Good on ya!
@MichaelCharles2011
@MichaelCharles2011 Год назад
Both Union albums are on Spotify. And as with anything Corabi was involved in, it’s really good. It’s not the scream or Crue, but those two union albums are definitely worth your time
@craigmapel1415
@craigmapel1415 Год назад
I was lucky enough to see them. They were at a bar in lincoln ne. The night of the show aerosmith was playing in omaha & 311 were playing down town. There were only 10 people at that show. They played like they we're playing to a sold out arena. Aftet the show they hung out with everybody. John & Bruce were walking around handing out guitar picks & made sure everybody got one. All 4 of them were very nice guys.
@shaneculkin7124
@shaneculkin7124 Год назад
That's a very nice story. I would TOTALLY have been there!!!! I was old enough too. I'm going to see Anvil next month at a bar in brooklyn.
@robswystun2766
@robswystun2766 Год назад
At one point in the 2000s or the 2010s, Ozzy's band consisted of Zakk Wylde, Robert Trujillo and Mike Borden and, if I remember correctly, when Robert left to join Metallica, they drafted in Jason Newstead to take his place for a bit. I know they were "just" a backing band to a solo artist, but both of those lineups are killer. They're 1.5 supergroups I never see talked about.
@warrenwebb8172
@warrenwebb8172 Год назад
Trujillo and Borden also played on one of Jerry Cantrell’s solo albums (his second I believe) around this time
@thrashinwebster
@thrashinwebster Год назад
Glad u mentioned this’ it’s really important that things like this get talked about to give people a more in depth perspective about the history of certain bands ✌️
@chrisitalia8868
@chrisitalia8868 Год назад
It was the 90s and a little bit of early 2000 jason left metallica in 2001 Robert would replace him in 2003. I vaguely remember Jason being ozzys bass player, it didn't last that long and was probably for publicity
@trendmassacre8423
@trendmassacre8423 Год назад
John is a hard rocker, harder than what Motley Crue wanted to play after Corabi left. Motley's self titled album is f*cking awesome, and years later people are now realizing that! Bruce and Corabi together made some good music.
@ultimatesin3544
@ultimatesin3544 Год назад
What's crazy is just how much rock music changed from 1990 - 98. It had gone through several major iterations. Then compare that to the last 20 years where music basically hasn't changed at all. It's kinda crazy I don't understand what happened. These guys sound like they would have done better a few years earlier.
@scottm.peters1473
@scottm.peters1473 Год назад
I was in a band once.
@henrikharbin5521
@henrikharbin5521 Год назад
I lay part of the blame on Paul and Gene. Instead of being loyal to Bruce and giving him the opening gig, they went with smaller local bands. The guy busted his back bumper playing with them for 12 YEARS and they didn't throw him even one bone to help him out.
@omeyehead7436
@omeyehead7436 Год назад
Not surprising from gene
@NeedleDropRules
@NeedleDropRules Год назад
The band almost always neve gets to choose the opening act. It's usually the record company. Which is exactly what happened to Union as described in the video. Years later, Bruce has been a staple, repeat act on the KISS Cruise shows.
@trendmassacre8423
@trendmassacre8423 Год назад
​@@NeedleDropRules Kiss has had the opening band option since the 80's, but Paul and Gene's heads are so full of hot air....which explains a lot.
@downboys
@downboys Год назад
“Smaller local bands” like Alice In Chains, The a Melvin’s, Stabbing Westward, The Nixons, The Verve Pipe, Powerman 5000, and Pantera? 😂
@capt.jackoffgrid
@capt.jackoffgrid Год назад
Paul and Gene are the biggest assholes in rock
@Gunnar.J
@Gunnar.J 10 месяцев назад
Great Band! Corabi is amazing as a vocalist and great on guitar and Bruck is amazing on guitar!
@IMAMONGUS
@IMAMONGUS Год назад
I enjoy seeing you in your videos!
@ChorusArtists
@ChorusArtists Год назад
Wow, ya got me. I wasn't even aware of this band, and I was still working in the record business at that time. I think Corabi was the best singer Crue ever had, and Kulick wrote a lot of great stuff with KISS. I'm gonna go check out Union right now - thanks R&RTS!
@ChorusArtists
@ChorusArtists Год назад
@Superduper Starwars Stopmotion Channel!(and more!) Well I do recall there being a 3rd guy who got booted right before they signed with Q Prime and made Too Fast. And technically, there was Vince and the later Vegas Vince edition, which were a little different. Both sucked compared to Corabi.
@DarkSkies72
@DarkSkies72 Год назад
Vince was good in the early days, he should have retired for good in 2000, now I’m embarrassed for him and the band. Corabi is a great singer and I loved his album with Crüe.
@lanceprzybyla7662
@lanceprzybyla7662 Год назад
I never heard of them....glad you did this!!!
@warmonger8799
@warmonger8799 Год назад
Awesome 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
@ericdunbar6230
@ericdunbar6230 Год назад
I'm surprised people didn't like the sound to me It sounds like Monster Magnet and lots of stoner bands that were getting big at the time. It's a shame no one would sign them.
@timroelofsen1563
@timroelofsen1563 Год назад
I bought the first Union CD 💿
@mdwayne741
@mdwayne741 2 месяца назад
Both albums are really good....I especially like the 2nd album, The Blue Room.
@DukesMusic84
@DukesMusic84 Год назад
2:25 What he said about someone at the label being on drugs, that's something very important. People be popping pills at their desks at a lot of these places and no one checks or cares and it sometimes goes on for years. Seen this with my own eyes, it's not good.
@chrismason4224
@chrismason4224 Год назад
Supergroup with the biggest air quotes possible.
@omeyehead7436
@omeyehead7436 Год назад
😅🤣 right
@ryanday633
@ryanday633 Год назад
I love the two Union records. It's a shame that success didn't bring them to stardom because that band was full of talent.
@shaneweldon
@shaneweldon Год назад
It's cool to see you talking to the camera!
@bok3rnes425
@bok3rnes425 Год назад
They should name themselves"Kiss Crues" 👍👍👍
@michaelr.5676
@michaelr.5676 Год назад
Clever! 😊
@shaunduffy8019
@shaunduffy8019 Год назад
Gene and Paul aren't even loyal to each other...their only loyalty is to the dollar!
@paintediva
@paintediva Год назад
I didn't forget.
@nolongerblocked6210
@nolongerblocked6210 Год назад
I never heard of Union
@selfdiscardedkingofruin7291
Got to see and meet Union back in the day. Still have the autographed cds somewhere...and a picture of my ex kissing John Corabi lol.
@shaneculkin7124
@shaneculkin7124 Год назад
I don't know if I'd go THAT far, since their first album was dope! But I totally hear ya! That '94 album was completely overlooked.
@Robizoid
@Robizoid Год назад
At the time, MTV was playing commercial fluff!!
@Fasnic
@Fasnic Год назад
Just sold their first cd last year
@ivi13
@ivi13 Год назад
Got a live album Also , great songs by a great band.
@jonfogarty2075
@jonfogarty2075 4 месяца назад
You should do a video on brides of destruction
@TriglycerideBeware
@TriglycerideBeware Год назад
Do Blind Faith next!
@omeyehead7436
@omeyehead7436 Год назад
Definite supergroup
@tleeg74
@tleeg74 Год назад
Totally remember Union. The debut album was a decent album, never heard the 2nd one. The Motley Crue album with Corabi was far superior then ANY Vince Neil album. It was amazing.
@deevee666
@deevee666 Год назад
Not that you don’t look great but I have a hard time associating your voice with your face still 😅
@rnrtruestories
@rnrtruestories Год назад
@@michaelwilson2340 no it’s called dealing with copyright bs syndrome
@ladyhonor822
@ladyhonor822 Год назад
Oh the cattiness... Philadelphia USA 🇺🇲❤️ AMEN
@maxmetalknight
@maxmetalknight Год назад
Oh... for a moment I thought this was gonna be about Eric Singer Project, with Corabi and Kulick
@MKYeahBuddy
@MKYeahBuddy Год назад
Just a tough time to come out with new music in that genre. Things had changed. Good stuff though
@ronwilliams1094
@ronwilliams1094 Год назад
A few other supergroups would be Damn Yankees (Jack Blades from Night Ranger, Tommy Shaw from STYX and Ted Nugent) & Arcade (Stephen Pearcy from RATT & Fred Coury from Cinderella).
@rnrtruestories
@rnrtruestories Год назад
Damn Yankees is done on my channel
@badbirdkc
@badbirdkc Год назад
Union actually got some radio play on our rock station in Kansas City, and that's how I heard of them. I was a fan of Corabi era Motley Crue and Kulic era Kiss. I will say that I liked Union, I didn't love Union. Outside of the radio singles, they were just okay. Nothing special in my mind, which was disappointing, as I loved their previous work.
@onionheadguy7094
@onionheadguy7094 Год назад
Who's the best supergroup ever?
@markcheetah4960
@markcheetah4960 Год назад
Asia
@EKING47D
@EKING47D Год назад
Damn Yankees
@jerrythomas4457
@jerrythomas4457 9 месяцев назад
Riverdogs
@dwade6322
@dwade6322 Год назад
As a huge KISS an MOTLEY fan let me be the first to say,these guys were hardly a 'Super group' 🙄
@danielleal1037
@danielleal1037 Год назад
Hearing that people just weren’t interested in retro rock when Union put out its first album reminded me of something Zakk Wylde once said: “f*** Limp Bizkit.” It’s sad that such crap became an obstacle in the way of way more talented musicians.
@cezarmaatubang8236
@cezarmaatubang8236 Год назад
I still have that one. Let's be honest. It's not that good.
@tyson86overspinks
@tyson86overspinks Год назад
disagree.
@LivinRob
@LivinRob Год назад
This was not a supergroup.
@SexyUndisputed2All
@SexyUndisputed2All Год назад
Oh talking About real rock huh. The crue skid row gnr Def and even poison last torchbearers of real pure rock
@xp8969
@xp8969 Год назад
Congrats on coming out of the closet
@SexyUndisputed2All
@SexyUndisputed2All Год назад
yeah dude im insecure enough to bescared by 4 guys who are in a multi platinum wotld famous band. yeah dude, bet you got laid lot huh, my ass. jealousy is s little girl trait, no offense to little girls
@ramseybarnes145
@ramseybarnes145 Год назад
Strait forward rock? I’m already yawning..
@garylang3379
@garylang3379 Год назад
Corabi could not cut it w crue , too many big personalities , he was a guitarist more than a singer in my opinion , and no doubt good at both , but crue has that formula that needs the originals , you will see what happens w john 5 , now that mick is out , its going to implode
@tleeg74
@tleeg74 Год назад
The Motley album with Corabi was amazing. Way better then ANYTHING with Vince.
@birchsongsltd.6831
@birchsongsltd.6831 Год назад
Forgtton for damn good reason.
@cantkillcliffrose
@cantkillcliffrose Год назад
This band was really bad. Most of this shit is. They like to blame Napster, and stuff... it's because this style of rock was always bad and will always be bad.
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