Are people not allowed to change and evolve? Up until, idk, 2017 growth and learning from past mistakes was considered mature and commendable. Nowadays if you try to become a better person you're implied of being phony and hypocritical.
Sunny’s legal acumen was top notch. She handed Alyssa firmly and politely. Freedom of Speech covers hate speech. Sunny’s is correct- the Law is the Law.
Yes but Harvard is a private institution and therefore can impose stricter limitations on speech than a state institution would be allowed to under the First Amendment.
It was said repeatedly; I don’t know what’s so hard to understand…college campuses have “codes of conduct” that are often much more strict than constitutional law. There are PLENTY of behaviors that are perfectly legal but not permitted on a college campus. If schools only enforced policies according to the law; every time a student got expelled, they would get arrested. This is not a confusing concept. Sunny knows this.
So Sunny deserves her own show if she desires. Cause when I say she is better than the view. She is the only one making sense and actually giving facts to the audience. Shame on abc and the rest of the panel everyday for this nonsense. I wish y’all stop talking about Gaza… oh wait you never do.
She truly does. And I am glad people are seeing it now. Since last year people were on the hate Sunny train coz she was always discussing the inequality that black people go through, so it’s good to see people recognizing that she’s always standing up for the minorities.
They could careless about protected speech, all they want is to shove their views on us, one day they're for free speech but on another day they are for their version of free speech. It's either free or not take it or leave it.
They are, but they aren't racist antisemite black supremacist like her. For someone who whine about "racism" all the time, Sunny seems completely clueless about what real racism looks like. Absolutely trashy and disgusting.
Alyssa is on point here. The hate spewed against Jewish people in this country is despicable, and Sunny as a minority should be ashamed of her position
So, apparently, at these schools it’s OK to cheer for mass murder, but it’s not actionable until they commit mass murder… Ummm… sure… That makes perfect sense. 🥴 🙄🙄🙄 Probably the most pathetic yet absurd thing I’ve ever heard. Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others. 🤦♂️
For Alyssa to say NO other groups are threatened or harassed on campus is absurd..as a black student I can tell you there are confederate flags all over campuses in the south, on students cars, in their dorms, there are statues of confederate soldiers literally everywhere in honor of them.. these people they are praising kept my ppl hostage and in torment and I don’t see Alyssa up in arms about it. Also the way Sarah lead with if this was happening to BLACKKK people with such distain is very telling
This is what I’m so confused about. So Republicans marched around saying Jews can’t replace us and it’s fine. Black ppl called all type of names and nothing. This needs to be across the board. And all we heard was freedom of speech. So what is the law for this? It shouldn’t be ok against Jews, Palestinians, black & gay ppl etc
Because the law is subject to interpretation and Sunny’s interpretation is wrong here. By that logic anyone without a law degree doesn’t have the right to challenge someone like Bill Barr even though his interpretations were in fact challenged by the legal establishment in this country.
Because Sunny is not always right and this is an opinion show. Her interpretation of the law is impartial as many lawyers do. And the context is Harvard’s code of conduct, not the constitution.
@@scottjohnson8687 It should also be mentioned that Harvard receives federal funding, and any school that receives federal funding cannot condone targeted harassment against protected classes on campus. That is why universities in the South don’t have university sanctioned white supremacist groups despite their being many who wouldn’t hesitate to join among their student populations. So even if Sunny wanted to make this about the constitution, she would hit a brick wall when reminded of the fact the Supreme Court allows the government to impose guidelines and restrictions to universities who accept federal funds. She needs to read Title VI which says “No person in the United States shall, on the ground of race, color, or national origin, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance.”
This conversation was about code of conduct, not law. Sunny brought up law to excuse their behavior. Universities have a code of conduct and have used them to take action when students say racist remarks. If a group of students marched and called for the genocide of black people, the university would take action. They would not sit there and do nothing
Really Joy? So let’s give Alyssa the floor? Meanwhile she trampled over Sunny’s entire argument. Joy, Alyssa, and Sara couldn’t be more out of touch on this topic and I wonder why…
You are an example why this show is losing viewers. Radical left voices only allowed. This nutty radicalism is why someone as dangerous as trump will probably win another term. People in the middle are tired of your radicalism.
Oh shut up. The absolute outrage if those professors would of responded like that if the question was asked about the genocide of every transgender man woman and child. You people are the biggest hypocrites. The swastika on your face is showing!!
Hamas is a terrorist group, but all Palestinians are not. Nazis, white supremacists, terrorists use harassment as an instigation or to stir up hate. If it leads to violence, it needs to be dealt with at this level before it gets to that point. Only a fool would think otherwise. 😊
Exactly, and they are so upset about the rape of Israeli women, but the Death of Palestinian women and children are just unfortunate collateral damage... it's like the twilight zone
Antisemitism is bad. However, we should also call out people that call basically anything antisemitism. For example, there were Jewish students that made a documentary criticizing Israel, and it was called antisemitic. For more information, there is a video on RU-vid called "College Jewish Group THREATENED For Screening Film Critical Of Israel."
People should also know that Palestinan Arabs are by definition Semitic also. Therefore, the "anti-semitic" label could be applied to critics of Palestinians, among others.
I agree, but the moral fallacy is that not everyone sees hate the same way. For example, people who are against gay marriages don't see it as hate or discrimination but against their religious values.
Se·mit·ic /səˈmidik/ Learn to pronounce adjective 1. 1. relating to or denoting a family of languages that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician and Akkadian, constituting the main subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic family. 2. relating to the peoples who speak Semitic languages, especially Hebrew and Arabic.
Joy always gives this energy when it comes to black people.. Ironically, this isn’t the same energy for Jewish people that you see from Whoopi and Sunny when it comes to black people though.
@@rainbeauxunicorn5237 AND?? I said it because it wasn’t acknowledged and pointed out the lack of support from her coworkers who she is constantly supportive of.
Joy at 8:17 "let her finish Sunny let her talk" I don't usually hear Joy telling Sunny that and Sara and Alyssa were also interrupting Sunny when she was talking.
Thank you, Sunny. In Charlottesville, there were despicable chants against Jews and the president of the U.S. seemed to not have an issue and Alyssa wasn't so offended that she could no longer work in the administration. Oh the hypocrisy.
Im tired of Alyssa, Sara and Joy speaking on the issue because everything they offer is from an uneducated place. Sunny is literally thee only one on the panel that stays up to date with whats going on and isnt actively spreading misinformation.
What? Lmao. Sunny is always the one to cry about so-called "racism" against black people, but when racism it's against Jewish or White people, it's suddently ok? Lmao, take a seat.
The “let her finish sunny” pissed me off. When Sunny was explaining the LAW that Americans uphold when it comes to black peoples, Alyssa didn’t let her finish her statement (she actually never lets anyone finish a statement) Sunny studied the LAW, does not mean she agrees with it. When it hits home for certain people that’s when you want Sunny to let her finish. When Sunny is speaking about black or Latinos, that’s when you jump at her throat and really don’t let her speak. Hate is Hate is Hate. But it’s telling when you’re only this fired up when it comes to your own community
Oh please Sunny cuts off so many people and hoarded this conversation. Alyssa barely got a time to share her thoughts until they extended the segment for her and even then Sunny cut her off.
Sunny better speak!!! 👏🏾👏🏾The rest of the cohost lack the educational background and moral clarity to even speak on this. I can tell whoopi agreed with Sunny but after her getting in trouble i think shes scared to say certain things on this subject.
Alyssa and Sarah pretend that all minorities are protected from discrimination as of now…that’s laughable. I also noticed how no one stopped Alyssa from commenting over Sunny but stopped Sunny from commenting over Alyssa. It really is that subtle.
Remember when Alyssa and Sunny got into it slightly over the interruption thing. My feeling is after that incident the producers told Alyssa to be more aggressive, kinda like Meghan Mcain was. Ever since then I've noticed they tend to go to her first so she can get everything in and she still interrupts people.
The same fervor that they are giving to protecting the Jewish community needs to be consistently given to the Palestinians who are facing genocide at this very moment. Consistency is everything. We can be mad at both issues. Also, why aren't the ladies discussing the NY Times article that came out last week stating that the Israeli government knew that the attack was imminent? They were warned by Egypt and Israeli women soldiers.
Because blacks cry "racism" all the time for no good reason. This antisemite rethoric is however REAL racism. Sunny needs to leave her racism at the door.
Amen to that and Jews too. Millions of Blacks died during Slavery and the Transatlantic Slave Trade. Jews are not the only group that went through suffering.
@@desmondherron552 But in 2023, blacks are one of the most (if not the most) privileged group there is, thanks to policies such as affirmative action. Yet they still manage to whine and cry and play the victims like spoiled children.
More like the left is now defending free speech. Plenty of white students have been expelled from colleges for only saying a particular word. Sometimes years before even attending the school. These thugs today are not just speaking for terrorist organizations. They are harassing students for just being who they are.
Sunny is demonstrating why education and understanding the law and communicating that effectively is important. This is advanced intelligence and critical thinking that if more people practiced would lead to greater understanding.
Nope she just stated code of conduct and the law are the same. I can't call someone a racial slur at Harvard and not have disciplined. But I can do so in every day life and not be arrested. Just a fact. Not complicated. Sunny is an idiot.
Gosh I wish Alyssa would shut up!😤 Sunny is a saint! And the nerve of Joy allowing Alyssa to speak after she kept interrupting Sunny. Sunny is the only lawyer on set, so Alyssa needed to listen and learn rather than whine like she always does whenever she hears something she doesn't agree with.
While I wouldn't go so far as to say Sunny is a saint, she *does* know the law, and this segment annoyed me too. Alyssa kept interrupting Sunny, and Joy said nothing. But when Alyssa was speaking and Sunny tried to pull her up on inaccuracies, Joy scolded Sunny for it. What the???
The hosts are talking about a lot of things here and sloppily conflating them as the same; the Black experience in America, the "Me Too" movement, the war in Ukraine, antisentitism... It is mudding the case at hand. Sunny is spot on that free speech is protected de facto. The same handwringing is rarely done when the Ku Klux Klan talks about whites being a superior race. We also have to reckon with the fact hat many of these protests are expressly regarding a geopolitical issue, and the cruel actions of a internationally supported government, and not a race.
lol... so they are just protesting a geopolitical issue....ok then. go actually talk to them, and you will hear that they want Israel wiped off the map, and many of them want to see every Jew wiped off the earth with it. they are the same clowns that celebrated the Oct 7 attacks with their cries of "allahu akbar"
The first amendment doesn’t apply to private institutions. And secondly, people are mad that these rules aren’t being applied equally. If you’re going to expel students and professors for their speech, you have to do the same when the next group does it.
It's Interesting what Joy said at the end about the new rules in Germany. Apparently, demonstrations against the war in Gaza has been forbidden there. Seems that Joy is in favor of that🤔. So, democracy and free speach is fine as long as it's not for the Palestinians. I used to like these ladies, but lately everyone except Sunny and Whoopi are showing their true color. What about the cancelation of all the celebrities that have supported the Palestinians? Now Alyssa wants these people to resign just because they followed the law and did not privilege certain people because of the religion.
As a German, I need to explain a few things: first of all, there are daily protests against the actions of the Israely government in Gaza in many German cities, protected by german police, they are not forbidden. That's a myth, please inform yourself better. Videos of these protest can be found easily on RU-vid or Instagram, for example. What is outlawed in Germany, everywhere and at these protests, is hatespeech. Against jews, against muslims, against people pf color, against LGBTQ, against minorities in general. People who would say in Germany what Harvard students have publicly said would be arrested and would find themselves swiftly in front of a judge. And rightfully so. Germany has learned, from its history, that voilence starts with language, and that threats, hate and hateful speech, lead to worse things. Which is why that language, verbalized or in symbolic form like swastikas, is a crime in Germany. That might not be the American way, but it is one of the reasons, that many young Israelis, who don't like their Trumpian government, move to Berlin, not Washington.
to be fair, Sunny and Whoopie have show their true colors. It is common knowledge that Sunny celebrated the attacks on Oct 7th. she hates white people and in particular Jews. As for Whoopie, she does not even believe that the Holocaust was racially motivated. This is coming from someone that culturally appropriated a Jewish name as a joke.
"demonstrating" no actually what was forbidden was the OPEN SUPPORT of Hamas a terrorist organization which has proven to be quite frequent among the so called "Pro-Palestinian protestors".
German here. There are tons of pro palestine demonstrations in germany, thogh it is forbidden to call for death of jews or the end of israel in speech or signs. But we allow demonstrations.
She said nothing about people getting fired for misgendering people or saying the same things about black people or Muslims on campus. She only defends antisemitism. That's it.
It opens my eyes when started justifying collective punishment on entire civilian for 200 hostages. Yes the hostages should be free but to be okay punishing and cutting of water and electricity etc for 2 million people for 200 ? Show me up how white lives matter to her more than other races.
Sunny is absolutely correct, this is the law, not a personal belief. The ladies on the panel want the law applied with preference to certain speech and that is just not how the 1st Amendment works. I am an attorney and studied History in College I guess my assumption is most Americans are knowledgeable about the US Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and The Amendments. I am clearly incorrect on that view. This was tough to watch.
As a former attorney, I absolutely concur. This was incredibly hard to watch. It seemed as if no one had any desire or interest in understanding the general law. In my personal experience, I've come to firmly believe that the average U.S. citizen knows very little foundational law re: basic daily dealings. Law gets confused with personal beliefs and opinions
@@Joyjoyjoy4 yes and they should fire Sonny. The ABC executive Sonny got fired with the race card bc she called Sonny low rent apparently didn’t have the right to free speech.
Alyssa was out of control woman you obviously do NOT know what you are talking about!As a German lawyer it made perfect sense what Sunny said!That is exactly what it’s about! Alyssa simply doesn’t seem to understand which is ok she doesn’t know everything but her stubbornness and yelling out „code of conduct“ like it makes it more relevant! These women simply cannot keep up with Sunny‘s education and proper research they just go off emotions and no facts!
Yes, so, technically, private universities can restrict free speech in ways that a public university may not, doing so would eliminate federal funds which are the lifeblood of universities, so practically speaking, they are sufficiently coerced to not abridge the first amendment rights.
Everyone at the table completely misconstrued Sunny’s thoughts. The law protects everyone, private institutions, employers have conditions that if unmet can warrant cancellations. It’s not that hard.
The First Amendment protects you from the government. Private universities like Harvard, MIT, and Penn are not bound by the First Amendment. Sunny was not misunderstood, she was just wrong.
Are you dense? The segment was specifically around the Presidents of these universities saying they were "unsure if calling for the genocide of jews breaks the code of conduct". You're right, you can protest in the USA, but if a student was calling for the genocide of Black people or Muslims there would be consequences whether that be suspension or expulsion, and for some reason that protection is not extended to Jews. Also, this is a private university speaking about its code of conduct, it literally has nothing to do with the US constitution or law.
I completely disagree. They are both lacking in education and understanding of the situation and the fact Israel has the same right the USA has to ensure the safety of its citizens. Hamas is responsible for their people and have put their lives at risk, not Israel, not anyone else. So if you disagree with Israel’s actions, you better hope for your own safety and that a country like China doesn’t attack the USA and the rest of the world doesn’t stand by and claim you have no right to defend yourself because Chinese citizens might be killed in the crossfire.
@@jameswood88 I don't even know where to begin with this comment. While acknowledging Israel's right to defend its citizens, both sides have legitimate concerns and grievances. Can you please point to your sources on where the USA has restricted resources to China in what's called an "open air prison" for this hypothetical war. If you feel that strongly about defending Israel please go there but know that its Americas right to not support you.
@@jameswood88 Oh please. This has been going on for 70+ years and they have openly admitted they want to colonize every single piece of Palestinian land and even more of the surrounding countries. There's literal footage of officials and citizens saying it. That is the goal all along and you know it.
Republicans always say they care about “facts not feelings” but Alyssa here does not want to hear any facts. As Sunny clearly said, the law is the law. Keep speaking up Sunny 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 as you can tell by most of the comments. Most of us agree with you!
Except this isn't the law. Colleges can expel students who spew racist hate but Sunny thinks they shouldn't if the victims of the hate happen to be Jewish 🤷🏻♂️ If the roles were reversed and somebody was calling on the genocide of Arab-Americans or Black-Americans, Sunny would have had a totally different interpretation of the law!
a college’s code of conduct was what was being discussed. not the first amendment. this is about people supporting hamas’ goal of wiping jews from the face of the earth. apparently, sunny HATES whataboutism except for when it comes to jewish people. she doesn’t like it when the GOP uses that talk about black folks, but if you point out that israeli women were raped by hamas on october 7 she responds by saying the IDF rapes too. so what then? it’s okay for hamas to kill and rape because israel is supposedly responding in kind?????? sunny does not understand politics. she’s ignorant and she doesn’t even practice anymore.
A university campus is not a court of law. Colleges have code of conduct. Antisemitism is a core tenet of the progressive woke left, which run universities and which Sonny hostin is the spokesman for
Sunny's limited experience as lawyer has no relevance to the arguments being made here. First amendment is not upheld at campuses in practice. This has been well documented and is expressed explicitly in the policies of many campuses. We all know that the rules have been enforced differentially and none of this handwringing has occurs when someone from the wrong group says something (people canceled over saying merit in scientific work matters).
@@davidfletcher4449 what are you talking about? It’s basic knowledge that many “freedoms” don’t extend to private businesses. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, searches and seizures, gun rights, hiring practices, conduct codes, uniforms. This is why Sunny is dead wrong, none of what she said applies to either of the three universities.
What’s crazy is that the Black woman who is actually a lawyer and understands how the law will intersect with the college if the college is sued for a free speech violation is crazy. Why on Earth would Alyssa thinks she knows more than Sunny about this…as much as I hate how the law is designed for allowing this type of speech on college campuses, the fact is that it does. Don’t blame the college for following the laws to avoid getting sued. Your issue is with the courts for allowing hate speech as free speech.
what's crazy is that you said "that the Black woman who is actually a lawyer and understands how the law will intersect with the college if the college is sued for a free speech violation is crazy" without actually fact checking and realizing you were wrong and that you blindly believed sunny. Fyi, sunny is wrong. IVY are private institutions and are not bound to the first admendment. Harvard has a history of disciplinary action without consideration of "free speech".
Incredible how Alyssa could say there's no justification to use genocidal language against a group of people and yet she is silent when the Israeli government time and time again has used genocidal language against Palestinians. The Israeli forces have literally described Palestinians as Human Animals. I feel like im going crazy listening to this show.
Joy told Sunny to let Alyssa speak but said nothing to Alyssa or Sara when they tried to interrupt Sunny. Because she disagreed with Sunny and sided with Alyssa.
The "lawyer" is completely - and I mean COMPLETELY - wrong here. This isn't about law - they are private institutions who set speech codes and cam and do routinely punish speech they don't like Bit they do so only those which run afoul of their progressive, intersectional worldview.
"Moral Clarity" not legal clarity or legal ethics. There are many things that CAN be done within the confines of the law that are morally wrong 😄😄 lawyers and judges do it to us all the time within the law and it is deeply immoral.
Sarah and Alyssa are refusing to listen to core of Sunny’s argument and continues to parrot conservative arguments that are conflating the statements made by the Harvard presidents. Their inability to look at this topic objectively is disappointing as a fan of both of them.
I know they are not trying to challenge Sunny on the LAW. Lol, she knows this stuff. Facts are important. Bravo to these Presidents for doing their job. College campuses are where so many of our future leaders are made; expecting them all to be coddled or shutting down any level of discourse is not realistic.
If Sunny was well versed in the law she’d know what a protected class is and Jewish people have fallen under that category ever since the end of WWII. Jewish students must be protected against Muslim extremists in the same way black students must be protected against white supremacists. The extremist elements are the ones going after regular students for not taking a position they like, hence the targeted harassment which is why Biden’s DOJ is opening inquires into these universities.
Supporting Palestinian people and protesting against their suffering at the hands of Israeli attacks and occupation is NOT antisemitism. Being against the Israeli government’s oppressive policies towards Palestinians is not antisemitism. At this point I’m sick of Israel I wish we would stop supporting them so much smh
The media won't have it any other way. Celebs are getting cancelled for defending innocent Palestinians.. We must support blindly and not question.The news is not objective unfortunately.
@sumerlawrence that’s a fact the news here in America is definitely not objective, that’s why I watch news from multiple sources in multiple countries around the world. It’s fascinating how much clearer the story gets and how much info is left out from out news here!!
The U.S. appears out of line with the rest of the Free World because from multiple foreign news sources, while people everywhere were and are appalled at what Hamas did in Israel and want those kidnapped to be returned unharmed, what is being observed and reported now is Netanyahu’s revenge war and collective punishment against the civilian Palestinian population. 20,000 Palestinians dead including over 5,000 children.
Apparently no one was listening to Sunny! She was telling them this is the law. Yet they kept esp Alyssa stating this and that after Sunny explained the law and even gave case study and yet they still kept on and then Sarah clapping. Lots of grand standing without really listening. Very sad, and that was Sunny's point and then Alyssa saying they should resign as if they do not know they are in a bind that they have to speak to the legality of the schools yet they can believe differently but they are representatives of the school not their own individual non-legal ideas.
White supremacists who want hate speech against black people protected don’t agree with this statement. Muslim extremists who want hate speech against Jews protected don’t agree with this statement. I guarantee that the American people DO agree with this statement. That’s the problem the extremes of this country have hijacked interpretation of the law when really it should be applied equally.
I feel like antisemitism is taking extremely seriously. I’ve read so many stories about professors and other employees losing their jobs because their words were determined to be antisemitic. It would be nice if other forms of racism and discrimination were treated with the same fervor.
The thing is, this isn't anti-semitism anymore. It's anti-zionism, because the world is finally seeing the truth that zionism is terrorism. It's not real Judaism. Zionism is to Judaism, what the KKK/Evangelicals are to Christianity.
Isn't it interesting that 3 Palestinian STUDENTS were shot and a 6yo Palestinian boy was stabbed in America? Where is the outrage on legacy media and in the government?
I get the entire table. It is horrific that people would say those things but as Sunny..the only legal expert on that panel, has pointed out, its backed by the constitution. They can argue feelings and opinions all they want, and they aren't wrong but they need to respect Sunny's knowledge/expertise.
I need ro read up on this hearing more because in general I find that this war has made it impossible to talk about. My thing is the Law is one thing but code of conduit is another. If you started cursing out people at work, you can't counter with free speech law if the policy for employment is clear.
Then the Constitution is wrong. You should not be allowed to call for genocide. That should not be protected. We should amend the Constitution. Only an American would be so naive, so black-and-white and absolutist, as to think we are incapable of having any NUANCE about speech.
@@phantomzxro1 Im no legal expert at all but I am aware that mere cursing out others at work is not an offense (legally) but the constant act can be harassment because the attitude is more targeted towards an individual just as Sunny stated about 1 on 1 speech in this video.
Sunny is dead wrong, a University like ANY entity can have rules that limit, if you were to say something like that a private company they would fire you and the LAW allows that, that was Alyssa's point, you have the FREEDOM OF SPEECH SO THE GOVERNMENT cannot infringe, a University IS NOT the government
She is an attorney which is why it's rather strange that her response to Sarah and Alyssa's argument that a private institution is not bound by the 1st amendment was to cite Brandenburg V. Ohio a case in which the court ruled that Ohio (which is clearly not a private institution. I think we can all agree that the state of Ohio is clearly a government entity.) had to follow the first amendment and allow disgusting evil speech. I will say I have greatly appreciated Sunny's focus on international law, holding Israel accountable for how it conducts war, and reminding the audience of the humanity of so many in Gaza. But her legal argument in this instance made no sense to me and seemed to clearly lack relevance...
sunny doesn’t practice law anymore. even if she loves it, she doesn’t practice it. 🙃 i wonder why. she can only admire legal briefs written by legal minds who actually have a knack for it.
@@m.colemani think being moderate is reasonable. sara and alyssa agree and disagree on different things and rarely ever stick to one general thought bubble. that means they consider each issue on a case by case basis which is more than i can say for sunny who is largely ignorant of everything that makes her feel icky inside.
This is not about some technicality of the law that an attorney has special insight into but about the spirit of the law and if the rules are being differentially applied. It is clear to anyone that there would be no handwringing if a white student made a what could be considered a disparaging remark about an 'oppressed' group.
Alyssa using that good old rhetorical tactic to reframe what was said from directing hatful speech at someone (thus becoming actionable) with committing physical violence on someone, reducto ad absurdum. She could have simply made the point that Harvard is a private institution and not bound by the first amendment, which protects speech from gov’t action. Harvard also can make the choice to follow the law as their code of conduct, which it seems they have done.
Alyssa, the massive retaliation by Israel is concerning BECAUSE of their experience and the Holocaust. One would think this would be something the Israeli people would never want to reign down on anyone.
I been observing Alissa she’s sneaky on a subtle way she be trying to over talk when someone is speaking truth with insight, which be sunny talking what she knows
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This was a prime example of what happens when emotion overrides logic. It’s clear that Alyssa’s emotions on this subject over rode her even being able to hear the logic that Sunny was explaining. The fact Alyssa basically said that the college’s code of conduct should be able to go beyond the US constitution is enough to show she was letting her emotions override her talking points, because we have listened to her in many other topics put her logic first - mainly being when she is talking out against fellow republicans who get caught up in the Jan 6 Insurrection rhetoric.
Except that's not what Alyssa said. It's how Sunny (wrongly) interpreted Alyssa's argument. Alyssa is completely right when it comes to the University Codes of Conduct. Expelling or taking disciplinary action against a student who calls on genocide on campus does not violate the First Amendment because the First Amendment puts limits on the ability of the government to limit speech, not on businesses or other institutions. Alyssa never asked the colleges to go against the constitution. Sunny herself was defending the "Freedom of Association" and saying "It's consequences not cancel culture" when people were getting fired from their jobs for saying the smallest 'offensive' things... I guess she changes the way she interprets the law depending on the political argument she wants to make :(
