Heya gang, just a bit of an addendum to the Shiv comment in the intro because people are somehow construing this one line as some sexist putdown about a female character??? First of all, I don't HATE Shiv, and I don't think she's an uninteresting or throwaway character because she's a woman. That's ridiculous. Do I think she's the "most interesting" character? No, I have some issues with the consistency of her writing, but she's still a brilliantly crafted element of the Roy's world, and provides an interesting commentary on the misogyny prevalent in a mostly male elite class. The characters are the best thing about the show, Shiv included. So no, I'm not saying, "oh Shiv's your favourite character? You must be an idiot, she sucks!" The line was just highlighting her habit of consistently self-sabotaging when she is SO CLOSE to reaching a position of influence, and how frustrating that must be if she's your pick for the throne. I know that other characters do this too (Ken being the main example), but her failure at the Pierces, followed by HER HUSBAND being the catalyst that destroys the kids coup in the Season 3 finale are the main elements that stick in my mind. So, I was just saying: "Wow I'm glad that I don't keep getting disappointed by a character that routinely trips up JUST before the finish line, that would be so infuriating as a viewer." If that hasn't been your experience and you love the rollercoaster Shiv experience and she's your ride-or-die, all the power to you! Maybe she'll prove me wrong and dominate Season 4, and egg on my face for doubting her. But I just needed to clear up that "I don't know what to tell you...get a new favourite character" isn't some thinly veiled misogynistic dart. It's just a comment about the painful viewing experience that accompanies supporting any of these characters. Cheers, Jack x
I didn't see misogyny in the comment. Shiv reminds me a lot of characters like Sally from Barry and Skylar from Breaking Bad, they attract a lot of misogynists, but you can have problems with those characters without being one.
Word. At first I didn't understand his cruel reaction to Kerry when she came to the house after the "big event," and siding with Marcia seemed very weird, but then I remembered Kerry was absolutely awful to him so many times, when he brought his gf to the party "This isn't a shake shack," so he was definitely getting back at her in her most vulnerable moment for all the abuse.
He is basically Anti Littlefinger. Greg is such an anomaly and i love it. A bumbling idiot who can be a mastermind if he wants to. Just keeping his foolishness for the sake of making others not seeing him as a threat
I find it amusing that Greg is physically this great GIANT of a man but the family make him seem so small. It's like he has a power but he doesn't know how to use it... yet!😏
My favorite thing about Greg is that he lost his 250 million dollar inheritance to keep his job with the Roys. He's not primarily motivated by money. What he wants is to be a "player" and belong in the world of these characters. It will end up making him rich, of course, and probably destroying his soul, but it's a better motivation than the others have.
Not really. He was actually going to quit and he even met Logan to tell him that but he is just too coward that everyone in this family scares him. He got scared by his grandpa and he also got scared by Logan.. he only got stuck cause Logan shook him in that bathroom scene
We won't know if he lost it until grandpa dies. I think he's the one character with the most power and control but he only half knows it. He's incredibly likeable and charming but he also knows what information is powerful.
Greg wasn't raised by Logan Roy, so he's not going to have the awful emotional scarring that the rest of the young folks have. Tom wasn't raised by Logan either, but he's in love with one who was, and she learned all Logan's most perverse and relationship-harming tricks. I enjoy watching Greg float like a moth in a sea of butterflies or a swan in the midst of ducklings.
@@kilgoretrout321 but, as he admitted to Lucas in recent S4E7 after being the responsible of firing so many people, he did not feel bad he just did it, so cold no regrets. Maybe Greg is being contaminated by the Roys.
I think people are too focused on the big position. The Carl, Gerri and Frank positions are just as solid and important. You're gonna need a new generation to replace those crucial positions. I see Greg ending up there because he nows how to be invisible just like Gerri.
They are all positions that need a highly specialised degree and an extreme amount of real experience. The kids and Greg are out of the question, becuase none of them are qualified to fill the positions. Tom, and maybe Shiv, are the only ones that could do those jobs in any capacity.
@@1998Cebola Ken would def be able to fill an COO role at waystar if he kept sober and just did whatever his dad said like start of season 1 and in season 2
Greg won't actually realistically end up anywhere near the top. The whole point of him being a self-insert for the average person is that the average person, were they in his position, might act a little like him, might even pick up some things ambiently from the people around them, but they'll never really fit in. And when the time comes for him to be useful as a pawn or a human shield, he'll do just fine, because that's all anyone has ever respected him as. Don't pretend you'd end up any better off.
One of the things I most liked in S1 was how it showed the family would squabble over who gets more billions than the other, but can't even bother to make sure distant family ain't homeless.
One thing I haven't seen in Greg is the petty, personal mistreatment of other people. Even when he's using human furniture, he asks the person to tell him if he's too heavy and only puts one foot up. I suspect this is because, as someone who didn't suffer the abuse that the other Roys did, he isn't marred by the self-hatred that they are. So, while ambitious, he doesn't feel the need to abuse other people.
Greg is slowly evolving into being more corrupt and and selfish. He has stated to use people more and more for his benefit. He doesn’t have the sadistic traits yet, but I suspect the writers are playing with nature vs nurture. I think he will become one of the most despicable characters because he uses his innocence as a front while learning how to play the game.
@@user-tz2zz5ij1s It was apparent to me when he stated that the woman that he had liked and then dated was now a stepping stone to dating higher tier women.
Greg was actually pulling strings from the first episode! It’s a really subtle scene and I didn’t put it together at first but Greg lands his initial job at Waystar by suggesting himself as a potential replacement board member who would be more favorable to Logan than Ewan. His first step into the inner circle was done through a willingness to screw over his grandfather.
i mean yeah but to claim he's a mastermind is a stretch, if not for Tom taking him under his wing as a fellow underdog, greg would've slowly faded away @@flux.aeterna
@elistavinger3059 Hahah,that one is also super funny. Gregg truly has some of the best quotes in the series. Even if it's not funny, the "what I was going to use my soul for anyways? Souls are boring. Boo souls" is a heck of a quote.
@@santividal9387also when hes in th bathroom after destroying thr documents, running through what he will say if he gets caught 😂😂 Love that he was smart enough to know it will eventually comr out, but also smart enough to know he couldn't saynno
What I like about Greg is that it's never clear if he's a mastermind pretending to be incredibly stupid or if he's incredibly stupid and is slowly becoming a mastermind. Both options are very interesting to me and I could honestly see it going either way.
Kendall, Shiv and Roman are playing checkers with Logan. Tom is playing chess with Kendall, Shiv and Roman and Logan. Greg is playing 5D chess with everyone. Connor is playing Tic-Tac Toe.
Just one nitpick, in the beginning, Greg wasn’t a theme park employee, he was actually there to attend the Waystar management training program, so he was on the route of becoming someone in the management level in the company in the future, the same program that Roman did in season 2. He had a big leg up than a regular employee at the Park.
I’d also like to nitpick here. Ewan is Greg’s grandfather, not his uncle, meaning he’s the Roy kids’ first cousin, and not a distant cousin like the video says. Other than that this is a great video
@@bio-hazzard1233 actually it would be Greg is the Roy-kids' first cousin once removed. (The child of your first cousin). But Greg to Kendall's kids or Shiv's baby would be second cousins.
One thing I like about Greg is that he stood up to the Roys when they were thinking of getting Conor elected President. It’s one of the few moments where Greg doesn’t scheme or quietly sit back and watch, he actively says he doesn’t think they should have Conor run the country. It gave me hope about his morals (in at least that moment) and it also showed how brave he could be on top of his scheming - it was obviously important enough for him to state out loud, in a room full of Roys, a clear opinion he had.
i have a really rich set of cousins on my moms side and we got close these past few years since she passed and their mom passed too. i’m literally cousin greg to them 😭 can’t afford a taxi yet the next day i’m invited to the most expensive residential building in new york with celebrities walking in and out playing dress up. wild
“I’ve got a group of new guys Gregging for me” / “Gregglets” is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen on TV outside the many British series that capture such oblique humour.
What you all are missing is that Greg is Logan's brother Ewans grandson. I believe he not only reminds Logan of a younger version of his brother who he dearly misses but in a love hate way. Also having Greg around irritates his brother so that is a good bonus for Logan. Logan tells Greg directly in the bathroom that he likes him. And to pick "Uncle Fun"
"I'm the smartest person in the room and everybody shold listen to me". I think that's shiv's biggest personality trait either she is right or wrong. That is what makes her my favourite character
Also the fact that she’s never gonna be logan’s pick because she’s a woman. When they’re picking the next presidential candidate she’s legitimately the only person in the room who has worked in politics and yet she’s ignored, she’s always gonna be ignored at the end of the day. It’s rough to watch but i feel like it’s important
@@juliaa6399 there was an episode where they mentioned that Shiv wrote a rlly bad corporate briefing and Roman was laughing ab it. so while she is very competent in politics the corporate world Logan operates in is different and she needs the training which i think is why logan suggested a very logical 3y plan for her to step up. But shiv insecurity ab his dad’s loyalty (rightly so) made her act impulsively and sabotage herself. Def one of my fav characters!!
@@juliaa6399 Is it really because she' s a woman? Unless i'm forgetting, Logan is an asshole but he has no issues letting women take charge. For instance he obviously values Gerri's work, and also wanted Lisa first as his lawyer before knowing Ken had already got her. Shiv obviously is very smart, but she has little to no experience in the company, by choice right?
i agree. i feel like he flies under the radar because he’s not bad in the way logan is or other characters are and he’s clumsy so you think he’s harmless but greg’s kind of a sociopath. he doesn’t have much of a conscience
Great clip. In your intro "who's your favorite character, tells a lot about you", you forgot to add "If you enjoy watching Succession, it tells a lot about you." Such as getting pleasure from constant cringing watching pathetic, shameless characters bar none. Many people might feel that life's too short to spend any of it trying to acquire a taste for this level of disconfort. 🙂
@@SceneItReviews My comment above reflects my first reaction after painfully watching a couple of episodes and dropping off. To be honest I did come back to the series months later, and it was much easier, finding it quite funny. Which really proves that Succession is an acquired taste. Nothiing innate about watching abject characters wriggling under the pressure of their self-imposed toxic aspirations. :-)
One of my fav moments of Greg in season 4 is when he just casually ears dropped a conversation between Matsson and his colleague using a traductor to later give the info to Kendall. I was like: The boy is learning
i think the fact that greg feels more human, makes his character and progression all the more dark. greg is very selfish, and unlike the rest of the roy's, he knows that being selfish is bad and yet he consistently has his own best interest in mind. the scenes with his grandfather are what i find particularly revealing. he mooches, he goes to meetings he wasn't invited to and injects himself into everyone else's business. tom knows this, and that's why he busts his balls about it but still likes greg. tom knows greg has the capacity to be just as horrible as the rest of them. greg is like a trojan horse that never fully exits the better exterior, he shoots from the inside.
I just finished season 3. Greg seems like a decent guy, really sweet and puts up with a lot of crap from the family, but he’s smarter than what’s led on. Tom and Greg’s alliance is interesting. I enjoy their interactions.
Greg's not much better than the rest of them, really. Remember when, after much effort, he was finally dating that blonde girl but at the wedding, completely flips on her when he saw that other girl? Also he didn't keep those documents for some moral reason, he kept them to move up by blackmail. And then when Tom is asking him to make a deal with the devil, Greg says "What am I going to do with a soul anyways?" The only reason we think Greg is better than he is is because he's bumbling and awkward.
Agree with Kevin, Greg is not terrible, but he is not really sweet at all. He is very opportunistic. He was one of the best characters for sure though, love me some Greg the egg!
Tbh I've always read Greg as being a portrait of someone stumbling up the ladder by way of simple being (1) family, and (2) interested in the ladder. His entitlement isn't super obvious because he's always juxtaposed with everyone else, but he is the more goofy embodiment of someone who contributes nothing, has no skills, who everyone kind of hates, but still achieves some amount of success because of nepotism.
Yeah, there's something in Greg, that make him imposible to dislike! Some good part and goofiness, but also that manipulative part and skill to achive his goals! Great written character. BTW I've just come across your channel and ... you definitely should have more subs and views! You are great story teller, have nice voice and ability to interested your viewer!
Very well crafted! Greg is fascinating to see (d)evolve throughout the series, for sure. I don't quite get why we shouldn't pick Shiv as our favourite character, but I guess it depends on your definition of favourite. She is fascinating to watch mess up, bring forward her plans, only to get th summarily rejected, time after time. She's the Charlie Brown to Logam's Lucy. And her dynamic with Greg's boyfriend (and incidentally her husband) hasn't been seen much on TV. I'm always glad to see a Shiv scene, because I know a masterful disaster is upcoming.
That's definitely fair! Probably being a bit harsh on Miss Shiobhan - I more meant it must be pretty demoralising constantly getting your hopes up only for her to put her foot in her mouth (and completely implode) once again. But she's definitely never boring. Who knows, maybe she'll take control in Season 4 ;)
@@SceneItReviews It depends of "favourite" means who you root for, or just who you like watching, for good and horrible reasons. Her unique brand of cruelty towards Tom, mixed with pathetic desire for paternal approval which makes her incapable of taking any decision are what makes me so happy to see her back on the screen. Not that I don't also enjoy the other ones. This show is so very high on my list! I gotta say, my unpopular opinion is thay Stewie is way overrated. The character is associated with recurring risks to the family fortune and power, but by himself he seems to be mostly a conduit for the real threats. Yes, a funny conduit, but I still don't get the hype. He could vanish forever and I wouldn't mind it a bit.
@@PruneauYT True - you've got to be able to tolerate the ups and downs no matter who your fave character is - they all have ups and downs, wins and losses. And fair call about Stewie! I personally think he's pretty funny and enjoy that he's one of the only characters in the show (other than maybe Marcia, Nan Pierce, and Maatson..) who has the balls to stand up to Logan. Brings an interesting dynamic and juxtaposition to Kendalls habit of getting absolutely dominated by Logan during every confrontation.
@@goldenflower3182 Everyone makes a play for power - that's the premise of the show. But I don't think anyone's snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in as brutal fashion as Shiv did at the Pierce's. It's impossible to read Logan's intentions, but she seemed to be his preferencial successor until she blurted out at the dinner table and then got tricked by Rhea Jarrell into applying for other jobs. She also kept returning to Logan with seemingly false hope that THIS TIME he'd anoint her. Of the other characters you mention: - Ken's biggest public loss was S1 Ep6, but that was because Roman doublecrossed him, not because he put his foot in his mouth. He then kills the kid end of S1, which I'll concede was a major implosion point for him. - Roman only truly showed interest in leading the company the last few episodes of S3, so there hasn't really been enough time for him to self-sabotage in a corporate setting (that rocket blew up end of S1 but there were no public or corporate repercussions - he remained a 'nepotism baby with obscure senior position in the company') - Tom is now in the inner circle, and outside of the public hearing seems to leverage any public embarrassment to his advantage (working behind the scenes similar to Greg) In summary, I'm just saying I assume it would be infuriating to support Shiv if you were hoping she's going to win, because she routinely shoots herself in the foot. This could and hopefully will change in S4, with the kids teaming up, but I'm not trying to make some underhanded sexist statement by highlighting a female character's blunders, as you seem to be intimating.
😢Everyone in the family is so awful. Greg is very cringe as he inserts himself when he should hold back and just observe but i do like him better of all the family monsters. He is underestimated and that may have saved him.Gerri is actually my favorite as she is someone who survived the crazy Logan who will promote you on Monday and get disgusted with you and terminate you on Tuesday but she survives it all in the end and the odds were against her as a woman and as an older woman.
So is Shiv too. One of the best and most complex characters we’ve seen on the show. Alas the misogyny the show addresses and critiques, rears it’s ugly head in real life fans of the show.
Comedian Norm Macdonald famously said, "Play the dumb guy". It's true in Standup comedy but also in a corporate environment, you want to appear as non-threatening as possible - you don't want to give away your advantage. Imagine being at a game of Poker, and you're the loudest person on the table - you're the Phil Hellmuth, giving away what you have by not keeping your calm. Now look at Phil Ivey and Daniel Negreanu, both fantastic players and both always calm. Phil Ivey with his death stare and Daniel with his technical knowledge to be able to dissect the table all the whilst maintaining a happy demeanour.
yeah, greg's also my fave! he's just really fun to watch and root for despite him also being pretty awful morally. I do think I might disagree a bit about there still being hope for him, though. I think his bumbling nature and lack of confidence has started to wear off a bit in s3, as he's started to actually say and believe what he means a lot more (ex: not wanting connor to be president, "what am I gonna do with a soul anyways?"). and I think his devolution into becoming just another roy is where his arc is headed (especially since I can't see a happy ending for anyone involved in this show). will be rooting for him every step of the way though!
Greg’s bumbling around in the first season was fine, but by season three it get’s fucking stale. Like he’s so stupid sometimes it hurts and it’s hard to watch
@@kurosami7604 and his entire arc is him getting more corrupted I hate how many people finish the show saying he's the only one who's not evil while he's trying to sue greenpiece. and don't get me started on the watch thing while kendall gave him an apartment
On the first episode i said “oh that guy will win it all.” And i still suspect so. The show starts with him, which i find interesting considering they immediately play him to the back and focus on other characters. But we are absolutely watching it through Greg’s experience and eyes. He is the main character of this show. I’m just waiting to be right.
just 1 tiny thing i'd like to point out, by s2 greg is already 'rich' so the poor guy trope for greg only really applies for s1. however now he's rich but he doesn't act/spend it like the other rich ppl in the show bc of him being poor at first
I don't know. He was still looking at studio apartments in Staten Island in season 2. Kendall had to give him an apartment. I think he got a promotion later in the season, but he spent a big chunk of season 2 pretty broke.
He's still pretty relatable tho, he was relying on Ken giving him the watch as a gift, and when he didn't, he did not know how to buy a watch, so he bought an expensive one that didn't even work. He can have the money but he doesn't have the personality traits, he's still approachable.
yeah it wasnt until halfway through the season that greg "blackmails" tom for a new gig and tom mentions "way more money". Mind you im sure greg was making great money before, just not "billionaire" money that tom has through marriage@@Raulbikcube
Greg is more family than Tom is. That is why Tom pulls him under. Greg will inherit 250M but, more importantly, the voting rights! You know... that one vote from Ewan that helped keep Logan as CEO season 1. Logan having Greg in his company is a great way to have some power over his brother Ewan and piss him off. Hence the Ewan ultimatum at Greg to quit. Every Roy thinks Greg is a low maintenance asset. He is very important, has lots of leverage but since he is an idiot, he is cheap to win over. That's what they think! The scene where Kendall "hooks him up" with a watch but then makes him pay for it. 40k... which is nothing to Ken but he can even be bothered to invest that in Greg to win him over. Because Ken think he doesn't need too. Greg wasn't "working" at Waystar parks. He was undergoing the same training Roman did after. Greg isn't poor, his mother has a nice house. Greg was educated to be humble, to not rely on his family money. And it worked. Which only pissed Logan more because he can look at Greg and see how he failed has a parent. Hence way he yells at Roman "How much is a gallon of milk?" pretty much before sending him to... do the same training Greg was doing at ep1.
I think it's going to come down to Tom vs. Greg, and the winner could go either way. Initially the show was set up where Greg was a regular guy and Tom was one of them. As time goes on, however, they've been hinting at the idea that the opposite is true. Finding out Greg was going to inherit hundreds of millions, Greg jumping from side to side depending on who looks like they are going to benefit him the most, even small things like on the yacht where he mentions the wine is "not his favorite". Of course everyone has preferences, but a bumbling regular guy on a yacht most likely wouldn't have mentioned it. With Tom, he has genuine emotional reactions to Shiv's mistreatment of him (their marriage isn't just a strategic move to him), he was willing to go to jail for them without trying to weasel up a scheme to sacrifice someone beneath him like Greg, he has been loyal to Logan and Greg without wavering, and the show made a whole thing about his parents paying for a portion for the wine at the wedding so we would know that something like that is typically outside of their means. Greg stole papers he was told to shred, securing his own self interests, while Tom almost held a press conference admitting the company's wrongdoings because it was the moral thing to do. Greg is a blue-blood rich guy pretending to be a regular guy, and Tom is a regular guy pretending to fit in with the wealthier class. It's going to come to a point where neither of them can fake who they are anymore and that will determine the winner. I think it will go one of two ways - 1. Tom Wins - Tom's loyalty to Logan could eventually get him the win if Greg jumps ship thinking he has a better opportunity with the Roy kids, making Tom the last man standing. Also, Logan resents the rich kid personalities that his family has, because he had to earn it all himself. He may see the value in Tom getting to the top on his own accord without a hand out. 2. Greg Wins - Greg could easily betray Tom to take the lead without Tom seeing it coming due to his loyalty and the fact that regular people like Tom believe in the idea of rank. Tom is above Greg and Logan is above both, but for people like the Roys, rank doesn't exist like that. You are on the top (Logan) or you are doing whatever it takes to get there, regardless of if you have to hurt your boss, spouse, friend, parent, etc. Also, Logan seems to really care about the successor being in the family. Between Greg and the Roy siblings, Greg is the lesser of the evils, so Logan could default to him.
How would Greg or Tom win though? You really think the board members vote for Greg or Tom? This is a billion dollar company choosing Greg?? I don't see it.
@@adamriet-muller7358 I'm not sure how it would play out, but the board can be turned any way Logan wants. The show has always made it pretty clear that Logan gets what he wants (whether that is good or bad). If he decides Greg or Tom should be his successor I'm sure he knows how to make it happen with the board. The board shouldn't want any of the characters we have seen so far to take over, but it's never mattered what the board thinks because Logan can control what they do. It shouldn't be that way for sure, but it has been so far. It'd probably be the biggest plot twist in the history of the entire film and tv industry if the successor was chosen based on logic or ethics. I'd like to see it though!
I’d love to know what you think now, with the new episodes out. I definitely see some sort of Tom vs Greg showdown on the horizon. Especially with the newest episode, Greg was very much reminding me of Tom. He was playing all sides and was even written into the will. However, it seemed like Tom is kinda loosing his footing. He’s trying to insert himself and be a team player but it’s just not working and he’s not fitting in anymore. Its like their switching roles in a way. But that’s just my opinion. And I really enjoyed your breakdown. Who do you think is gonna come out on top, imo it’s gonna be Kendall. And Greg (maybe Tom) will get one of the roles that Gerri/Frank/Karl have.
I think it’s interesting that some of the most despicable character are the most able to make a good first impression and thus might not be so repulsive in person, but the characters you really like would seem totally horrible on first impression.
I reject this thesis! I think it's the opposite, Greg had to behave nicely when he was poor because non-rich people generally expect basic decency out of each other in polite society, but once he got a taste of the Roy lifestyle and way of treating people, it enabled him to luxuriate in the self-righteousness that his mother fostered in him growing up by feeding him the family mythology that one day he'd have wealth. Because he didn't have wealth, he always had to suppress that belief to get by until now. I think Greg is genuinely a bad guy, who pretended to be a good guy to get ahead, then once he had his foot in the door, he became more comfortable letting his selfish, cruel, conniving self out (especially since he saw the Roys doing it and getting away with it). I'd say most of your observations of which character is the most human are more applicable to Tom; who is a good guy, but pretended to be a bad guy to impress the Roys. Tom shows immense amounts of guilt and remorse for every bad decision he makes whereas Greg effortlessly backstabs like the rest of the Roys. Tom only seems better at it because he's been doing it longer. Personally, Greg is innately slimy and untrustworthy but Tom is decent and any of his failings come from being put in so many difficult circumstances with impossible choices.
Love Greg, especially since him and Tom has the best dynamic on television. But, I find having Greg as a favorite is "too easy" especially since he's the audience surrogate. I've chosen Tom for this challenge. He's essentially Greg if he involved himself with the family business at an earlier time. Tom sees Greg as himself if he wasn't as ambitious. Tom leveraging his marriage with Shiv, relationship with Greg, and loyalty to Logan against each other is a very interesting slippery slope to watch last season.
*SPOILERS FOR SERIES FINALE* With how the series ends , i believe that Greg can easily replace Tom in the future or at least have some leverage over him because he still has the recording of them burning evidence . The CEO position isn't a matter of inheritance anymore , so it's just another job . He didn't immediately play this card because Tom ended up forgiving him , but if Tom didn't i think he would have definitely threatened him
I like the way Greg is written with him having all this ammunition of knowledge and evidence that he's just stockpiling. It remains to be seen how he deploys it and to what end it either benefits him in a malicious and malevolent way or in an altruistic way that helps everyone... or anyone, if that's even possible. I don't think he knows how to wield the huge sword he's carrying.
Heya. Are you caught up yet with this latest episode? It's been a few months since your comment and we're 12 episodes from the series finale. What do you think now?
greg is the slimiest character on the show and everyone is calling him baby girl. you fools, he's a horrible buffoon that knows he can slide under the radar until it's his moment to shine. he's SUING GREEN PEACE!! he's not human anymore!
Greg is the only one in the family that is poor, nothing to loss, willing to take a risk, and with the support of two senior members of the board of directors. This is a test to see who would be the next CEO.
My fav character is Greg. Spoiler alert ! He is no bumbling idiot but he is a strategist. He didn't save those documents for the intention of blackmail. He saved those documents to save himself if Tom screws him over. Remember when Tom asked him where are the documents and he went "I will never tell". He knows how to play his hand. When Lukas tried to screw Shiv by making Tom CEO. In his mind he did the right thing by letting Shiv know of Lukas' subterfuge.
Btw Ken knew about the cruise doc's already at the end of S01. Greg tells it to him at the wedding which is partly why Ken starts to keep him closer in S02. It's not only just for coke and company. So it explains much better that Ken most likely approached Greg about them at the end of S02 and convinced that Greg is very close to the chopping block. Which wasn't entirely untrue, at all. Greg was at that point more problem than help for the company after the hearings, so his standing wasn't good. It was also a place to use the documents for Greg because he doesn't get the main blame for it but Ken does.
But he IS adorable, character trait portrayals aside. He has puppy dog eyes and Braun’s the typical 20-something in every way. He brings a 21st Century youth perspective into an old stuffy world. Those nuances could never be written into the script. It’s all Nicholas.
I almost think Greg’s bumbling shows that the corporate world is filled with lucky people, NOT people that worked hard to get there. it’s easy to hate greg for me; he’s all too excited to act like the roys, and will clearly do whatever he can to win. what’s scary about him is that bumbling makes him seem a bit more innocent and non threatening, so it’s always a joke on the roys when he pulls one over on them and betrays them. i think his character is sinister as fuck.
My favorite character is Willa. Absolutely. But as for Greg, he's sometimes a bit painful to watch. I keep thinking maybe if he were a little bit smarter, he'd own Waystar already. Or maybe got himself into a problem he couldn't get out of. I don't know
Tom was my favorite character and I hate dinner parties. I also thought all of the characters were likable... well, except maybe Shiv. But even Shiv was well written and definitely had plenty of personality. They were all complex, original, and entertaining to watch - which is the most important thing for a character to be - entertaining.
I kinda hate when Greg is put under that bumbling idiot banner, I do get it since he is the comic relief and exactly so there is kinda an insert from normal life to contrast the absurdity. Still mostly he is awkward, knows he is under Everybody in the pecking order aka don't have much to say for any request for him to deliver even tho he has zero clue about anything in the world he goes in (then he seems like an idiot because he is panicking trying to please everyone, not knowing what he is doing). Still Greg got the ATN gig for Tom by finding out that everything wasn't digitized, like he ain't a complete doofuz. Also he actually changed Logan's mind on even considering Connor as president by first time having balls to say that it's a really bad idea (and Logan sees him as the general voter ofc, nonethless he changed Logans mind by not keeping it in what he originally said). Also some people don't see the character with in mind that apart of episodes happens a lot what we don't see and where they stand when the episode starts tells something about it (or someone is being screwed) and the episode is the most critical moments and not all of the moments. So people judge Roman also waay too low on the scale of his skills. Glad someone atleast sees that Shiv may be smart but she is Super entitled even compared to other characters and that says something. The company would have been her by agreeing to be fast-tracked to the top, go to the Shanghai for a year. Ken had done it, was it a year or two in there + a lot more training. Shiv couldn't even learn the basics and left the company or read a magazine always when was time to learn the business from ground up. That's why they All laughed at her powerpoint in the plane. Just for that unwillingness to learn and just trust that she is smart, she would be crushed with real business talk. Like Rhea swept her instantly and no one took her seriously in the office at the start of S03. Roman atleast could go get some outside US money, got guns pointed at him and could say that he doesn't trust the actual negotiations after all that.. in very crucial spot, already in S02 and people rank him way below Shiv in capability. He also got Maddson (Alexander Skarsgård's character). Even tho it was hinted at the party when Ken and Madsson/maddson spoke that his platform might not be as working as everyone thinks, but I don't know, it could've been a throw off line and the point is anyway that Roman got the task done. Anyway I don't even hate Shiv as a character as much as the fact that people judge the characters on very surface level when they are written with much more depth and it shows in their actions, both successes and screw up's totally mirror how they've been ultimatelly presented.
This is a perfectly fine choice. Do not let the haters dissuade you! Conner has made the deliberate choice to check out. He chose low status and peace instead of the moral taint of naked greed and manipulation.
He will always be an outsider.. I am hoping he will have something to do with all of them not "winning" or getting the golden ring in the last episode.. I wonder if this show will end optimistically or just being an absolute downer.. killing any hope for the possibility of a lack of TOTAL corruption in the media. Let's hope for a hint of HOPE in the last episode.. Please? Cj
