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Unpacking the Clique Franchise 

Ashley Norton
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#theclique
Hello everyone! I've been waiting to do this video for a while and I'm so excited to share it with you all. Even though I tried to include as much as possible - I inevitably left out even more crazy moments from the Clique series. Def drop your favorite moments in the comments. Otherwise, I hope you enjoy me talking about tweenage media for far too long.
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@dominiqueknight6707
@dominiqueknight6707 Год назад
Every time you mentioned a book I thought “oh, THATS the one where I stopped reading” and to my horror I slowly realized that I, too, actually read the entire clique saga
@kit5165
@kit5165 2 года назад
i, too, tried to stand up to my 5th grade bullies by going “did i invite you to my bbq? then why are you up in my grill?” 🤪 it made the bullying worse!
@Psalm2Charity
@Psalm2Charity Год назад
I hope you're still slaying
@swain-Ix1tv
@swain-Ix1tv Год назад
they were haters who couldn’t understand your vision
@annasmith6090
@annasmith6090 2 года назад
The fact that middle school boy books were fantasies about the hero within yiu but middle school girl books were realities about the villain within you...
@morbidsearch
@morbidsearch Год назад
Diary of a Wimpy Kid tho
@bbogwater7570
@bbogwater7570 Год назад
​@@morbidsearch greg heffleys frightening villainy and psychotic behaviour is an outlier and should not be counted
@alisiajimenez7787
@alisiajimenez7787 11 месяцев назад
@@morbidsearchpop
@spicedch4i
@spicedch4i 2 года назад
It's kind of wild to look back on books like these from my childhood as a queer girl. Like they're so aggressively straight on the surface but the boys themselves don't even matter, its ALL about the girls and their relationships
@meghansullivan6812
@meghansullivan6812 2 года назад
oooooooooohhh
@laceOlivia
@laceOlivia 2 года назад
This blew my mind.
@caitlingill
@caitlingill Год назад
Similar to Mean Girls I guess?
@fluffmcpuffles2686
@fluffmcpuffles2686 Год назад
ooooh that makes sense.
@avr7120
@avr7120 Год назад
thats me with all the barbie movies lmao. though a few did have solid male characters, mostly it was all about the girls "friendships"
@SeptemberWits
@SeptemberWits 2 года назад
I’m forever haunted by the fact that my little 12 year old self convinced my parents to name my little brother Landon after reading all the books
@bratzbb2k1
@bratzbb2k1 2 года назад
the power u hold is indescribable
@berrybaby1570
@berrybaby1570 2 года назад
Incredible
@grey.poupon
@grey.poupon 2 года назад
Omg kinda similar but 10 yr old me convinced my parents to name my brother lucas because of the actor lucas grabeel from hsm
@noelanilewis5104
@noelanilewis5104 2 года назад
Girlboss
@Catladycatherine
@Catladycatherine 2 года назад
@@grey.poupon Lol I also convinced my parents to name my sister after a Disney star (Brenda Song) when I was 10.
@anne5182
@anne5182 2 года назад
Not me refusing to wear gold and silver jewellery together my entire middle school existence because of this series
@teapartypenguin1353
@teapartypenguin1353 2 года назад
I still refuse to combine gold and silver for the same reason.
@bluesforeveryone
@bluesforeveryone 2 года назад
I do too 🤦🏼
@mollyrainjay
@mollyrainjay 2 года назад
Oh my...I forgot where I got that irrational fear from. It was these books.
@CamelDerpina
@CamelDerpina 2 года назад
omg I didn’t realize this series is where I got this from 💀
@anne5182
@anne5182 2 года назад
Also did anyone else get the random hate on for Keds from this series 😂😂😂 I had no opinion on them before but
@shawnaejames7817
@shawnaejames7817 2 года назад
Me thinking there were like seven books… “THERE WERE TWENTY?!? DOES IT FOLLOW THEM THROUGH RETIREMENT?!?”
@leahdavis9434
@leahdavis9434 2 года назад
Funny enough no they don't even graduate middle school
@Goldflower220
@Goldflower220 2 года назад
@@leahdavis9434 yep. it ends during the winter of their 8th grade yer
@luckystarberry
@luckystarberry 2 года назад
BRO THEY GOT AS FAR AS HAVING MASSIE DATE A 14 YEAR OLD AND THAT WAS IT. SO MUCH DRAMA FOR LITERALLY 2 YEARS OF THEIR LIFE (7th-8th grade) 😂😂😂
@gabriellaw.5785
@gabriellaw.5785 2 года назад
lol I follow the author on Instagram and she hinted at making more books ❤️
@felix_a_fiend
@felix_a_fiend 2 года назад
Wait until you hear about Warrior cats-
@sarahh4927
@sarahh4927 2 года назад
As an Autistic person, I remember reading these books back in middle school and viewing them almost as anthropological studies that I thought could help me understand how to navigate middle school social hierarchies. They ultimately didn’t end up teaching me much about how to be “popular” (thankfully I could tell that most of things these characters do are not something you’d want to emulate lol), but they were actually kind of a useful guide of what things were considered particularly socially awkward or weird or uncool. And they helped me understand the politics of cliques and all the complex rules to social interactions beyond the basic “be yourself and be kind” rule that I’d previously believed was the only rule I needed to know. I mean I was still bullied terribly all throughout middle school lol, but at least these books made me a little less confused about why that was happening.
@shootingstarbit
@shootingstarbit 2 года назад
hot damn me too!! undiagnosed at the time, but looking back I was totally convinced this book was gonna help me
@alexaf4186
@alexaf4186 2 года назад
dude same!! as the other commenter said, i was also undiagnosed at the time, so books like this and any "how to be a person" books were my BIBLES
@birdword111
@birdword111 2 года назад
I feel like this would be true for me, too (if I read the books), and I'm autistic as well. And I think I secretly wanted to read the books but I had a "not like other girls" image to maintain.
@lolalover24212
@lolalover24212 2 года назад
Also autistic, also studied these books LOL 😂
@molly863
@molly863 2 года назад
Yesssss
@caaronjolras
@caaronjolras 2 года назад
my friends and i had a "nice clique" that we called "PSA: pretty, smart angels" in middle school because of these literary masterpieces. we also had a "blah-g" wherein we would detail the crushes we had with their clever nicknames we gave them 😭 some of my favorite memories
@minivan1680
@minivan1680 Год назад
That's so cute 💕
@SarahZ
@SarahZ 2 года назад
OH MY GOD I'VE BEEN MAD OVER THAT SLEEPOVER LINE CHANGE FOR YEARSSSSS
@giannabruce7174
@giannabruce7174 2 года назад
I've never read these books, but I knew that line sounded familiar haha-- I think you mention it in a video
@SarahZ
@SarahZ 2 года назад
Hahahahaha holy shit I had forgotten what a sociopath Claire was. This is amazing
@spicedch4i
@spicedch4i 2 года назад
hi sarah!! love your videos so much!
@Angela.Perkins
@Angela.Perkins 2 года назад
Claire reminds me a little of Greg Heffley from the Diary of a Wimpy Kid series. At least in her attitude and some of her behavior. lol
@caitlingill
@caitlingill Год назад
@@Angela.Perkins or Cady from Mean Girls or Jenny from Gossip Girl
@FIRING_BLIND
@FIRING_BLIND Год назад
Sarah!!! Hi :)
@sunrope77
@sunrope77 Год назад
@@caitlingilltai from clueless
@paperoses1
@paperoses1 2 года назад
Massie had 13yr old me fighting with my mom to wear high heels to middle school 😭 the unrealistic chokehold The Clique had on us…..
@lona9461
@lona9461 2 года назад
I was trying dressing like them I used to try an emulate their vibe at church or when I went to town with my mom, church for goodness sake😅
@burgermeowster
@burgermeowster Год назад
I always wore heels in middle school or at least ballerina flats and I hated taking them off for gym
@massieblock9770
@massieblock9770 2 года назад
“ehmagawd” the way i modeled my entire life after these books back then is embarrassing 🤣 becoming brand aware and wanting to be “alpha” of my own clique did not do me or my personality any favors
@mia4630
@mia4630 2 года назад
UR NAME HELP
@lockheart619
@lockheart619 2 года назад
I have been saying "Ehmagawd" for the longest time and forgot where I had got it from. 😩
@whatadinosaur
@whatadinosaur 2 года назад
stop because i did the same thing…
@luckystarberry
@luckystarberry 2 года назад
Girl I was 12 years old born into poverty tryin to be Massie Block of all people 💀 the cope I had tryin to get through middle school by pretending to be a fictional spoiled character 😭
@Unpoeticirony
@Unpoeticirony 2 года назад
You forgot the completely plot necessary bet that Claire and Massie had where Claire couldn’t outfit repeat and Massie just… couldn’t buy new clothes for a month? What a world we grew up in…
@kenna163
@kenna163 Год назад
And then at the end they became friends. I loved that book
@BrianaMichelleMeyer
@BrianaMichelleMeyer 2 года назад
I read these books religiously in middle school. The era of The Clique, Gossip Girl, The A List, Pretty Little Liars, The Luxe, and Private remains unmatched.
@martyparty0494
@martyparty0494 2 года назад
I remember when I was reading "Bratfest at Tiffany's," my friends grandparents saw me and chimed, "Oh I love Breakfast at Tiffany's!" And already feeling shame for my literary choices, I did not correct them, but agreed, I too loved that book I have never read.
@CosmicGaijin
@CosmicGaijin Год назад
Hopefully you eventually learned that it’s a movie. Lol
@lvitacahill2383
@lvitacahill2383 Год назад
@@CosmicGaijinit was a novella too
@MariaLCirillo
@MariaLCirillo 2 года назад
Tell me how I am 26 years old and I can still tell you exactly how I pictured Massie’s pure white bedroom and how I thought it must’ve been so classy
@Ariannagxo
@Ariannagxo Год назад
And pop of purple cmon
@kateregier7713
@kateregier7713 Год назад
With the green apples 😅😅
@Mej111
@Mej111 Год назад
I wanted a MacBook because of her 😂
@SavvyMuhon
@SavvyMuhon 11 месяцев назад
@@Mej111 I wanted a Palm Pilot because of her hahaha
@heyitsheidijay
@heyitsheidijay 2 года назад
The absolute CHOKEHOLD these books had on me and my personality from ages like 11-14.... Oh *man*. I had a weird preteen/early teenagehood so I still look back on them so fondly despite some of their more... Problematic aspects 😂 And can we just take a moment for the cover designs??? Lives in my head rent free. Those summer novellas tho... Absolutely and truly iconic in every way. 👏🏻
@gray2578
@gray2578 2 года назад
As someone who had literally never seen these before in my life, I cannot explain to you how lost in the plot sauce I became at Bark Obama
@mikoletea
@mikoletea Год назад
as someone who read all the books, I don’t understand why they decided to name him Bark Obama..
@basicgorl
@basicgorl 2 года назад
i love this video sm thank u for ur service
@ashleynorton
@ashleynorton 2 года назад
Thank you!! And love your vids 🥺
@Kas_Styles
@Kas_Styles 2 года назад
Same
@neb.9489
@neb.9489 Год назад
I 100% lived vicariously through Massie. I wanted to be her. I was bullied so badly and dreamt of being popular and running the school as a middle schooler.
@AutoNoOne11
@AutoNoOne11 2 года назад
The girl who plays Claire said that the reason the other movies they signed for didn’t get to be made was because of the 2008 recession.
@Jen-uk6ly
@Jen-uk6ly Год назад
Kind of unfortunate like I lowkey wanted to see how they used the books
@suagrbunn11
@suagrbunn11 2 года назад
i dont think that publishing company understands how much they impacted zoomers or millennial cuffs. its absolutely crazy and i would love to find out why we have so much mean girl content? it was a big shift from the "nice goofy girl" was it the rise of documented bullying going on in schools? ex: the clique vs dear dumb diary (to me which is the original finsta) vs the clique the pendulum be pendalin'
@ashleynorton
@ashleynorton 2 года назад
I think it all came from the book mean girls was based on - because it was basically a scare piece for parents to worry about clique culture and then mean girls, bratz, gossip girls were all written by the adults who read that book. That’s my guess anyways
@SocialExperiment232
@SocialExperiment232 9 месяцев назад
There definitely was a rise in bullying awareness. Kids before we’re told they were weak if they got picked on. At least by this point they were calling out the bullies. A lot of us really struggled with mean girls so I was glad about this.
@rachelz57
@rachelz57 2 года назад
I read these back in 2005-2006 and the only line I remember is "there's a letter in your mailbox", said by massie to alicia's cousin for the heinous crime of wearing a thong 💅
@Lyrawolfbane
@Lyrawolfbane Год назад
😂
@detectiverose
@detectiverose 2 года назад
As a grown adult, I have played The Clique: Diss and Make Up and I can confirm that it is 3 hours of petty glory
@raredoll
@raredoll 2 месяца назад
i have too! i still have mine and my pink Nintendo DS and I’ll play it every now and again for the nostalgia, the fun , and petty drama filled storylines ✨
@wmm8715
@wmm8715 2 года назад
I bought the movie on iTunes and watched it on my little iPod Nano EVERY night before bed, IN FULL, for probably the entirety of 5th grade. This chokehold was simply unmatched
@TheSlipperyNUwUdle
@TheSlipperyNUwUdle 2 года назад
The characters feel so much older when you’re also twelve when you’re reading them. Lmaooo You could have held me at gunpoint and I probably couldn’t tell you these kids were supposed to be 12 years old.
@writteninthestars02
@writteninthestars02 Год назад
especially if you also read something like The Babysitters Club and you're like, 'wait, these girls are the same age?'
@Jen-uk6ly
@Jen-uk6ly Год назад
@@writteninthestars02 esspicially them ! Like I could’ve swore they were at least freshmen in high school😭
@themonalisha6337
@themonalisha6337 2 года назад
yesss, Alicia was my favorite bc i'm Black, and she was described as having olive skin, so she was the closest character I could attempt to identify with😂(I also technically have the same name, so that helped)
@UNCCCollegeGirl
@UNCCCollegeGirl 2 года назад
LITERALLY the same😂😂😂😂😂 come on POC !
@ellax325
@ellax325 2 года назад
@sewer~rat Was she latina? Or was she Spanish?
@cashmoneychanel1209
@cashmoneychanel1209 Год назад
Lmaooo me too but she was white bc her mom was Spanish aka white 😂
@AreweAble
@AreweAble Год назад
​@@cashmoneychanel1209 nooo literally in my brown bb mind she was latin like me 😭
@trabadass
@trabadass 2 года назад
WOW THAT PURPLE STREAK WAS A MEMORY UNLOCKED wow did I really read all of these books too. I was obsessed with the Clique so much I blacked out a lot of this. Thank you for this.
@lyssadee3832
@lyssadee3832 2 года назад
Mentioning Bean the black pug unlocked a core memory for me... I would love to see your analysis of the A-List books! Other than Gossip Girl I feel like they are the natural sequels to the Clique novels.
@maddieb.4282
@maddieb.4282 2 года назад
Omg I read so much of the A list as a young teen!!
@SJisReading
@SJisReading Год назад
Was it the mannequin she had for the dog that she put the dog's outfits for her walks on?
@cheyennemarie7075
@cheyennemarie7075 2 года назад
This series was the og influencer for me. I wanted the Marc Jacobs Daisy perfume for YEARS!
@dizzydee6362
@dizzydee6362 2 года назад
If you're interested there's a podcast called "Girl Like Us" that breaks down the plots of each book as well as other tween books like Monster High that came out in the day. Unfortunately the quality fluctuates in terms of meandering conversations and kind of cringe opinions on the characters and Lisi Harrison herself, but since it's literally one of the only other places that deepdive into my favorite nostalgia book series I'll take what I can get :')
@holly5048
@holly5048 2 года назад
mood i found that podcast precisely because i wanted to find discussions about these wild books but yeah forewarning they do A LOT of tangents and meandering which not necessarily bad but i stopped listening because I wanted to hear more about the books
@dizzydee6362
@dizzydee6362 2 года назад
@@yukijames1321 Yes! They'd talk about such out of pocket things like their high school orgy parties??? And what kinds of s*xual things they thought the (12YR OLD) characters might do.. They even go as far as to call Lisi Harrison a bitch and a garbage human being in multiple episodes. I was so surprised when they had her on as a guest! The first few episodes were excellent esp because it was the first fresh clique content I'd seen in years. But it so quickly derailed into tangents and skipping entire sections of the book because it was 'boring' and then getting mad because the plots seemed nonsensical and confusing! The only episodes I liked were the ones where they brought on a guest star cause the guest usually kept them on track of discussing fun plot points and actually getting through the whole book. Idk why I'm so heated about a literal children's book but oh well :'D
@TheSlipperyNUwUdle
@TheSlipperyNUwUdle 2 года назад
My biggest takeaway from these books is how much I wanted a lipgloss of the month. Lol I don’t (and didn’t at the time) even wear lipgloss.
@c0ttage
@c0ttage 2 года назад
I wanted that soooo badly
@LuvFearlessly
@LuvFearlessly Год назад
Glossip Girl
@luckystarberry
@luckystarberry 2 года назад
The Clique was just my gateway drug into the Gossip Girl books. As insane the clique was for only featuring 2 years of insane shit for 5 girls its nothing compared to the plot lines in the GG novels 😭
@priyathebrantley4048
@priyathebrantley4048 2 года назад
Gossip Girl books are truly unmatched. Love them so much!
@CiaoBellaBee
@CiaoBellaBee 2 года назад
So I’ve never read the books (I read the Ashley’s instead) but I was obsessed with the film and I never picked up that Dylan was supposed to be “fat”?!? I just thought her mum was toxic af and forcing her ED habits on her child!
@ashleynorton
@ashleynorton 2 года назад
They (very understandably) toned it down for the movie. But still wild
@ClaireGravenhorst
@ClaireGravenhorst 2 года назад
To be fair I'm pretty sure that was the point. Like the kids don't know but you're supposed to. There's also an ED plot line with Massey during the camp book.
@tamurmur
@tamurmur Год назад
The Ashleys was such a wild series
@dizzydee6362
@dizzydee6362 Год назад
Omg I remember the Ashleys. Wasn't the alpha girl terrified of losing her status over a peanut allergy?? Absolutely wild.
@MoriMementa
@MoriMementa 2 года назад
I once ended up with a paper grocery bag full of these novels that had been donated to the church library. They wanted me to read them and make sure they were appropriate. Needless to say, they weren't, but it was fun to laugh at them. Massie and her cohorts seem more like a cautionary tale than a fun series for kids. "Remember children, wealth makes you stupid."
@karmalotus22
@karmalotus22 11 месяцев назад
I grew up around upper middle class people who were just... way too well adjusted for any of this shit. The parents, teachers, students, the whole damn community would never allow any of the evil shit that goes on in this book. None of the beauty standards, pop culture references, lack of diversity, obscene wealth, etc represent my teensge years at all. I feel bad for people who actually grow up with adult supervision like the community in this book. Not a single character would be considered normal to anyone I know in real life.
@GlitzxxGlam
@GlitzxxGlam 2 года назад
My older brother would always blame my bitchy antics on The Clique Series. Said he was going to sue Lisi for doing this to girls. 🤣🤣🤣
@lupakajsalisa3652
@lupakajsalisa3652 4 месяца назад
Your older brother got involved with and read up on your favourite book series for that burn? Joke's on him, he was actually being thoughtful
@spaceface320
@spaceface320 2 года назад
I remember first reading the books in 7th grade, the same grade all the girls are in. It never clicked that they were all my age, 12-13, they just seemed so much older and cooler, like wearing heels to school. But darn it, if I didn’t model my own sense of style after what the books described
@lydiawalker0714
@lydiawalker0714 2 года назад
This series got me into reading. I read it from 12-16, slowly collecting the books as I saw them at the thrift store. I never tried to emulate the characters' bad actions and I understood when they were being insecure or stupid. I mostly admired Massie's combacks and all the parties the characters threw. I still have all my copies plus the movie tie-in and manga editions of the first book.
@godpristine
@godpristine 2 года назад
this series had suchhhh a hold on me in my preteen years 😂😂 like this video unlocked so many memories i forgot i had. seriously it’s so hilarious to me that i actually read everyone one of these books like these plots are so insane 💀
@artsygal112
@artsygal112 2 года назад
Here's the thing...I lived in Westchester at one point in my life. In two places actually. In one town, yea it was more diverse and representative. In another town though? It was a pretty affluent town. And I was one of the maybe 4 black families in the entire place. My family and I felt like circus animals when we moved there cause we were watched so much and seen as different. So the representation in this book?....not that far off
@artsygal112
@artsygal112 2 года назад
I always was able to picture these books in my head cause I kind of knew where they came from
@Lyrawolfbane
@Lyrawolfbane Год назад
I’ve been to westchester before. So the books were definitely accurate. Lol 😂
@tinyrat275
@tinyrat275 2 года назад
The line “one does not simply skim the Bible” finally got me to sub omg what a zinger
@mrselfdestruct7605
@mrselfdestruct7605 2 года назад
Literally i was considering starting a youtube channel to talk about this series 😂 you beat me to it haha EDIT: Id also like to add that Lisi is also is the author of the Monster High books
@ositaiza888
@ositaiza888 2 года назад
omg i loved the monster high books it makes so much sense that she wrote those too
@gummidusa1076
@gummidusa1076 2 года назад
The monster high books are lowkey great
@strangeduckling
@strangeduckling 2 года назад
You should still do it! I'd be super interesting to hear different experiences, opinions, and analyses about this series. Plus, it would be neat to compare and contrast your and Ashley's thoughts. There's not really many videos about this topic, so the market is far from saturated, and you might offer something that hasn't been voiced anywhere else. Good luck if you end up creating a channel :)
@charlottemay7256
@charlottemay7256 Год назад
that's insane because when she was describing the school uniform contest i was like "this literally happened in the monster high books".... i loved those things. truly the greatest of all the monster high media.
@neb.9489
@neb.9489 Год назад
The monster high books are so good. I still wish they would make a version of MH that matches the book. I know it probably wouldn’t appeal to kids or match with the new gen of Monster High but they could make it for adult fans
@Mskittenlover12
@Mskittenlover12 2 года назад
The Clique was the first series I had to go to the YA section of the library for and I was terrified of the YA section as a middle schooler. 🙃
@taylork8857
@taylork8857 2 года назад
Me too! funny how I felt like I needed to sneak around as if I'd get in trouble for being there
@kaseypearson3130
@kaseypearson3130 2 года назад
I also have all of these books taking up space in my brain from middle school so thank you for making this 👍
@Kas_Styles
@Kas_Styles 2 года назад
1:46 - 20 books (15 main, 5 novels) - 1 extra book (Cliquetionary aka dictionary) - Manga Spin off - 1 Movie - 1 Nintendo DS game - Spin off series (The Alphas)
@gracethompson7153
@gracethompson7153 2 года назад
Just thought of a great comeback: “Claire are you a bad driver?” “Because you can’t seem to stay in your lane!”
@minivan1680
@minivan1680 Год назад
Omg this is great! 🤣🤣🤣
@jtrose7540
@jtrose7540 2 года назад
One thing that I remember vividly from these books that made me really uncomfortable was when Layne dressed up as a Native American as a form of protest. I think it was the book with the overflow trailers
@breakfastatdds670
@breakfastatdds670 2 года назад
I think that was bratfest at Tiffany’s
@FushichouRyuu
@FushichouRyuu 2 года назад
Dial L for Loser! I actually have that one on Kindle from forever ago
@che3rub
@che3rub 2 года назад
this book series turned me into a teen drama addict in middle school, which in turn introduced to the gossip girl books. very cursed time indeed.
@mirandafreakinghunter7452
@mirandafreakinghunter7452 2 года назад
I wrote a spec script for a pilot for a Clique series just like for fun once. I was going through all the books and highlighting them. They’re so friggin funny
@Jen-uk6ly
@Jen-uk6ly Год назад
That seems sm fun - I’m going to try it 😭 did you use like the first book or stretch it out in several books ?
@Katduerr
@Katduerr 2 года назад
these books literally shaped my entire YA life, i remember printing out a wikihow on "how to be like massie block" while reading the books and saving up to buy the newest one from target
@fantasyfiction101
@fantasyfiction101 2 года назад
I remember liking the prequel and owning it, Dylan should have blamed Massie for her ED because she didn’t have one before she met her.
@dollbowz
@dollbowz Год назад
this came up in my recommended as i've been watching your content a lot and omg it unlocked SO many memories. i grew up with these books as well and i was neurodivergent, homeschooled, and growing up in a Christian cult so i was so vastly interested in what i thought were such "glamorous" lives of people with friends who were like allowed to socialize n go to parties n kiss boys (u know like. normal teenager things) bc i wasn't. but i totally agree with your ending point, it did kinda show me that the lives i so desperately craved and the people i wanted to be so badly had insecurities and problems too. i very much DISAGREE with that article abt it being like woman-hating bc even tho some of it aged poorly n there's misogynistic tropes that i wish weren't there, it rlly did help me get a bit out of my NLOG mentality a bit at the time and see the "other girls" as just people with different interestes than me, not better and not worse. side note: my main critique is if it was satire ... why go SO hard on the fatphobia n classism bc u can portray that it's a real issue that young girls deal with without those insane jokes abt Dylan. i used to think Tumblr was the start of my ED but...this was the real origin story I'm realizing, yikes!
@Izzy-cp8yt
@Izzy-cp8yt Год назад
I swear this comment could have been me 😅 homeschooled, christian cult, definitely not average up in my head (but no diagnosis yet). These books were such an escape for me, even though on some level I knew they were toxic as heck.
@mia4630
@mia4630 2 года назад
I still own the entire series, it’s just too iconic to get rid of
@maoise5387
@maoise5387 2 года назад
i went to a private, catholic, all-girls school in westchester for middle school & high school. the school demographics definitely didn't reflect the actual diversity of the county, especially since a lot of the girls there actually lived in new jersey/connecticut/the bronx. a teacher made us all watch the clique movie in 7th grade and i was at first like "this is so true...... i hate popular girls...... fuck rich people" while also disliking the franchise. i enjoyed this video, thanks for making it!!!
@tiffany1705
@tiffany1705 2 года назад
The 13 y/o really jumped out with the "well actuallys" on so many minor details you mentioned, that's humiliating for me. jsyk the Hart-netts is a play on Josh Hartnett who was a teen dream actor at the time, not calling themselves harlots
@erienoja525
@erienoja525 2 года назад
Wow your commentary on Alicia being your favorite makes so much sense to me now lmao she was also my favorite, and I am in fact queer
@mekko902
@mekko902 2 года назад
I still pat my face with my towel after I shower because of these books. Sooo glad this series is being addressed. I aged out only 5-6 in, but...damn, they've really stuck in my brain.
@teapartypenguin1353
@teapartypenguin1353 2 года назад
I remember this series for being entertaining for the drama, but also very weird given the characters' ages. I was old enough when I read it to realize how ridiculous the plots and characters were. And there were odd moments of sexualization for characters who were 15 at the oldest, most frequent example is a girl describing hers or another girl's breasts (happened too many times). I vividly remember Maisie (14) being jealous of a 10 year old with B cups bc she was still an A. She gave Alicia a lot of crap for being a C cup too. I still don't know if it was trying to be satirical or serious.
@luckystarberry
@luckystarberry 2 года назад
Lmao Massie is the prime example of toxic friendship. I remember points where she would defend Alicia if she got sexually harassed but then insult her in the same breath cause Alicia did one thing that Massie HATED 😭
@teapartypenguin1353
@teapartypenguin1353 2 года назад
@@luckystarberry I remember it was because Alicia had the potential to be rival queen B to Massie or even more popular. Alicia was most likely to go against her too. So keeping her as 2nd in command was better for Massie, and constantly putting her down was part of it. Massie was a little demon.
@jalapeno1119
@jalapeno1119 Год назад
That seems pretty normal pubescent behavior.
@basil6060
@basil6060 2 года назад
i always identified with dylan bc i was the “fat girl” in a diet culture world.. if only if i could go back and tell my younger self i didn’t need weight watchers and i was literally a healthy normal weight☹️
@SarahZ
@SarahZ 2 года назад
I was WAITING for a video like this
@ashleynorton
@ashleynorton 2 года назад
dude i'm so honored. My parasocial heart can't handle this
@jumies4056
@jumies4056 2 года назад
@@ashleynorton HAHAHA I FELT THIS COMMENT
@JuliannaDimino
@JuliannaDimino 2 года назад
So glad someone finally cracked the code of what the Heart-Nets was supposed to be referencing. This has perplexed me for over a decade. Thank you for your service.
@LaurinwithHoney
@LaurinwithHoney 2 года назад
I think it might actually be a play on Hartnett like the actor Josh Hartnett 🤔
@daniellestallworth3226
@daniellestallworth3226 2 года назад
@@LaurinwithHoney You're right, Josh Hartnett the actor was really hot at the time (I think) and I remember him mentioned in previous books in the series
@FlyMore100
@FlyMore100 2 года назад
I really like your analysis of this series that I loved when I was growing up. I think you illustrated its strong points really well. My main issue with it, once I grew up, was that to me at least, I felt like yeah obviously girls like Massie aren't often kind girls. They're bullies. BUT they are still popular, still fashionable, still have friends and people who are interested in them and their lives. And that made me want to be like Massie, and I definitely put too much focus on trying to be fashionable and popular, shirking some of my true nerdier interests in the process. I don't think I had enough critical thinking skills to engage with these books properly lol. And I was such a Claire honestly lmao, a poor wannabe with strict parents and no true fashion sense. But, we live and we learn.
@LauraCrone
@LauraCrone 2 года назад
Wow thank you for this public service. I have an absolutely formative memory of learning both the Claire and Massie monologues for a competition that sold itself as an American Idol-type audition for the first movie but was actually just a sweepstakes to get to visit the set for a day or something, but boy did I seriously believe that was gonna be my Big Break for at least a day. I still remember the Claire one started "Uh oh, I taste pennies. That means I'm gonna throw up." I don't remember the Massie one as much but I think she was talking to Bean. Anyway I absolutely read these books in secret because I was "too old" for them (13 when the first one came out, a full adult!!) but my younger sister wasn't, and I thought I had only read the first 3 or so but I am SHOCKED to discover I still remember Skye's riddle from book 7. Thank you for this nightmare 5K down memory lane, sealed with a taco-flavored Glossip Girl kiss.
@bre-cav
@bre-cav 2 года назад
I owned every single one of these books as a teen 😅 These made me love soccer (in theory- never played or watched cause sports bore me) and are the sole reason I still cannot bring myself to buy Keds 10+ years later. I think I really related to Claire as a fellow poor kid, but Massie was definitely the most interesting/funnest part of these books, for me.
@raredoll
@raredoll 2 месяца назад
i’m such an LBR for finding this video 2 years later , but this was perfection 👌🏼
@jaz_luo_studio
@jaz_luo_studio 2 года назад
Hi, Ashley. Your video inspired me to finally rent The Clique movie. I watched it with 2 friends who graciously agreed to experience it with me. Massie's pronunciation of "CUH-LAAIRE!" - iconic. Thanks for this video.
@OMGheyitsalexis
@OMGheyitsalexis 2 года назад
How did I not realize how problematic Kuh-Laire was
@neb.9489
@neb.9489 Год назад
I hated Kuh-Laire as a kid and now I knew why 😭 I never cared for her in the back of my brain. Honesty she’s “not like other girls” main character like Gabriella or any 2010s movie main female character
@kieraj.1808
@kieraj.1808 2 года назад
thank you algorithm for giving me this gift of a video🙏🙏 the clique stan to english major pipeline is real lmao! subscribed - so excited to support your channel!
@danielacordero3376
@danielacordero3376 2 года назад
WHAT this video unlocked a previously buried and inaccessible part of my brain.... I can't believe I forgot about this series! You do God's work Ashley
@UNCCCollegeGirl
@UNCCCollegeGirl 2 года назад
Gosh I used to be OBSESSED with these books but once I got to high school I stopped ready at book 5. This was very nostalgic for nervous me who was going to an all-black poor middle school which was EXTREMELY different than the books I read😅 thank you for the trip down memory lane👏🏾
@happy_girl_1
@happy_girl_1 2 года назад
This series was such a significant part of my middle school experience. Macey taught me what was “cool”😂
@minivan1680
@minivan1680 Год назад
Mahhh-seeee
@lindseymarie3532
@lindseymarie3532 2 года назад
I was OBSESSED with the Clique DS game when I was about 9. I played it all the way through about five times. You have to get in with multiple cliques in order to get into the Pretty Committee. The first group that accepts you is the eccentrics (scene/emo kids), then the art clique, the music clique, the athlete clique, and then the Pretty Committee (i may or may not be forgetting some cliques, its been about 12 years since I played). For the "jobbies", I remember there being at least one being a food mini-game and one being a fashion mini-game. You would unlock different clothes to buy when you gain access to each clique. You could customize the appearance of your character a bit in order to make them look like you. I never read the books, but the Clique game was legitimately my favorite DS game of all time.
@caitlingill
@caitlingill Год назад
Is it bad how Id rather be with one of the artsy groups (emo/art/music/scene etc) than the popular preppy Clique? 😂
@taylorhuber7370
@taylorhuber7370 2 года назад
I’ve never read or heard of this series but I was so entertained by and invested in this video omg I found your channel the other day and I binged all your vids immediately, love your stuff and congrats on 1K ❤️
@juliekennedy9891
@juliekennedy9891 2 года назад
Same!!!!!!
@deaddoveinside
@deaddoveinside Год назад
I definitely didn’t realize there was so much animosity towards Claire until now. As someone who did not have any true friends at that age and desperately wanted acceptance and attention for a lot of my childhood, she was the only person I could relate to in those books 😅 yikes
@SocialExperiment232
@SocialExperiment232 9 месяцев назад
I didn’t not like her I just always struggled with what her intentions actually were. Sometimes it seemed like it wasn’t actually true friends she wanted. But I also didn’t realize people hated her this much. She was 12 and trying to survive, she had flaws but nothing that bad. I didn’t realize people nitpicked her personality sooo much.
@jessicamattes4208
@jessicamattes4208 Год назад
I've watched this video so many times and I just now noticed that the book Ashley uses throughout the video is "The Scarlet Letter." This truly displays how "The Clique" franchise should be viewed: as an iconic piece of classic American literature
@HazyPinkSky
@HazyPinkSky 2 года назад
Congrats on surpassing 1k!! Your channel is gonna blow up soon, it’s crazy how quality your content is! I’ve never read the clique but I get excited every time you upload because you do such a good job of presenting information
@adrivoid5376
@adrivoid5376 2 года назад
God I read all these books as a kid- and now being a lesbian, realize I felt the Massie/Claire drama. I also really liked Kristian and wished she’d leave the group and have real friends, and Dylan stop worrying for her weight. Funny what did go over my head as a ten year old in terms of content in the book- and also me being a complete ‘lbr’ I found it funny and mean girls are just iconic I cant help it
@13Ram107
@13Ram107 2 года назад
I wanted to have this on in the background while at work but I've now realized that it needs to be listened to in the comfort of my room with a big glass of wine and possibly the movie playing in the background. Can't wait!
@lockheart619
@lockheart619 2 года назад
"I didn't trust the movie to do the book justice so I refused to watch it" GIRL SAMEEE
@rubysongster2409
@rubysongster2409 2 года назад
I'm stuck at home with COVID and I cannot express to you how grateful I am to have stumbled upon your channel this is the one thread of sanity I'm clinging to
@whatevadad1312
@whatevadad1312 2 года назад
omg you are my new favourite youtuber - I cracked up so many times in this video but I also really loved your retrospective at the end, especially the bit about boys being allowed no-thoughts-head -empty media but girls not being allowed it. thanks so much for making amazing videos!!!
@Aster_Risk
@Aster_Risk 2 года назад
I'm 8 years older than you are, so this book series was out when I was past reading YA novels. I saw the movie though, and liked it. So, I was interested in hearing someone talk about the books. This was a lot of fun!
@lhn9015
@lhn9015 Год назад
I liked your closing remarks a lot! I read most of the clique books and also some of the alphas books in middle school and I really enjoyed them. Even as a nerdy little middle schooler I initially was skeptical of the books at first glance, like why would I want to read about a bunch of mean popular girls? But once I gave it a shot I had much of the same thoughts as you did, like the books provided an interesting insight on the “other side” of popularity as well as a deconstruction of the social order in schools like theirs and mine. Obviously it has its problems (thankfully, I personally was not influenced by Dylan’s ED behavior) but I don’t think it’s right for people to judge these books on a surface level without actually knowing what they’re about
@hideflen6078
@hideflen6078 Год назад
I learn something new every time I come to your channel! Thanks for making videos about stuff you like, because you help make the world a more interesting place.
@emilykate0835
@emilykate0835 2 года назад
I read all 20 of these books in 7th grade. Twice. I remember the first one I read was Dylan's summer novella, then tried to go back to the beginning but the first couple were checked out from the library so I started on like book 3 and annihilated them. I read all of Alphas, read the Cliquetionary, read the prequel (I think they're in like 4th grade in that one??). I was a movie anti and I wish I knew about the DS game because I definitely would have loved it. I was unhealthily obsessed with these and I wanted to be Massie Block so bad. In hindsight it's so clear they're satire but oh god I was 12, had no critical thinking skills, and no thoughts head empty like these propelled me into insecurity for years 😭
@holly5048
@holly5048 2 года назад
this video is so iconic. I’d forgotten how much wild shit had happened in these books and yr commentary had me dying. Also thinking about it now these books were bascally written reality tv for me in middle school. Like I was obsessed with the fascinating trainwreck of insane events that happened coupled with all the girls hogwild actions. This series was so entertaining and just chefs kiss. I literally have lines from this series seared into my brain even after all these years which quite honestly is an amazing feat.
@trishgoud17
@trishgoud17 2 года назад
how did we literally live together and NEVER talk about the clique
@ashleynorton
@ashleynorton 2 года назад
Lmao the only thing we didn’t talk about probably
@summercannon8238
@summercannon8238 2 года назад
I think the only exposure I had to this series was the fact that I bought their summer vacation books as a box set from a scholastic book fair in school - BUT this was such a throwback, I'd completely forgotten about them!! Also, I know this is a Major longshot but at this rate I think you might be my only hope - I remember reading this book when I was in third grade, and I THINK it was part of a series called like the 5th Avenue Girls or the Main Street Boutique Girls or something like that. All I distinctly remember about it is that it was a book that had recently come out because it was a gift in hardcover (so probably 2005) and that it was one of those books where every chapter was in a different POV. It definitely fell into the archetype of being "wealthy/upper middle class white girls going on an adventure" that a lot of these sorts of books were. And the fact that it was a thicker book - like, probably longer than the five Clique summer novels put together. I feel like it was an inch to an inch and a half thick - if you can think of it, please let me know!!
@ashleynorton
@ashleynorton 2 года назад
Dang I wish I knew. Have you checked the tip of my tongue subreddit? Those people are on it
@esther7976
@esther7976 Год назад
Did you ever figure out the name of the series
@summercannon8238
@summercannon8238 Год назад
@@esther7976 the tip of my tongue reddit came through and helped me out! it was the beacon street girls
@livingwithlananh
@livingwithlananh 2 года назад
So grateful RU-vid recommended me your channel! I clicked on this video SO FAST because I’m obsesseeeed with your breakdown! Congrats on almost 5k subs!
@ariadnes8201
@ariadnes8201 Год назад
no bc i'm so glad i stumbled on this video bc i didn't have any friends who read The Clique series when i was younger so revisiting this series that's consumed the niche corners of my brain was so refreshing! these girls had sucha chokehold on me that i even made them on sims 4 once HELP 😭 but this was such a fun walk down memory lane and i enjoyed this video sm
@graceanderson7933
@graceanderson7933 2 года назад
I now understand why my mom wouldn't let me read these books when I was a kid...
@varmiiii
@varmiiii 2 года назад
I remember getting these from the library as a 10 year old immigrant kid still learning English and being confused as hell. I completely forgot about them until recently and I read the blurbs on Goodreads. It's... a lot more than I remembered lol
@jaz_luo_studio
@jaz_luo_studio 2 года назад
The way this video unlocked memories .... I definitely also read the whole Alphas and Monster High series lol
@lyannastarkweather
@lyannastarkweather 2 года назад
This video just made me consider the hold that Alloy Entertainment had on my pre-teen years. I read the first nine Clique books and the first two Vampire Diaries trilogies in middle school and early high school (circa 2007-10). Sad to say, they helped inspire my love of reading, so I guess I do owe Alloy a debt of gratitude.
@videodiaryofvanna
@videodiaryofvanna 2 года назад
I was helping my parents clean out my old room now that I have my own home and uncovered these books I LIVED FOR. I used ‘given’ on the regular. Love this vid!
@jadedavis1190
@jadedavis1190 2 года назад
I don't know why, but this has made me want to write tween book series about a group of girls, similar to clique, but without problematic shit like ED.
@minivan1680
@minivan1680 Год назад
Same! 💕
@eek1455
@eek1455 2 года назад
finally catching up with all of your video's that i missed ! as a big fan of TVD the show and the books this was really interesting to watch !! (also thank you for not going into depth about dylan's ED i really really appreciate it)
@bbbeansss4757
@bbbeansss4757 2 года назад
as someone who grew up in Westchester let me tell you the demographics of all the characters being white is not surprising. i won't deny the entire county is pretty affluent, but the upper part is where all the celebrities and rich people live in their mansions with their fancy prep schools and the main demographic there is definitely white. i didn't grow up with a ton of minorities either, but the towns around me had more because they were more urban centers close to the bronx
@sofeyuh
@sofeyuh 2 года назад
aaa I used to love these books ! I find it hilarious that you mentioned that your mom was like "wow ! what a young academic" when you were reading the series bc my dad used to *hate* that I read all of these books and referred to them as "trashy novels" 😩 but they were ~literature~ to 13 yr old me lmfao maybe i'm just materialistic but tbh i think the clique kinda fomented my love of fashion ?? anyways u r hilarious and thank you for making this vid !!!
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