That horse is happy!! If they don't want to do something they won't!! Did you see the rider ever use his whip?? Nope, the horse was jumping well and happy.
It looked to me like he kicked up at some moments when he was on the wrong lead, the issue was needing to get onto the right canter lead to be balanced
Ok, so I don't jump, nor have I ever, (other than bareback over hay bales... lol) but to those of you saying it is "abuse" or "cruel" and ha, I love this excuse, "they weren't born to jump for their own pleasure"... One thing I have to say. Humans weren't born to chase after balls across a field, or JUMP JUMPS like horses, but we enjoy it. Why shouldn't a horse? And anyways, if a horse didnt want to do it, it wouldn't do it. And I bet those horses get better vet care and feed than my horses do. (And not because I'm a bad owner.) And do ya really think the riders would pick a horse that WASN'T FIT TO JUMP? Especially over those jumps in a competition? Just my opinion. Everyone has one. :) And bravo to horse and rider. Magnificent. *o*
Skywriter yesss there is a horse like that at the lesson barn where I ride too. Getting him to trot is such a chore, but then when we start jumping, I'm constantly having to check his speed and calm him down! He loves jumping, and he sometimes freaks me out because if our striding is a bit off, he'd rather jump long than add an extra stride before the fence. It's really funny too, because after we're done warming up and are ready to jump and my instructor starts setting the fences up, suddenly his hears prick forward and he gets really excited and starts walking super fast and will start cantering at the slightest touch. I love it. He's such a powerful horse and has so much speed, but you wouldn't know it by just watching him trot.
A lot of horses buck through lead changes, especially jumpers because the fast pace and high jumps get them excited. If you notice, the only times the horse bucks are when he's doing a lead change.
+Samantha Liew Lead change is where they leap from the leading canter leg to the other. its a lot like a flying change except you only do it once rather than one after another. :)
Yeah, because he doesn't want to switch his hind lead. Looked like the only times he was actually using his hind end was for taking off for those massive jumps. Very impressive round though
I'm not a jumper but my mare does give me trouble sometimes switching leads. She doesn't buck per say...but she gets choppy and stubborn. She also gallops off lead which i don't like. it makes galloping on trails and roads a little scary.
To the IDIOTS that say the horse is in pain, I say learn to ride. My daughter had a little pony of 13.2 hh, we backed, schooled and bought him on, he loved to jump, and would always buck after the first fence, I swear he knew when he'd gone clear, as when he did he did two huge bucks after the last fence, but never bucked if he had a fence down! The horse in this film is enjoying himself.
If the horse had a problem with the back or was stiff in any area it would never have been able to cover a course like that in the way it did. Saying otherwise is talking a good sword fight without ever having picked up a sword.
Watch his ears. The ears are the key to a horse's emotions. They are pricked the entire way. The rider never had to use a crop, and the horse was fighting to get more speed at every jump. ( The head nod thing was the horse trying to get control of the bit)
I completely agree but just because it's funny I have to tell you about my mare who LOVES the hunter and jumper rings and loves jumping more than anything and she still puts her ears back because she just wants to listen to every word I say, she isn't voice taught she is jump very clever lol
The bucking was leg changes btw, all the showjumpers do it. Amazing, it's easy for us to sit there and just go "he could have ridden it better" but I could not do that, and I doubt many people watching this could either. :)
The guy didn't do anything. The poor exhausted horse did. Wonder how much abuse the horse had to endure to get to that point. I don't see all the horses kicking out, only some. I have horses and am good friends with a racetrack vet. I know how most racehorses end up with leg problems. I can only imagine these guys. Heavy riders, landing hard on fragile front legs and banging the hell out of back legs on post when they miss. Yeah you people know what you're talking about alright. Meds keep them going though
***** I would think that would throw them off balance. I have ridden many horses that have to change leads and this would really hamper the performance. Probably horses way of protesting the whole ordeal
***** I thought they were saying the bucking was showjumpers way of changing leads. I don't really know. All I know is there horses look miserable most of the time.
I love horses like that "I feel GREAT!! We need to go faster!" It's so much fun to ride horses with that much energy and when they love jumping that much it makes it even better. The rider was great too.
Monica Teichert excuse you when a horse is in pain in its legs it is lame and therefore is unbalanced, ears back, limps, ... not kicks its leg up into the air which would only cause it more pain because it comes down harder in the words of you, "stupidity all around"
I get a kick out of peoples' responses on this subject how some jumpers kick out after being 'Q'd' especially after the last jump, none of these animals are in pain, its just a response from being key'd up, excitment, and yes, some horses love to jump! They must have the talent, drive and emotional balance to achieve such, the rider has to have the same;)
i would barely make it through the first three hurdles. then i would either be airborn or on the ground. one time i went over a small 2 foot jump and i was on the horses neck instead of the saddle. and all i hear is my trainer screaming "HELLS DOWN, CHEST UP!!!!"
Sometimes horses just buck. They're live animals, sometimes they do whatever they want to do without explanation. Not everything they do has a meaning behind it.
exactly in my book this is horse abuse,how the owner is pulling back on the horses mouth causing thw bit to send pain threw the sensitive horses mouth and causing him to pull his head up trying to pull away from the pain,and the huge jumps at least 4ft or more carrying a 100+ Pound rider and 8f the horse was lucky enough he was cooled correctly and not watered more then 5 and a half cups of water
Well, show jumping is a delicate balance between getting a good time by going fast but also not rushing the jumps so that you can get the correct striding. To get over those huge jumps, the rider needs to make sure the horse will somewhat conserve his energy, and during the approach to the jump the rider needs to lift the horses head and put more weight onto the haunches. The pulling back that the rider was doing didn't seem to be excessive. And the horse probably got enough water- to get that far in jumpers you need to take care of the horse properly, and the horse looked like he was doing well. Just because you think the rider is a "bad rider" doesn't mean he or she doesn't know how to properly take care of their horse.
This horse is not being abused... HOWEVER, he is not being given enough reins to extend his neck over the jumps, and you can clearly see the struggle where the rider is pulling and the horse is pulling away. Not giving enough reins over the jumps mean the jump gets shorter and more stiff intsead of the typical "fly over the jump" that is usually seen. To avoid the pulling and pulling back, this horse simply needs more ground work and dressage.
To some extent, I agree with you, but let's look at this course from the horses point of view. He must successfully navigate what must surely be described as very intense obstacles. The rider could have loosened up a bit, but this may have had the opposite effect. Of course, I am basing this on watching the video from afar and not up close and personal. Just my 2 cents........🎩
the reason the horse is kicking out is to get its lead change. Some horse have a difficulty with changing leads and kick out to get them. No harm in that.
For a marvellous bucking jumping horse, look for videos of Libero H with Jos Lansink! Libero's nickname was "Volvo-collector", as he won several World Cup tournaments in which the first prize (besides a lot of money) was a Volvo car. Libero often bucked right after the hurdle, so if Jos changed directions right after landing, a lead change might have been the cause in his case also, but having watched Libero H in his sporting years so many times, I conclude that he just liked bucking. He was a stallion at that time too, used for breeding, which might have added to his playfulness. His "children" are amazing as well. Libero H was a great ambassador for the Dutch Sport Horses.
Delaney Richardson noticed it almost correctly 11 months ago, but not entirely, because this French horse isn't bucking, but kicking at the rider's right leg. (For a real bucking horse in a showjumping course, look for the Dutch stallion Libero H, as I wrote earlier). The French horse in this video is clearly more comfortable in the left lead gallop. He sometimes only changes to right lead with his front legs, but not his hind legs. For the rider this is very uncomfortable and the "steering" less accurate, so the rider wants to change the hind legs to right as well. He comes in with his right leg and the horse reacts by kicking towards the riders spur, but follows the "change!" command, as you can see after the kick. For right turns you need a right lead canter. I've seen this happen with a Frisian stallion who really had a bad canter and a very strong preference for the left lead side too. Getting him to canter in the right lead made him kick at the riders leg as well, even if the rider wanted to go into canter from a trot. Groundwork in the circle eventually solved this problem. Like humans and dogs, horses also have a stronger developed left or right hand side.
Brilliant, how high were the jumps do you know? Just a couple of months ago an Irish showjumper - Michael Hutchinson jumped and cleared a 7.5ft wall, and I have to say what a proud day for Irish equestrians!
Jumpers and most other horses are athletes, in my opinion training them and utilizing them as working animals is more humane. The way animals work in general they want/need a job to do, or else they will become unhappy. Yes they can't always tell us when something is wrong and mistakes can be made, but you can see the remarkable amount of trust the horse has for his rider. The course is obviously difficult and the horse wouldn't respond so well to the rider if they didn't have a good positive relationship. Also none of you people commenting accusing of abuse right off of the bat have any room to talk negatively or to even say the horrible accusations you make. If you aren't the owner of the horse, or the vet who was on site or the vet who sees the horse I honestly don't think you have room to talk. You have no way of knowing for sure. I have owned horses, but I can more easily compare this situation to my dog. She is a complete working dog, hates being clean, spoiled, and even hates being inside. when she is she just wines all the time. She LOVES having a job to do. we do sheep dog trials and agility. The whole time she is running the course she barks at me, and it is because she is so pumped up and excited and she just wants to go, not have to wait for my cues, and even on another note, my dog who I have hand raised since a puppy NEVER had a bad experience with men, but she doesn't like them I cannot explain why, some animals are just different. They are all individuals and have distinct personalities. Just like humans horses/dogs other animals express themselves even the most highly trained ones. This horse is obviously not in pain or defiant not only do the owners and trainers and riders spoil these horses, they love them, and even the snobby greedy ones aren't going to put their entire livelihood and pretty much their source of income on the line. These people aren't stupid they have far more experience than most of you who are commenting. If you know anything about animals and especially working animals they LOVE to work. That is what they are built to do naturally. Yes there will always be mistakes and accidents, but no one purposely tries to hurt the animal or themselves. So just honestly enjoy the video and stop with all the sore criticism.
+Charlee Capron I think you're totally right, you can tell when you're riding a horse that doesn't enjoy what it's doing and it certainly wouldn't have made it to that level if it didn't love its job!
I met a horse that was used for vaulting. Beautiful draft cross, very obviously loved what he did, and loved the girls that competed on him. His first job was a Jousting mount. He HATED it. The owner competed only twice on him (to make sure that he truly hated it and it wasn't equipment/rider problems), and then found him a new home where he could enjoy himself. The first owner still checks in on him occasionally, and is incredibly happy that the horse is happy with life and his new 'job'. Animals of many kinds will tell you whether they are happy with what they do or not. It's up to us to learn their 'language'.
well, this is an wonderful course, and as some people is having a little fight because of what's happening with the horse, I think that as this was about age XX, the equine traditions changed, that means the way of taking care of a horse, wasn't better than today and no longer worst, we can say everything but this horse did an amazing work. Even not knowing "what?" or "why". I respect the others point of vision, by both sides.
omg the comments are unbelievable! ! if you dont know about show jumpers...hunters...or horses in general than you really shouldn't make nasty comments that you know nothing about....geez
BRAVO!!!!! I am so in LOVE with this amazing horse! LOVE how this horse bucks and kicks after EVERY successful magnificent JUMP across this ridiculous obstacle course, FANTASTIC!!!
DakotaAlice definitely not cute! But it CAN mean the horse is enjoying himself. For example, when you turn them out and they run and do small little bucks and toss their head :)
Thatkid Smith I agree. He was feeling high spirited and enjoying the course. And to others he was not rushing the jumps at all. That was a brilliantly ridden ride and the horse and rider were working together as a team, trusting each other and frankly the horse was enjoying it.
That was one of the longest most grueling courses I have ever seen.. Horse was unbelievable and rider did a great job piloting that very talented horse around ...bravo to both !
the horse might of been bucking because it was having fun or he might of had a cramp or something so he bucked to get rid of it not because he didnt want to jump if he didnt want to he would refuse!
What size are the jumps? Anyway they seem big ;) The horse took them beautifully and amazing teamwork between horse and rider :) And i love those kind of horses that put in a buck when they know that they did a good job :D
These two seem to fill the whole stadium with excitement and joy! Also, at 2:54, I'm convinced that chestnut was planning on clearing the whole darn pool!! It fills me with ecstasy to see such a confident horse loving his work so much
Melann Johnston it honestly didn't even look like a spirited little buck that you do commonly see in jumpers but i agree he was not in pain or would he wouldn't have done so well. Looked irritated like maybe had a biting fly or a boot that was bugging him?
Everyone saying the bucks are to change lead, or the horse is doing it because he is changing his leads, you need to really go back and watch. The horse never bucked when changing his leads, he was either on a straight away or turning on the same lead. He could buck because the rider is causing him pain, the saddle, his joints hurt, or he is just aggrovated from doing something he isn't full okay with, it hard to tell. And before anyone says 'you can't make a horse do something they don't want to" yes you can! People do it all the time, but horses are experts at adapting to their environment. They learn to do what is asked weather they want to or not for survival. Now some horses are exceptions to this, but for the most part it is universal in horses.
I didn't say he was sore. I said he could have been. He could have just been having an off day. And horse will do what they need to to avoid pressure (I.e. Yank from the bit, spanked with a whip, soured, etc)
If the horse was sore it probably would've refused a jump but the horse cleared all of the jumps so the KICK was showing the horses excitement and it probably wanted to go faster
ScarsFromTomorrow What's your problem? Horses buck and kick all the time. From enjoyment? Fear? I think it's from having fun. Some do it more than others!
He's not doing it because he's having fun. You can tell especially at 1:38 when he does a cow kick. Not to mention if you actually watch the horse it's obvious he's not comfortable or happy.
Jamie Maguire You make me smile. Indeed, I agree. That horse was in tip top shape E. Deanna, giving 3 crowhops (mini bucks) while going around the course he was in such high spirits and enjoying himself so much. Some horses love to jump and thrive on the competition, the crowd, the challenge. This one clearly loves his job and works as a team with his rider. That was quite a daunting course but well handled by both horse and rider.
:/ dont care what u say i say my own opion dont like it and i dont really care ok ? iv shown this to many and just yesterday i showed it to a retired show jumper WHO SAID THE SAME THING AS I DID -_- so i dont fricking care what u say im saying its in pain along with all 23 ppl iv asked
wow what a team, you can just see how much that horse loves it! He can't wait to be pointed to the next obstacle, he charges through the water and down the drops, trusting his rider all the way. Beautiful to watch! Don't listen to all the non-riders who say this is cruel guys, the rest of us can simply see, by understanding the animal, how much this horse loves to jump
I don't see pain here, I see a horse that's typical for the show ring. Not once that entire course did his ears come forward. He's sour to the whole thing and though he'll do it he rushes the jumps like nobody's business and the 'bucking' is all part of his 'I'm not happy' show. If there was pain and it was bad enough to elicit a reaction it wouldn't have been to kick out with just a single leg, not always the same leg and he would have given a refusal somewhere. Nice round no doubt but it looked careless to me.
The Horse tries to say to the rider " No no no!! I wouldnt did it because its to high!! And my legs .... please stop it i wouldnt do it!" And the rider only put the Spurs in the Horse and say run run run run jump jump... i wont win the Price, alone! " thats not the right way !!
most people do just sit there because nobody wants to work for it anymore, but at a level like this, NO rider is just sitting there, that is raw talent!
Hi BestDanTheMan80, wanted to share with you, I have jumped professionally for over 30 years & I wanted to tell you that every time I go over an entire course, each time I hear the audience cheering after the jump, it gets my horse & myself very excited that we are doing our job to the best, & it gives both of us inspiration and push real hard and more perfecta for the next jump, because in an ungodly course like this one we need all of the possible backup help we can get from every single cheer
Truely amazing. Im starting horse riding and dressage soon. This is one of those million dollar horses with spring for legs. I can hardly imagine how the owner are going to feel/how they felt when the horse dies/died... excellent training!
Thank you. I do understand the way you explained it. My daughter and I are just back from a lesson, she was told that she did a flying lead change after a jump so you also explained what the instructor was so happy about. This video makes my two little x jumps today seem like childs play... but I'll get there one day:)
There were a bunch of flying lead changes, but none if those ever looked like bucks, and never should. The horse could have been in pain, but I doubt that being this guy seems to have a great bond with his horse. The horse could have just been feeling better than normal, and a lot of horses buck like that when they feel like they are playing, including mine. I hope this helped with some confusion!! :)
This is one good horse for jumping so well when he is in pretty obvious discomfort…I'm surprised not more people have commented on that… but the course was an aweseome setup…
Oh my gosh thank you for posting this! my whole life i have been told that being an equestrian isn't a 'real sport' but no one understands how much skill and muscle it takes to get your horse to do what you need them to do. Not to mention the connection you must have with your horse.
In effetti é così.. Tutti pensano che la maggior parte dello sforzo lo faccia il cavallo.. Ma io ho praticato per tanti anni e posso dire che dopo un ora di monta ero stanco alla solita maniera di un allenamento di calcio.. In più dico che per fare un percorso del del genere ci vogliono a Nni a Nni di allenamento.. Un buon binomio certo nn lo crei in un ora.. Per nn parlare del fato che cavalli di questo livello sono molto difficili da montare... Dal video nn sembra perché stiamo parlando di uno dei cavalieri più forti di quel periodo.. Ma per chi ha montato a cavallo si vede e come gli sforzi che deve fare il cavaliere per fare un percorso netto.. Come tutte le cose prima di parlarne bisognerebbe essere informato..
His ears weren't pinned but tails swishing during a buck is not technically a bad thing. It's like if you were jumping for joy or jumping for safety, certain muscles tense regardless of the situation and the same goes for a horse's tale.
Mine does.. I have gone to dressage in his older age, and simply b/c I should have all along.. He has the incredible gaits meant for it but I found jumping to be much more fun. Mine is in NO pain, and swishes his tail when he is concentrating or paying attention.. You can't judge all animals by one motion, sorry. This horse IS loving what he is doing. Like has been said so many times on so many riding videos-- If a horse WANTS you off his back- he will do so, even a freaking pony is way stronger than we are.. We are talking about 10 times our weight and strength, no matter what is in their mouth or on the riders boots, or all that blah, blah, blah..
A rule of thumb is that any obstacle 3ft high and over requires considerable skill and work from the horse and rider. Horses, interestingly, tolerate more work (lactic acid build up) than human athletes, and so can run a course like this but need a lot of preparation and recovery afterward. Horses in top athletic sports have "seasons" because they cannot be kept at peak fitness year-round, they need a time where they chill out in pastures. So, done right, it's not overwhelming on the body.
Wow that was a *really* hard course! And especially for a jumping horse with having to jump *into* the water instead of over it! That's always hard for show jumping horses on this level. Such a beautiful course though.
1. That was one intense course 2. What a beautiful horse 3. what an amazing rider 4. I wish my horse could do that 5. HOLY WATER JUMP ! 6. Gotta love when your horse bucks in the middle of a course 7. Loved the french ;)
HOLY. FREAKING. CRAP. SUPER HORSE there, man. That is intense. *I* was scared for him on a few of those jumps. The bucks were really cute, too. That horse has some serious spunk.