Unreliable CCS Chargers Have Driven Me To Sell My Lucid Air! Is The NACS Tesla Model X My Next Ride? 

Just another excuse to buy another car. Can't be taken seriously anymore. But fun to live through someone with more money than sense.

Surprise, surprise. Not! Last week he was bragging on how wonderful it was.

Dave, I recently test drove a Lucid Air at the flagship store in Beverly Hills and also noticed the non-smoothness transition from standstill to moving forward. Tesla is definitely a smooth transition. Love your videos, thanks for your informative content.

Go for it, Dave - then I can experience it vicariously through you and Kathy. I really enjoy watching your videos. Thanks!

What a shocker, he's buying a car. I haven't really been watching Dave's channel anymore. RU-vid just recommended this video to me.

lol he just uploaded a almost 2 hour video of his road trip to Maine with his daughter in the Lucid! Continuity Dave!

Looked at the X & we sat in both, 5 & 6 version. (Sat in that actual Ultra RED Plaid in Smithtown showroom!) 2nd row 6 seat configuration is so much more comfortable than 5/7 seat bench. Also we would want white or cream interior. Not paying 80K (before the Federal incentive) and NOT getting the car we want. If Elon moves the needle another 10K, count us in!

If a red 6 or 7 seat option for the X drops below the $80k threshold for the tax credit, it’s going to get real compelling. Especially for those of us, a few years out on Cybertruck.

Hey Dave, I enjoyed the video and I wanted to say two things first, I know you said a few videos ago I don’t remember exactly when about Lindenhurst. I grew up in Lindenhurst I lived south of Montauk Highway on linten Ave. Second The reason I’m bringing that up now is because I watching this video I see that you went to the Tesla showroom located in St James. I just happen to live just across the street just south of 347 with all the construction and I see you driving down Browns Road which I frequent a lot. Just wanted to say hi and welcome back to Long Island. I have visited that Tesla showroom a couple of times I don’t currently own an electric car but I’ll definitely look into a Tesla when I’m ready. Lucid was nice but too expensive. thank you for your informative videos!

You’re talking yourself into it Dave but the horn button thing and not having a turn signal stalk don’t seem to me to be great engineering per your original comment. The vehicle seems to be priced appropriately at this time, good luck with your new purchase and by the way the EGMP platform cars also start smoothly from a dead stop.

I pulled trigger on a Blue X 5 seater 1 month ago. Super happy. I transferred my FSD from my 2018 Model 3. Hallelujah!

I have a demo ride tomorrow morning after dropping off my model 3 for some wheel touch up and harness recall. Looking forward to it.

sweet color choices Dave on the Ultra red and black. Me likey likey too!

Good luck Dave!

We also bought the 2016 60D. We did unlock the top of the pack. Tempted by the new pricing, range, and charging speed, but we also don't drive often and like having no car payments.

You do a great job with your videos Dave! I am glad you do drive and own many vehicles-saves me the trouble. Your comments and observations are spot on. Keep up the great work. Own a Model Y for 3 1/2 years- great car- lots of road trips. Just turned 65 and want something new for my birthday…yeah nice problem, but this may be my last car purchase. So I have been on the internet nonstop and testing out multiple vehicles. Really did not want another Tesla. I wanted something roomy that would travel smoothly and have decent range. I go on road trips about 6 times a year and have used nothing but Tesla superchargers, which have been without any incident. I am willing to try the other chargers….and definitely another car. So my choice boiled down to a Kia EV9. I could get a fully loaded GT for around $67k. I took it out for a test drive and liked the seats, driving characteristics (no Tesla, but a smoother ride than my Model y). Lots of room and some nice features including V2L and V2H (planned but not yet available). So many RU-vid videos describe a lot of good customer satisfaction with the EV9. A lot of buttons and many layers of software would be a challenge, but I am retired and I have some time for a challenge. Kia will apparently be adopting NACs soon,whatever that really means. So I was ready to purchase- I had test driven the EV9, and the week before, the Model X. The Model X design has been around for almost 10 years, but the recent refresh certainly is…refreshing and overall good. Kia is new to EVs but certainly not to cars. EV9 is “first generation”, but Kia has had 10+ years looking at Tesla with all of its failures and successes. So….my wife did not test drive the Model X, and since it is so easy to schedule a demo drive (SO damn easy-all accomplished over the internet-no sales people necessary to meet you at the vehicle. A Tesla rep will contact you however), I scheduled another demo and we went for a drive. We pulled up to the Tesla service station on a Sunday-no one there. My wife said that we would have to come back not realizing everything was ready through the app including a phone # to call if there were any issues. We found the demo car, walked up to it, pushed the door handle and the door popped open. My wife was immediately impressed especially when the door would close with a button. I sat in the driver seat, looked at the layout and view and realized how old the brand new Kia EV9 felt in comparison. Of course the Model X test drive was fabulous- amazing acceleration, driving dynamics, air suspension, etc. I realized instantly that regardless of charging issues, Elon Musk issues, comparable pricing, lack of color choices (my Model Y is gray-the base Model X which qualifies for the Fed tax rebate only come in gray…), etc, etc, the choice was obvious. Not…even…close. So I have ordered another gray Tesla.

Get er done, Dave. We are thinking same thing. Except sell the Raptor, get the X. Keep our M Y P. Thanks for the reinforcement. Since you are excited about the move, so am I.

Aleays enjoy ur reviews. Good sense of humour.

Enjoy vicariously your ventures.

Really interesting keep them coming

Drove a Plaid X at Charlotte on Sunday… was nauseous for rest of day and I’ve had 4 Performance Tesla before lol. Definitely getting the Ultra Red!

Great informative video 👍

Just bought an X with standard wheel. So far, cars is flawless. One point however is that for me at 5’ 10 ish the wheel top pretty much covers of the “apply slight turning movement” autopilot/fsd advisory warning in the driver display. Yoke would uncover this completely. This came as a surprise I would not have expected.

gotta have illuminated door sills and door handles if tesla can put them. happy shopping

Charging network - yes. Road noise, comfort, FWD's, phantom braking - no. Been there, done that.

I bought the model y Austin built and it is outstanding. Best vehicle I’ve owned by a long shot. My only gripe is the stupid windshield washer….it sucks pretty bad.

Ayeee nice! Kyle really loved the Lucid, but nothing beats Tesla man, haha 😄

Dave, you just love to buy new cars. I got to say the windshield alone is worth the price. It is an amazing feature.

You said so many positive things, i think you are sold! I do have to say, however, that my recent test drive in a similar new Model X was very disappointing. At highway speeds there was a lot of wind and road noise, seemed like as much as in my old (2015) Model S. The ride was not as smooth as i had expected. In fact, it was quite unpleasant over bumps, very disappointing. Looking at other reports on TMC, I see that many other people, including new owners, are equally disappointed with the noise and the ride. I really wanted to like it, but it seemed little if any better in comfort than the Model Y, which is too rough-riding for my taste. Your title says why you sold the Lucid. i was startled to read that after watching a recent video where you praised the Lucid said how much you Loved it and how well the company has treated you. But knowing how often you change cars, i was not really too surprised. Have fun shopping (I know you will(, and good luck with whatever you get -- I see a red X in your future!

So glad you are looking at an X. I got mine in July and really love it. I got a great deal on the price I paid then, so I am not bummed out about the super great price of the car now. You pointed out all the features that make the X such a comfortable ride. One perk I got was three year of free supercharging,. The car charges really fast, so it is perfect on road trips. I am nearing the end of my free FSD, and am glad I got to test it. I will wait for FSD for Hardware 4 to catch up with FSD for Hardware 3 before I try it again. I hope you buy the car. Bailey will love the falcon doors for her back seat ride.

I test drove a MXLR a couple of weeks ago just for the heck of it, and while it is certainly a nice car, I'm really not sure I'd take it over my MYP. Before anyone says I'm nuts, part of the reason could be due to the particular test car I drove. It had a lot more vibrations coming through the steering wheel compared to my MY. It also had some rattles coming from the back despite only having a couple hundred miles on it. The weather striping toward the front of the front doors were both off and kind of dangling on both front doors, which was odd. I noticed this because I saw a piece of it poking out when the door was closed. Some other reason I might take the MYP over this are that the car is quite a bit bigger so felt less nimble, and while I think the falcon wing doors are cool, I also think it would get old fairly quickly and when closed it's not the greatest from a passenger perspective, having less head room and no door pocket. Now, the new price is REALLY good, and there's no question it has a lot more luxury features over the MY, so it certainly have a lot going for it. If Dave goes ahead with buying the MXLR, he'd certainly be driving something that's really nice.

Love the video

I’m probably getting a model x long range or plaid both bit pricey used but I want to upgrade to something roomy and fit more people since I’m coming from a small car this will be worth of the money.

I can see you in an ultra-red X. The car is too big for me but, the car looks great. Are you going to get a hitch so you can tow?

Get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ultra-Red with Ivory is really nice man! Black seats are just awfully bad! They heat up like stove plates and shows any little spot of dirt. No, go for the ivory. But what a car that is? Just bloody nice!!

😘 Love your videos ! Professional and very informative.

Dave, the State of Connecticut is loving you. I would await the CyberTruck. You loved the Ford Lightning and loved the big sized. I really see you as a fully fledged Tesla guy so why not buy someone's preorder. I am among the first 1000 and look forward to mine in February 2024. You should wait or rent one lol if you can't help yourself. I am sure you will get one but I thank you for continuing to keep our Connecticut taxes low lol.. Your doing a good job with the more than 10K you have spent in taxes and fees this year on registering all of these purchases you have bought and sold this year.

You look a little bit Fred Flintsone ish under the big panorama roof. Fits you 👌

I ordered at that wonderful price. Currently a model y Owner.

13:50, yeah, you don't get that nauseous feeling because you're not a passenger!!! :)

OK, who had Sept 19 in the "When Will Dave Sell His Lucid" pool? Will Dave get the Model X? With all the Tesla shilling Dave does on his channel, Tesla should just give him an X as a thank you...

You buy cars like you change your underwear. I can see you not keeping this for long. Maybe 6 months if not less? The Lucid looked gorgeous! I was not very surprised when you sold it! I hope you enjoy your Model X! Have a great day.

Tesla is the best....no brainer if you're looking for an electric car....at least if you travel a lot. If you charge at home and don't have to charge with CCS then any EV is fine and some are even better than Tesla but if you travel then Tesla all the way.

The X looks best in red!

I like it and I'd say do it but makes no sense if in another year you'll be wanting a Mercedes or something else. Plus you would be getting rid of the model 3. The MX fits you well I'd do it!

Hey Dave. Why not the Model S LR in Red or even the Plaid. Do you really need more room than the S offers???

Dave, I had a feeling you'd sell your Lucid the same day you got it. Anyone accustomed to Tesla's charging network and intuitive infotainment system can't part with it. If Kyle hadn't borrowed your car, you'd have sold it even sooner.

I find hilarious how something that one pays over 80k for, later it is called as “free”. Yes.. free, as 80k wasn’t enough…

I knew you would.sell the lucid, look at the video, with Kathy driving to Florida, 1st trip, and said you would sell it.

I just purchased my X a few weeks ago for 100 😫 but still no regrets, an amazing car

there is stuff in the internet about europe having a new model 3 with T in the vin. most think its for a performance version of highland. so i think its coming eventually

Definitely knew you were selling. I loved you and your sons commentary on Lucid. Definitely not a Tesla fan, so enjoy but here’s where I tap out. 😊

Hi Dave, we got our 2022 Model X back in December, so unfortunately we bought at the worst time in terms of price, but oh well. In our time of ownership which is about 9 months so far, there’s been a lot of good and a lot of bad. For the good, the car drives amazing, is extremely comfortable, good range and will definitely be a talking point if people see you open the falcon doors. Now for the bad. In the 9 months of ownership, we’ve had to have the car serviced a ridiculous amount of times. Most of them have just been squeaks and rattles that have been fixed by Tesla, most by mobile service. We have had 2 issues though which were impactful. The first, is we had to have pinch sensors replaced in the driver side falcon door due to it having an issue where maybe 50% of the time it started failing to close, it would come 90% and then stop thinking there is an obstacle. The 2nd thing which is going to be serviced tomorrow, is we have had issues with the air conditioning going out after the car runs for 10-15 mins or so, depending on how hot it is. Overall, especially with the price now, I would still highly recommend, none of our repairs have cost us anything of course and were all under warranty. Except for the steering wheel retrofit, we did buy that since the yoke was silly, round wheel is a lot better in my opinion.

After test driving both, I went with the Model S long range because of the extra 60 miles in range Remember you will save an extra 1000 dollars for referrals on the S and X. I definitely want with the Ultra red, beautiful color. I went with the S because I wasn't sure about the long-term reliability of the mechanical doors.

I ordered my Model X when they dropped the price the same day… $79,990 in the Ultra Red with the 5 seat version with Black interior too keep the price under $80,000. Got $1000 off from the loyalty which they changed to the $500 and the 3 months of FSD. Can’t wait for it to arrive…it weighs over 6000 lbs., so it qualifies for the Section 179 if you own a business as well.

Welcome back to the "family!"

@13:40 I was wondering where Cathy was. 😂

Dave, I saw an ultra red Model X on the street here in Atlanta. It looks great! I have a 2023 Y which I love, but Tesla is offering me $40,400 for a trade in. I will do the deal if I sell it privately for $49K.

RIP Lucid, Even Dave cannot take it with the charging infrastructure

Make sure to get the rear camber arms on your model X otherwise the tires will wear out much much much too fast. I put them on my model X and it really made a big difference.

When I see that windshield I see cataracts.

Understandable, Dave. Especially since you're always taking roadtrips. DCFC providers have got to up their game. But not such a deal breaker for those who only drive long distance one or two times a year, especially if other automakers pull through with NACS next year.

I test drove a Model X the other day to compare it to my Audi e-tron. The model X doesn't drive as smooth as my e-tron, which I didn't expect, nothing really beats how a German vehicle rides. Even in comfort mode in the X I still felt bumps I didn't feel in the Audi. There were some things I did like about the X, like the rear doors, made it so easy to get the car seat in and out compared to traditional rear doors. Really, the only reason I looked at the X was for the added range and of course the Supercharger network, although I have not really had any bad luck with DC fast charging on my road trips with the Audi (and the charging curve is way better in the Audi). Can't have everything I guess.

Buy it. Deliveries now out to Nov-Dec 2023

Not a fan of those yoke steering wheels 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Also, that big windshield makes little sense to me and others I’ve seen who have reviewed this car. If you put up the sun visor, there’s still sun coming in above it!! lol. What’s the point of a windshield that large? 🤷‍♂️

I could never get rid of my Ioniq 5 because of unreliable chargers and switch to a Tesla because here in western Oklahoma where I live, there is only ONE Tesla Supercharger location, while there are 9 CCD DC Fast Charging locations in the same area of the state. Also, the Supercharger site is 50 miles away. There are only 5 Supercharger sites in the entire state of Oklahoma, all located on I-40 and I-35, none on I-44, none at all on US or State highways anywhere in the state. So, unless you are an Interstate-only driver, there is no reason to get a Tesla if you live elsewhere. Tesla has not announced any new Supercharger sites in the state in the next few years, so nothing will change.

Don't know what's up with CCS charger in US, but here in Europe (Norway) that only have been a tiny problem on very remote changers where it takes some time to get repair personnel on site. And mostly only 50kW chargers, only once I experienced a broken 150kW charge. Can this be the government's money to support new chargers ? Obviously the charging network then is interested in putting up new charging sites to get that money and repair then comes second. Since Tesla here also uses CCS open to all cars most places I think at least here in Norway we have way too high charging capacity along the most used roads with only around 22% EVs (the rest diesel/gas)

my thing is replacing that windshield!!

If you would have moved to NJ since I have known you, which is just 2 years ago. You could have bought the Model X with the sales tax you would have saved. Connecticut should name a Rest Stop after you.

Would suggest you drive the Model S now- also a much better car than the early VIN versions. Bought a Plaid again 3 months ago and is much improved over the August 2021 production model I had.

I love the Model X and with recent price drops, its actually a steal now. All right , not exactly cheap, but with the $7500 tax credit and local and state incentives for many, its a no-brainer and Tesla does have the best, by far, charging network.

X marks the spot. Except you have a Bailey, not a Spot. The X just has too many things that can go wrong for my taste. I Love my 2023 Y LR, and expect to drive it forever -- the Y's simplicity, compared to the X's wins for me, even were the X and Y about the same price. BUT, I can't say that the X doesn't have a lot of things going for it, and since you seem to always be trading in for new cars or else loaning your cars to your progeny, I think it sounds like the absolute right car for you. Go for it, Dave!

Dave, now you’ve got me interested in trading blue model S for a red model X. If Porsche had NACS for Tesla DC fast charging, I think you would buy a Taycan.

That was a fast sale haha

I love my Y, but sure would like an X

I believe to expand its market share Tesla needs to tap in other market segments like the segment of Chevrolet Bolt EUV touted by Volvo EX30 on one hand, and large practical boxy SUVs like Rivian R1S, which Kia EV9 is tryinng to run by storm. In North America the pickup truck promised a while ago is overdue. Launching of a hot hatch Tesla Model 2 is still on the level of rumors. Most drivers in North America dismiss EVs like a nightmare and vow to stick to ICE as long as they can. If we look into what they drive daily then ideally in a 2 person household we might notice a larger vehicle like a minivan or better a full sized SUV for long trips and 2 more cars for commute which in suburban environment might be small hatchbacks. There is no way Tesla can penetrate those markets if it does not offer competing vehicles. I presume 2 hottest vehicles in those markets will be abovenamed Volvo and Kia EV9. Yet the market of pickup trucks is waiting to get more contestants. For the latter I believe Tesla wants a 800 V architecture to enter in full swing into the market share. For now I am in the camp of people not finding any use of jellybean cars offered by Tesla for now. A hot station wagon offered by NIO if proposed by Tesla might conquer me immediately.

What do people buy if they don't want a Tesla due to it's leader say or just find the car boring not to their liking particulary in the US mainly thanks to EA due to their lack of reliability in CCS charging?

I just know you bought one. Nice car. When i was at the Tesla showroom i thought the X was the best of the models. You are my favorite boomer.

get the red!

Why is no one mentioning how bad the vision sensors are? Took delivery of my model x and as soon as I took it home, told me to stop with 2+ feet in my garage. Took to service and now doesn’t tell me to stop 10 inches away. Now they are telling me it’s a software issue and nothing can be done. And the door only opening a few inches is super annoying. 91k otd and these issues is absurd. My model s with ultra sonic sensors is soooo easy to park.

I just don't trust the reliability of the Falcon Wing because of the maintenance issues. I'd stick with the Y or S

Hi Dave! If Ford didn't plan on switching to NACS for my Mach-e, I would have honestly trade it in for a model x!

Ultra red rocks

Gotta be careful saying that $7500 tax credit comes off the price of the vehicle. It doesn't, not in any sense. It's a credit that applies to your taxes that you file at the beginning of the year, and if you don't have $7500 worth of tax liability, you don't get the full $7500. You do NOT automatically get a $7500 discount off the price of the vehicle if you buy the $79,995 version. Otherwise, really enjoyed the video. That Ultra Red with the cream 5-seat interior is my dream Model X. Can't believe how far the price has come down, but for me it's still just out of reach.

Ordered my X last week, the current price - Fed Tax Credit - Colo Tax Credit is $12,500, No brainer! Trading in my Y.

I want to see the Hood in front of the car. I don’t do that on modell X.

Have you driven an EV6? The breaking and acceleration are smooth. I wish you would say 80k and not 79900. It's silly.

I have a Model 3 and took a Model X test drive. The road noise and lack of sound deadening is unacceptable for a 80K vehicle. The lack of front bumper camera and 360d camera is another

I love a Model X for you. I am looking forward to the Model 3+ in Ultra Red.

What cold temperature starts to really affect your mileage in an EV?

Dave test drive a 2023 Tesla Model S and your opinion on it

Yolk is nuts.

Well, Once I saw Ford and GM agree with NACS standard, I decided right then and there I would get my first Tesla vehicle, and I now have a model Y LR. There are tons of Tesla Supercharging stations around the US if I just look at the NAV window on my display and bring up charging stations. I do most my charging at home, but I feel confident the Tesla charging stations will be reliable should I do any trips. End of story. Bye!!!

Time for a Red X.

Lol did anyone think he would keep the lucid??

Why have a model 3 and X? Do you really need 3 Teslas for two people?

Don’t buy a X. Rent or borrow cars and have driving interviews with the people and owners. New American storytellers

isent a model X a bit owerkill ? or is it the want more then the need :)

Dave I do like the red but I think the 22s looked better on the car because when you looked at the plaid at the end of the video I liked that more with the 22s than the one that was in the showroom and also it will tow I think correct me if I'm wrong 5,000 lb. which means a plumber painter carpenter could tow a cargo trailer with all their tools in it and have a very nice car for the weekend, you're not considering the F-150 Lightning

I knew it. Best of luck with the new Model X