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Unveiling What World Rugby Wants Hidden: A Deep Dive into Andrew Brace 

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In the second part of our revealing referee analysis, we continue to pull back the curtain on the concerning state of rugby officiating, focusing this time on Andrew Brace's questionable interpretations of key rules during the intense South Africa vs Argentina match.
This in-depth analysis exposes a multitude of crucial errors committed by Brace that heavily swayed the dynamics and arguably determined the result of the game. Both South African and Argentinian fans were united in their disappointment with Brace's refereeing, and this video aims to dissect why.
Beginning with a breakdown of several incidents where offside players were left unpunished, we delve into the potential implications of such omissions. For instance, during an essential South African penalty 5m from a try, Brace, AR, and TMO overlooked the offside Argentinian players. Not only was this a missed penalty try and yellow card opportunity, but it was a direct contradiction to the official laws of the game.
Our focus then shifts to instances where Brace showed a profound misunderstanding of the "bound" and "not bound" rules. Drawing on the definition from World Rugby, we highlight instances where Argentinian players lost their bind at the ruck without consequence, questioning Brace's knowledge of these fundamental laws. We supplement this with a detailed exploration of South Africa's Eben Etzebeth's adept use of the laws to underscore Brace's inconsistencies.
In an alarming sequence of clips, we showcase how Brace's misinterpretations led to missed calls, obstructed gameplay, and unaddressed safety hazards. Instances of illegal tackles, incorrect offside rulings, and even potential obstructive behavior went unnoticed, raising doubts about Brace's aptitude for officiating at such a high level.
Contradictions in decision-making are also illuminated, such as the different outcomes of similar scenarios involving players playing the ball from the ground or teams going off their feet. The video also sheds light on instances of missed high tackles, an untraveled lineout, and the egregious overlooking of Argentinian penalties.
This video aims to heighten awareness about the inconsistencies and errors plaguing rugby officiating. By carefully examining specific incidents, we hope to contribute to the broader dialogue about the state of the game's officiating and its impact on the game we love so much. Through these discussions, our ultimate goal is to encourage and stimulate improvements in the standard of refereeing across the rugby world.
Just important to Note: This video did not include the Grant Williams charge down incident, as we covered that in Part on of our video. We discussed the incident regarding Argentina's fullback, Juan Cruz Mallia and what our thoughts were on the non-penalty.
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@tasanalytics
@tasanalytics Год назад
Here is Part 1 of the Video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--Qv2t0ux-js.html
@albertvanlingen7590
@albertvanlingen7590 Год назад
remember that the ref also has to decide if the action impacted the outcome of the result otherwise we wont have any game at all because the game wont flow at all and end up being 3 hours long....
@tasanalytics
@tasanalytics Год назад
@@albertvanlingen7590 Well considering his mistakes led to 3 tries, one of which is a penalty try and yellow, and then also missed 2 red cards. Not to mention having no idea what the laws are surrounding the bind at a ruck. I would say he screwed up big time because those infringements definitely had a massive impact on the game. I also don't buy this "The game will be too long" excuse. There's other sports that are way longer than rugby, and still have a bigger audience. A rugby fan, will watch his team play, whether that is for 30mins, an hour, 2 hours or even 3 hours. Fans will watch it. I think most fans would much rather watch a game that is longer, but has consistency with it's officiating and has less red cards than we currently have in our game. I would much rather watch a 3 hour 15v15 match, than a 80 min 14v15 game.
@jukeseyable
@jukeseyable 11 месяцев назад
great video, got yourself a sub @@tasanalytics
@HamishBanish
@HamishBanish 11 месяцев назад
This vid is awesome, thank you very much for the effort you put into it, no small accomplishment. Brace is Welsh-born but is an Irish RFU ref. He knows what his big boss wants, Alain Rolland, and whistles accordingly. All the senior refs look jealously at Nigel Owens' record, who carved out a career of placing "the flow of the game" over technical enforcement of the laws, and was rewarded with years of senior matches including RWC knockout games. NZ spotted that Owens preferred not to get overly technical and exploited his reffing style - even in public the NZRFU said "Nigel is our favourite ref" and won nearly all their games when he reffed. Brace has ambitions for more senior games, so he is following the Owens approach.
@juandegaray8578
@juandegaray8578 Год назад
I´m from argentina. Best video ever. You are on track on every single play. Brace was awful and WR laws are getting absurd.
@tasanalytics
@tasanalytics Год назад
Yep and World Rugby wants us to believe rugby is in a good state with its laws
@jamesnolan8531
@jamesnolan8531 Год назад
Bravo,signor.
@johansand572
@johansand572 Год назад
WR laws are getting absurd because of the excessive measures to "avoid" injuries. They are killing rugby. Regarding Brace I don't think he was that bad. Refs have a hard time trying to fulfill the large number of new rules from the WR
@TheOuboet
@TheOuboet Год назад
Don't be so hard on Brace. He just had to put down his guide dog.
@cliffcarelse466
@cliffcarelse466 Год назад
He is shockingly poor
@brucemack860
@brucemack860 Год назад
The blatant lying by Brace is an embarrassment to not only world rugby but to Brace as a competent ref. Appalling mate!!
@glen1482
@glen1482 Год назад
Please TAS, introduce a referee ranking system for the games that you review. Percentage based so that we can compare their performances. And also recognise a job well done when it happens
@BogartAus
@BogartAus Год назад
I think data to show calls, which refs and against which teams would be amazing. ChatGPT if had the data would show the issues in a heartbeat 😂
@tasanalytics
@tasanalytics Год назад
Working on something like that for the World Cup. As well as one for TMO's. For TMO's I can already guarantee you Marius Jonker will be in the lowest of low tiers.
@glen1482
@glen1482 Год назад
@@tasanalytics Fantastic... imagine such a list being publicised by the IRB... the best refs would then rise to the top instead of the likes of Andrew Brace
@Dickie2702
@Dickie2702 Год назад
​@tasanalytics Marius Plonker, simply a disgrace. Ruined so many games. How in God's name he is still trusted to officiate is beyond comprehension.
@phsycresconquest6636
@phsycresconquest6636 Год назад
@@tasanalyticshe was actually semi decent TMO at the RWC in Japan and was an outstanding on field ref but the lions series shattered his confidence in his TMO’ing and now it’s just sad to see.
@braindeadprawn
@braindeadprawn Год назад
You have grown so much as a channel. You used to get a lot of backlash because you were biased towards SA. I normally skip your videos. You took the criticism and got better, not many people do that. It's refreshing to see an objective analysis of the ref without bias. Well done.
@tasanalytics
@tasanalytics Год назад
To be fair, I've been called biased towards a lot of teams. The problem is when I make a video, the winning team's fans are always going to perceive it as me making an excuse for the losing team. I've even done these videos when my team won, like this case. Where Argentina should've won. Then they still find ways to make an argument that I'm biased. People think I'm attacking the winning team if I make these videos, which is false. I'm just trying to point out how bad officiating has gotten. We're not fixing it by simply ignoring it.
@commentwell3870
@commentwell3870 Год назад
@@tasanalytics absolutely!
@piquanta7
@piquanta7 Год назад
It's clear that once the players realise the ref is not blowing infringements they take more risks knowing they have a higher chance of getting away with it, and this degrades the game even further
@ynotnilknarf39
@ynotnilknarf39 Год назад
yup, over coaching of players with no punishments that are consistant. Blow up everytime, penalise teams out of games if need be, until coaches/players start to abide by the laws but still needs better engagement by refs and those training them (so they don't fear admitting mistakes or what they thought the saw) and laws rewritten because Union is sliding as a spectacle and becoming absolute dirge to watch.
@commentwell3870
@commentwell3870 Год назад
absolutely agree!
@christianfvivier1623
@christianfvivier1623 Год назад
Your videos are brilliant. I am a Primary school referee as well as a referee at our senior union. I am learning a lot of things from you as we do not learn these rules and laws in as much detail as your are explaining. Thank you for your content
@tasanalytics
@tasanalytics Год назад
It's great that you're seeing it as an opportunity to learn and instead of complaining about my videos as being offensive to you as a ref. You choose to rather see the educational value of it. It's why I appreciate refs like Ben O'Keeffe, he might not be the best but he is open about his mistakes and actually takes accountability. Same can't be said for refs like Andrew Brace. So good luck in your journey as ref. Hopefully my future videos also helps
@christianfvivier1623
@christianfvivier1623 Год назад
@@tasanalytics Its the only way a ref can improve by seeing your mistakes and then working on it and improving yourself. I am preparing for my game tomorrow and this video alone showed me of the finer details like the binding of the arm at a ruck that determines whether the ball is in and out. If every union could have someone like you that analysed the games and sit with the refs and show them their mistakes then the standard will be very high and the accountability will positively force regs to improve their games.
@wezvandez
@wezvandez Год назад
Please don't learn from these videos, you will only kill the games you referee by looking for meaningless shit.
@janhendrikdykman3262
@janhendrikdykman3262 Год назад
You can't blame brace alone. He had an inadequate assistant team as well who kept quiet and acted as if nothing happened.
@kirtap2601
@kirtap2601 Год назад
Rugby has become Referee’s Roulette! Well done World Rugby.
@garrameesta4889
@garrameesta4889 Год назад
Argentinian here. One thing bothered me during the first half of the game was the celerity to concede turnovers to SA players (specially Marx), and I mean one second, without hesitation. But then you can see several times ARG players on the ball looking for a turnover, and Brace like a blind dog.
@sylviagreybe672
@sylviagreybe672 Год назад
I LOVED this video! Very clear and informative. As a South African, I like that you also show when SA does things wrong or doesn't get penalised when they should, especially in a video showing referee errors. And I especially loved the clip of Eben's understanding and try against Harlequins. Well done, keep up the good work.
@orical2832
@orical2832 Год назад
Great videos, but I do wish you'd change the text box to a better more easily readable font with plain white in black background... Currently it's very hard to read on mobile devices.
@williambarbier8506
@williambarbier8506 Год назад
I think part of the solution lies in the possibility of the team captain to call for video referee once or twice a game, reconductible if He is right. This exists in other sports
@vikcent6047
@vikcent6047 Год назад
these refs are ruining rugby. The lack of awareness is absolutly unacceptable. Not only is it costing both teams points but it is making the game boring. Teams will be afraid to try things because they might get penalised for things they haven't done. For eg the tap in the beginning. Why woud teams go for a quick tap if they know the referee won't penalize the offside players. It cost SA a clear try but referee wasn't even bothered to check. Disgraceful to say the least
@tasanalytics
@tasanalytics Год назад
Yep, and then to lie afterwards to say you checked it when they never even looked at the defenders.
@nathan_power9263
@nathan_power9263 Год назад
@@tasanalyticshave you tried to actually referee in the heat of a moment, we understand big calls here can be costly for a team but you have 3 - 4 angles to watch it again and again. Yea TMO is a thing but if you wanted TMO to check everything we’d still be waiting for this game to finish.
@onskyk
@onskyk Год назад
@nathanpower. Fully agree with you mate. Most difficult job in the world. In fact, constant criticism will put younger people off becoming referrees. Fact, referrees will make errors. They have good games and bad games. I think the majority have good intentions.
@tasanalytics
@tasanalytics Год назад
That's funny you bring up refereeing in the "heat of the moment". Do we apply that same logic with players? Where if a ball carrier dips at the last second, and the defender has to "in the heat of the moment" change his tackling technique with no time to adjust. Last time I checked players still get cited. Yet, with referees we always find excuses of why they can make mistakes and why they're "human". But when we deal with players and coaches, we somehow don't use the same logic. We expect them to be perfect. It's simple, if a ref can't handle those big moments. Then he shouldn't ref. Stop making excuses for them. How many games must Andrew Brace ruin before people like you will hold him accountable?
@tasanalytics
@tasanalytics Год назад
Yeah players also have good intentions and some times slip up and still get punished. We expect them to perform and be perfect. It's time we apply those same standards to refs and World Rugby
@Noobkx
@Noobkx 11 месяцев назад
As an American who watches Rugby, and I'm fairly new to it, this is my first year watching, in the NFL we have a lot of refs on the field. Have WR ever explained why they don't (or won't) employ backfield refs? The first break down of the refs not doing their job looking at the AR players lined up offsides, to my American eye is the exact reason why they should have backfield refs. Anyways, love this channel, I have learned a lot of watching videos here the past couple of months, thanks for the hard work you do.
@koiselectsa
@koiselectsa Год назад
Well done, always impartial and to the point - reffing is so bad and inconsistent it's changing results now
@orynicolas
@orynicolas Год назад
I love your videos. They are very well put together, balanced and extremely informative. I would however think that you are sometimes a bit hard on the refs. The laws are so complex, the games go faster than ever. I remember Nigel Owens saying once that there are so many infringements to the law that it would kill the game to call all of them. They have to make some choices on what foul play to call or not. I agree with you though that consistency is the key. Anyway, keep on the good work. Cheers
@d-dog7671
@d-dog7671 Год назад
I don’t know who you are but someone needs to pay you more for what you do😮. Not only are you pricise in these calls but you’re treating both teams with the same tolerance and respect.👏
@Gilescowdemdem
@Gilescowdemdem Год назад
Maybe you have but I wish you'd do videos about excellent ref performances to contrast these kind of videos as well so people can recognise when it's done right.
@glen1482
@glen1482 Год назад
Yes, with a ranking system that delivers a percentage based on all correct vs incorrect decisions. That will sort the men from the idiots ruining the game
@thobelandlebe4634
@thobelandlebe4634 Год назад
This way we get the opportunity to appreciate the good refs as well. People like Nigel Owens who were hailed, rightly in my mind, as being the very best.
@Gilescowdemdem
@Gilescowdemdem Год назад
@@glen1482 now this would be interesting. Love the idea.
@Gilescowdemdem
@Gilescowdemdem Год назад
@@thobelandlebe4634 yep, Nigel is a legend. Wayne Barnes is a very close 2nd imo
@marctison
@marctison Год назад
This somehow gets sorted out at the WC tournament, but it slumps between WC's. Ref's need to receive a performance bonus for good referring that is separate to their match fee and is based on this kind of post-video analysis by a panel of retired ref, where they get a rating. If they fall below a particular benchmark., then they get nothing.
@robhughes645
@robhughes645 Год назад
Uh, France vs NZ semi final and the hero of England Wayne Barnes anyone? lol
@michaeldeancoetzee9993
@michaeldeancoetzee9993 Год назад
Appreciate the effort you put into your videos. Always unbiased and show clear evidence. In reality, nobody can see all of this in real time and make the right calls every time. All we can hope for is better performance from the referees in the future as we will never have completely flawless calls. There is just so many things happening simultaneously and quickly to see everything. You have to watch the game multiple times to notice all the errors. There have been many dodgy calls from referees over the years, which still burdens my mind,but have to respect There interpretation of the rules on the day. They are human. If we continue to put so much pressure on them we will have a shortage of referees as it such a demanding job. Nobody will be willing to go through it due to the pressures that come with it. Enjoy your videos and keep up the good work
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb
@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb Год назад
They can there is 3 refs and a TV ref... They can see it
@jamesm9995
@jamesm9995 Год назад
The videos are excellent, but certainly not unbiased.
@tasanalytics
@tasanalytics Год назад
Tell me, where was I biased?
@commentwell3870
@commentwell3870 Год назад
This is a lame excuse. Taking out bias, within the first 30 seconds Brace did not follow ANY protocols wrt the hit on Williams. He had the benefit of replays. Protocols: Head shot: In ALL cases it's red first, then mitigated down to yellow if there are mitigating circumstances. He went through NONE of the protocols. At the top level, all these protocols are drilled into the refs. In heavens name you tell me how he could have overlooked all of them.
@robhughes645
@robhughes645 Год назад
@@jamesm9995 nonsense, he shows the errors from both sides and refs mistakes. How is that unbiased? Perhaps you don't understand the word, or the game.
@BaneLoki
@BaneLoki Год назад
They need to add a captain TMO request… give them 3 challenges to the refs decision per match
@Wagenmeister
@Wagenmeister Год назад
I agree in a way, if it will make a diffirence I dont know, some TV Ref decisions have been utterly wild these days.
@glen1482
@glen1482 Год назад
That is an excellent idea, with a review retained if you are correct. It will certainly weed out some of the crap that is being dished out.
@putamadreSTFU
@putamadreSTFU Год назад
Cricket gets it right. We do need such a system for Rugby.
@tasanalytics
@tasanalytics Год назад
NFL also has it where the coach has 2 challenges. Rugby is always 10 years behind other sports
@tasanalytics
@tasanalytics Год назад
But that is also a fair point, TMO's are not exactly the best at the moment with Marius Jonker being an obvious example as to why that would backfire
@Silenttarget
@Silenttarget Год назад
I agree with almost 100% evrything you posted. No consistency. But the last call on Faf, you showed us a long section of being bound with the shoulders as the rule states, but look agaim at that scrum, AR 8 clearly left his bimd before Faf played him, therefore the ball was out and Faf was allowed to play it. But the rest is great stuff. It openes up the game for everyone to see. Not being bias is a great way to show the refs where they can improve. At the end all we fans want is a good fair game for both teams on the pitch.
@raphaelrenaudie9319
@raphaelrenaudie9319 Год назад
Thanks for the high quality and simpleto understand analysises in every viedo. Just wondering who you think is the most consistent and/or "rulebook" ref at the moment.
@hugh.johnston
@hugh.johnston Год назад
Love your content. Please do the 2nd Bledisloe game if you want time. Thought the referee was extremely inconsistent to both sides.
@commentwell3870
@commentwell3870 Год назад
agreed about the ref in the Bledisloe...
@eubo383
@eubo383 Год назад
As usual... Informative and straight facts with the evidence... Lot of lessons here
@rmr3403
@rmr3403 Год назад
You know the Pumas 15 was suspended in 2020 for a reckless head high tackle on end of year tour? Second offense and why is WR hiding this ?
@alistairclifton1286
@alistairclifton1286 Год назад
2 fucking weeks
@sambrink87
@sambrink87 Год назад
he has had 4 suspensions, he averages 1 a year, and the last three have been for in the air incidents
@sambrink87
@sambrink87 Год назад
@@alistairclifton1286 he has had 4 suspensions, he averages 1 a year, and the last three have been for in the air incidents
@craigharrison9828
@craigharrison9828 Год назад
I would like to compliment the team members who put this detailed analysis together. It show cases that refs do not always get it right and as a result cost teams games. Hopefully the respective refs are watching these fantastic educational videos and learn from their costly mistakes.
@indricotherium4802
@indricotherium4802 Год назад
One wonders whether the 4th official nods off for most of the game. At times they intervene for the finest of margin calls and yet they let all these blatant contraventions pass as if they don't matter.
@mitchellmcintyre5035
@mitchellmcintyre5035 Год назад
Andrew Brace had a shocker
@subashsewchuran3709
@subashsewchuran3709 Год назад
One game being a shocker is acceptable but this guy has had many shockers. Worse still is that he does not improve because World Rugby doesn't hold him accountable when he messes up.
@IlseLamoer
@IlseLamoer Год назад
​@@subashsewchuran3709And even worse, they are allowing him to actually take part in the WC this year. Those teams are going to have super hectic games just because of this guy
@subashsewchuran3709
@subashsewchuran3709 Год назад
@@IlseLamoer The thought of that is incredibly frustrating.
@jksinorbit
@jksinorbit Год назад
Seriously what we need is considerably less rules... it's not possible for the players or the ref to get every call right
@fsydon6215
@fsydon6215 Год назад
But there needs to be a concerted effort by all the refs including the tmo to make the right calls. The reason refs are so biased against SA is due to Rassie and his video bringing their horrendous refereeing into question. The winner seems to always be the All blacks constantly being overlooked of their misdemeanors.
@user-fg4xb4uf9i
@user-fg4xb4uf9i Год назад
hello good evening i am french and i love your video thanks you for your works and your time
@Alias-gy3tz
@Alias-gy3tz Год назад
Make this video go viral! This man, like Bruce Lawrence, should not be refereeing at school level, let alone international level.
@johannblignaut1966
@johannblignaut1966 Год назад
Its actually Bryce.Will never forget that performance. 9:10
@casperkruger8840
@casperkruger8840 10 месяцев назад
Just want to ask, firstly I completely agree with the no arms on 4:07 penalty .. but what would be a good choice for defense in that situation ? With a player going low when going for a try line how would the defense need to counter it legally ?
@dangriff12
@dangriff12 Год назад
Super awkward for Kolbe too as the tackle on him was really good but where else exactly was he supposed to put his arms. It's because he's a foot shorter.
@francoisbezuidenhout4638
@francoisbezuidenhout4638 Год назад
The tackler knows he is a foot shorter too and should compensate for that....
@andresdeks
@andresdeks Год назад
The tribunal found the Argie player guilty and a two week ban, it should have been a red card. Nothing happens to the ref. What if this was a world cup final and the ref cost a team the win?
@IlseLamoer
@IlseLamoer Год назад
The worst part is, he's actually going to be part of the WC. Just gotta hope and pray he doesn't ref for semi's or final game because that would be a frikken disaster
@mattgthor
@mattgthor Год назад
Id love to see your take on a match without South Africa playing. Perhaps bledisloe 2 tomorrow?
@thobelandlebe4634
@thobelandlebe4634 Год назад
I have seen him do a few matches where no SA franchise plays in as well as no Springboks. It was only after I saw those videos that I began to appreciate his impartiality. I know how we can be as Saffas sometimes but I guess he is striving for, at the very least, consistency from the refs. Rugby laws are too cumbersome to apply to the letter. If however the ref is consistent in his application thereof throughout the match, most can stomach it.
@argeurasia
@argeurasia Год назад
I just checked quickly on google and you can't play quickly a penalty within 10 meters. Is this right?
@Ozee316
@Ozee316 Год назад
Realistically that line offside was the touch judges or TMOs responsibility. You cannot expect the referee to have seen it.
@jameslynch2611
@jameslynch2611 Год назад
Which referee in your opinion do you rate highest of all the tier 1 referees? And who do you rate lowest? Base it on everything - Competence - Consistency - Integrity - Treatment and approach to players - Relationship with TMO - Honesty and owning up to errors - Any other factor I haven’t listed Thank you
@Stanza-si9br
@Stanza-si9br 9 месяцев назад
Can’t wait for your video on the shocking calls by Wayne Barnes!!!🇿🇦🇳🇿
@GregO0oo
@GregO0oo Год назад
Not even the assistant ref on the sideline caught any of the offside players...😭
@peterweston189
@peterweston189 Год назад
First of all, there's a lot going on in a game of rugby. 30 players. There are times when both teams are committing offences. I don't think it's easy to referee such a technical game. It's always frustrated me that a game can be decided by the referee's opinion and interpretation of the rules. What is the answer? Would it help to have a smaller number of refs for internationals? Who are the good referees?
@IlseLamoer
@IlseLamoer Год назад
There's never only 1 ref, and this video clearly shows how refs are looking straight at players or TMOs are rewatching plays and STILL not making the right call. How can you have a player knocked out cold in front of you and allow the game to continue??? Being a ref was never this complicated in the past. It's damn laziness and incompetence. Brace cost both teams several points last week.
@peterweston189
@peterweston189 Год назад
@@IlseLamoer clearly the referees are paid to keep up with all the rules. Issues of injury and health should be first priority. How you referee them, applying the rules and using common sense. I have a feeling that games are going to be affected by pivotal decisions. I hope players are given a yellow and someone is able to assess if it is a yellow or a red. Maybe clear yellow is a yellow. Might be a red a yellow and a warning it is being assessed.
@83aceman
@83aceman Год назад
Awesome videos, I have learnt so much. Keep it up.
@jimmyneutron4158
@jimmyneutron4158 Год назад
Be careful because this TAS is getting a lot of these call wrong, so don’t want to be learning the wrong stuff.
@karlosdeevs
@karlosdeevs Год назад
@@jimmyneutron4158me neither
@barryoffeastenders
@barryoffeastenders Год назад
This isn’t just on the ref though. The touch judges should be picking up offsides etc as well
@MegaTkls
@MegaTkls Год назад
Exactly. They can’t even see basic offsides or forward passes sometimes
@MegaTkls
@MegaTkls Год назад
Mustang sally!!!!!!
@commentwell3870
@commentwell3870 Год назад
Uh uhm. Wayne Barnes was one of the TJ's. He is supposed to be the top ref in world rugby now that Nigel Owens has retired. Scary.
@karlosdeevs
@karlosdeevs Год назад
@@commentwell3870*Wayne Barnes. Stuart Barnes is an analyst & pundit
@commentwell3870
@commentwell3870 Год назад
@@karlosdeevs ha hah of course but you knew what I meant did you not?
@phsycresconquest6636
@phsycresconquest6636 Год назад
11:07 id argue he’s bracing so that he doesn’t get planted. His front foot stays planted and he doesn’t move from his position, merely moving into a position that doesn’t end up with himself and the Argentine in the floor just behind a ruck which would be very dangerous for all involved. And then at 12:39 after watching it multiple times in slow mo I came to the conclusion that it’s a 70:30 backwards as it looks like the first bounce goes backwards as well as the ball drop and being slightly backwards but you could rule that one either way. And then finally for the line out challenge where he misses the ball and hits the arm that’s another very iffy either way call. Other than this you have it spot on for the most part. Unfortunately as all the old hands are retiring we are left with the current crop who make old Bryce Lawrence look competent.
@janhbhugo5085
@janhbhugo5085 Год назад
Hope we can have a fair ref this coming game ! Brace must never ref school rugby because he'll ruin the game !
@btcdunks8476
@btcdunks8476 Год назад
I though I was taking crazy pills when i watched the game live. I saw the exact same penalties, give or take. Thanks!. One thing: didn't you hear MR Brace telling no hands or leave it 3 times on different rucks to Marx ? Great objective work.
@tasanalytics
@tasanalytics Год назад
You are correct, there were multiple rucks where that happened where the ball is already slowed down, after the ref screams for Marx to release it. But the reason I did not include it, was because there was also multiple times where Arg did the same thing, I think it was Matera who also slowed the ball down and the ref gives him way too long. So at least he was consistent and allowed both teams to slow it down, although I agree with you that he probably gave them way to long to release. But good catch by you, I definitely noticed it as well.
@btcdunks8476
@btcdunks8476 Год назад
@@tasanalytics Great point, if it was consistent to both sides then fair enough.
@commentwell3870
@commentwell3870 Год назад
I think there was no consistency by the ref at the rucks in the morning's 3rd Bledisloe. At times guys could lie and sunbathe on the wrong side of the ruck and he would not blow. He favoured one particular side wrt that. You go and check it out yourself...
@luxologanca3205
@luxologanca3205 Год назад
we cant have this officiating in the WC for any team
@yourihostein4350
@yourihostein4350 Год назад
En france ça fait 30 ans que les arbitres anglo-saxons nous volent pas mal de match Brace Joubert Barnes Pearce en sont les grands artisans
@ThatV12MiataBruh
@ThatV12MiataBruh Год назад
At 09:58 it appears as though the ARG player collects and plays the ball from an offside position due to lazy running.
@tasanalytics
@tasanalytics Год назад
It would've been offside if an Arg player played it before he picked it up. But if you look closely, SA 20 plays it on the ground, which is illegal. And because he played it and there was no ruck, there are no offside lines. So the Arg player was legally able to play it
@ThatV12MiataBruh
@ThatV12MiataBruh Год назад
@@tasanalytics good point and excellent analysis
@Dickie2702
@Dickie2702 Год назад
Great video. Whats the solution? With even the very best refs a few things will get missed in every game.
@dalenewton9697
@dalenewton9697 11 месяцев назад
'Inconsistency' on a rugby pitch is where bias and corruption hideout when there's nowhere else left to go.
@MrOrange187
@MrOrange187 Год назад
I think World Rugby hates that the style and speed of play are so different between the hemispheres...
@brendaandalistairhunter9593
The ref will decide who is the winner of the world cup.
@dangriff12
@dangriff12 Год назад
I never fully understood the binding law. I thought it just had to be your hand attached to the shirt didn't realise your arm had to physically hold them. Pretty clear the ref didn't understand the law.
@JHBred
@JHBred Год назад
The problem is that the ref isn't watching the game in ultra slow motion.
@tasanalytics
@tasanalytics Год назад
Mate, 99% of these incidents I see in real time and make notes. Heck, these were all from notes I made during the game as I watched it at the stadium. So don't use that as an excuse. In some cases you are correct. But there were a ton of them where he was in front of the infringement.
@JHBred
@JHBred Год назад
So from the stand, you can pick out what the ref is looking at ? You sit in the stand making notes ? I genuinely feel sorry for you.
@TheBlackJersey
@TheBlackJersey Год назад
@@JHBred😂🙌
@tasanalytics
@tasanalytics Год назад
Who said it was in the stands? And of course I take notes. Why wouldn't I? I Always rewatch games to go back to my notes to confirm what I saw. When you're doing analysis you make notes as the game goes. Same as I do when I coach. The notes I make helps me a lot. So not sure why that is so weird to you, as most analysts make notes during a game.
@JHBred
@JHBred Год назад
Apologies. When you said you "watched it at the stadium", I assumed you were at the game. You give the distinct impression that the only reason you watch games is to find fault with the ref. Maybe you had a bad experience with ref in the past.
@mypath4healthyliving533
@mypath4healthyliving533 Год назад
Knowing a point is not the same as acting upon that point. knowing and doing are two different things Andrew Brace.
@thecuttingsark5094
@thecuttingsark5094 Год назад
They should make the ruck more contest able. IE, a player off his feet is deemed not a part of the ruck, therefore, the ball will be ‘out’ more often. Also, the 9 should not be a protected species, why do the laws not apply to him? Is he Dan Carter? The result is more players committed to the ruck which equals more space to attack.
@bosoerjadi2838
@bosoerjadi2838 Год назад
I agree with your analysis that this was horrible ref-ing. But to me the refs' quality is like the weather: both teams suffer from it and adapt accordingly during the game trying to exploit it in their own favour. It has to be addressed but only for the sake of the game itself, but in the end the teams do not care, only those fans who're truly passionate for the game do.
@nerdyali4154
@nerdyali4154 Год назад
Of course the teams care. They need to take advantage of every single opportunity in a tight match and they can't be in a position where they don't know if they are going to give away a penalty or even get carded by going for the ball in a way that is supposedly legal. If the ref is inconsistent then they are basically playing roulette at every ruck and maul.
@turquoiseopalfruit
@turquoiseopalfruit 10 месяцев назад
Not only the refs, but what are the officials behind the screens doing? Twiddling their thumbs, sitting back eating a biscuit? When people watching from their sofa can spot errors. Poor all round.
@jordanbaard3232
@jordanbaard3232 Год назад
These videos give alot of insight into the refs and how the games could have gone. I think its wrong when a ref is not being consistent with his calls and just causing absolute mayhem in the game for each of the teams playing. I mean look at how many times eben went to the ref to explain the rules about binding that the ref clearly did not understand 1 bit
@x2y3a1j5
@x2y3a1j5 9 месяцев назад
Argie here, rugby fan but no rugby expert, so pardon my naivety/stupidity: Could it be possible that most of these bad referees' decisions (all of the referees, not just Andrew Brace) stem from "letting players play and do not interrupt the game so often"? It's also very easy to watch everything at slow speed and in a large screen from our sofas, but being on the field and having to make split-seconds decisions is very difficult. Imagine a World Cup game or a 6N or a 4N game where the referee is calling every. single. infringement. Wouldn't we all be whining about how come that evil referee ruined the game? So let's be honest here: YES, some referees need to take refreshers courses and be shown when and how they made the wrong calls, etc. BUT, we're all human beings bc we're not perfect like the robots. Errors WILL happen in every single match and are part of the game. It's no different from when out teams wrongfully decide to go for a LO and try to score a try rather than taking a kick with 3 points. Now, being biased is a very different thing, here we're talking just about mistakes, not biases.
@fxgas012
@fxgas012 Год назад
09:54 Johnny Sexton catching a wild stray there😭😭😭
@christopherjamesnaude3548
@christopherjamesnaude3548 Год назад
Brace was shocking again last night as an AR! This really isn't for him, or is it?
@fertrymana.k.a.djmistas8892
Para nosotros los Argentinos, estamos acostumbrados a estos referee. Nuestros capitanes no saben hablar o defender en idioma inglés y siempre pagamos con partidos que perdemos por estas causas. Lamentable, y cuando los árbitros son conocidos y llaman por su nombre a los capitanes de los equipos de idioma inglés, es peor para Los pumas o Argentina. Tu punto de vista es excelente defendiendo sobre todo al Rugby.
@tasanalytics
@tasanalytics Год назад
I agree with this, I want to make a video about this. With the angles I get from the games where you have the ref's mic. You will be amazed about how badly South American teams are treated, simply because they don't understand English as good as other nations. I saw this in the Argentina vs New Zealand game, where Angus Gardner was the ref. The whole game he speaks to NZ makes jokes and have nice conversations. When Argentina's captain comes to talk about a penalty or anything, he gives him a short explanation. He also made no attempt to conversate with them, and to explain decisions. I have a big issue with that, especially with refs going out of their way to speak French when France plays a game, yet other nations don't get that treatment. Rugby should be reffed in one language at international level, and both captains should be treated the same.
@MegaTkls
@MegaTkls Год назад
Yes it is a tough job reffing at the top level, though, they need to be held accountable and dropped like players if necessary. Was SA only given the Kolbe forearm leniency? Was that the only one?
@CWO244
@CWO244 11 месяцев назад
The biggest problem in rugby is not the ref's but the rules. No human can keep up with all the rules at the speed rugby is played. Make it safe and simple
@jptheron3039
@jptheron3039 Год назад
Absolutely disgraceful by Andrew Brace, and I've just watched the first part so long. If this is not "bringing the game of rugby into disrepute", then I don't know what is. Incompetence is one thing, blatant lying is another.
@simpslayer7839
@simpslayer7839 Год назад
The TMO was Nika Amashukekli
@jason13daniels
@jason13daniels Год назад
I'm a Bok supporter. So I'm happy about the win. However, the Ref lost this game for Argentina. Why are the TMOs not getting involved as they should? Poor performance by Andrew Brace!
@munga1111
@munga1111 Год назад
Irish RFU producing quality officials, as always.
@gnicollanos
@gnicollanos 10 месяцев назад
Great analysis, the video editing is outstanding. We have seen this happening over and over. I wish it doesnt happen again vs Wales next Saturday. The match ref is not reliable.
@nataliocorradini
@nataliocorradini Год назад
At 10:44 it is clear that the actual intent is to hit the head with his elbow, that Arg player is the tallest one for f sake! He even jumped into him!! That is red as it can be!!
@mikeyraad568
@mikeyraad568 Год назад
So he's also making rules up as he goes along. Sorry, I'm commenting and watching at the same time 😊😅
@planetcurly5343
@planetcurly5343 Год назад
Incompetent officiating lies solely at the door of world rugby. By silencing anyone who speaks out against refs that are clearly out of their depth, and allowing such inconsistencies, just really says it all about WR's intentions. I think the winner of RWC has already been decided and all that is left to do is to ensure that the ref and his ARs execute the plan. It wouldn't surprise me if Brace refs the final.
@ynotnilknarf39
@ynotnilknarf39 Год назад
This highlights the ludicrousness of the laws in union and how overtly complex its become. The propensity for decisions of the refs to be wrong and/or incidents missed increases. That said, some of these are ridiculous. Despite rugby league being faster, there's less to observe and fewer technical infringements that can be marginal, though the way officating has gone (for both cods) it puts too much onus on refs. If a player is doing something wrong, stop telling them to not do it, just penalise them until they change. That way offending teams get penalised out of games for transgressions, coaches/players would soon learn they can't get away with it but the current mothd of 'coaching' players by the refs is enabling more cheating/law bending and you can't check everything
@jaanc8047
@jaanc8047 Год назад
Realistically, how many more eyes / assistant refs are needed to catch all these fouls? Surely the organizers could afford four more refs?
@kr1tical41
@kr1tical41 Год назад
I sometimes feel like TASanalytics is bias towards SA but I enjoy it when they point out our bullshit too 😂 enjoy the videos and whole heartedly agree that this is unacceptable at this level …
@tasanalytics
@tasanalytics Год назад
I've been called biased towards so many teams now, I've lost count.
@kr1tical41
@kr1tical41 Год назад
@@tasanalytics no hate intended mate love the vids and keep em coming 😎
@douglaswright2143
@douglaswright2143 Год назад
If all of these were picked up, we would slowly move from set piece to set piece
@tasanalytics
@tasanalytics Год назад
So instead of holding refs accountable and fixing some of the stupid laws like the foul play and the red card process, let's pretend rugby is in a good state and the laws are amazing. I'm sure that's a great way to bring in new fans as well. Just keep making the laws harder to understand.
@peterweston189
@peterweston189 Год назад
@@tasanalytics I appreciate your videos. Your knowledge of the actual rules is way above mine. The rule about binding at a ruck is easy enough to follow, but there is a lot going on. Safety issues are the most important and common sense is a valuable commodity as well. Oh and consistent application of the rules
@rickblomerus696
@rickblomerus696 11 месяцев назад
It seems that players have to play according to the ref and not the rules. There are far to many rules with grey areas. Understanding that rules are put in place to ensure fairness, safety and have the game flowing. Can you blane the ref or the rules. Only if you yourself have reffed a game do you know it is NOT easy. Simplify the rules.
@2esquared
@2esquared Год назад
Less laws, and less cómplicated laws means fewer ways various referees can "interpret" a law, HOPEFULLY resulting in less uncertainty and less unhappiness. In my humble opinion stupid laws like the tackler having to "roll away" almost instantaneously, the opposing line jumper not being allowed to make contact with his opponent, this stupid "whole arm or not whole arm binding" nonsense, an attacking player not being allowed to put his arm/s out to prevent his opponents from tackling him- why should a runner make it easy for his opponents to tackle him?! Ridiculous! And although not illegal according to rugby rules my personal bugbear- the #9 footy rolling, rolling, rolling the ball to under his last player's feet, puts his foot on the ball, looks at his flyhalf "John, fix your hair", "Peter, pull up your socks man, you look dishevelled", "James (winger) I'm not gonna pass this one to you", "Okay guys, you all ready?", then only picks up the ball, and kicks the fucking thing away!!(Yeah- Faf de Klerk). I know professional rugby is played by big heavy men running very fast and head contact can result in a concussion, but today's "contact to the head- red card", nevermind how minor or unintended without malice is just crazy stupid and over the top. RUGBY IS KILLING ITSELF.
@gysgijsbers4202
@gysgijsbers4202 Год назад
Too many laws, it needs to be simplified. Too many conflicting laws too.
@janhbhugo5085
@janhbhugo5085 Год назад
Well done world rugby ! He belongs to you !
@jamesmeldrum
@jamesmeldrum 11 месяцев назад
Referees are hard wired to favour the so called bigger teams it’s clearly an unspoken rule from the authorities
@Natedawg38
@Natedawg38 Год назад
I rate nika incredibly higher than brace. Hes v good at player safety
@JJ-li3lk
@JJ-li3lk Год назад
They don't call WR a union for nothing.
@raydups4068
@raydups4068 Год назад
Brace cannot refer the RWC..he doesn't know the rules and his linesman and TMR are clueless....
@JDR_ZA
@JDR_ZA Год назад
Allow players to go upstairs for crying out loud. I.e. similar to tennis and cricket reviews.
@johnpollock7952
@johnpollock7952 11 месяцев назад
Some of your videos are good, but you kick the arse out it a bit to make a longer video and it undermines the rest of it.
@THEMRblackboy7thst
@THEMRblackboy7thst Год назад
i think it is pretty well established that Andrew brace is a disgrace of a referee. Every. Single. Time.
@user-fz7yp3xk6w
@user-fz7yp3xk6w Год назад
Agree this was a Shitshow in reffing Ref and Line Refs was appaling.Hope WorldCup is better BUT Tasanalytics in regards to rule9.1.1 Tomás Lavanini 130kg ,2.01m was not stretchered of by getting knocked the fuck out and then being hospitalised and not knowing if he will make it to the worldcup.Tomás Lavanini also showed no signs of being injured infact , Tomás used a bad technique of tackling.I like your video's but compare Apples with Apples.
@seanharmse2893
@seanharmse2893 11 месяцев назад
Ok, so why do you say "Unveiling What World Rugby Wants Hidden"
@islandjazz2240
@islandjazz2240 11 месяцев назад
You're too fucking smart - go ref the games bro!
@turquoiseopalfruit
@turquoiseopalfruit 10 месяцев назад
Not only the refs, but what are the officials behind the screens doing? Twiddling their thumbs, sitting back eating a biscuit? When people watching from their sofa can spot errors. Poor all round.
@cole-kevinnorman9158
@cole-kevinnorman9158 Год назад
There is technology avaliable on every single fucking level cricket tennis use it weekly and the calls are over turned so we get the correct decision one way or another the players can call on something to be checked within resion but in one game 10 calls or more can be wrong world rugby will pretend it never happend no one can call the reff out on anything then you band or suspended so there is actually no accountability for the bad calls they make and the players must just go ok and move on with the game this world cut will be determined by bad calls and teams not suffering again just like Southafrica have in the past. Argentina have come a long way and if they stay disciplined could beat anyone on the day.
@pierre-3253
@pierre-3253 Год назад
THIS tell's me but one thing, regardless what is said of SA, this is proof of hidden agendas against teams, and ref's is point blank proving it in their actions, to the players faces. Question, WHAT is done about THIS??, NOTHING. WHY, cause more than one ref has ALREADY proven that they are UNTOUCHABLE, which is blatant arrogance and a form of disrespect for the sport. WHAT has been done about this to adress it??, NOTHING It seem no one in the industry is ready to put this to table to put an end to it. This is gonna become like a pressure cooker, till something goes wrong, and in some cases already has, then blame is placed on players, instead of the ref and his team at the time. We ALL know that ANY given rule OR regulation is SUPPOSE to be translated and applied in the SAME manner, but ALL too often this has NOT proven to be the case. MY suggestion, JUS like there is 2 referral opportunities in cricket, THIS ought to be put to trial in rugby, UNBIASED and FAIR both ways In MORE ways than one, i'm sorry to say, but i have lost ALL trust and respect for ref's, as they give the industry a bad name by POOR ambassadorship
@robhughes645
@robhughes645 Год назад
I don't think it's the rules that are that complicated, I honestly think some of these refs are completely incompetent and that the video ref should be the final say in any play. Refs will makes mistakes on the field, the game is fast and they can't see everything but there are so many issues in every game that I'll only watch the WC as it's once every 4 years. Rugby is alienating its current supporters and is not a game I encouraged my son to play, even though it was the only sport I played seriously as a youngster. The video ref was introduced to get rid of bad calls but if the ref on the field is still the 'boss' then this has no real value. It's a mess.
@merlenespies8061
@merlenespies8061 11 месяцев назад
Referees should be ranked according to teams. Top refs with Top teams.
@SimonGhostRileyTF141
@SimonGhostRileyTF141 11 месяцев назад
It shouldn't be a yellow card for an offside tackle, if it's a quick tap. To many yellows these days and its destroyed the game
@joseruiters5121
@joseruiters5121 Год назад
The problem lies with the ref
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