He did make a tweet claiming he was excited to work with Acal and gonna save country rap and make it better and the cgi cows is a reference to "end of the world" with the cgi farm and tornado...and has done a couple of mainstream interviews with cnn and fox
Best coverage and breakdown ive seen yet! Kinda expect that round here though 😊 great reaction skin. And as a fan of both artists, I cant wait to see what happens. Both can bring humor and insane pen almost effortlessly. Interestingly enough, this is the first time Church ever started a diss. If you look through his history, he has always rebutted. If tom doesnt reply.. im pretty sure Church will just drop another and another at Tom until he does
I can’t wait to see Tom’s response, if tom has another “chris Benoit” in him there will be nothing ryan can do…. But if he doesn’t, it’s anybodys game!
@@MAWGReacts I feel like he'll need 2 or 3 benoit lines with church. He is weirdly efficient and effortless with his diss tracks. I really want to see more of toms battle skills. No Response straight at one person... That could be a brutal situation
@@MAWGReactsWhen Upchurch says something that hasn’t been said, Maybe Tom will put time in. But until then, No Response answer every diss in this. He said the same shit Mac Lethal said 5 years ago. Tom is from Canada✔️ Tom wear’s flamboyant clothes✔️ Tom looks like a woman✔️ Tom has braids✔️ Tom is a plant✔️ Tom click bait✔️ Did Mac Lethal ghost write Upchurch’s diss???
Church has been on some wild stuff lately. Making videos on “secret ancient language” saying Nashville was a second Egypt and Egypt was owned by Rome. Making weird videos about lightbulbs...strange way to get attention but whatever. So far as his beef with Tom. He put a video on ig about Toms song the system when Tom and Adam were promoting the brave 2 calling it demonic and calling Tom a tourist. He put a video on RU-vid with a clip from this house calling Tom a Satanist. He’s upset about the song with John Rich, saying they were making fun of country folk. That tweet he’s butthurt about also was a joke. Tom put that out when he was surprised that one of his songs made country charts. Tom has always mixed genres (Church makes music in different genres too) Tom has never claimed to live a country lifestyle(not since he was a kid) Church is on this kick about whose more country. He’s been taking shots at Struggle and Jelly too. The only one he hasn’t turned on yet is Adam. I won’t be too surprised if that happens too. Feel bad for him really, but he lost my respect along time ago. The rodney family stuff...beefing with his parents on line.... just to name two things.
Tom signed contracts with the daily wire, and he did videos with Dax who is owned by the record labels. Tom is in the system, sorry about your hero boys and girls
Tom has 100% said he was going to come into country rap and make it better. He has also tried to spt coutnry ish bars on the Brave 1 and 2. B&W on B2 hes talking a bunch of country bs saying hes wearing Nascar hat, etc.
And? You do realize Tom was raised in Alberta? It's known as the Texas of the North. Go listen to his song from 8 years ago, called Number 7. Tom may live in CA now, but he was raised in the country. Ryan doesn't own or have the monopoly on Country Rap. That's the same as saying Ryan shouldn't do Rock. It's silly. A true artist experiments with different genres of music. It's called growth.
I remember what Tom said in "I Hate Hip-Hop." "I'm not country rap, I don't play guitar, I don't drive a truck I don't chew tobacco, get the Chevy stuck in ten feet of mud." Just stay in your lane, Tom. You're just trying to get in on the Country Rap money-grab.
@Loyal2you He also said he doesn't do pop or backpack rap, yet he's done both. A true artist experiments with different genres/styles. It's like saying a painter shouldn't try sculpting. 🙄 Have you ever heard a rock artist tell Ryan to 'stay in his country rap lane' when he's done rock tracks? NO - because it's stupid for one artist to tell another artist what they can and can not do. Are you going to tell Acal or Jelly to stay out of Country? Ryan is just scared Tom will do a better job than him. He's obviously also jealous Tom collabed with John Rich and is about to drop their 2nd track very soon.
@Raineydazed I don't see anything to be jealous of. It's just a matter of time before all you HOG riders choke on your words and get sick of the dudes bs and see how fake he is.
@Raineydazed I think Ryan's beef is that Tom mocks country people while simultaneously making bank off those same people. Also, Ryan never said he was going to "save" rock music and "make it better."
South Wyd posted a upchurch short that Upchurch is waiting for the response. Upchurch he will go back to back on Tom until he responds but also said he'll give Tom MacDonald respect if he responds back but until then he'll put dis tracks out..... Explains why he is dissing Tom
I doubt Tom will clap back. Tom has said that he would not do another dis track. He did not feel good about the Mac Lethal battle when it was over. Watching some of Church's lives, I feel he is struggling with some mental health issues. He has spoken publicly about how him and Tom are friends. Maybe there is some jealousy over him and Adam working together since they were always tight. As far as Tom saying he would do country music, if you go way back before Dream People and the Whisky Wars, he had an album named Therapy. It had a country vibe to it. As we know, Thomas likes to switch lanes on us. He also has another one coming up with John Rich. If it were to happen, it would definitely be epic.
Church been cooking this up for a while, but the timing of the drop was smart on his part. Tom is busy promoting the last song(which in my opinion was a beautiful troll) Church will drop at least one more diss track on Tom before he gets any kind of response. It’s a good bait track but there’s nothing behind it, especially since Tom has never said anything disrespectful about Church and Church publicly was supportive of Tom until Tom and Adam started making albums together. Adam maintains that he’s friends with both of them. The bit about shows and the covid mask...Church played one of Tom’s songs at one of shows a year or two back and teased them doing a show together, but it never happened. The mask...when covid hit Tom and Nova locked down tight because of her health issues.
He did disrespect upchurch by claiming he could make the country rap genre better, then made a video with cgi cows with a country artist (Tom Rich). Subliminally poking fun at people from the south (tinfoil hat doomsdayers). Oh, he done effed up. This has nothing to do with making music with Adam and everything to do with TM being a hypocrital poser grifting off of something Ryan has a lot of respect for.
@@saddletramp5000 I am from the south. Nothing insulting to country folks in any of those songs. If anything I find a lot of what Church does more insulting because he claims to represent Tennessee while doing the ignorant stuff he’s been doing.
@@saddletramp5000 so far as making music with Adam, if you wanna talk subliminal...Church was taking shots at the American flags video with the jumping on the tank line. Adam was right beside him going just as hard. Adam has said he was going to save country music and it took a city boy to do it. It’s nothing new to see him have a double standard though.
@@dirkwoody5969 So "end of the world" perfectly and respectfully describes what southern folks are like? How about in "Black and White" when he claims he wears Nascar hats? He's all about that life then, is he? He's laughing at us and you don't even see it. I have a feeling ACal finally does though (and they won't be working together ever again).
@@dirkwoody5969 After putting some thought into what I just read, really? You're ashamed of Ryan Upchurch? A guy that came from nothing and built himself a successful career and a name in music doing what he loves. Giving back to his community and helping other local artists realize their dreams? Ya, I can see why you'd think he is an embarrassment 🤦♀️ And as far as Adam being next to him, so what? Adam didn't have creative direction in that video. That's all him and Nova. Read the credits. ACal did his contractual part as a featured artist and showed up for a video. But Adam has also lived the life he raps/sings about. Ryan knows that. Ryan also knows that Adam is a proud gun owner and doesn't just pretend to be one. That's the difference.
they were never friends, and upchurch put tom on 1 song they knew each other, pretty sure tom did not even actually meet for the collab either, the recording sounds different on his verse, after that song tom started using upchurches tags in his seo on songs he had nothing to do with Pulling Creeksquad to his music.
Personally its clout. Upchurch is popular, but not NEARLY as popular as Tom. Everyone thinks upchurch wouldnt go for the big bucks, but thats horseshit. Thats the main driver for all these artists.
Ryan Upchurch has boo coos of gold albums and several platinum INDEPENDENT without promoting his music Facts don't care about your feelings 😂😂 CREEKSQUAD 🍄💕
@@lashell8041 which is why hes butt hurt Tom flew past him so easily. Numbers dont lie friend. I got nothing against upchurch at all, but this is obviously a money game here. I was just making a statement. I couldnt even care less whos bigger. Im just stating Facts with a side of an obvious hypothysis. He knows he can latch onto the virality and make bank off it. It is what it is. Clout.
Bullshit. I live 20 mins from Church. Family lives down the street from him and see him out weekly. He is real. Genuine. Humble. Happy. Church doesn't need clout. Just shows the ignorance of people who dont know the man.
Ryan needs help, he is outta control. I just can't do this or be part of Ryan's destructive behavior right now. He has lost me. The world needed them to come together and Ryan is to head strong to do that.
Church whole thing is twisting words and taking things out of context because it will hit if you don’t know better. I don’t see the fence sitting meaning much. He isn’t Republicans or Democrat...so what.
Hahaha!! Upchurch triggered!! Upchurch, let us know when you have the number 1 Rap song in the U.S.. Ohh wait, make that the number 1 Rap song in the WORLD.!!! Hahaha so funny!!
I don't think Tom will respond. He said the Mac Lethal battle made him feel horrible, so he'd never do it again. He doesn't like wasting his energy on negativity and diss tracks put him in a dark place mentally. I respect that. Besides, he's too busy doing big things at the moment with his #1 with Shapiro and a soon to be released second collab with John Rich. Tom is busy building an empire with Nova while Ryan is playing with lightbulbs 😂 This diss isn't even worth his time as it was mostly just recycled lines from Single White Female by Mac Lethal ie his braids and the HOG tattoo about dxcks. Tom even dissed himself better in I'm Corny imo. This just sounded childish with no substance.
@CreativeNoize 👈🐓 rider. I know you've got to Holler for your boy, or he'll take your music down again and hurt your pockets. HOG don't fault you for that. But for someone like you who claims to be a Christian and all about positivity, you sure don't act like it if you think diss tracks are good for either artist. ✌️ Please get your boy off the Adderall. 🙏 Before it's too late.
Tom isn’t country rap. Calhoun is and isn’t depending on the pocket he wants to sit in... Chicago and the outskirts is where he’s coming at things from. Mesus isn’t....but all these guys get labeled country or Maga depending on which song it is. Mesus also gets labeled Christian rap...that’s because he’s a rapper who is openly Christian.
This is just Ryan clout chasing Tom has pulled 10 million views in 5 day while Ryan can’t pull 600k in 12 days 😂and if Tom responds it would be like Gordon Ramsey responding to someone flipping burgers at Burger King
It could be…. Without knowing the context behind this, I don’t want to make any claims of that until I see the facts and come to that conclusion. I want to call balls and strikes fair on both sides for this one.
@foshizzle31 No because Tom is his own person. Tom is literally doing his own thing. Upchurch always has beef with someone. It just looks petty. I like Churchs music but this just brings division. Sad really
Ryan didnt put words in toms mouth. Tom tweeted he was gonna save or make country rap better. He had no business speaking on the genre that Church owns. So Church is calling him out for it.
I stand corrected than. Fair game…. I’ll have to go look for the tweet so I can see the context because that seems like such a foolish thing for tom to say.
I’ve heard other upchurch disses…. This is definitely a soft bait track. Like I said, he’s just jabbing in this one, nothing crazy really, nothing super disrespectful.
.. hope he doesn't respond. Thing is, tom has been dissed for years, always by hacks or nobodies. Sooo..why respond now to...yet another hack? Whats the point? Tom should record a 2 min video expressing concern with a link to his Church video or Sober. Church doesn't seem stable these days.
Church is way more versatile than Tom....And this aint even Church going off yet.........Tom has one lane, Anti establishment.......... I suggest you go back in Churchs catalogue and re educate yourself before saying ridiculous statements like that.
Keep in mind when I’m saying he’s on toms level I was referring to size of fandom and popularity. Both these guys have millions of fans and both fanbases have a lot of overlap with each other. One may have more musical accolades than the other, but both these guys are titans in their respective lanes. Essentially this isn’t a Grizzy Hendrix situation was the point I was trying to make.
Trying to jump on the next wave. He wore out this wave, TM is going to try to go to next wave ,country music. Ryan is calling him out because he is fake . TM knows how to use people and sell you a story. Watch I hate hip hop...he is a contradiction.
Your comment is no less trash. I like both, but I gotta say that Church trying for this while Tom is promoting his vid with Shapiro just sounds like Church is chasing and trying to ride Tom and Ben’s D. He should’ve waited a week or two for this Shapiro video to calm down and he wouldn’t look desperate.