*Updated* PVC project, Larger drum for HF dual drum rock tumbler...clean reloading brass! 

You don't have to explain or apologize for your first video. Most of us heard what you said and took your word for it.

Your original video was one that encouraged me to make the leap into wet tumbling and I still find your 9mm case dose of LemiShine perfect. I'm not sure it was laziness as much as lack of time or tools, but I ended up getting the Lyman tumbler on sale. Thousands and thousands of cases later I still can't believe what a tremendous job this does on brass... even some incredibly cruddy stuff from the range. Thanks again for your all your vids.

Thank you for the update! Actually planning to head to Billings next week and pick one up…Really appreciate you taking the time to produce these…thank you….have a great week from Montana

I really like this setup. Cost effective and does the job pretty damn well.

I built one of these following the directions here two years ago. I have run thousands of pieces of brass through this thing. It works great and is still going today.

Made mine yesterday day, I tried the small PVC inside to help with the tumble, but mine came off. So today I went to Home Depot and picked up some self-adhesive rubber weather strips that are about 1/2” wide. Sanded the inside the. I placed 8 of them about 3/4” apart and they worked great and they are still adhered to the inside!! Thanks for the vids!!!

I followed most of your instructions which worked ok. To create an agitator, I used a 3” Pvc pipe on the inside. I cut three 1” sections which I attached with PVC cement with the curved side facing the middle. Fits snug and does a good job.

Watched your first one a little while ago. I was only surprised that the hot glue worked. I use hot glue more often than I should and it always tries to come loose eventually. When I do your customization eventually I will try the Gorilla glue. I was going to use epoxy but that sounds simpler. Thanks for taking time to redo something to make it better. And yeah, I couldn't believe all the comments about it not turning... you said it did right in the video, but you know, youtube...

With results like that I call it a win

I tried it and it exceeded my expectations. The only complaint I have is the Harbor Freight tumbler is not that well built. The bearings on the rods got stiff after about an hour of tumbling and I had to lubricate them to get them going again. In hindsight, all you need is a slow RPM motor to turn the drum, like an ice cream maker. Bottom line, I highly recommend this method of brass cleaning.

Apparently, the aluminum caps for my drums grew legs and ran off! I need to make one of these. Thanks for sharing this video.

I might have to make one of these .

Great idea JH586 made me one and it works great

I made myself, Jesse B Utdoors and Willie Bulletman one. I used the half inch pie for tumblers and used the cleaner/glue method. I have another one with n agitators in it I plan to use for powder coating. Thanks for a great idea.

JH586 made me one of these and I love it 👍🇺🇸

After I watched your original video I found a frankford arsenal tumbler for $109 and said heck it, was lazy and just bought it. I kinda wish I went with the harbor freight because its like 2 in one. You have your custom big bin or if you want to clean 40 and 45 cases at the same time, you can put them in separate bins. I’ll probably get a hf cleaner when I upgrade my bench. Thanks for all the videos!

They make Sch10 and Sch20 pvc which is a much thinner wall thus more volume but you can’t use inside fittings.

Thanks for posting. I'm looking to upgrade from my dry tumbler, and I'm always looking to save a few bucks. Your solution looks like a "Win-Win", the smaller containers for small batches or pistol brass, the PVC one for bigger jobs. And Gorilla Glue is great stuff, but don't get it on your fingers or they will end up stained and you just have to wait for it to eventually wear off. (DAMHIK)

Getting a 4" clear round disk from TAP also works, and is great for a viewing port, easily shows how clean or dirty your brass is mid cycle. Gorilla glue does the job.

I enjoyed this video, and my Frankford Arsenal wet tumbler was a great addition for brass cleaning. I used the steel pins only once because they were more trouble than they were worth when it came time to cleanup. The Lemi shine works well but to much and your brass will have a dull gold appearance. Your tumbler does the exact same thing but a lot less $$$

Very cool, I grabbed the single tumbler and so far it does great job with steel pins, teaspoon arm n hammer oxy laundry and hot water 30-45 mins, might upgrade to double but I don't have a huge quantity to worry about

I've dry tumbled for 15 years using the same Frankford Arsenal tumbler and when it finally gives up the ghost I've thought about going to wet tumbling but there are a couple of things I don't like about it. Size is one but the HF tumbler seems to be sized about right for my needs and the price is right. Drying the brass is another. I'm not about to use the "out in the sun" method and I'm not keen on the oven method. I don't have the space to just lay them out and let them air dry in the garage so I'd like to know what method you use. The dedicated case dryers appear to work well but that's another expense. The other thing that I'm not sure about is how to dispose of the dirty water afterwards. I think most people just dump it down the drain and I do have a utility tub in my laundry room but I'm a little hesitant about that disposal method. How do you dispose of yours? Thank you.

I've been using a cap full of automobile car wash/wax liquid with a bit of lemishine...seems to leave a very light wax coat which aids in sizing and maybe appearance.

That PVC is called “cellcore” it is cellular core pvc coated. Sch80 and Sch40 pvc are also labeled DWV by manufacturers, just FYI.

You purchase 4" PVC without the inner core so that you can use PVC solvent to adhere the tumbler strips inside with no problem.

Before Franklin Arsenal released their tumbler there was Rebel 17, it was expensive but was done right and I jumped on that bandwagon. Ironically my uncle replaced the bushings in my HF tumbler with ball bearings at same time but I no longer needed, so it's sitting collecting dust but this idea is really cool, I've seen the first video. I was thinking of making my own thinner expanding plug with having a lathe it shouldn't be hard, just need a thick o-ring to squeeze.

As far as gluing the interrupters... There is no better super glue than Starbond! It comes in thin, medium, and thick and can be had on Amazon. Keep it in the fridge after opening and it will stay liquid for years! Another little trick if you need to fill a crack or hole is to put the super glue in and sprinkle some baking soda on it. This will make the glue dry instantly and hard as a rock! I snapped a crown off last year and used that trick and it stayed put for 6 months!

Good update !! Did you have some post production problems, pal ?

Where do you get the stainless steel pins and what size? Great video by the way.

Im going to use a rubber liner sleeve in mine, been thinking about it.

I made one of these a couple months ago thanks for making the vid and the tips. The original HF drums were getting pretty beat so followed your instructions from the first vid but skipped the hot glue and went JB Weld epoxy. The epoxy only lasted three sessions before the speed bumps came off. I think i'll take your advice here and go Gorilla glue, as other than the speed bumps working free it works better than the original HF drums

What length are your 1/2 inch pvc agitators?

What if you spray the outside with some sprayable rubber coating on the outside? To help with traction?

Use a squirt of Dawn and a tablespoon of white vinegar and you'll never miss the lemi shine or the pins. Don't use too much vinegar and keep it on contact with the brass for too long but an hour or so won't hurt anything and you don't have little pins all over the place. Try it once and you won't go back.

Try using J B weld.

where do i buy the knock out plug and what is it called?

If you like the gorilla glue for that you ought to try the gorilla adhesive spray on your hair. It'll have you saying "BAD, BAD IDEA" In no time.

TreeTopFlier, can you build one of these for me if I pay you an agreed upon price?

Those two barrel tumblers (and the singles as well) (from harbor F or lortone or anyone elses name) have two things wrong One the belts are low quality rubber and counter intuitively the belt is too THICK! it makes it difficult for the belt to bend around the small pully Two the FATAL flaw - plastic "bearings" the smallest grain of grit gets in there and things no longer go around. The Fix - the motor is fine, the shafts and pulleys are fine. Build a new or modify the current frame with real, sealed ball bearings and use a good belt (say from an old cassette recorder) My machine can run 1-12 pound drum, 2-6 pound drums and 2-4 pound drums from that same motor and I have never changed the belts in 5 years