$5000 is a lot of money for a bike, and $3000 is a lot of money on upgrades... but does it make the bike any faster? What do you guys think? A good way to spend your money, or should you stick to an old faithful affordable rim brake bike? 🤔
@@spartanbike2260 Yeah, it would have been good to swap one compoennt at a time and record the individual savings... but, modern bikes are just so hard to work on. Changing a handlebar is a multi-hour job, it's just not practical. I reckon the position change is 75% of the aero savings... maybe more!
Great video. Glad you pointed out the negatives too. $3000 for 1.2kg weight savings = $2.50 per GRAM. ,no judgement here - we all spend our money in different ways Where were you riding where the road was TOTALLY smooth and clean with RED pavement and no auto traffic? It looked as smooth as a velodrome!
Good summary and actually informative content Joe, thanks for doing this. It's a shame that some guys comments here are just false. But hey humans ;-)....got to shrug your shoulders and laugh it off.
I thought social media disinformation was for important stuff like elections... didn't realise it would trickle down to people making videos about bikes, lol.
Nice to see a real weight with everything on it!! Most do not that, people don't realize bikes are not as light with everything on it without spending 10k plus! Take a $15,000 dollar bike at your local shop and put Dure pedals, 2 cages, GPS mount. Everyday ridable for someone that weighs over 160 lbs.
I can't stop laughing at the burger T-shirt. Please sell this Tee in your merch store. Also love the 'fur' winter panda hat you gave to Trace Velo. You have the funnest merch.
@ChinaCycling thanks for sharing this video and also your insight about those upgrades. I do have a few questions, if you don't mind me asking. 1. For the Maxxis High Road SL, it shows in the packaging 170 tpi. What does that mean in terms of tire protection and longevity? Does it have compare with Continental's Gatorskin? 2. I am quite impressed how the integrated/1 piece dropbar & stem from Farsports. Will this work if my frame is still using external cabling? 3. Did went through a bike fit session before testing the Polygon Helios? It would be great to see, if you also do a similar comparison of a full Chinese brand bike with the Polygon Helios. Thanks again for sharing this kind of content.
Thanks for the pros and cons descriptions. KEEP DOING THAT!!! If the major aero gains are from your position, it seems like a separate bar and stem (at different stem lengths) would be ideal for consumers to purchase. Do you have a modern bar (36mm hoods and 40mm drops... or something like that) that is not a 1 piece bar/stem? Added bonus if it has a full run channel on the underside where I can put the cables in without having to mess with undoing the brake lines. Even if this setup is 100 grams heavier, at least we the consumers could experiment with different stem lengths for dialling in our aero fit on the bike. If this was an option, I'd buy like 3 different stem lengths to see just how aero I could get. A lighter cassette that doesn't shift well is not an upgrade... if the Shimano hyperglide patient has expired (it's an old patent, so it is very possible it expired)... then these Chineses cassettes need to start copying that design (just not the hyperglide "+" design that is definitely still under patent) that way we can have light cheap cassettes that shift really well. If this is the case, do you know of any for sale? Would be cool if you could get polygon to let you sell their frameset (not the complete bike). I think if they sold their frameset for like $1200 USD, they would sell VERY well. Again thanks for the great video.
If he was riding mostly upright then did the new test mostly in aero position, it's very easy to get to these numbers. Also he's tiny, so on the flat no way he's riding at 40kmh, so the "real world" difference for him would make more sense at 30-35, presumably, so that's probably 10w less or so. But either way, position is everything on the flat.
an aero position you can't maintain because of discomfort vs comfortably, probs what he takes into account. But sure as a pure test for 10s or whatever, no it does not pass the smell test
I did all testing in my "all day fast hoods" position. Tbe position you see in the vertical video of me riding. Arms slightly bent, elbows in. But the difference between the two bars is a massive difference in (sustainable) position.
My cervelo s5 with crw 5060 , ultegra di2 with elilee crankset with xcadey pm is 6.9 kg , from this vid the only thing i cannot upgrade to save more weight is the handlebar 😂
Or you could put a top tier groupset on that top tier frame Cervelo boy Nothing screams rookie or bullshit like a guy with a bike like that and and bargain group. Come on man that’s lame.
I'm not changing my drive train if I had Dura-ace. For the rest of the components, those are some great options. I hope during your tests you didn't compare a Sphynx position on the new components to the regular hood position on the older components.
@@ChinaCycling Great! I'm surprised about the big jump in performance, but for a light guy like yourself, the weight of the bike is an important factor compared to a heavier rider. The wheels + tires + tubes are the second or first important factor.
I really want to get some CRW6575 wheels to go along with my 303FC's. But what's holding me back is not knowing whether or not I will have to adjust the disc caliper every time I swap wheelsets.
Anecdotal; but when I did the CRW vs Roval testing, I could swap wheels without touching the brake calipers. I think you can also buy small shims for disc rotors to get all your wheels running fine...
Those craft wheels look sick but im slightly worried about durability of those spokes, do they come with any spare ones? Are standard bearings used in them?
Bearings are standard size. No spare spokes included, because if you have a big enough crash to break a spoke, you'll probably need more than just 1 spoke.
Hey Joe, I'm looking to build a mega-light climbing bike for the steep hills here in the UK so want to use my MTB 3x chainset so I can have a 22x32 bottom gear and 44x11 top gear. To get the front mech low enough, it seems you need a clamp-on style which only fits round seat tubes. So, do any light carbon frames exist nowadays with this? They all look like they have braze-ons to me?
@@matkrek Only if you're willing to put up with a MTB cassette with huge jumps between gears. I can't get to a 22x32 gear on a standard road BCD anyway, so no.
I would be curious to find out if these upgrades would be able to handle over 1200 watt sprints ? Are these lightweight parts for little people that don't put out real wattages ? Slava Ukrayini 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
The people complaining about shilling because a dude who runs an online store is using parts that he sells. When was the last time you saw any business advertising competitors products? Hambini must be a shill too because he uses Hambini bottom brackets in his videos. The stupid is real
