When the Texas power grid failed a few winters back I was smart enough to have a Harbor Freight Predator 8750 already wired into my home. We used it the entire time Texas had no power and lived as normal as I usually would have. The drawback was the fuel it used during those 7 days. When we were warned the storm was coming I was smart enough to fill up 55 gallon drums of gas that got us through. Yes it was expensive at the time but after hearing how some people froze to death I never have regretted it.
What.....Texas power FAILED to provide power for SEVEN DAYS??? I remember that power failure event, it was in the news here in metro Los Angeles but anyways man, maybe you should move out of Texas?
@@alals6794 I don't think there was much(if any) seven days consecutive outage but as I remember reading they could last a hours or a day or two, and of course it varied depending on the local grid and consumption. But the outages came and went in a series of successions. Which of course is BAD enough, especially in a poorly insulated house. @PracticalEngineering has a nice video on what went down.
Live in Texas , The electric was out for 6 days straight during that time. Texas is just not prepared for cold does not get that cold here very often.@@slitor
Good video despite the improper terminology. Those batteries do not hold 3500 watts, they hold 3500 watt-hours. Also important to note, they each have a power output of 3000 watts, so they can not power all those items listed at the same time. For example a microwave uses 1100 watts. So while you could power several things at a time so long as all together they draw less than the 3000 watts, if you were to be pulling 3000 watts all at once the battery would be depleted in just over an hour. These are good batteries, but they are a little more expensive than the EcoFlow Delta Pro. The EcoFlow batteries are cheaper for slightly more storage capacity and they are the same LFP battery chemistry that can do 3k+ cycles.
Exactly! "For 99% of the people, your system will run everything that you own?".. Um. All plugged in at the same time? With the fridge running, washing machine running, furnace or window AC units running, chest freezer, lights and TV all on? They may run, but certainly not for long. Let's say the power goes out for 48 hours. The Mango Power website says one unit will power a refrigerator for 2.6 hours. Okay, so let's say you have two units. that's 5.2 hours. So, you only have the fridge plugged in and it will drain all your batteries in 5.2 hours. No lights, no washer, no TVs, nothing else being plugged in while running the fridge. It will take at least an hour to charge each. How does that even come close to powering the devices you listed, if the power goes out, for even 20% of the day? What he is really saying is those units will power the devices you listed for a limited use amount of time. Plugging and unplugging devics as needed. He's not running your fridge all day long along with the air conditioner, space heater or furnace, and his TV and microwave...all working as if he had regular power. He may be able to keep LED lights working for the entire 48 hour period but when you start plugging in the power hungry devices, you are sucking those batteries dry. He should be making that clear in this video and that you need to be doing power load management when using these devices and explain what all that entails. The video is misleading for people who have no idea how these things work.
👍thank you I hope he is getting better understanding in house hold there's running may lot electrical equipment at the same time. You explain very well thank you😊😉👍
@@williadw1955 Bit of a sourpuss, aren't you? No matter how big a solar-system I had I wouldn't be plugging in massive fridges on principle. WTF are fridges actually NEEDed for? Keep the bottle of milk cold although you'll use it up in less than a day, and you KNOW it won't go off IF left OUT of the fridge?? Stupid! I have a 42-litre Engel (two, but only use one) which runs on 32 Watts at the highest setting, and is easily efficient enough to switch off at night. ie. it only uses 32W for, at most, 10 hours a day WHILE THE SOLAR PANELS ARE FEEDING IT POWER. Incidentally, at my rate of usage my battery-bank will supply my needs for about SIX DAYS (never mind a miserly 48 hours) without any input charge. BUT WAIT! I FORGOT! My solar system produces power EVERY ONE OF THOSE DAYS. And that power hasn't ever gone off for ANY "let's say 20% of the day." That power-source hasn't failed ONCE in FOUR BILLION YEARS. (Even right now, with some fairly serious cloud-cover, my system is feeding my batteries at 14.8 volts; and the bank is full. But of course Old Sol isn't owned and operated by Mango Power. And finally, I can't but point YOU out as one of the "people who have no idea how these things work."
I have a 44 footer sailboat, I have 4 , 340 w solar panels, 48 volts each one, cost $200, 48 volts. 48 v, controller cost, $150. 6 batteries 120 amps each, $120. A 4000 watts Inverter $400, total including wires $2,000. Works everything im my boat, 10.000 btu ac, 50 amps battery charger, refrigerator, freezer , microwave, laptop. Now I'll put a 1000 watts wind generator , I'll have more than I need.$3,000 total. Completely offgrid, green power for years.
You should invest in lithium ion batteries as they can be used up around 90% then recharged. Regular batteries don't even come close. Use more than 30% of it and limit the life of the batteries overall. Also a $400 inverter is going to break, guaranteed. Get 2 pure sine wave inverters and keep one as backup.
Iv been thinking a direct drive electric pontoon boat, may be 3k of panels. I have extra 10 pannels at 340w...make a small super capacitor pack for equalization on semi cloudy days... like i did with my 24v well system. Maybe make a small battery pack for on board amenities with a back up DC generator. then simply ancker at nights. I am currently semi off grid. I use grid power to charge when 300amp lifepo4s are on low light winter days Of course I only use 25% of the power of a new house. This is the Key 🔑 to affordable off grid. Stupid tax is the amenities that most people "think" they HAVE to have. I digress... I've been looking for a good 56v DC generator. But iv not found a Solid build yet... If anybody knows of good DIY on this please let me know.
I know somebody up here that has two car alternators running his hole house . One in the crik on a prop and one on the roof . & 1 dc to ac converter . No batterys . Was a interesting set up . Under 400.00 .
I live in a 120square foot tiny home in an Island here in the Philipines and power sometimes goes out when you need it. My work is online so availability of power is crucial. I have a 12V system with 3units 200 Watts solar a 150AH lead acid battery. During day time I'm using the solar system for 1 laptops w a monitor using a small car inverter and electric fan and lights are 12 DC. As long as it's not stormy i can do my work. Dring the night I'm using AC form the laptops and electric fan( I have 1 AC fan ans the other is DC). I'm plaaning to get a 12V freezer next.
Watts is instantaneous power. Watt- hours is energy (like the KWHr the electric meter measures.). 3500 Watt-hrs can be 3500 W for an hour or 350 W for 10 hours or any combination of Watts times hours that equals 3500.
250 watt used pannels from solar fields only cost 30 bucks each. You can live comfortable on just solar then use your batteries for night use. Santan solar has thousands of them.
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The information in this video is so helpful. Thank you very much for sharing and blessing our lives with your knowledge.
What's up with those prices. I have just installed 12kw grid tied inverter with 15kw panels, and 20kw LiFePo3 batteries 6000cycles at 95% for a total of 20k USD installed by a professional contractor.
Well, when the SHTF and there's no grid power for months, you will not have a way to recharge these types of generators... Get a few solar panels you can hook up to recharge them. My whole house is powered by solar panels and a bank of 12VDC LIFepo4 that I did myself that didn't cost me a whole lot, under $10.000. I also have a couple of the portable generators he advertises here that I can hook up to solar panels that are portable. Make sure the generators you purchase are LIFEo4 and can do pass-through charging. 🇺🇸
In the 1970's my dad purchased an old early 1930's-40's wind turbine from an old farmer for $150. He replaced the motor with a rewound aircraft generator motor and added a battery bank of 100 12volt batteries with an AC/DC converter as back up power. We also had solar panels, and a parabolic solar collector, which followed the sun's path all day. Also in 1975, February issue of Popular Science magazine, they did an article on a homemade electric car my 17 year old brother, Jeff Ricks built.
Your family was way ahead of the game. What are your thoughts on Hydrogen generation for home use, for now, but possible automobile fuels source in the near future?
@@thomaspower221 Hydrogen? Possible but not likely. As an observer of the world's evolution my primary consideration would be (always WAS!) self-reliance: non-reliance on ANYthing that can be controlled by others. Particularly 'authorities'. Solar-power is a no-brainer, as is hydraulic energy if one has access to a small creek/etc. The weak-spot is the battery-bank, but even that (lack of commercial batteries) can be got around with a bit of stuffing around.
@@johnnyllooddte3415 Yes and no. Though the 'price' has gone up, I'd guess that the RELATIVE 'value' would be about the same, or even fallen a bit. (Except for lithium: a trendy product I wouldn't go anywhere for reasons other than price.) But I've learned that there ARE cheaper ways of getting a battery-bank together if you keep your eyes open and your imagination active. All the best.
Grid down is well and good for the short term, but if the grid stays down you must generate and store your excess power. If the grid is down for any real length of time, do not power your lights, or if you must, keep them blacked out and invisible. If the Fed is allowed to institute Central Bank Digital Currency, the grid will be the least of our worries. Cashless is digital SLAVERY!
4-5 years ago, one of my neighbors bought a brand new, complete off-grid solar system for less than $5000 : 240V, 6.5kWh Capacity | 3kW Output | 700W panels (4.2kWh daily average), using deep cycle lead-acid batteries like the ones used in forklifts. This is comparable to a system between your "package #3", and "package #4", but with a "free" set of solar panels, all for $200-$1200 less than the "Mango" product. The system still operates well today. These days, you can find used solar (PV) panels for a fraction of the cost. Typically those panels lose 0.5% efficiency per year, so a 10 year old panel still delivers about 95% of its original out-of-the-box conversion levels. I've seen 110W panels (10yo) offered for less than $15, (there are probably cheaper ones), so a system based on those panels could cost even less if you don't mind an extra panel on your roof, (e.g.- 7 instead of 6 in my neighbor's case, for about $100 TOTAL). Now THAT'S a "Save $1,000's!!!" type of system, that'll give you a solution for power outages, AND save you money on your electric bill... and if you want to cover all your bases, use the savings to buy a charger that will charge your batteries straight from the grid on days with low sunlight.
You are maybe better lucky in Usa more wider roofs you have.Here in Uk tipical roof can accept from 8 to 12 solar panels about size of 400w ones have usually and that is it.But it is enough for some not hungry ones😀
@samanthanicholson9015 I'd definitely read your user agreement, contract. If you absolutely need grid power, Justus very little of it. Build your off grid system for the majority of your power needs. Leave grid power to a wall clock or something verg small other know you still use their power.
2 years ago, my dad purchased an old early 1930's-40's wind turbine from an old farmer for $150. He replaced the motor with a rewound aircraft generator motor and added a battery bank of 100 12volt batteries with an AC/DC converter as back up power. We also had solar panels, and a parabolic solar collector, which followed the sun's path all day. Also in 1975, February issue of Popular Science magazine, they did an article on a homemade electric car my 17 year old brother, Jeff Ricks built.
i bought used panels and built my own battery. this is the only way the math makes sense to me. sure the tax payer can help pay for a percentage of my system but i probably would have paid top dollar for brand new equipment. i had fun building mine and leaned a great deal. in the summer i run my heat pumps from it, as long as the sun is shinning. i have about 4kw of panels, and 50kwh of battery. i will be breaking even much sooner than most, i dont remember how long but maybe in 4 years from install i will break even, but it was about more than money to me, it was being able ro make my own power, learn something new, for the fun of it, save money and help others along the way.
If I paid $90,000 for a solar system with back up, I better be 100% off grid with enough replacement panels, batteries, spare inverters, amps, and charge controllers to replace everything at least twice. That’s insane
Insane indeed. As is the very idea of entertaining such a prospect. First of all adjust your usage. Next: prices: Panel between 10cents and 40 cents per Watt. Batteries: UNDER $3 per ah. ONE inverter ( about 500 Watts is all you need: or none at all if you're happy to run your house-electrics on Direct Current*) about $300. Regulators (charge-controllers) available for about $15 per 20-amp or up to 100-amp for about $25. I don't know what you mean by "amps". Amperes are a measure of power NOT a piece of equipment. Nor do I understand why one would want "replacement" equipment. After 40-odd years I've never had to replace ANYTHING, apart from a solar-panel broken by a horse!, and batteries which DO have a lifespan, depending on how you treat them. I've come to expect 6 years out of recycled/second-hand L/A batteries. (and used the expired ones as building components. eg replace the acid with water and used them to build a north-facing HEAT-ABSORBING wall for a greenhouse. (the possibilities are limited only by one's imagination. * perfectly feasible in this day and age: Many of your electrical equipment (eg your computer) runs on DC which has been reduced from 240 AC (here in Oz.) You'd need slightly heavier cabling, but well worth considering.
PLEASE build a faraday cage and place any spare electronic parts inside. i have done this because of the many electrical and EMP sources that can easily wreck havoc on all electrical and Eprom based electrical circuits. this goes for everyone out there. being cold hungry and in the dark is no fun . as i have found it is not what we think will harm us it is what does harm us that comes from the unknown and does thoroughly and completely. be safe out there.
Couldn't agree more. My first (overdone) system cost me $1200 in 1980. More recently I've been putting up systems for some local Oldies for about $300 all-up excluding labour costs (which I don't charge.) A lot of these oldies are paying more for their 'connection-charges' per month than for the power they use.
This is our second K-Classic. We had our first one for many years, so when we had to replace it, we wanted nothing else but this exact ru-vid.comUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf model. We use it for about three people everyday in the morning. The taste and quick brew is one of the reasons we like it so much. There are so many choices of brands of coffee that we would grab what was on sale and test the different brands from there. I would definitely recommend trying different brands of coffee to find the ones you like the most because there are brands that quite frankly taste horrible.
I WON'T be buying the Mango Power Station. I was really hyped about it from this video and we even went to your website looking at the diff options. BUT my husband said, "Let's watch some reviews on it." So that's what we did. We've now watched TWO review videos where NEITHER of the reviewers were able to connect to the app because they COULD NOT register their station. That's HUGE since it's the app that controls MOST of what you can do with the station(s). MANGO POWER: GET A CLUE!!!! Just set up your app to ACCEPT ANY NUMBER!!!! Shesh! Do you really think anyone will use your app that doesn't have one?? Whatever!! This is SOOOOOO frustrating. Not only that, you make it impossible for someone to operate the device w/all its capabilities w/o the app. That's crazy! I won't be spending $10K for something that backwards. No thank you.
I spent $16,000 on an off grid solar system with 30 400W of pv panels and controllers that provides 240 split phase with 30 kWh of battery power for grid down events. After rebates and federal and state tax credits I paid $9000. My return on investment is 5 years. Best decision and work I have done.
Those Mango power units are a simple, turnkey, portable solution, but a little pricey at $3,700 each. I live off grid most of the year in my Class A motorhome and have been doing so for the last 4 years. I just finished the first phase of my solar system with the installation of a 7,168 - watt hour 12v battery bank, which weighs 30lbs less than the two GC-2 golf cart FLA batteries (1,400 usable WH) they replaced. I made them from 8, 280ah LiFePo-4 grade A prismatic cells that have a 6,000+ cycle life - that's over 16 years if cycled 80% every day. My entire system including a self-lifting solar array mounted on the side of my MH cost me only $3,500. Granted, my 600w PSW inverter is smaller, but sized to suit my needs. This includes a 50A MPPT charge controller, 620 watts of solar, an 80a converter/charger, BMS, 5A active balancer, a 12v-12V charger (to charge off my alternator when driving), all wiring, breakers, fittings, etc. I designed and built it myself. I also have a 5,500-watt built-in generator for back-up and supplemental charging, if needed. After the first of the year, I will be building the 48v phase of my system with an all-in-one 3,000-watt MPP inverter/charger/80A MPT charge controller, 3,640w solar array racked on the roof, a 15.5k 48v LiFePo-4 bank, a 38 SEER mini-split heat pump (and 2000w dedicated 220v inverter) and all the components for about $8,500 more. This will give me a total off grid system cost of around $12k for 24/7 off grid heating and cooling and all my electric needs. And this is with no tax credits so I'm not beholding to the government for anything.
To a layman like myself it seems your biggest investment was that wealth of knowledge. Always so much to learn, so little time. Lol. Something I have learned is how those "govt rebates" for solar etc work, in Aus anyway. Obviously the details probably differ but the outcome is likely similar. Here when the solar etc gets signed off, the owner gets what is effectively a carbon credit which trades on it's own market. The quantity of credits is determined by the scale of the install. To obtain the rebate people (mostly unknowingly) sign these credits over to the govt to then trade. The "rebate" or exchange for this commodity is scaled AND capped. Meaning no matter how many of these credits you got the govt only pays up to a set amount but always recieve them all.
@@MadHeadzOz The way ours work in America is you get a tax credit for a percentage of what you spent the previous year that you can use to pay any taxes owed next year. So, if you have organized your finances such that you don't owe any future taxes, it's of no value. Plus, it puts you on their radar as someone who has an asset they can attach, and makes you a target for future audits, government inspections, etc.
May I ask you a question (I’m NEW) but I was considering purchasing these two items 48V 100AH | Server Rack Battery And the 3kW Stackable Off-Grid Inverter | SPF 3000TL LVM-48P Is what he is demonstrating the same thing just in a single unit ?
@@ecobluefarms223 Yes. Just remember that a 3,000w inverter will draw about 60 amps out of your 100ah, 48v battery. This means you will have about an hour and 20 minutes of full power usage from your inverter. I recommend a bigger battery for that large of an inverter.
You mention charge up time at about 1-2 hours from a WALL outlet BUT how long does it take to charge from 200W SOLAR panels? The website also seems to avoid giving out this information too.
200W is for like a very small RV. A house uses too much power for one panel. Look at heat by wood, by Propane and lighting with candles and oil lamps. Forget refrigerators, hot water tanks, and most electrical appliances with just 200W.
@@garysuderman174 Thank you - yes I know 200W is not enough but both LDS and the Mango website never mentioned how many panels or how long it would take to charge this unit back to 95%. They both over mention the 1.5 hours wall plug charge. I think it's good for people to know the whole truth. Look at Mango's site and you will see they never answer this question!!!!! Shame on them!!!
@@Gendo3s2k Thank you - yes I know 200W is not enough but both LDS and the Mango website never mentioned how many panels or how long it would take to charge this unit back to 95%. They both over mention the 1.5 hours wall plug charge. I think it's good for people to know the whole truth. Look at Mango's site and you will see they never answer this question!!!!! Shame on them!!!
@@ingridrose1092 He literally said it in the video "If you had ten of these (the folding 200W panel he has in a bag) it would take an hour and a half." It also says on the Mango site that the maximum charge rate from solar is 2000W. By the way I'm not at all supportive of these products, they seem an awfully expensive way to store electricity when you look at the price of used EV batteries. A 24kWh EV battery that is down to 60% would be useless in a car but it still holds over 14kWh.
I can’t thank you enough for this video, and Jesus is King, so everyone needs to know that in order to go to heaven and not spend eternity alone. Just believe in Christ and ask him to forgive you.✝️🇺🇸
I started off buying 4 P.M.A. rotors PMA stands for Permanent Magnet Alternator , They were $50 bucks each They make 1200 to 1800 watts each . They can be installed on Wind Turbines, Water Wheels , Bicycle , anything that spins , it can make power , the faster it spins the more power it produces . Then I started buying solar panels 2 at a time Then I brought power Inverters Then batteries I have about 3 grand in everything , It's paid for in FULL I installed everything and this system has already PAID for itself I owe ZERO ! This is like one long commercial , I didn't see anything helpful to me
I think for the cost I would go with propane for down grid scenario. A 420lb tank and 4650W generator is about $2000. Add in another $1500 for install and tank fill, and for $3500 I can have a system that will power my house for a month running at 12 hours per day. For another $250 in propane, I can run for another month. Propane is always there and never goes bad and the generator will never crap out due to bad fuel. Plus, I can run a gas heater and stove off the same tank.
If a EMP is sent, there will be NO gas OR propane available ...... to the average folks. Maybe at ”First” to those who can afford $8.00 per gallon STARTING. But when the Middle East, raises oil to an ungodly price .... and threatens to cut us off (or does) because of our alliance with Israel, OR war with their allies ....... our government, will be quick, to keep the reserves for themselves. ❤ Oh wait 😮 ...... that's right! Biden already used our reserves! Nevermind.
Exactly, the will NOT last any more than a couple hours if you only put small items on it. They are a joke. Take the money you would spend and just buy a Generator, Gas or Diesel in the first place.
@@rickclooney5461 was wondering how long you can run everything at once thankyou. Good to know I can only run my frizzers n toaster oven for a couple of hours before all my power dies n have to take 10 hours to recharge.
@@rickclooney5461 how are you gonna run that gas generator if you don’t have access to gas? Again people are not thinking grid DOWN. You are all stuck on “off grid”. If the SHTF there will be NO gas, NO propane other than what you have on hand when it happens.
Grab a small power station and a relatively cheap 100 watt solar panel and play with it, see what it can do in this scenario if your power station produces let's say 500 watts ac and you use a 100watt solar panel to regenerate recharge power if you max out 500 watts say using 5 100watt bulbs bulbs that will provide you with about a hour of light at night where a single bulb will run for 5 hours in actuality just a little less due to conversion. The same goes for the solar panel the only time ive see true 100 watt output is in winter on a cloudy day when there is a break in the clouds most of the time it runs at about 60 to 80 watts due to heat so you would nee about 6 hrs to recharge what you've burned in a hour using 5 100 watt bulbs as for the gas tank on said ps Bigger will get you better results the fuel tank are rated in watt hrs inverters are rated in watts your preferred choice more watt hrs (gas tank) compared inverter watts some current ps's advertise In inverter watts so you'll see large inverter capacity but a smaller number size gas tank. Some Ps's have really good recharge rates 500 watts plus So in conclusion start small to get a better understanding and it will turn out those REPUTABLE SOLAR INSTALLERS are probably blowing sunshine up your pant leg you'll need shades.😮
11:50 I'm confused. I'm sure someone could easily explain this to me here. But if a portable generator is capable of charging the batteries to power your house, then why can't you simply just run the house off the generator and skip the batteries?
Before anyone seriously considers this, check your electrical bill to see how much energy you're using per day. His list of devices this battery can power is deceptive since any battery can power your fridge, your tv etc but you don't know for how long and you don't know how long the power will be down. Also there will be plenty of battery backups thousands of dollars cheaper than what he's advertising. By all means get a generator and your battery of choice but don't think this guy isn't running an infomercial for mango power.
Doesn’t work if you can’t recharge… You also need to determine how you are going to recharge in an extended grid down situation. Rooftop solar is what should be avoided if at all possible since they tend to be grid only and difficult to clear snow/ice from.
@@roberthealey7238 That’s only if you get a grid tide system. There are a number of methods, like the transfer switch to go off grid, so your system won’t go down when grid tide. Or just completely be off grid and build a second panel for critical things in the house, like refrigerator and freezer and heat.
Almost everything you stated is not true. You can Not run all of those things listed at the same time like you can from the grid . Your terminology is wrong . And……for all that talking. You can buy an entire Whole Home back up generator from Generac for half or less the cost then your set up and it runs your entire home just like the grid of cheap propane. No noisy generator no batteries in your home . If you live in a condo or apt get yourself an eco flow delta 2 max back up solar generator and it will handle most of your needs during a power outage
After the big freeze and broken water pipes in Texax a few years ago, we had a 14Kw natural gas-powered generator installed. It was under $10,000 and that was with a new home circuit breaker box and the auto transfer switch. We had a four-day outage not long ago, and we didn't even notice it.
Good system, except that I've heard that there are problems with the app and some people complain that you MUST use their app to do things. In my opinion the Bluetti AC300 + 1*B300 system is comparable and slightly better quality and has a longer track record. But I do agree that the all-in-one units are better for a 'grid down' scenario than a far more expensive setup and are likely the future of solar. The best feature is these units can be expanded and converted to an 'off grid' use for much cheaper than the 'old traditional' solar setup.
Consider converting your generator to a propane using generator. Propane lasts essentially forever where gas goes bad after 6 months-ish. I have 100lbs of propane that will run my 2000watt Yamaha generator for a month. American Carburetor sells the conversion units for about $60.
@LDSPREPPER ...PER EMP SHIELD... @12:16 EMP Shield WILL NOT Protect the Mango Power Es. They need to be protected by a Faraday Cage or Bag. EMP Shields will only protect the AC Portion of the unit, not the DC or the ports the solar panels plug into.
I have a dynamo on the wifes training bike and batteries in the basement for the refrigerator. Win win for both of us, she get trained and i get cold beer
LDS isn't stupid ! Get your screw driver out ! 200 watts is 200 bucks, Lithium Ion battery's are 275 100ah. Put one 200 watt solar panel up for each 100ah lithium battery ! Use a MPPT controller and a 2,000 watt inverter and build system ! 4 panels, 4 batteries ! Do the math ! 2,000 watt inverter 130 bucks. Charge controllers are under 100 bucks ! Build it as you go ! 4 panel 1,000 bucks, 4 lithium battery's 1,200 bucks ! No secrets here ! Pick your solar company well ! Rich Solar is a good one !
I’ve text David twice before asking about items in the store and he exchanged several texts with me both times. I enjoy doing business with him and I support what he is about. Vote with your dollars y’all.
I charge my powers stations overnight during the cheap off peak hours for electricity, and they last all day and repeat it again the following night, the larger powder stations remain fully charged from cheap off peak electricity, ready for any power outages, never needed solar panels etc, so very little investment and huge savings
I had no idea that some people have been duped into buying solar panels without battery backup 😮 I just can’t imagine 🤦🏽♀️. Thank you for your always informative and caring videos.
a lot of times, its not even mentioned. they sell it by saying you'll sell excess power during the day and use what you need during the normal day, and you buy the cheap power form the power company at night. Rarely are the batteries ever brought up as an option from a lot of these companies, because when you include the battery backup, charge controllers and mandatory grid shutoff switch, (because its a big big fine to feed back to the grid when power is out for safety to the line workers) the cost is so high, they rarely make sales to average people. So they aren't really being duped, just not told the other available options to make a better decision of. And most people aren't preparedness minded, they just want cheap power.
Trying to tell my parents that. I’m not sure what they’re investing money wise, but I told them they need some kind of back up. I have a feeling summer, in the Ca Central Valley, is gonna be a b!t@#.
"people have been duped into buying solar panels without battery backup" I can! Remind me how many people supported Obamacare: If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor :)
I had a $60,000 system installed 6 months ago and i WANTED a battery backup, but the salesman convinced me to not get it. I love my system, but this just pisses me off.
So it would seem that you're missing the main idea of a prepper. For a true SHFT occurrence. You are going to need both. If the situation is truly going to post apocalyptic clearing the snow, dust, volcanic ash, or even fallout off your panels will be required. Fuel for a generator will not last. Your several hour blackout is a camping exercise. I am suggesting months!
I was thinking the same thing invest now and buy extra batteries and solar panels as you find deals and store them. Best batteries period 8 years old hmmm
Yep. Had Pink energy come out and give me a quote for solar. For a 1000 sqft house, they wanted 40k. I have generator and did think about buying a big battery pack. Not as big as yours tho. Some units w/o buying and installing a separate box for instant transfer, do it automatically. I think Bluetti can do that. Thanks for this video!
Grid down means grid down..no lights, tv, cable, internet, ( starlink down converter) minimal cell phone if any, traffic and street lamps., fueling stations, . Battery 2 way walkie talkies, ham radio, murs, most public services on solar backup (+2000w), noise free so no worry of attracting unwanted attention.
My understanding from this video is that you plug one Mango Power E into any outlet in my hours. When the grid goes out the power unit delivers current to the whole house via that single 110V outlet it is plugged into. Is that correct? My house is fed 220 volts that is comprised of two 110 volt feeds and a ground. How can the power being sent into a single 110 volt outlet get safely to the outlets that are on the other 110 leg of the house? Also the power unit will be sending current all the way out to the power poll which would be a danger to anyone that might be working on that pole. It would also send current to any of my neighbors that are getting power from the same pole transformer. That would be a danger to my neighbor too.
How long will the fully charged battery,(of the smallest version) last if current draw for all devices attached is at the max rate of power usage for the version? (For example: Well pump, freezer, furnace, TV, dehydrator, etc. operating at the same time. ) Thanks in advance for your reply.
Not an easy or simple question to answer. Smallest unit is 3.5kw (3500 watts) with a 3kw (3000 watt) output. Maximum "theoretical" run time, running 3,000 watts continuously, would be about 75 minutes. There are a lot of other factors to consider with these numbers though such as power loss due to inverter inefficiency. Pulling a constant 3,000 watts is a lot of power. Not all things run constantly and only cycle on and off for a short period, i.e. well pumps, furnace, and sump pumps. Also, most well pumps are 220v AC which will require two of these 3.5KW units to run and may still not run if the pump requires a high amp draw to start (starting amps and running amps are not the same). A typical home refrigerator/freezer will use about 2,000 watts per day.
@@navy_vet Thank you for your reply. About what I thought it would be but didn't know how to figure it out. I hope people will research on their own needs and the best way to meet those needs if the electric grid is down for more than a few hours. Some "What if questions" may need to be answered before committing to any backup plan. What if you have an electric stove and/or furnace? What if you already have natural gas hookup or propane bulk tank? What is the life of the batteries? Can the batteries be recharged if the temperature is below freezing? Should solar panels also be installed? Hurricanes & ice storms have on multiple occasions taken out the electric grid for 2+ weeks at a time. Would an appropriately sized generator be a better choice economically? In my case it was. I bought a 9500w dual fuel brand name generator for $1,000 a little over a year ago. It's connected to a 500 gallon propane tank. It has a remote starter key fob. BTW, propane price is under contract. Again, thank you for taking the time to answer my question. Appreciated!
@@oldtimerlee8820 Agree with everything you said. Here are the formulas to figure out electrical Amps * volts = watts Example in DC: a battery has 100 amps at 12 volts then it has a capacity of 1200 Watts Example in AC: a circuit has 110 volts AC and 20 Amps then it has the capacity of 2,200 watts. A watt is a watt for AC and DC in the most simplistic formula. If you have a wattage requirement then you can calculate your voltage and amperage requirements for AC and DC the same. If you need 1000 watts from a 12 volt battery then you need a battery with at least 84 amp/hours If you need 1000 watts from a 110 volt AC main then you need a circuit that can handle 9 amps. For the question you had concerning run time here is the equation Available watts (capacity) in watt hours divided by available draw in watts. Example: the battery capacity is 3500 watt hours and the inverter can supply or draw from the battery a continuous 3000 watts. That is 3500 Watt hours/ 3000 Watts = 1.16 or roughly 75 minutes because in the equation the watts cancel out and you are left with time in hours. Which when converted to minutes equates roughly to 75. Hopefully all my math is correct.
My mother has had three different solar companies up here in Northern California come in and give her a quote. Not one offers battery backup systems. Took a minute but when that last sales rep was here I questioned him to the point he spilled the beans and lost his sucker permanently.
Sorry but you should really clarify what you are saying. A 3.5kw battery back up might run any ONE of the items on that long list you read but NOT all at once.
I am looking on solar generators rather than solar panels for the top of the house as in flats and am just looking for things that will save a bit of money on daily expenses as the cost of electricity has skyrocketed so just being able to charge and run a few devices such as my laptop, space heater and electric rack and my LED lights seems ideal. To counteract it.
Depending on your age and health there's nothing wrong with just a solar installation to save money on bills. My Father's array has accrued at least £600 a year from feed in tariffs that have been helping to offset electricity and gas bills for the best part of a decade. It cost £8k to install because we knew the installer and helped to install it. We're definitely in the ballpark of having the solar system pay for itself.
Well we've got a solar system on the roof for 12 years now & it cost nothing, because the roof is rented out for 25 years. So completely free electric also I recently purchased some lithium battery generators to store power for the night time .
Right approach, but (speaking for my own local experience (Melbourne Australia) you paid far too much. My first system (1980) cost about 10 times as much as what I can get these days. Certainly worth it (and is STILL working at about 80% of it's rating) but these days I can set up a useful (STAND-ALONE) system for about $1000. (which DOES rely on restrained/intelligent usage.) I emphasise 'stand-alone'; otherwise why bother? Here in Oz grid-connected systems now are billed for 'grid-connection' and charged a fee for power fed into it. AND the grid-connect inverter won't work UNLESS it's connected to a working grid. (ie. in a blackout situation your lights/etc. don't function.
That's a great point about the benefits of solar installations for saving money on bills! However, if you're looking for a portable power solution for outdoor adventures or backup power at home, I'd recommend considering the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series. It offers massive capacity, super fast recharging, and a durable design suitable for any adventure. Check it out!
@@fuzzylogic33 it's not for ever dumb SHlT, by they way you do understand we own nothing when you registered your home on the land registry list. It's ignorance of people like you that spread stupid rumours. My electric bill is cut in half, how's your bill going.
Your solution may be 100% correct for USA but not for South Africa. This past year we have had 200 days of load shedding where we had on average 6 hours and sometimes 8 hours without power due to our corrupt government. I have spent approximately R120 000 (US$7100) on a 12 solar panel system with 15 k/w Lithium battery pack and a 5 k/w inverter. I have 6 refrigerator/ freezers running and sometimes I do welding off my system. I am now during the summer months completely off grid and during the winter months semi off grid. But I don't have any load shedding.
You are aware of the HUGE risks of Lithium batteries exploding and burning down your house, I presume. Every week here in Oz a fire is created by Lithium batteries, not counting the endless other fires in smaller things (battery-powered bikes/lawn-mowers/wheelchairs .) I've been around a VERY long time and wouldn't go anywhere near thi crap. There were ominous hints coming from the industry/insurance companies even long before Lithium batteries had even been herd off by most people. BE CAREFUL.
This is more about emergency power right? those unit's he is selling can't take you off grid and run your refrigerator and AC on simulaneously, 24/7 ? from May to Sepetember when AC is used, for many people 16 hours a day, and in Phoenix, Las Vegas, and Palm Springs, and other city's where it remains over 90 degrees at night you need AC practically 24/7,
LOL, It doesn't cost that much after rebates and tax breaks! You need to clarify what you said in the beginning you can't run all those products at once like you are suggesting! Come on! $3,700 Dollars for just one no solar panels is a rip off!!! I can buy a complete renogy kit with solar for that price!
A neighbor has 20k of solar. He has a very expensive inverter - but only 200ah of battery power. Recently, he lost power for two days, and could not even run his furnace after 12 hours. His generator failed, too. He had enough to run his pellet stove for a while, which luckily ran just long enough during the night to then run during the daytime. His modern propane stove wouldn't run without power. Crazy. I have 200 watts of solar, and 200ah of battery power - but my heat can use kerosene and woodstove using zero power. I have kerosene dual-burner cooktop - again, no power. I have 1/10th the solar, comparable battery power - but can last two weeks or longer, easily, during winter.
I am not a fan of using kerosene inside, especially with no exhaust venting. Plan B would be a small camping propane stovetop with a 20Lb tank adapter.
@@guytech7310 Kerosene is NOT like propane - yes, it needs ventilation, but it's not nearly as dangerous as propane. Further - you would NOT want a 20lb propane tank INSIDE a house. The little 1lb bottles are OK. I have propane camp stoves, too, and they work fine. But, not for general heat. A 10,000 BTU or bigger kerosene heater is DESIGNED to be used inside, cannot explode, and do not produce 1/4 as much CO as propane. The technology has been in continuous use for 130 years.
@@Jollyprez Its the soot thats a problem with kerosene. Propane stoves\ovens are common in homes. I have one so burning propane inside a home isn't as big as concern. You can buy propane appliances at most stores like Lowes\HomeDepot.
@@guytech7310 Sure, but don't bring a 20lb tank inside a house, and park it near any flames. As for the soot of kerosene - virtually none if the wick is at the right height - which all the kerosene "flame spreader" stoves force. I've been running kerosene for over a decade - no soot problem. Also, for emergency purposes, kerosene is far far safer than propane in enclosed places. Sure, there are appliances that use propane, but that's not what we're talking about. We're talking emergency - where everybody may have to go to a single room and keep that warm. Regarding a kerosene cooktop - yep, those are more aggravating than propane - it doesn't react to fuel-flow changes rapidly like gas. But - it doesn't blow-up, either.
I just want to thank you for researching, explaining the system, and giving us the opportunity to buy at a sale price if we choose to. I see hateful and negative comments and wonder what they are doing to help anyone, but their attitude is their issue. We can all learn from what you share and decide if it works for us or not, so I appreciate all you do! God bless you and your family!!!
They're trying to warn people that even with his sale price (because this video is just an advert for mango power) there are plenty of cheaper batteries out there which could do the same job while saving you thousands.
I want a grid down system. My only option is to charge on grid power. HOA doesn’t allow solar nor portable gens sadly. I’m looking for 7000 watt storage. Don’t need 240 right now but I’d like to have it. Do you only sell only mango. Truthfully I like the ecoflow better at this moment. Perhaps once I know about the advantages of mango
Very good video. This is the route I'm going. I recently purchased the Bluetti AC500 system which includes a 5000-watt inverter (output) and expandable up to 6 separate 3kwh batteries (total 18kwh capacity). Also, expandable to 36k storage in split phase if you purchase another AC500 inverter. The prices between Mango and Bluetti are similar. Not sure about the warranty differences. Bluetti is 4 years. This is definitely the best bang for your buck. And you can grow into these with the expansion capabilities if you don't have the $10k-$15k to spend on it up front. These are fractions of what people have been spending on complete systems. And, its portable if you need it to be. "Whole House Power at Portable Power Prices", indeed.
@@heatherk8931 I know. I've had pretty good luck with my purchases from Bluetti. But I read the blogs and they are not good. But I really believe that Bluetti is a superior product, but they are rolling these units out too fast. And they will admit that right now they are playing "catch up" to meet the demand while maintaining adequate QC and customer service. Obviously, if they don't fix that they will not be around much longer. But I believe they will fix it. Tesla had/has the same problem. It's a wildly popular product.
When the Texas power grid failed a few winters back I was smart enough to have a Harbor Freight Predator 8750 already wired into my home. We used it the entire time Texas had no power and lived as normal as I usually would have. The drawback was the fuel it used during those 7 days. When we were warned the storm was coming I was smart enough to fill up 55 gallon drums of gas that got us through. Yes it was expensive at the time but after hearing how some people froze to death I never have regretted it.
yes temporary solar is cheaper. no argument here. but if you really thing that is all that is needed, then you are not paying attention. every year, we find that those radical scientists who were supposed to have exaggerated global warming were actually being too conservative in their estimates. in fact, every year, and often several times a year, we find that disruptions are coming sooner, more frequent, and more severe. the system you specify here will be largely obsolete by the end of this decade. and you do not have to spend so much on solar. i built my own setup from retired solar farm panels, 270w high efficiency at $100/ea, and all are producing higher than their rating now 3yrs later. if you have any capacity to diy... that will save you a lot. 14x270w=3780w at 14x100=$1400. i got used tesla batteries, 5.2kwh at $1k/ea, and are available today for $700/ea. with $10k you can setup a very nice solar system that will provide all your needs in most of usa. here in the far NW usa, i only have a bit of shortage for 1.5 months that are nearly always overcast. yes... i heat with hot water solar with wood backup so electricity does not go to heating... nor should it. heating from pv panels is the least efficient way of solar heating and is just stupid. diversify your energy to the most efficient. convert your lighting to native dc led lights and save the energy loss for ac/dc conversion and voltage conversion. if you are in the north, choose the pv panels that are optimized for low light efficiency as that is your constraint. getting a panel that is designed to work best with pure sunlight when you live where that happens less than 25% of the time is just silly. solar is easy... it is not rocket science and there are plenty of great sources of information here on the web. just DO NOT limit your options and spend the time to look around and digest a diverse sourced information. i'm in my later 60's and i build all my own things and am not going to slow down for anything. keep moving. keep thinking. live well 🙂
Great information. I have a similar system in the UK using two PowerOak Portable Power Stations EB240. They are 2400Wh each but only output 1000watt each at any time. But enough for running fridge freezers, the microwave, TV, Desktop PC and a laptop. I can also plug in our Aircon unit if needed. Obviously, the more appliances you plug in the less time the power is available.
You had me until I noticed the cheapest @ $2,000. Totally agree with you but I'm more in the price range of Ecoflo river at $500 running old 100watt pannels from harbor freight.
I live offgrid since 2019. Total 3200 watts in solar panels Charge controler 20 000 watts (20kilowatts) in batteries 3500 watts inverter/charger (this is a bare minimum recommended wattage in my own experience) Plus built a "power" house to hold panels (tiltable) and protect all equipment. Total investment: 9700$ (Canadian dollars) In winter, snow removal is not an issue with the panels almost vertical the snow doesn't stay on it. Plus I get more light from the reflection of the sunlight on the snow on the ground. My investment already been paid compared to when I had electric utility service provided by the grid (was paying 2200$yearly in electric bills).
You can get a 1000 Wh unit from Grecell for $650 (CAD). Four of those would do the job of one Mango unit (rated at 3500 Wh) at less than half the price. Not as convenient, but not a bad choice for folks on a tighter budget.
Yes sir. All most people need is a simple grid-down battery backup system. My backup system consists of four 12 volt deep cycle AGM batteries (122 ah each) and a 3000 watt psw inverter. A 20 amp charger keeps the batteries hot and ready for a power outage. While it doesn't have a UPS function, it does what we need it to do. It's a 12 volt system so I can run my 12 volt dc LED lights and a few other 12 volt appliances. In the summer of 2021 our power was down for about 6 hours in the 90+ degree Texas heat. This setup ran a 8000 BTU window unit and kept our refrigerator cold the whole time. I just recently purchased four 100 watt solar panels and a 20 amp charge controller, but have not set them up yet.
My 40-250 watt pannels only cost me 1200 dollars for 10,000 watts. 900 for the 5000 watt diy inverter so I bought two of them which gives me 10,000 watts. They are 48 volts forklift batteries and I even run air condition mini split.the batteries have 43.200 watts. It runs everything all at once.
Since i already had a big propane tank I bought a 24kw propane generac for under $10K installed. I figured that I could turn everything on in my house and run it for a week before I ran out of propane but the reality is that for $1k you could get by with a 6kw gas powered generator wired into your panel and run what you need until the grid comes back on.
I have a 9500w dual fuel generator connected to a 500 gal propane tank. We already cook & heat with propane that's supplied under annual contract pricing. Have a few 5 gal cans of treated gasoline in a shed for just in case, as well. Gasoline periodically rotated.
🤷 I spent $1600 for a 9,500 running 12,500 peak watt portable generator and the inlet/lockout kit. I can keep everything I need running with it.. I have an oil/steam heating system with tankless hot water.. and it stays on with zero problems.. Yes, I have to roll it outside, get it hooked up and start it.. but it's not a problem. If it ever does get to be an issue for health reasons, I'll pay a few bucks to have it all set up to be semi-auto (as it has a remote start) 🤷
@@oldtimerlee8820mine is dual fuel too, but you get less power using the propane.. But if it comes down to ability to get gas when needed, having it hooked up to a large propane source is nice.
@@warthogA10 Storage space required for an equivalent amount of power from gasoline is a big factor. Especially when 5 gal cans, travel expense and manual labor to use is factored in. Another is the shelf life of gasoline vs propane. As long as the container doesn't leak, storage of propane is practically unlimited. Without additives, shelf life of gasoline, especially with ethanol is very limited. BTW, just got notice of the upcoming 2024-2025 propane home heating contract price. It dropped $.20 per gallon from last season. Was expecting the quite the opposite.
@@oldtimerlee8820 .. all you explained is why I stated having the ability to use propane as well is great. For average, short term outages, I use gas. But once my two large cans are empty.. it's nice to have the ability to switch over, especially if the outage will be much longer, as we've seen outages of 1 to 2 weeks at times over the past 10+ years.. With all the solar BS.. wait until the population sees what happens to those prices if they ever succeed in actually stopping the general population from access to fossil fuels. Of course.. the elites will always have access. They'll explain they're more sophisticated and THEY know how to use them responsibly and they're important so they have no choice.. 🤷 And they will start implementing rules, laws/regulations on which solar panels you can have, how many, how and when you're allowed to use that energy and how much at a time.. Just as they have water restrictions in many places.. there will be energy restrictions .. because it's all been about power and control over the resources, the general wealth, and the general population.. all along. That's what the entire 'global warming/climate change' scam has been about..
Thanks for sharing this idea. Unfortunately in most parts of the world solid fuel costs more than mains electrical rates so running a generator is actually more expensive than using the mains. That's why solar and wind is preferential. The upfront costs of a self built solar system are regained after 1-2yrs when compared to a monthly mains power bill. After that all power generated is free. Nice alternative though there isn't a one device solution to home power generation. It requires multiple sources of generation to reliably provide off grid power nó matter what the conditions. Learned that the hard way 😉
You can add a transfer box, I think it is called, where when the grid goes down, it automatically transfers the solar panel power to your house only and doesn't feed it to the grid. Then, you have power. Jerks who sold them the systems should have mentioned that. The salepersons for solar are just like used car salesmen, scum of the earth.
Wild Wonderful Off Grid channel installed their off-grid system for way less than any contractor would bid for. If anyone is interested in true off-grid power then they should check out their video from about 1 year ago where they did a detailed invoice of what they installed and cost breakdown.
I've been watching that channel since they began the A frame but not everyone has that much land and renting a machine for that huge solar panel collection and digging a ditch and then the cost to hire a specialist electrician to hook all that up is enormous. This video is for emergency back up, not full time off grid. Better to have a battery bank or a system like the prepper here is showing. Grid tied or not, a system like this with more than one way to charge it, plus anything else like candles, oil lamps, wood stoves, and anything to bring down draining the system too much or too fast would be best in my opinion.
Where I am you cant just feed power to your house circuitry when the power is out. You need some kind of a transfer switch if your connected to the grid. If the power is out because they shut it off to work on the lines and your feeding power to a wall plug, its connected to the grid. Your making the grid wires live. You would have to have the switch and wire it to your main panel.
I have installed a 5kw solar panel with 6x12 volts , 150 ah lead acid battery on my home. Now ,going on 5 years+, my electricity bill drop by 90% . Besides running my whole house like fridge, water heater, induction cooktop, PC, TV, Microwave, 12 leds bulbs etc, I charged my electric scooty with this solar system and charged my electric car on Sunny days too. My total expenditure in Indian Rupees is 3 lakhs 20 thousand which is about 3900 US Dollars, so anybody telling me that Solar doesn't work is totally untrue.
Run your furnace on a power pack? And how do you plug your furnace into this power pack? My furnace is hard wired. There is no plug to plug it into a power pack.
You can do it a couple of ways. 1) Install a transfer switch to your main breaker panel then decide which circuits will be powered by your backup power source. 2) UN-hardwire your furnace and install an outlet in the wall and a plug on your furnace. I did this immediately after my furnace was installed. I did #1 recently so I won't have to do #2 anymore unless I want to, for whatever reason.
We went with a Bluetti system that we can add extra storage and it runs our freezer and will charge flash lights and such. You are correct that most don't actually know what they need and get taken by salesman.
@@lindac6378 the things we are worried about charging are flashlights, radios, weapons lights and one top load freezer which we have run it on to test how much power it takes. All cooking will be done in a wood stove, a Coleman camp stove that can use unleaded gas, and a rocket stove. Anything else is just fluff and not important. If we can increase the size of the system and the solar panels, we may be able to use it occasionally for a movie on a small TV and DVD player. We are quite aware that most of the things people take for granted will be of no use once things go south.
There is a HUGE difference between being completely off the utility grid, in this case the electrical grid verses situations of short term loss from the electric grid. These 2 scenarios are literally apples to oranges comparisons. Average US home uses around 30k/w per month and too generate that level of power can cost a lot. What people need to do first is find out what they can live without or create non power work arounds regardless if going the apples or the oranges route. Once you've answered that question, then you can begin to size accordingly and pay accordingly. Being in the "off the utility grid" category, I have different criteria and needs from the scenario being discussed in this video but what/how I choose to build my system is indeed way overkill from someone looking to get through a short term grid down scenario. This is where solutions like this fit in very nicely.
Not to nit pick you, since you got it pretty nailed, but average US household uses about 30Kwh per day not per month. Please don't get offended by my comment. The biggest issue I see is a lot of homes now have heat pumps or other very power hungry systems that just aren't going to work off-grid. For the most part to have a true off-grid setup you really need to start from scratch: Have a well insulated home to keep energy consumption for heating & cooling low as well as a heating system that can operate off-grid. If you can heat\cool with some small mini-splits that would work for off-grid, anything larger is going to be a problem. A propane\Oil\wood boiler is an option, but I would be concerned about the rising costs of Oil\NatGas\Propane. Probably we will see Oil\Propane prices north of $10\gallon do to peak Oil (2018), Geopolitics (War with Russia\China), Inflation (insane federal gov't spending & unfunded Gov't pensions & entitlements).
@@guytech7310 True, but in a grid down scenario, you power only critical loads. Home theater doesn't get run with netflix going nonstop and computer station running idle. You power your furnace, some LED lights, sump pump. What you need versus what you use are two very different numbers.
@@guytech7310 Wow - 30kWh/day? In my humble opinion, that is a LOT of electrical energy when compared to other well-developed locations in the world. Just & only to provide some global perspective: My 1992-built German house with central heating (heated floors etc.), proper insulation and all modern standards uses around 8kWh/24hrs during wintertime and
@@19ghost73 the majority US homes have been to keep building costs low, which means little insulation (probably walls with R-10'ish and ceiling with R-20'ish). US homes very leaking with a full air change in 30 to 40 minutes). The US is heading for an epic energy crisis. The US managed to dodge a bullet with Shale out, but Shale oil production is now in decline and will fall into terminal decline around 2027. I beleive Europe is in far worse shape since it pretty much painted its self into a corner. Russia was the only real reliable energy supplier for the EU. The EU is facing total de-industrialization and probably unemployment rates toping 60%. There is no way the US can even come close to supply the EU, considering the US is a net Oil importer, and much of its NatGas is going to be needed for NatGas Power plants as it shuts down its coal fired & nuclear power plants. Currently the US now has 70 GW of new NatGas Power plants under construction which when completed will consume close to 10% of US annual NatGas production. Another major problem for the EU is going to be food production as the EU bureaucrats are forcing EU farms to close or limit farming practices that will drive many farms out of business. Russia & the Ukraine were major food exporters to the EU, but that is off the table for the foreseeable future. If you plan to remain in Germany, I recommend you have the means to be nearly food self-sufficient. FWIW: I am building a homestead in the US. My new home well insulated only needing about 24,000 Btu during the most extreme cold\hot days. I have a 100 acre farm (mixed with pasture & timber), Have AG equipment, Chicken Coop, small orchard. I practice what i preach.
Very nicely done presentation informative and no nonsense of a good system to set up not just to be off the grid but when the permanent grid down scenario across our wonderful nation possibly might occur by natural or unnatural forces. Either Solar flares, EMP, nuclear Attack, Domestic or Foriegn terrorism attacks on the nation's grid system, or global weather wars and instability of the tectonic plates in a pole shifting scenario, or any dystopia catastrophic events that could occur. A system with a combination of solar, multiple fuel generator, vertical and or horizontal wind turbines, and enough battery back up to run everything inside/outside the house, I would say at least a good 6000-10;000 watts should keep things comfortable. In a bug out scenario at least the smaller portable systems can be moved and relocated with the folding solar panels. Be safe fellow Americans and Preppers as we move into 2023, God bless America, UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL. "For evil to flourish good men and women do nothing" Edmond Burke 1766 The Remnant, December 27th 2023
@@invisibilianone6288 Probably a well spoken quote throughout the ages, spoken of by regular people, holy men, prophets, medicine men, shamen, shaolin monks, sages, or those political rivals locked away in forgotten cages.😊
Do it yourself solar is the way to jo. Start with 2 100 watt panels and a battery for $300 and add from there as you can afford it. I learned everything on RU-vid.
You sir have given the best advice ever! I live in a remote area but im on the grid. Everybody around me is invested in solar panels with batterries on grid. They payed over $50,000 for the system. I use an old diesel generator and batteries i pulled out of a cell tower which i aquired for free. When pge shuts my power down due to fires or storms. I run off a pure sine wave inverter hooked to my batterries and then i kick the generator on to charge them back up whenever ever i leave the house to get supplies. Super simple, super cheap, super easy. Grid down power is the only thing you need.
Iv never needed backup power all my life (63 yrs) till this pg&e fiasco. That and moving to Tehama county. They used to turn off power for days on end after the fires. They turn off the power for flooding too. Be ready if your not in the city.
So you have a power station that is juiced by batteries, and then once the batteries are out, you use the generator to charge the power station and batteries? I am new to this, so why not just use the generator full time?
I have a different set up now. I ditched the lead acid batteries that i got from the cell tower and invested in agm batteries. I have the generator just in case the power is out for a very long time. I can use the generator to trickle charge the batteries at the same time i power the house. Its a big diesel so it is not effected by power load up. But if the power goes out for lets say 12 hours or less, i can run the house minimally with the charge on the agm batterries. They are constly trickle charged by the power company when the power is on. The agm batteries are much better then the lead acid style. The power has gone down about 5 times so far this past year and it was out for about 6 to 10 hours everytime. The agm batteries had enough charge in them to keep my critical cicuits powered the whole time without having to turn the generator on.
