Little Lupita’s dad won her a Thriller T-Shirt. At the end of the Thriller music video, MJ wakes up his date from the dream and as they walk out his eyes turn yellow, revealing that he was a monster the whole time. Basically what I’m trying to say is Jordan Peele told us the end in the beginning.
Not really. It's a nice Easter egg to recognise after the fact but nobody is going to look at a thriller t shirt and think of the twist at the end of the video.
I mean the ending was given to us before that scene. The poster that was released with Lupita holding a mask of her own face, & her crying face behind it. That pretty much gave it away but we didn't know when they released it.
It suddenly occurred to me that the guy standing on the beach that Jason saw at the beginning was the beginning of the Hands Across America. He had his hands out waiting for others to join him.
Been waiting for someone to comment this, after noticing it was the guy holding the Jeremiah 11:11 sign clone I realised after they kill their originals they then join the chain, wondering why that white family shadows still stayed in the house after killing their originals though, maybe it's just because of the short timing before the main family reached their house and interrupted.
cannot believe i just realized “tethered” adelaide wanted “real” adelaide to handcuff herself to the table because “tethered” adelaide handcuffed her to the bed when she switched with her
so disturbing to think the reason the tethered version of the young boy had a scarred face was because of the amount of successful times the thumb trick worked in the underground and burned his face against his own will.
@@candycolriv Did you catch the fact that "I got five one it" and the kid's fist bump represented that they realized that they were half tethered and they had to stick together because they were "mixed"? This movie is deep!
The little boy knew when she killed the rich people. When she was killing them she was making the same noises that the duplicates made, he saw that when he walked in to see what was taking her so long
@@ZR38315 I didn't think it was because of vocal cords but because she then lived in a society where no one spoke any words and because she was still a young child she forgot his to speak. But could be the vocal cords
The scene when it flashes from young Adelaid dancing, to her swinging at the doppelganger, continuously missing and getting beat up, the doppelganger predicting every move, with the dark hard bass, blaring music and the "I got 5 on it" remix. Only one word to describe that scene: EPIC
Also the fact that she was the real Adelaide so she knew where her tethered version would swing was the biggest give away right before they actually revealed the end.
I loved the whole movie but I thought having a clone of each person in USA was a stretch too far. If it had just been the people in that town/state I think that would have kept it in the bounds of possibility
I thought it was only in Santa Cruz/ California. Mostly got that feeling when they watched the news and they reported it like it wasnt an event happening around the country but just in the boardwalk area. That's just my thoughts though
Well, at the beginning it said that there were miles upon miles of underground facilities that had been abandoned, so maybe there were more cloning facilities?
The grunts after Adelaide strangled Red (the real Adelaide) was such a dead giveaway, the whole theater had a damn eureka moment. Everybody spent the next half hour discussing the twist
@@4ktv353 it changed the way u saw the tethered/clones, u went the whole movie believing adelaide was normal and a good mom and all that, and that the tethered were emotionless monsters. when u suddenly find out the the protagonist clone girl was actually the real version of adelaide and the adelaide u had been cheering for the whole movie was a tethered. it changes quite a bit
Not showing what happened when she encountered her duplicate in the hall of mirrors (after the foreshadowing/symbolism of being trapped, unable to find an exit), meant that this moment was being delayed for a dramatic effect later, and the most obvious twist is that they switched places. (I mean, it kind of has to happen in all doppelganger stories at some point, right?) I agree, the grunting and jittery body language "normal" Adelaide displayed at times confirmed my suspicions that she didn't quite fit, even with her family. She tried, and had some protective instincts, but was a bit like an alien.
Agree totally. This universe makes no sense if you really think about it. But it was so well done I think if you take it as a genre piece and a metaphor, it’s easier to just sit back and go with it.
@@cristianortiz6442 because no one in the tunnels could speak, so in that environment, Adelaide would quickly stop speaking. It just adds to the film's theme of how environment shapes our reality.
I think it’s both that the tethered Adelaide crushed her voicebox and that she hadn’t been speaking in so many years. Idk if it’s just me, but as the film goes on the real Adelaide speaks more clearly as she talks more.
Things I noticed on my second watch. • The noise that Abraham (tethered Gabe) was yelling at on the boat was the tethered white dad. (When he gets on his boat when fighting Gabe he then makes that same noise) • When Red was explaining the story, she says when Ombre (tethered Zora) and Pluto (tethered Jason) ombre was born laughing (she died laughing) and Pluto was born in fire (he died in fire), it also explains why Adelaide had been upset when the tethered kids died. • Kitty (white mom) on the beach she was clearly jealous of Adelaide's natural beauty, she clearly doesn't always get along with her husband, even joking that she would murder him and even mentioned that she had plastic surgery. When the tethered Kitty showed up, she pointed at her cheekbones and then sliced her cheek and when the tethered white dad was killed, Kitty's doppleganger started laughing. • Looking back at the movie, knowing that the tethered Adelaide was the one we were following, it explains why she was willing to handcuff herself, why she looked more freaked out than her family, why when the family shows up to the house, Red started whistling just like how Adelaide whistled in the start of the movie (and after she was killed) why she was so paranoid bc she knew the real Adelaide was always coming for her. Also. The Thriller t-shirt is not only a reference to how the music video ended, but how the film itself will end.
D Taylor the tethered kid was really her kid.the little boy was switched the summer before that’s why they kept mentioning he was changing since LAST summer
@@vincem3393 I dunno about that. The tethered kid, if he was real, he'd have known about the closet door, and it doesn't explain her saying he was born in fire. Also he didn't seem to know what was going on initially like she did.
@@lawrencelim9331 she was upset because she was once in their shoes and they looked like her kids. She doesn't have much sympathy for the others though, as she easily killed them. I know I would be pretty disturbed to kill someone or something looking just like me, or even like my kids.
To me what makes 'RED' special is that she was actually in control the night she met her original. The way the reveal is filmed it shows her making the movements first and the original acting like a shadow, going away for no good reason. They say earlier in the film that the point of the experiment is to make the shadows be able to control people on the surface. So they actually succeeded with 'RED' however she escaped. That's what I got from it!
YES! Finally someone that made sense of that for me! I was even about to say are we just going to ignore the fact that original Adelaide could've just walked out at any time? But she must have remained under the clones control for quite some time which is also why she said "and to think, you were the reason why I danced" or something like that lol
She didn't escape. The tunnels were still getting energy under the Government. They wanted THIS to happen. They provoked a chain reaction that went through all of the United States. This happened because the duplicates are entangled partners of each people. The "Genius" (the guy behind the experiment) knew that all of this would happen thanks to nowadays knowledge and technology. It's not a coincidence that the experiment started after evidence being found of entanglement. The government wanted to use it to control people by dividing it. It worked. Nothing was a coincidence in the movie.
The therapist scene gave it away for me...the fact that her mom said I just want my daughter back...I literally said out loud yeah because you got the wrong one 😂..I still enjoyed the movie though. A really fun watch.
I think Adelaide’s ability to survive and build a family showed that if the clones were given the resources they needed, they could have been successful. However, they are the marginalized group and live separately from the people who are higher up. I would like to see a prequel, but I like the ambiguity of it all
I think it can be any marginalized group. It could be as simple as the haves and the have nots. I think it’s more about social classes than anything else.
@@AgentsofSCREEN They had a lot of symbolism that suggested it was just about poverty rather than race. The originals were all affluent and living in lavish houses while their tethereds were poor and suffering. The tethered lived terribly trying to imitate the lifestyle of (literal) upper class until they decided to revolt. Then there's the commercial that was concerning world hunger and homelessness. On top of that, the very first tethered to kill his double was that of the homeless guy who was predicting the end of the world.
The twist was kinda so obvious i hadn't considered it. Looking back i'm kicking myself. The scratchy voice, the parents anxiety, lupita having the paranoia 😑
@@user-wy1et9dk9w Like you aren't to blame for not considering it, because really the twist has no effect on the overall course of the narrative. The twist shifts what was originally a revolutionary movement into some kind of elaborate revenge plot, but the rest of the movie leading up to the twist was illogically misleading.
Ser Tyton um I disagree the twist gave the people down under a motive for a revolution... if the real addy wasn’t put down there they would’ve continued to mindless wander down there controlling the people above
@@kdvn1 What I'm saying is that the movie would have worked well without the twist. Without the twist the plot would have made almost perfect sense, you can still have the doppelganger be "different" and rise up to lead her people. The twist causes far too many inconsistencies and plotholes
I'm pretty sure the suit was red to symbolize the red people on the 'Hands Across America' shirt. Don't doubt what you said but I'm more than sure their red jumpsuits weren't to symbolize Michael Jackson when they literally took to the whole 'Hands Across America' thing
@itz DRod There is no way to know if that's true. Not saying you're wrong, but I just think that getting her neck strangled at a young age might have caused some permanent damage
Anyone else see the twist at the end coming? I just came back from seeing it and loved it. But I can’t help feel that it was pretty obvious that they both switched
Definitely didn't see it coming despite the spoiler shown in all the trailers. I thought that choking scene was a mirror reflection seeing herself get choked...like one of those mirror jump scare scene. I just thought she got so traumatized that she wasn't talking and being her usual self.
It was obvious. But the execution and the stakes and scale was really great that i dont really care that it was predictable. Its still a great movie in general
I thought the girl was traumatised, but after the mother killed the best friends daughter in the kitchen getting the keys, the mother let out the same “sick giggle” that all the in red where doing I knew what was going down. And the son saw that too. Which at the end he was like 😕
shapen360 this movie makes you think. It is a “red pill” movie meaning that it comforts you with the brutal truths about our worlds, the inequality, poverty, and oppression that exists today for millions of people. After watching this movie we Are left with a choice: take the red pill and see reality as it is or take the blue pill and live our comfortable lives in ignorance of the suffering around us...
If you watch it again you can see that the thing that makes the protagonist pair special is that the underground version gains control of the above ground version, draws her into the fun house against her will and captures her in the tunnels. It shows that the above ground version is having a hard time chosing a prize, and the underground version chooses the shirt. It's stated that the above ground version didn't know why she wandered away from her father. It's because she was not in control at that point, the under was. I think it's more accurate to call the people in the story overs and unders rather than referring to the unders as "the tethered" because literally everyone is tethered to their doppelganger. The overs are tethered to the unders and vice versa
Here are some things I noticed: 1. The scissors are used because they are mirror copies of one thing that are connected and used sever ties 2. The thriller shirt the girl won, was inspiration for the red outfits the copies wore 3. There was another scene where fruit loops in a Bowl were shown, just like that scene from Get Out
@idkroselle yep, the movie is trying to be woke on a narrative that dosnt exists. The hidden meanings arent even hidden. After the movie ended all my friends started predicting that movie was about some unequeal iniqaulity inner demons society bullshit. What do you know. Movie was predictable af. We went in expecting a horror movie that tries to reinvate a genre but all we got was one big political message. Movie is gay
@@MYTHICALTWINKIE did you seriously just use the term "gay" to describe something you don't like. Sorry but are you like 12 years old and is this 2003 or something? grow up loser.
I feel like this may help a lot of people because although the twist is crystal clear, some things may not add up at first. BUT THEY DO WHICH MAKES THIS MOVIE WAS GOOD! 1. The reason why Evan looked at his mom so weirdly at the end was because upon recollection, he was ACTUALLY THERE throughout the entire conversation. I could be wrong about this, but him overhearing everything could definitely change how he views his mom. Otherwise I do not see any other reason why he looks at her that way. 2. Lupita didnt have a fear of beaches, she didnt want to go back to THAT BEACH. Hence why she suggested a different one. In the beginning, the young lupita wandered to the house of mirrors (beach) which led her clone to her. Therefore, going back to that beach would essentially lead her original back to her, like in the beginning which is why she was so against the beach. 3. Lupita's "Clone" was the only one who could speak english because shes actually the original + her voice was raspy due to the choke and the inability to receieve proper care 4. This may already have been answered but I still think its cool that once the clones kill their originals, they become happy as shit because they arent tied to a puppermaster anymore. Very unique. 5. Lupita (original) got handcuffed whilst the clone went above. This explains why Lupita (original) handcuffed her clone when they met at the house again. Interesting enough I believe those are the same exact cuffs used when she was young. Which makes that encounter all the more amazing. Overall, I saw the movie as a metaphor about 2 things 1. How the rich/wealthy (above ground) turn a blind eye to the realities and horrors of whats going on with individuals and families wrho are poor, less wealthy and living in poverty. 2. How given the proper resources, every single human can thrive. After the swap, the clone was still able to build her life while the original was now in a situation where she couldnt. Thus, a metaphor for the world and how if everyone was given the same opportunity, resorces and access to food, shelter, water, knowledge, job opportunity etc then we would not have such a large population of individuals who are starving, illiterate and are denied the right to live etc whilst other parts of the population do not deal with such. Even in the real world, give one child all the access they need to strive and deprive another child of the same, what happened in the movie will most likely happen in real life as those amendeties can be the difference maker between a healthy and thriving life or a life filled with struggle and lack of opportunity.
For your first point, he also comes across his mom as she's killing one of the twins' clones. She's doing it in a WEIRD way, and he starts noticing something there. So when he sees (or hears) it at the end, I think he actually does understand that she was the clone. Still his mom, but in a very strange way.
@@reechel4390 Of course they do, I think at first when they are shown in the panning out intro, it definitely symbolized the switch and how addy was now the one locked up. It also represents the common known fact that rabbits easily reproduce making them the best test subjects for cloning . You are definitely right
@@JasonHook9 Of course, like I said even if the clone has been the mom the whole time and shouldnt change anything, im sure any kid would like at their mom a little differently after seeing and hearing the things he did. Def doesnt change shes his mom but it certainly puts a questionmark on how much he can trust. For instance, eventually he'll put the peices together and ask if hes half clone, which will probably mess him up so yeah, he has the right to look at her a little weird lol
Interesting analysis. My take away from this movie is that we have to destroy the evil part of ourselves; that part of us that causes us to self-sabbotage. There's a constant battle between good and evil raging inside us and if we just suppress the evil, rather than destroying it completely it always comes back to haunt us. We must confront the wicked side and totally annihilate it in order to have true peace in our lives. Although the fake Adelaide chained up the real one 30 years prior, that was not enough because we notice that fake Adelaide was constantly living in fear. Had she killed her back then, there would be no fear. In any case, both Adelaides are versions of the same person so she was really fighting with herself.
There was foreshadowing in the cinematography too, most of the important scenes with lupita were off of a reflection, it was never really focused on her
Abraham mimics the father ( touching his own face when the dad touches his own glasses, for instance) Also, Pluto had the mind of a dog, so he was probably more susceptible to be convinced to do tricks.
i don’t think that’s how he realizes his mom is the clone. i think it begins when Adelaide kills the white twin and she’s grunting like the others, that’s when he starts looking at her funny
It’s kind of reminded me of black mirror episode “white bear” where the whole time you root for the protagonist and in the end you find out that they were the bad guy the whole time but you have now idea what to feel because you were emotionally connected and knowing they are the bad guy just bums you out
'Them'. Isn't a prequel or a sequel, it's a film from Red's point of view as she grows up, plans her revolution and shows us 'Us' from her point of view. It's called 'Them' cause she sees us, the ones up above, as 'them'
Yeah, I figured out the twist as soon as it cut away in the fun house. I knew it was confirmed when she beat that one twin clone to death and was very aggressive about it. I could tell it was way too off for her to be the "regular" one. But it was neat. She was the Tethered, but... she was regular. Like you said, the kids and husband grew with her and have only known her as such. She didn't have a master plan. She wasn't scheming the whole time. Red was the "villain" but also... not really at all. The movie definitely did its job, had me sitting there for like 2 minutes in silence while my thoughts caught up to me.
Is nobody going to mention the fact that when Adelaide initially meets Red as a kid, they appear to be wearing the same shirt/collar, but when you watch the flashback of Red abducting Adelaide, Red is initially wearing a different shirt (before she goes up to the mirror house), and then takes Adelaide's shirt after she handcuffs Adelaide?
Red is wearing her own Thriller shirt, it’s just dirty and torn. She switches into Adelaide’s clean shirt and you can see Red’s version on the floor as she does so.
The scene where the main character looks at the spider crawling towards the toy spider is one of the most genius and subtle moments of foreshadowing ever in a movie. Edit: Apparently the spider was moving away from the toy spider so now I just fell dumb. Oops.
Matheus Cavalcante | the real spider represents the real version of the main character coming back to kill/torture the “toy”(the clone/tethered) main character. This happened during the time that the main character was getting paranoid about her non clone counterpart was coming back. Also I am sorry I forgot everyone’s name
Jacob bohrer I didn’t catch that. Whole time I just thought “So is she just gon leave that Spider right there?” Lmao. The twist ended up makin a lot of sense tho. Explains why Lupita’s character was the only one of the Tethered that could actually speak. And her voice sounded the way it did because she got choked out and probably didn’t get it properly treated while she was trapped down that place. (Idk if that’s how it works in real life, so excuse me if that sounds stupid) It also explains why the Tethered Lupita couldn’t initially speak, write, or dance at all.
I’m pretty sure it’s implied they are cloning the rabbits just like they did people so there’s an endless supply. And they mention that husband and wife are tethered together so they would have made the same kids. The kids didn’t need to be cloned. I guess your argument for it could be well the odds of them having the same kid is pretty out there, but that could just be like the rules. The magical force that ties them causes things to happen exactly the same.
@@Ryi725 they don't have to clone rabbits, from my limited knowledge they reproduce in a incredible speed, and also if they make clothes thay must have a underground farm cotton farm, might as well have a farm for plants, to feed them rabbits.
Sebastian Zellah I didn’t say they cloned the rabbits, I asked how do they feed the rabbits. And I don’t think they 1. Had the space or resources for a farm for rabbit food. 2. The knowledge to farm food for the rabbits. (Also because they say the rabbits are the only food source so if they can farm food for the rabbits, why not themselves?)
@Fury255 Wouldn't need to be fed? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OH BROTHER! They just grow...scientifically. No food. Within minutes. POP! Full grown rabbit clone #3478 and #3479 advanced to cages 387 and 388. BTW, who is cloning the rabbits? The government? Or the mole people who have mastered the technology 600 years ahead of time? They also have millions of generators to power the underground electricity, and create Michael Jackson T-shirts and ballerina costumes with sewing machines and have them ready right when the people above trigger the cutscenes! And the government scientifically created clones of the entire country, except for the kids of course, as the clone mom had two hybrid children, and the real mom had also two hybrid children...but the reason the hybrid kids were different was because the lighting of course. Too much flickering light! No, I think you should just accept that everything is supernatural. Why would they mimic real people, like when the clone mimicked the boy and walked backwards into the fire, or the montage showing the mom and clone grow up doing the exact same thing (and the clones had no vision of the real people doing actions, so it has to be supernatural!) Why would they make the whole line message around the country, complete with breathing underwater in the ocean, rather than just survive if they weren't supernatural? Why wouldn't they just leave the tunnels if they weren't bound by some supernatural force? Why would they eat the rabbits raw instead of cook them? How else would the clones specifically know where their real counterparts were the night of reckoning, and why would they only target them?
What he was talking about around 7:30 was what I was thinking as well and what made me confused. I was confused on how the duplicate was affecting the original until I found a comment that said the duplicate was a successful experiment. The whole purpose of the duplicates was to be able control the people above but it failed because the people above controlled the duplicates however lupitas duplicate seemed like she was in control the entire time. Which explains how she was able to switch with the original then was able to continue her life as the original mimicked her. After enduring all the pain the original probably snapped out of it.
In the film near the end when Red is explaining the clones and why they were abandoned, she says “but we were born different. We were special” which I think proves this and that’s why Red was forced to live out the mirrored life down in the tunnel while “Adelaide” lived out life on the surface
according to the logic behind the clones, you can copy a body but not a soul, so the bodies stay connected but only share one soul leading one of the two (the soul-less one) to go crazy and mimic the life of the original as if he was his shadow. in the case of Adelaide, she swapped places with her original and managed to develop a soul of her own, different from the original, by leading a life among original humans. it's as if she was born when she came out of the theme park. so basically the case of Adelaide seems to confirm Red's hypothesis (or at least what i believe to be Red's hypothesis) that clones too can aspire to a normal life, unlinked from their originals. the only thing that doesn't really add up is why Red never tried to escape. there might be reasons, sure, but still... it's not as if the facility was guarded or stuff, and she probably remembered her way home, so... anyway it's not a major issue and this film is awesome
hm good movie but there' a LOT that doesn't make sense. 1. why can the 'normal' people above ground only sometimes control their clones? for example when the young boy backs up so his clone walks into the fire. why wasn't he being controlled from the very beginning of the film when they invaded the house? same goes for all the other clones. what made all the clones underground go from copying their above ground counterparts (acting as if they're on roller coasters) to suddenly being able to go above ground and hunt people down. 2. why didn't the original girl version of Lupita just WALK OUT OF THE UNDERGROUND once she was unchained from the bed? she knew how to get down there, so why doesn't she just leave? whats stopping all of the clones just literally leaving if there's an escalator that takes you down underground.
Yeah, that second point bothered me as well. I think it was stated that the other clones realized that she was different and made her orchestrate the whole thing. Maybe along the way she grew sympathetic towards the clones and wanted justice? Or maybe (probably) she went crazy down in the tunnel. As for Jason controlling his clone, I believe that the original Jason realized that the clone copies him as part of the game they were playing (remember the clone was mirroring him when they were in the closet?). He used that to get the clone to walk in the fire. But it was all orchestrated by Redsuit Lupita who just wanted to kidnap Jason to lure the real (revealed to be the clone) Lupita down into the tunnels.
I believe the boy was able to reestablish his connection with his clone in the closet scene. In the beginning, when Adelaide teaches him to follow the rhythm of 5 on it in the car, he learns to be in sync. In the closet, he has the boy get in sync with him using the hand motions his mom taught him precariously. I believe it’s supposed to be that connections can be reestablished. Also note that 5 on it played when Adelaide fought Red in the final fight, with cutbacks to the ballet. I believe that meant they were in sync, as to why Red knew her every move. As to your second point, idk lol
@@mr.normal2754 The movie wasn't metaphorical or ambiguous in any good way. Peele literally had no explanation or way to make a full movie out of his idea. Nothing in the movie made any sense at all.
Thing is: rabbits have very little nutritional value "Rabbit starvation" Its a tragic thing Of courae thats assuming marionette doppelgangers require the same degree of sustenance as a regular human
Don't know but my question is when the clones were mimicking their doubles were the doubles bumping into the walls? I know for sure their sewer wasn't an exact replicate of the above world. When they walked by one another and see a clone bumping into a wall do they say "Oh... that sucks. Her double must be running or something. You'll get through it Suzie!" "Thanks Tom. How's your head after hitting the wall 100 times?" "Fine... just fine."
Idk because someone, cough RED cough, brought them out of that mind state. She gave them what they needed to no longer be trapped down there forever mimicking the one's above. She literally explains it in the movie
@@savonlofton I get it but the boy was able to mimic his double backwards into the fire. I'm just wondering why he was the only one to do that after they came out?
In the movie it showed bits and pieces that she is one of the "Tethered". (I watched it again this time knowing about the twist) Like that part when she killed one of the twins. When she stabbed her, she growled like a Tethered and when she saw her son watching, she snapped back to normal. Or when she was going to the mirror house and going to the tunnels, she knew exactly where to go. And yes, when she killed the original, she laughed and hissed like a Tethered also. The son knows. Probably the original told him when she took him down to the tunnels. I'm telling you all, watching this movie again for the second time feels like watching another movie but just in the mirror image...lol..just like a tethered's way of life. Jordan Peele is a genius. My thing is, will there be a sequel?
Alejandro Flores Also if all the ‘clones’ are forced to mimic what their other half on the surface does seemingly against their will, why can they just decide one day to stop doing it and go to the surface and act all on their own. What changed?
Agree. Is the rabbit breeding and making the jumpsuits really that important? It's not a movie to overthink the logistics of. Unless Jeremy wanted 10 more minutes of dialogue explaining the entire plan.
There are so many problems with the logistics it’s hard to focus on anything else. The praise this movie is getting is ridiculous. It was bad. I love how people are trying to read so deep into the movie to find redeeming qualities. Treating it like some kind of classical piece of literature. Whatever the message was, the plot was put together so sloppily, it wasn’t worth the effort to think about.
@@ninjagonzalez That's not the point. The point is the twist literally causes the motivations and interactions of the protagonist and antagonist to almost entirely fall apart. I can suspend my disbelief for everything else but the movie literally defies its own established logic.
ntube7 they were actually the first clones since they started with animals and then moved onto humans, when they abandoned the project the cloned humans had nothing to eat but the rabbits
At the end when she started going to look for Red and it was like a five minute journey through doors and down an escalator and all that I kept thinking how does she know where to go
In the final scene during the fight. Red actually says something to her, you can see her mouth moving, but you can’t hear it. Did anyone catch what it was?
I thought the fight scene Lupita had with herself was awesome. It made so much sense because the doppelganger new every move she was going to make. They share the same soul.
Agreed. I only watch reviews AFTER I’ve seen a film as so many RU-vidrs spoil endings saying things like “I won’t spoil but the ending is x” how isn’t that a spoiler?
idkroselle it wasn’t that it was scary. It was more of “damn she really fucked up on how she did all of this” (tryna give context without spoiling lol)
Dude I fell in love with this movie. I never talk during a movie but this move made me jerk my body in awe every time something happened. I lost myself in the film!! I totally loved Lupita N'yongo. Jordan Peele totally surprised me how talented he is. He's a genius!! The ending was a twist that totally stuck with me. I can't wait for his next film! I loved this movie.
Mind=Blown. I don't know if you are right, but it would make sense. There are so many damn layers to this movie, eventually Jordan Peele will explain a lot of it like he's explained a lot of Get Out.
I was thinking about that too I figured not many people would catch it and I didn’t know if it was too far of a stretch. I was thinking about how the movie could be about people in other countries and how sometimes as Americans it’s easy to take for granted things if luxury like running water etc..
CrimsonMaverick lol you know what that’s fair. I saw that as an homage to the elm street movies but I guess it doesn’t make sense logically. I loved this movie but there are logical inconsistencies. I’m just willing to look past them for the sake of the enjoyment and the final twist at the end and the emotional impact that brought for me. Totally get it if others can’t tho
For me if the concept is engaging enough, I can look past the failed logic of a film. I have to say, I was grinning from ear to ear while watching this movie. Really appreciated the "Monkey Paw Productions" sequence at the opening credits. Truly helped to set the tone. Plus, it was like watching a puzzle being pieced together (my favorite kind of film). Will have to go back and see it again (probably twice). Really enjoyed this movie.
*Spoilers* I kind of had a gut feeling about it, but I was suspecting the doppelganger killed the mom and changed their clothes because when she found Jason she looked batshit crazy, then I was like 'don't be silly, you can't grow hair to that long in 5 minutes'. And then boom, she was the original doppelganger! And I thought about it, I felt I should've seen it a mile away, it was the real girl saw the hand in hand ad! The doppelgangers had no TV so how could she know the 'hand in hand around the world' ad!
@@GmoneyManPants While yes, dissecting the film can make it predictable, it's the reason Jeremy mentioned. It was able to steer you away from the prediction, making you think you're wrong. Then when it happens, it basically mind-fucks you. Also because of Jordan Peele's direction, and I had a different prediction of how it would go.
Christopher Lowery the son was probably a clone too. They kept saying how he changed last summer. And he fell for the door trick twice (getting locked in the closet)
He said "Line Up" a lot, remember the coincidences thing. They start happening more frequently the lady said, what if the gene dice rolls to make identical twins were a part of the supernatural or whatever. Like the frisbee landing perfectly on that circle.
Great question, concept vs logic. I think it really depends on the movie, but US in particular made care about the concept more, so while the plot holes were there for me, it didn't bother my enjoyment of the movie.
For me, the biggest plot hole was how the rabbits fed themselves. I saw no containers of rabbit food nor vegetation in the underground area; Everything was pretty pristine all things considered. (Lack of bathrooms bothered me too)
The tunnels and facilities cross the whole country. I'm sure there were many other facilities we didn't see and different rooms that had food, bathrooms ect
I think the social commentary about opportunities and oppression are at play in "US". During the 3rd act and flashback scene where little Lupita engaged with her doppelganger, Lupita said, "You could have taken me with you", which plays like MLK's dream of seeing everyone being able to unify, despite our differences. We are then introduced to the rest of the tethered, as it's revealed that they are living a very limited existence, underground. When it's revealed that Lupita's doppelganger was the one living above ground the entire time, I understood that if any of the tethered had been given the opportunity to be in an environment of love, attention, affection, and compassion, they could've flourished to be well-rounded human beings, much like Lupita's doppelganger was able to do. The tethered were forced to be in the condition they were in, relegated there by "God", as stated by Lupita; however, someone human engineered those circumstances. They were man-made, much like slavery in the United States (Us), in which, to a large degree, the Christian God and the Bible were used as justification for the practice of slavery, keeping one group subjugated, while the other one flourished. In terms of the impact of slavery as an institution and its aftereffects, the oppressed and oppressor and the progeny of both, are inextricably, tethered. Perhaps, the tethered coming above ground and killing off their privileged selves who "took their lives for granted", per Lupita, is a metaphor for some type of reckoning, orchestrated by the underclass and oppressed in American society.
I am Who I am! Me. Everytime a movie staring a black lead or black director, people are so quick to jump that it’s a representation of how the US is/was. I’m not knocking these theories though.
What really turns my stomach was when the one we thought was the clone said to the other 'i never knew why, why didn't you just take me with you?' that's so true
My favorite take away is how her dancing foreshadows the ending. Most of the clones are slow and sloppy in their movements, and when asked why she didn't pursue her dancing career, she said she gave it up when she was 12 (when she swapped places). Then at the end the true human is elegant and nearly flawless in her movement.
*Literally came from watching the movie and sees Jeremys notification* Perfect!!! Edit: Since I got so many likes, allow me to comment on this movie. I fucking hated the ending on this movie. It raises far more questions than it answers. This need to explain ruined the movie for me. Why do we need to know where they came from? Why couldn't it be just that they showed up and we never found out why? This movie had a fairy tail/biblical escue feeling to it. And like in fairy tails and biblical, the family lands in a situation where they don't know whats going on and need to find a way out of it. "I realised god was testing me" However, when the family finds out what was going on, the movie loses all of its previously built up feeling and throws it away. The magic vanishes when we find out whats going on, and I'm not sure if I can forgive the movie for it. It would have been a lot better if it had skipped the explanation entirely. Thanks for the likes btw. And please keep your cool in the comment section. This is just my opinion, and you are free to disagree with me.
@Tom The Fish I went into it thinking it would be about code-changing but line "we're Americans" shows that the Red's see themselves just as american as the their counterparts even if they didn't have all the privileges and advantages. The "reveal" shows that anyone could have succeeded had they not been trapped underground and been given the same situations. Hands across America was rich people coming together to "fight" poverty but the real one actually failed showing that success doesn't breed closeness, the dwellers succeed because they all suffered and understand what unity could achieve. The WEB Du Bois analogy doesn't address those other plot points.
maybe the jumpsuits were from whatever project that got cancelled by the government? And also i like how you brought up the similarities to the twilight zone, because this movie reminded me of that one episode of the twilight zone set at a train station where there were doppelgängers at the station that were never explained where they wven came from but was effectively creepy. felt like a continuation to that story that ive always wanted
@@zymosan123 I notice that "overrated" tend to be used for any popular movie that features a Black cast. We all know why you think its overrated lol...
I think that offsprings, concived in the same time, of a normal couple and their two exact clones would be the same if the movie accepts determinism as it's main ideology.
@@user-xq8uf3jx4l not in a deterministic ideology. In determinism you are bound to your fate no matter what, so if something happened, it was meant to happen wheather you wanted it or not
Yeah, but even if that were the case, what is causing them to be locked in fate? Is it the government that made the clones? Or are they hellspawn? Because then the plot would have to be controlled by supernatural forces. But if that's the case, why weren't the clones the same as the real deal? The only times they mimicked the real people were when the boy walked backwards and caused his clone to burn in the fire (ala the clone from Tomb Raider) and the ending when it showed the montage of the mom growing up. Everything else, the clones acted differently, and were all coordinated by the real mom. Not just that, the clones were stronger and faster, but clearly lacked intelligence, for the most part. (I still don't know how the dad won the fight with his clone after missing the flare or how the mom dodged every attack her tethered clone lunged at her, as if she were toying with her...and speaking of which, the main family was the only family that was toyed with; everyone else was instantly murdered!) Was there really a need for electricity in the demonic tunnels? I'm assuming they really didn't need to eat to survive, and that their clothes were demonically created. Ok, so what's the deal with the message of having a line cross the country? Is is a message to god from the mom...because everyone else is dead! What also supports the whole "voodoo demonic creature theory" is the people in line being underwater without breathing, plus the whole "all clones appeared one night at their real counterpart's homes and murdered them" and no way the government could create a whole country of clones AND what was really keeping the clones locked underground? Clearly they were not mimics outside of a few scenes. So the clone merely traveling to Santa Cruz gave the real mom the power to return and control all the clones to kill everyone? Is there some kind of real-life message about us not treating our shadows right in the real world? Scissors? Rabbits? Red suits?
You're totally right about the twist thing. I wouldn't have seen the twist coming, but since thumbnails spoiled the fact that there was a twist, I figured it out within the first 5 minutes of the movie starting
I’ve always wondered how strange the phrase “have you heard of the high elves is”, like imagine somebody in the street walking up to you and saying “have you heard of the chinese?” 🍺
I love when Tim Heidecker psyched out Elizabeth Moss when she tried to reach for his hand. I'm betting that was improv'd. All the primal communication was funny as hell too, like when Tim Heidecker was on the boat dock. I liked the name of the boat, Be-yacht-ch.
Seeing Us was genuinely one of the most entertaining cinema experiences I’ve ever had, i got so into the film I just forgot where I was and I loved it so much.
