RU-vid/Google continually choose to work with the CCP defense companies over American companies, and you wonder why a video that ever shows criticism toward the Chinese is demonetized? Bro, there are intelligence groups made of tens of thousands of analysts telling RU-vid what to censor/demonetize/suppress/blacklist.
It seems unfair to make the Chinese carry land attack missiles which they can't use in the battle while the other carrier groups carry exclusively anti-ship and anti-air weapons.
he openly said all the battle was set up to cripped red team one way or another > make sure blue alway win . because he get more money donate every time blue team win
I just want to reiterate THIS IS A VIDEO GAME, it does not replicate all the intricacies found in a real world battle, it does not replicate the weapons capabilities in real life, and therefor it does not have any bearing on real life. I think some people forget that.
Not only is this a game, this is DCS, the worst game to simulate a naval battle in. That's why I watch cap's videos with a huge bag of salt lol. His videos are fun, but in no way it simulates or represents what would have happened if the USN and PLAN clashed in the sea.
@@superbudegu if fictional doesn't matter then the quote "pens are mightier than swords" will not able to exist . constantly bombarment unfamiliar , naive viewer with misinformation , lies , fictional , bias confict/war scenario long enough then people will believe everything you said are truth . that is "how to win information/propagranda warfare 101" . why do you think there are so many channel with 500k , 1m+ sub praise US/NATO ability will crush china/russia everytime working 24/7 exist ? the inforgraphic show , the military show , politico , Sandboxx , task and purpose .v.v.v can't even remember how many of them there
@@kimjonglongdong3158 DCS is not made for modern naval warfare simulation, only something like Command: Modern Operations can do something like this and even CMO is not realistic enough. the naval battles you see on this channel are not real and this is not how they would nplay out in real life. Most of the weapons used have their real capabilities classified, the ranges of the naval battles are not real, the missiles and AI are dumb af, there is no EW involved, etc. Naval warfare is very complex for a game like DCS to emulate properly, not even CMO is capable of that.
@@superbudegu Ah so its more that DCS is better suited to older tech battles, plus lack of info on modern systems? The battles are still pretty fun though
Why is this a complaint? They only have 8 Type 055 and 25 Type 052. The US has 73 Arleigh Burks, and 13 Ticonderoga. IF people want to put all the freaking Chinese cruisers 055 in one carrier group then the US should be allowed 9 Ticonderoga's. Each hosting 75% of their Cruizer fleet in one carrier group which is stupid. Really the 2 055 and 4 052 vs 2 TC & 4 AB should really look like... The US having 12 Arleigh Burks and 3 Ticonderoga's and 2-3 Carriers vs 1 Chinese Carrier 2 055 and 4 052.
@@WindowsXP-SP3 its more or so their missile capacity that makes them relevant, they have around 122 VLS cells vs the Burke's 96 VLS cells. and Datalinking is a thing so even if the Tico's have older radars the Burkes can make up for that and guide the missiles the Tico fires along with the E-2 hawkeye towards the targets.
The SM-3 is an exo-atmospheric interceptor for medium and long-range ballistic missiles. It lofts a small kill vehicle into near-space along the trajectory of the BM, and then the kill vehicle jets itself into the sub-orbital BM. The kill vehicle on the SM-3 isn't even explosive, it is entirely kinetic. The YJ-21 and YJ-18 are based on short-range BM's that don't leave the atmosphere. The US Navy carries SM-3s in their VLS because these interceptors need to be used over the Pacific near the Russian/Chinese coasts, or over the Atlantic near the European coast. If used near the US coasts, the warheads would likely already be entering the atmosphere and could not be intercepted with an SM-3.
In 2023 alone, China built 43.22 million tons of ships while America only 0.6 million. Just imagine if China puts that massive ship building capacity into military purpose. It can make American navy look like a small baby in no time.
The problem is with the conversion rate (seen 30:1 from some study) and restricted supply of crucial parts. But I highly doubt the scenario as the building time of modern warships are that long and the supply chain so vulnerable. The side that is slightly disadvantaged in the first few days will have their shipbuilding asset wiped out. And to consider that the US has two ocean fronts and its operation base lined up all the way toward China's door step, basically it can afford to lose many battles but keep gaming while China is one defeat from game over.
@@jimwsh1 Hi, well he is english so make sense , you could do your channel and make he red win ,,, Or just do not watch . End of the day just a game , fortunately
@@Rheinmetall2025 True let the troll fall for their on delusion . I like looking at those video from the houthis PR they are such nonsense , yet people like them the guy is a total caricature of Sash Baron Cohen ... so hilarious .
CAP, can you please model the SEARAM for the arleigh burke flight III's. It is similar to the HQ-10 from the chinese. I know you have the RIM 116, but they seem under modeled compared to the HQ-10
This game is 16 years old? So a 2008 engine but with 2024 tech. I love when you redo old battles because of the history lessons. I enjoy these as well though.
Nice fleet combat videos! Please add random submarine influence to make more realistic as subs might be deciding factor in many scenarios. Keep up good work.
Yup 100% with you. Cap's correct that mix of realism & entertainment is the way to go. Who would watch if there was zero drama and zero uncertainty from a continually one-sided fight? And you certainly wouldn't watch if the game crashed over and over from the US using multiple carrier groups! Simulations will improve over time, of course! That said, I personally get huge value from the occasional exploration of a reality-centric video like this one. Well done!
@@Doodelz02 "Who would watch if there was zero drama and zero uncertainty from a continually one-sided fight?" are you blind or just pretent to not see nearly all of his battle video between blue vs red team alway end up with blue team won in a turkey shot 2+/1 k/d ratio with alot of love bias toward blue ? more aircraft , mass equip 5th gen , smaller rcs , human pilot , more missile cap/aircraft , US anti air missile god-like accuracy , full of non-existen future weapon ?
@HoangNgocThanh-qy8cq I'm sure that's well intended feedback. (I'm not, but trying to be polite). Feel free to invest the time and energy to make your own in an effort to support your family and entertain folks around the world. I'll happily watch ... one.
What do I do after you Vids? Go to make coffee and then sit down to work (I work on a UK University Student Management system all the way down here in NZ)
RU-vid keeps deleting my comments with suggestions so I guess I'll just give up and say that the U.S. Naval doctrine (centered around AEGIS) cannot be accurately modeled in DCS.
I don't know anything about DCS so i've no idea if it can even be done. But I would like to see a PvP battle with evenly matched fleets where each side has a player acting as the admiral. That would really give some insight into what a real battle would be like.
Would love to see zumwalt eventually, both versions the current one and its future refit to give it the Long Range Hypersonic Weapon (LRHW), it might be able to counter the 055 class of ships.
Given how long Cap has been doing this I'm surprised that any complains about something. I'd like to complain about a few things but the game has it rules and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Maybe if someone make DCS2.....
@grimreapers You're infographic for the Type 055 is wrong. In the sim the Type 055 fired 480 HHQ9Bs but the infographic you posted shows them with 72 a piece for 432 in total. So it looks like in game they have 80 HHQ-9Bs
Already addressed this on a different video, They would like to do other navy"s like france & italy for example, but the assets aren't available yet, They will do the other navy"s as they become possible..
It would be awesome, but he said he's waiting for people to create the models for those other navies. I think it will take a while... There are also tricky things to model for them, like the STRALES system used by Italy.
Just an observation - The type 055 is larger than its counterparts; 6 of these would equate to 7 Burke class in terms of displacement, which in turn provides and equivalent number of VLS cells between the two sides. I wonder if a strike group would add the 7th destroyer if such a fight were anticipated. Another aspect that troubles me about these fights - the aircraft take off after the fight has already started. Wouldn't it make more sense to have at least some of the aircraft in the air at the start of the engagement (if not all of them)?
No it does not because it's not a naval simulator. It's a digital air combat simulator that has Naval assets. You're going to have to find a naval simulator to realistically do this kind of simulation. As he said this is just for fun
Could we please see an all asian carrier battle? Izuma and Kaga vs Liaoning, Shandong. Maybe South Korea supports the Japanese with two Sejong The Great destroyers attached to their groups (similar vla to Ticonderoga). Thanks
@spencer7404 Yes, I know history pretty well, actually. And seeing how you are not aware of the JAROKUS pact it is my pleasure to be the one to inform you that both countries signed a security pact in 2023 and have already participated in war games together and will do so again in 2024. They are both proud democracies with shared rivals. I am glad to be the one who got to tell you.
@@joed1015 I know about that. It's just a show for the US. It means nothing. Those two have zero trust in each other. In fact, they will both enjoy sitting and watching the other one die. Let's wait and see how Yun Seok-yeol ends up with first. Then you may talk about the so-called pact, as a joke. The Koreans don't like his decision so much. And cut the ideology naive BS. The world doesn't work that way. It's about money and power. And if you know Asian history, as you claim, most of the time, Korea, China, and Japan got along with each other pretty well. As for rivals, Japan's gonna bite the US sooner or later. This country knows when to kneel. And China is a partner of Korea. They need each other more than you think. Watch less fake brainwashing news.
Compare carier with destroyer is like compare truck with infsntry tactical vehicle dude, those are destroyer mean to destroy everything they have ability to eliminate whole navy f-18 fleet at once.
@@IetsgoBrandon I actually wrote Mongolian Navy first instead of Paraguayan, but it was too much of an insult to DCS, plus technically the "Mongolian Navy" wasn't really a military/armed branch even though it was at one point a government owned service.
I’m new to this but would these destroyers ever get within firing range of their anti ship missles? Seems like the advantage of an aircraft carrier is like having aircraft that can out range a ship
Cap great video as always…. One consideration I keep thinking about during this series is the anti ship planes once launched anti ship weapons they should engage other planes with short range
A loyal dog of the United States. In the Middle East, American aircraft carriers can't even defeat guerrillas.😅A loyal dog of the United States. In the Middle East, American aircraft carriers can't even defeat guerrillas, but in your video, they can challenge Chinese fleets.😅😅
So in reality the Us would have the carrier along with destroyers, cruisers, and attack subs and the last 3 ships mentioned all would have anti ship missiles. The ships also have anti aircraft/ missile defense. But as you properly did the us would also include ally ships in operations in certain type of operations. However our aircraft carriers have the F35s so the air wing would definitely launched to also counter the 055 type destroyers causing the Chinese to either loose their ships or turn and break off!
And to think that they're doing stuff like this on more powerful equipment, and getting paid a lot of money to do this, at the Pentagon, Whitehall and the MoD in Beijing.
If real war started, and going with nukes wont be used, how long could any country expect to keep affording, monetarily, too replace destroyed top of the line equipment? Planes, tanks, ships...all of it..at what point would a country be forced to go back a generation or 2 of a given piece of equipment? Let's say its the 3rd year of a back and fourth hard fought war, both sides are having medium to heavy losses. With the cost of the top equipment being so much money, I feel like at some point the top equipment would no longer be an option for replacement. F35 back to F15 type of situation. US VS Russia/China... how long could each country keep replacing top of the line with top of the line?
That was nonsense. Sorry to hear that, Cap. I thought it an interesting fly-by of earth terrain I'll never otherwise get to see. (plus enormous fun with your team, of course!)
Hey gents are CHs assets working again for the common man, or are you still having to fix them. Sorry for asking but CH dosent answer his trouble tickets. Thanks
@@user-ii7mo4wg5h Are mice DESIGNED to have heavyweight torpedoes that can do this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5DuJaGFkCmg.html to ships? Your entire analogy is false. Nuclear submarines are purpose built ship-killers (and killers of other subs). By contrast, destroyers are primarily designed for AAW and ASW is secondary.
I know it’s got to be a cast iron bitch to A come up with ideas for entertaining videos B try and please all sides in the viewership and C do it every other day. I personally am neutral on these carriers battles because they don’t really take into consideration all the things that would happen in reality. It’s basically leakage of anti ship missiles. Whichever side prevents the most leakage wins. I much prefer the historical recreations and re-enactments. With the maps we have now in DCS there are tons of historical and interesting topics. Just the Sinai map alone is enough for a month’s worth of videos. Any way, that’s my 2 cents for what it’s worth
Anyone who thinks the battles using modern or near future tech are going to be realistic are idiots. It's fun to watch, like a sports match, but pretending that the made up numbers are reflections of reality is madness. Or how you end up with F-15s lol
Stupid simulation, A Carrier Group has that many Cruisers and Destroyers among other support ships and you add a UK Carrier Group. If it was the Prince of Wales it wouldn't make if far from port!
This is so dumb. The whole point of a US carrier group is FORCE PROJECTION. The Chinese destroyers would never get in missile range before the carrier launched all its strike-capable aircraft to attack them. Plus, while the strike aircraft are executing their mission, the US carrier group would be steaming in the opposite direction of the Chinese task force to keep them out of their missile range.
This is assuming that the Chinese have a functional carrier, or even a blue-water navy that can actually meet the U.S. at parity, neither of which they actually have in reality.
Cap in this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yl-zchkhrYI.html you showed America could defend against 50 DF26s....Are the YJ21s faster than the DF26?
hmmm yes that is interesting. I would expect DF-26 to be about the same speed as YJ-21. My suspicion is that the problem is that the YJ-21 is now traveling a lot lower than it used to. It may be causing problems for the interceptors?
lol balance and fun really ? you don't remember older carrier battle video you made where blue side alway enjoy much more aircraft , human pilot , mass equip F-35 and basically go turkey shot the red team with way less aircraft , 4th gen jet , all AI no human ? where were the balance and fun you care about at that time ?today when red team start having some OP stuff , you suddenly care about .....fair and balance + fun ? you really think people gonna forget your super bias toward blue team to the point even when you allow red team have J-35 you still heavy nerf them with only 2x PL-15 instead of 4 ? while mass equip all blue team F-35 with 4x AIM-260 each that doesn't even exist yet .......it even more funny when MAKO missile only exist currently as display model but you still go and mass equip blue team with it ...tbh may i ask you equip the red team with all similar "display model future weapon" for fair/balance and fun too ? because red team also have alot of them
@@paulefc1971 yes a bunch of heavy bias toward blue team and misleading game show ...he never care about fair and balance for the red team before . but suddenly do it the momment red team start to have some really OP weapon system
@@HoangNgocThanh-qy8cqseriously dude cry harder, I've been watching cats videos since he's been on youtube. Unless you got a link to prove what you're saying, I think you're making it all up. Also when it comes to the Mako it's actually gone into production and we have proof at work unlike the mythical Chinese stuff😂😂
@@WyomingchiefHe’s said before in a yt comment that every time “blue team” wins, he gets more money but when they lose, he gets less money in terms of donations or something like that.
You know I keep watching these videos, carriers groups and everything else. But you always say what's the aircraft Carrier's name? The navy's defeated, but naval warfare has never been fought from a Carrier. That's always been fought from the ships. And the ships are still there to do the damage back to the other ships and possibly still win. It's about the last man's standing. Not just who's Carrier's gone?
It's also strictly for entertainment purposes, it's also doing Naval simulation on an air combat simulator. There are limitations and maybe not take things so serious
@Wyomingchief when doing digital warfare .you expect the process to work as best as possible. Don't call it the most accurate simulator in the world if u can't do the real spec of these battles and call it the world's my accurate simulator just like the hq9 and d series missile from China are crap and so is the radar of the china's military and Russia .but seem only everyone but Russia and China weapons have flaws in this simulator
I don't see anyone complaining, yet the comments criticizing others for complaining got the most likes and replies, Lol that's what Americans are like...
GR valued viewers: Please don't stop commenting. Some are incredibly inciteful. I read many every day! Almost everyone does it respectfully, and who could ask for more than that!?!
you don't see because this channel practice very heavy censorship and remove comment complain about his hate toward red team and very bias toward blue team in many way
@@imawumaoandprocnoh my God can you complain anymore? Where exactly did cap touch you that hurt you? Get a grip dude if you don't like it then don't watch😂😂
And yet the presenter repeatedly says about being criticised for things and saying sorry " people it's how the core game models it" ect, In fact the video is a giant hey people this is why things are done the way they are & explaining what they can and can't do about how the game processes and models the scenario & it's assets..