2027 US & UK Carrier Groups vs 2027 Russian & Chinese Carrier Groups (Naval Battle 137) | DCS 

I love how cap got so distracted with the summary at the end that he missed a mako salvo that took out a 055😂

I swear cap should be a sports announcer. You bring so much more energy and excitement and it really enhances the experience of watching these battles. Even the pauses for tea convey how much exited you are.

This is the fight we were all waiting for. Go team UK 🇬🇧 ... i suppose team US can tag along and help a little too.

The chinese losing another ship to the makos at 53:40 and cap not seeing it was too funny, also would love to see a 2030 series

Honestly you could start selling at auctions 😆

Man i sure do love these big Red v Blue carrier battles! Thanks for doing these, it really gives a perspective on what modern pitched naval warfare might potentially look like, which can be hard for many of us as most of it takes place beyond visual range anyway. Showing it in these simulations with this much detail and work put into it is really helpful and greatly fascinating and enjoyable to watch. So Kudos to you man!

Big difference is this, this represents 100% of Russian Carriers, 100% of Chinese Fujians (they could have two more Kuze class carriers)... While only representing 50% of the British QE class and 10% of US Nimitz class (still have a Ford class), so even a perfect trade that costs the "blues" more money is still a strategic victory for the "blues"

The AIM 174 B is in service...the Navy announced it the other day.....they are breaking her in at RIMPAC 2024....These naval battles keep getting better...👉🏻

Never mind the CPU being over worked, I think Cap’s brain had broke by about the time the QE was hit 😂

I wouldn't mind watching a Realistic Naval battle even as just a one off experiment...maybe you can hype it up as a 'war game/simulation' if you want to attract some viewer attention. Or if that's too boring, perhaps some kind of specific mission simulation. Like maybe a coordinated bomber strike against a chinese carrier group, or a one on one surface duel between two surface vessels, or a combined arms operation in support of an amphibious landing, or you know some kind of unique mission setting like that could be pretty cool as well.

Cap had me on the edge of my seat the whole time. This was awesome! Good thing we have 12 carriers.

So, taking into account the whole series, it seems that the Western offence is strongest, with Britain impressing in particular. The Russians also seem to have improved (if only by a little), and the American Mako seems nigh on unstoppable, as does the UK Spear 3 and Spear 5 combo. The semi-ballistic hypersonics like the Zircon and YJ-21 do seem to struggle to get a consistent PK, and maybe that's fairly realistic, what with missile failure rates and jamming. I would love to see Indian, French, Thai and mixed Spanish/Japanese/Italian groups make appearances in battles. Loving the series, can't wait for the next series. I would love to see Type 31e, VLS launched LRASM in particular. Maybe it could be a one-off, but have you thought of trying a series of engagements between CSGs? Many of these carriers can fire their weaponry from much longer ranges - the YJ-21 is a great example. You could have a long range engagement, then use whichever vessels survive (assuming the carrier is still operational) face off in a closer range battle. I'd love to know if this is feasible, if not, don't worry! If I could ask for one thing, I'd love to see a Type 31e frigate for the UK, with CAMM-MR and CAMM-ER dual-packed and quad-packed in its Mk41 VLS respectively. I think that the medium range potential of these weapons could really bolster the British defence, without going as far as to bring in the Type 83s this early. Loving the videos Cap!

Honestly I think the fight would have been a lot more... adrenalin based if USA and China didn't try to engage the supersonics going for their allies. I feel a large majority of the US net was wasted and that was the reason Britain was still able to defend themselves at the end while USA had nothing left. Still a jaw dropping mission, held my breath during parts of it.

28:02 "It's too big, there's too much, it's too pookoo, there's not enough foo foo!" poetry, truly But seriously these battles with Cap's commentary are more exciting than any football game

I'm surprised that the MIG-29s lasted so long, both in operation and in combat

Have you considered an AMBUSH series. For example A not currently war torn Russia launches an attack on Alaska coast to take out material outpost, and or vice versa the US launches an attack on the Crimean peninsula. Similar scenarios could work for locations in the South China Sea. Focus on near peer conflict with overwhelming support. Could be a 2 fold series of Defense and Counter Account to recoup beachheads. Crimean Peninsula could also go with EU surprise attack for a theme as well.

Don't forget if this battle happens far enough away from friendly places to land and you lose the aircraft carrier, you also lose ALL the planes it launched as well.

DCS must not have the best AI because it feels hard to believe that stealth aircraft with longer ranged missiles would ever fall to 4th gen aircraft

The US Navy is trying to field the new MACE anti ship missile by 2027. It’s like a longer range spear 3.

A real US vs China carrier battle would include the USAF B1s and B21s firing tons of Lrasms long before the carriers got in range of each other.

My initial thought is doing the long-range/milsim/tactical battles. It sounds like the 2030s stuff is getting built in the background and ready in the winter, anyways. In this last battle series the 5th gens are sort of programmed to run in to one another, but having AWACS, tankers, maybe some P8s looking for subs between the two carriers while stealth pops in and out would be something new and exciting. Maybe releasing a 30-45 minute action packed video and a full-length director's cut version of those would be nice.

Loved this!! Would like to see the “real life” sim that cap mentioned though. That would be interesting to see how the fleet would really do it. Keep up the stellar work 👍🏻

Nothing I don't like with DCS when it comes to the F-35 is it doesn't use its electronic warfare nor does it use the decoy

This is like watching a sports match. Absolute enjoyment.

Is it too much to ask for both? I'd like to see this series continue, as is, projecting further into the future. But I'd also be interested in more realistic carrier scenarios. Something like, more of the former with a bit of the latter sprinkled in as time allows with no real pressure. Just my 2 cents.

Man i feel like if the US didnt try to intercept for the UK and let them just defend themselves they would have had more SM-6's and might have been able to defeat most of the missiles and saved a few ships. I also find it very odd why the blue team performed that badly in the air to air fight. No way in hell the J-35 is as good as they say and as good as the F-35 and what is with the PL-15 kill percentage vs the blue air to air missiles. Their PL-15 cannot be that much superior in kill per shot.

How is "WORDS AND STUFF AND THINGS ARE HAPPENING" not on a t-shirt?

Oh hell yeah! What a battle! Great work GR, just f;in great. Yes to the 2030 battle! and of course, a realistic one too! You do such great work Cap/GR it's your own fault we want it all :) Luv ya!

That was so much fun to watch. I know that takes a lot of effort and time on your part so thank you very much.

A valued simulation. Cheers!

This was like a knife fight. No one wins, you just loose less.

Cap was spitting absolute BARS! Great job man, rest your voice. You earned it

The video of all videos has arrived!!! Thank you

In a way, this video is super optimistic. It presumes that China and Russua will still have functional economies, that the USA hasn't descended into myopic isolationism, and that the UK still has a functional carrier. Heyo!😅

Outstanding!!!

NGAD and missiles! Definitely want more of these!

Also I did some reading on the specs. the Mako only has a warhead of around 60kg and travels slightly faster than mach 5. This is about the same as the R37, somehow I just don't see how something on the scale of the R37 could actually sink a 80,000ton carrier

There's a book series called Axis of Time, about a modern Carrier fleet being sent back in time to 1942. One of the ships is a French cruiser armed with cruise missile ends up in the hands of the Japanese. In the second book, they use it to disable all the defences at Pearl harbour, leading a way to a Japanese invasion. Would love to see a recreation of that in DCS.

the AIM-9x block 2 is specially built for the f-35 in that it is stealth along with its pylon. tests have shown it doesn't increase RCS at all. is it possible to integrate this into the game?

I don’t watch sports and I just realized this fills that niche in my life. Thanks Cap!🎉

Why no LRASM? They're absolutely going to be in use, and in MUCH greater numbers, in 2027 & beyond. And, apparently, like Constellations will have NSM, Arleigh Burke are to add canister launchers on-deck which can fire LRASM (among other things) to make up for some of the VLS tube difference after all Tico cruisers are fully retired. And how about HALO & HACM? They're both different programs, and both apart from MAKO.

I would personally love to get the realistic battles. It would be very interesting to know how realistic carrier combat works.

Red team: We're winning!, Team America: Rolls up with 10 more carrier strike groups.

I think you should do some videos with smaller battles like it would be interesting to see 1 arleigh Burke go against 1 052 Another idea would be to do a war series where there are different battles and some either lean to the advantage of the US or China and they are tallied to show who would win in the different theaters of war. These could be ground and naval battles and they could be long range or close range. Ex a US submarine engaging with Chinese ballistic missiles that are land based

Great job Cap !!

Alright, hear me out: exact same battle except there are no teams. America vs Britain vs China vs Russia. Mass chaos. Also, this was a very fun video to watch!

I’d personally love to see a one-off throwback to some of your older videos-the CVN v. Star Destroyer ones. They’re part of what brought me to the channel in the first place, so seeing a current or near future carrier group in that scenario would be very cool. Other than that, I’ll vote for the next iteration of carrier battles. It’s not realistic, but it sure is fun to watch.

Not a sports fan but man I was watching this like people watch the Super bowl or the world cup hahaha love this series

Maybe in between the 2030s carrier group and this current iteration. You could do a 90’s carrier group battle US versus Russia, including the Kirov on Russian team and the Iowa on US team. It would just be a fun little throwback.

Enjoyed that!

I have been loving this series I cant wait for the 2028 instalment with new tech such as the AIM-174B, HALO ASM and maybe the Peregrine AAM/ASRAAM for the US

In response to your query, I'd love to see more realistic long-range engagements. Just a thought, maybe they actually wouldn't be so long if you allowed yourself to speed up certain boring periods. I agree the close-up slug fests are cool, but I always find myself wondering how things would turn out with more realistic tactics, as much as you could simulate, anyway. For example (of many) it kills me to see Mako enter theater in small batches after watching China and Russia pretty much throw in everything at once. I think the longer format, if better applied tactics, would be a superior video. But with that said, would you need to ask NCIS for permission? Sorry, couldn't resist. Hope all is well on that front. Thanks for all you do. You are my main media content source. My fav streaming entertainment.

Two things I heard from sources for before 2030: YJ-18 has terminal pull up and Burke III is supposed to be able to carry more ESSMs

Cap, you’ve missed your calling as a Mexican Fũtball commentator. GREEEAAT video!!! This should be made into a movie

Something else thats important to note here. The US has a lot more undamaged CSGs to use again. Thats Russia's only carrier, and China's is irreplaceable. That spells a lot of trouble for the long term for Red here.

2030s CBG battles please! These 2027 ones were insane amounts of fun!

Love it when you get excited!

The carrier point defense should be able to handle a couple of leaked misiles .. rolling air frame (42) essm(16) phalanx(3) great video as always😃

I would love to see a realistic battle, even if it was only a one-off USA+UK vs Russia+China, as it would show a much more accurate image of which nation's gear is better.

That aircraft battle in the beginning was very fun to watch.

Epic…absolutely epic.

UK has: 4 * 48 Aster 30 on Type 45, 192 total 4 * 24 Sea Ceptor on Type 45, 96 total 2 * 48 Sea Ceptor on Type 26, 96 total and 192 total Sea Ceptors 4 * 8 NSM on Type 45, 32 total 2 * 16 SPEAR 5 in Type 26, 32 total 24 * 8 SPEAR 3 on F-35B, 196 total US has: 6 * 6 SM-3 on Arleigh Burke, 36 total 6 * 16 SM-6 on Arleigh Burke, 96 total 6 * 42 SM-2MR on Arleigh Burke, 252 total 6 * 32 ESSM on Arleigh Burke, 192 total 6 * 24 Tomahawk Block VA on Arleigh Burke, 144 total 36 * 4 Mako on F/A-18 E/F, 144 total China has: 2 * 72 HHQ-9B on Type 055, 144 total 4 * 40 HHQ-9B on Type 052D, 160 total and 202 total HHQ-9B 2 * 24 HHQ-10 on Type 055, 48 total 4 * 24 HHQ-10 on Type 052D, 96 total and 144 total HHQ-10 2 * 8 YJ-21 on Type 055, 16 total 2 * 16 YJ-18 on Type 055, 32 total 4 * 16 YJ-18 on Type 052D, 64 total and 96 total YJ-18 30 * 2 YJ-12 on J-15B, 60 total Russia has: 6 * 24 9M96D on Adm. Gorshkov, 144 total 6 * 32 9M100 on Adm. Gorshkov, 192 total 6 * 16 UKSK on Adm. Gorshkov, 96 total 6 * 16 Palash missiles on Admiral Gorshkov, 96 total 15 * 4 Kh-35 on MiG-29KR, 60 total

Who would have thought, Lofoten in the center of so many conflicts. 😅

Awesome play by play! Grim Reapers naval battles is better than any sports match!

After this I'm sending Cap my Prozak Script .. Sounds like He .."NEEDS" it !! 😮😢😂

That was fun! I like the realistic battles Cap.

The thing is that a Russian 2027 carrier group doesn't exist, yesterday the postponed their repair date of the only Russian carrier, the Kuznetzov, it's repairs have been postponed from finishing in 2024 to 2028,

Great battle!

Fantastic series this. Great fun. The only thing I'd say is the Meteor has been nerfed WAY too much.

Damn fine entertainment Cap! Thank you!

I would watch a realistic version of this.

Wanna express my honest appreciation for this excellent entertainment. This is exactly, what I love about sports and commentary. Best regards from Germany

Wooowwwww ..... Truly commendable work on all of those that helped putting this battle together ,, Unbelievable quality in preparation , setting up and running of the battle .... Cap deserves a goddam medal for the narration,,,, Was well worth the almost 54 minutes watching time ...... I'm gobbsmacked at looking at the Scoreboard at the end lol , I cant remember ever seeing that much info on a scoreboard of any of the GR videos I've seen ...... Thank you just isn't enough ........ My Respect and appreciation for all of the work done by the GR Team for providing these videos !!!!

You should either put the two teammates completely out of range of one another or a complete overlap. Too much wasted or duplicated effort.

Grim calls them FLEET DEFENSE fighters. The internet "WhY pLaNe ShOoT aT aNtI sHiP mIsSiLe"

Interesting battle. Great commentary.

Spectacular!

Great video, Cap.

Love the commentary.

I think the future series would be more entertaining, but I really like most of your battles regardless, this one was one of the greats though!

Brilliant final battle for an incredible 2027 series. I like both prospects for the next series. Maybe a 2030 series on a regular schedule and a large scale / realistic battle once a month?

MATE has anxiety issues 😂😂

I'm surprised Cap didn't have a stroke in all of this action! I bet his blood pressure was pegging out. Guze fra ba.....guze fra ba........

Very impressive!

Awesome battle so much boom boom. ❤

Brilliant!

Gotta love how the Hornets get one last MAKO jab in on a Type 55 at the very end

This is the one I've been waiting for!!

I think realistic tactics carrier battle would make a great video and i would love to see. My first thought was the range advantage of the tomahawks, fired from far away long in advance they might not be arriving to the battle so long after the red missiles like in the short range battles. But if its as slow as cap made it out to be it might not be the most watchable series to do every combination of red v blue. Excited to see either way. And definitely looking forward to the 2030's updated carrier groups.

I love how Cap gets so excited that he forgets how to use words...

Thank you Super Cap for all the work you put into these Wargames for us to enjoy! Yoeman's Work indeed!

At 53:45, you mention the RU and PLAN A/C losses. What you fail to consider is that with both the RU and PLAN carriers, done, those surviving planes have nowhere to go, so they should be counted as losses as well.

I like these, they are very entertaining.. Ask some of the other guys to set ( 1 ) realistic Naval battle and see how it goes.. Otherwise I say keep on keeping on..

I favor the more realistic option. Yes, the battles would be slower, but in single player you can just hit the fast forward button. But let me propose a third option... appoint two of the GRs to be the admirals of the opposing fleets and then the two admirals select their battle plans without any knowledge of what the other is doing. Whichever battle plan would happen first gets run in a simulation, the two admirals must then create new battle plans based on the result of that simulation, the first of the new battle plans gets run in the simulation, the two admirals must make new battle plans based on the result of that simulation, etc etc. For example, if I was the admiral in charge of the US fleet going against a Chinese fleet then my first move is to launch a flight of F-35Cs when the fleets are 1,100 miles apart to take out the Chinese AWACS. At that point, I'm out of range of the most dangerous Chinese weapons and if the strike is successful then I have reduced the effectiveness of the entire Chinese fleet. If that battle plan would happen first, it gets run in the simulation. If the strike is successful then the admiral in charge of the Chinese fleet has to make new plans without the benefit of an AWACS.

Brilliant

My prediction at the beginning was the blues would get hit hard in the beginning and would end up winning (which they did, still had Makos going in even as the video ended). Then, as others touched on, the US still has what 9 CSGs left? So yeah, they would win. To answer the question of what we want to see, perhaps you could do both at the same time, a more realistic scenario in 2030's. Rather than it being one big battle, it would be stitched together into smaller battles where the ending of one goes into the beginning of another. So rather than each video starting off at full strength, each would start off with whatever they still have. Sort of a naval campaign, maybe even give control of where different assets go to GR members and videoing where those fights take place. Would be a series I would watch for sure.

I’d love to see either next series. I’d say start with the realistic fights first, once we’re through that then go for 2030’s

I'm up for a couple of realistic carrier fleet vs carrier fleet scenarios. Skew everything to make it as interesting as possible and we're good for 1 or 2 simulations

WOW! Just One Of The Best SIMS Yet!

Come 2027, i dont think Russia will have that many boats on the surface.