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"we don't know much about china's fighter jet.. but ours is WAY better"

Ukraine war is Chinese drones fighting Chinese drones😂😂

If Chinese tech is so inferior why US is so worried about Chinese advancements in this area

So vague. The only thing he was specific about was the cost of the missiles.

as a chinese millitary engineer worked for glory PLA AIRFORCE i can tell you one secrect: J20 burns coal

The F-22 has combat experience vs Chinese spy balloons

So if we don't know much about the J20, how can you claim the F22 is the best and better than the F22?

I lost count of how many wrong statements are being made lol wow

Did these guys do any research? J20 can super cruise without afterburners since last year with their new ws-15 engines and they are far more reliable than the previous ws10 engines

The new WS-15 is a supercruise capable engine and China has already fitted and flown J-20s with ws-15 engine. Of course, this analyst ignored that LMAO

Guy says that there are little known about the J-20 and concludes that the f-22 is superior... Lol

Apples Vs Oranges ....

You’re American of course you would say that!

1. When he talks about Radars he should be talking about how powerful the radars that those jets carry, not how difficult they can be detected by other radars. That's still stealth. J20 has the most advance gallium-based radar. 2. Speaking of maneveurs, he said he didn't have too much data and he said Chinese jets are unimpressive. If you have not enough data, you shouldn't be so conclusive, let alone, so subjective. 3. He is wrong about the engine too. J20 has been equipped with a new and far more power engine WS15. He needs to get his data updated. All in all, he speaks from many subjective opinions based on outdated data, and neglects many key elements. Not a quality video.

I'm sure there's no way this would have been published if we thought China's were superior to ours, and there's also undoubtedly info they aren't sharing here in a public video, but it's still interesting just to hear some interesting tidbits about fighter jets.

I'm more curious about how much of the data both fighters are reliable vs. educated guesses. All countries lie and should lie about their weapon capabilities both overselling and underselling them for various reasons. As well as the fact that I'm sure Chinese government has more detailed info on American weapons and vice versa, but those details are never getting leaked to the public. So it feels like there's not even a point to comparing these fighter jets. Because even beyond their capabilities, their numbers and usage also factor into things. Cause if there is to be a China-US conflict, it would happen with an invasion of Taiwan next door to China, rather than both countries bring all their stuff to middle of nowhere and decide to fight on equal terms.

His conclusion is largely true between the J20 enter the service in 2017 and F22. It is a remarkable win for the U.S , considering F22 entered the service back in 2005. However, J20 has an advantage that , it continued to be produced and improved overtime while F22 production line was closed permanently. There are several iterations after the first batch of J20, notably the new engines WS15 and rumored GaN AESA, this accompanied by the increased production pace (100-120 per year) and better ranged Air to air missile (PL15) . The conclusion of this video may not be so true now.

His wording and lack of technical knowledge makes me think he was a plumber in the navy

1) J20 has much better radar (GaN AESA). During the time F22 was developed, GaN radar hadn't invented yet. 2) J20 has better electronic. The chips on F22 was intel 586 level. 3) J20 has better missile. Before deployment of AIM-260, USA dont have a missile that can match PL15. In the mean time, PLA already has the PL17 ready. 4) J20 certainly can supercruise. The WS10C engine currently equipped on J20 already has the supercruise capability not to mention the WS15. 5) F22 lacks EOTS and EODAS, which are crucial when facing stealth fighter. 6) J20 has much larger range. The only short comings of J20 I can think of are: 1) J20 does not have autocannon 2) J20 does not have the 2D TVC Engine which affect maneuverability. Due to the canard design, maybe J20 does not even need a TVC engine. both of them are less important in BVR fighting.

Funny how everyone in the internet are seasoned military personnel with tons of combat, and strategic experience and s#*7 but in real life less than 1% of population actually joined the Military 😂😂😂.

F-22: the balloon killer

The reality is that the F22 has been discontinued a long time ago, one less when one is broken, and the J20 is being mass-produced. I can understand the American mentality from this comparison.

Oh My God! Are you sure the J-20's maneuverability is mediocre? LOL

The F-22 isn't even the most advanced American stealth fighter. The F-35 while less cool looking and less famous than the F-22 is 10 years newer with more advanced systems. The U.S military also has nearly six times as many F-35s as it does 22s so in a potential conflict between the U.S and China a fight between F-35s and J-20s is a much more likely fight. The AirForce is working on restarting production of F-22s and wants a modernization program but that is a long way.

The glaring lack of research by the speaker woke me up from my half-asleep state.

I thought the retired naval officer could give more detailed data, but it seems that I expected too much.The key Gan radar EOTS EODAS is not mentioned, and the latest mass production of J20 is WS15 engine with higher thrust than higher thrust.😂

In military industry there's no patent rights, before accusing others of stealing, it's better for you to keep your drawings in a safer place.

That’s Starscream

May be he is an INSIDER who knows more than we. One thing I do know F22's max speed is March 2.2 and J20's max speed is march 2.5. Again I got those info from youtube. J20 has greater range to reach. Only way to find out which is better is to have a real fight, airplane to airplane. It seems to me this guy was living in the year 2000 and got no ideas of the latest technology in J20 comparing to 20 years old f22 without any updates.

Wait until he realises the new variants of the J-20 are equipped with the WS-15 engines. These engines have the ability to do super cruise without afterburner, and they are way more powerful.

F-22 was developed decades ago and their pilots are very experienced, us has 180 something fully operational and also the us 6th gen fighter is almost fully operational

It's not even a close comparison.

So you are speaking at length about the F22 but know very little about the Chinese plane. Does this make sense to you???

Like a ship displaces water a plane displaces air. You just gotta know what to look for.

Why people still comparing an 2000s fighter with 2020s fighter...

Keep in mind the F-22 is 14 years older than the J-30 and its replacement is already in the works for 2030.

So the SU-57 is not considered to be a 5th gen stealth fighter?

I worked at Lockheed. I practiced the viper drill bit and sold 600 units.

We don’t know much about the J-20… Proceeds to tell us everything about the J-20 including video😂

Seeing those huge canards on a stealth fighter is hilarious

Very general statements were made; little comparison was done. Disappointing...

China's J20 is really good at flying in formation at airshows.

The sheer number advantage is gonna be the deciding factor.

We have a saying in Korea: "F-22 is for fighting aliens" F-22 >>>> J-20

F-22 tells j-20, I should call you mini-me

F22 are retiring while J20 are deploying 10:11 and upgraded. That says enough.

The F-22 is so advanced with a radar corss section of a honey bee we should make new more modern versions of it, at least a 1000 units.

The goal of China isn't to invade other countries, but primarily to ensure its own safety. If you look at the history of China, you'll find that they don't invade other countries. People talk about Taiwan but even the US acknowledges that Taiwan is a part of China. The US doesn't have the capabilities to defeat China in a head to head should it happen, despite having superior hardware at this point. What the US really should be worrying about isn't having bigger guns, but the economy and the wellbeing of its people. Being $35 trillion in debt means time is running out. The interest alone is in excess of $800 billion a year.

This guy analysis is meant for kintergarden audiences who know nothing about the J20 and F22A. First of all the new J20B w WS15 engines w higher thrust to weight ratio and overall thrust than the PW119. WS10C engine can allow the J20A to supercruise at M1.5 and the new WS15 can allow the J20B to supercruise at M1.8. Besides the guy didn't mention the F22A doesn't helmet mounted sight, can't do network warfare, doesn't have ETOS and Long range infra red detection capabilities..... etc which the J20 have crucial in combat against stealth aircrafts. J20 radar w much more advance T/R modules than the APG77 used by the F22A hence has longer detection range and better anti-jamming capabilities. Besides the PL15 has 50% more range than the AIM120D which means the J20A/B can detect and shoot down the F22A long before the raptor can detect and fire upon the J20, The USAF is betting on NGAD against the J20 and that tells U which is better. LMAO!!!

A bit picky maybe *Radio waves have wavelengths of 1 m up. The frequency at 1 m is 300 MHz.* *Microwaves have wavelengths of 1 mm (millimeter) to 1 m. The frequency at 1 mm is 300 GHz.* *Modern RADAR uses microwave, not radio waves* *TBMD uses SPY-1B/D*

I'd like to know why only 29% of our F35s are operational.

this guy seriously out of date, and still repeat f22 RCS the size of a golf ball, does he have the evidence?

Attack helicopters and CAS are redundant in a near peer confrontation, unless you accept huge casualties.

That twin engine is screaming "im not stealthy" 😂 add when it use afterburners

"....manoveravility is not important... Of" The YF23 should have been chosen. Just looking at that thing was inspiring

This guy gives info what can be easily googled

Please put metric figures on screen. The world uses metric, not Imperial.

says an american analyst

How could you lead to that conclusion with all those comparisons?

I'm gonna give you a hint, the one that's better isn't a stolen copy of the other loool

Original vs Copy

Jeez...half a million dollar per missile is crazy!

The F-22 lags far behind the J-20 in all technical capabilities, such as Stealth(J-20 has used next generation lefthanded metamaterial stealth material), Maneuverability(WS-15 engine performance data is ahead of F-119 engine), Supercruise(1.8 Mach super cruise speed, Maximum speed 2.8 Mach, even 2.55 Mach only with WS-10C engines), Advanced avionics, including low-probability-of-intercept radar (LPIR)(latecomer advantage with third generation semiconductor gallium nitride technology), Networked data fusion, enabling situation awareness on the battlefield(Latecomer advantage, Radar, IRST, EOTS, EORD). And air-to-air missile dual pulse solid fuel engine technology, the PL-15 has a far greater range than that of the AIM-120D. The core processor of the F-22 uses a 500nm technology node PowerPC 603 chip, while the core processor of the F-35 uses a 90nm technology node PowerPC 7448 chip. The core processor of the J-20 is reportedly based on a 28-40nm process chip. The first GaN radar prototype for the U.S. military produced by Raytheon was first installed and tested on April 29, 2021. Therefore, both the F-22's APG-77 radar and the F-35's APG-81 radar are second-generation semiconductor GaAs technology radars. The APG-77 has 1956 T/R modules with a peak power of 20 kW, while the APG-81 has 1676 T/R modules with a peak power expected to be lower than 20 kW (due to second-generation GaAs technology). The J-20's KLJ-5 radar has approximately 2200 receive/transmit T/R modules, with a power output of around 100 kW as reported by the State media CCTV, which can only be achieved by third-generation semiconductor GaN technology power devices. This implies that under equivalent other conditions, the detection range of the J-20 radar could be 50% greater than that of the F-22 and F-35 radars. Consequently, the original plan of the U.S. military to start upgrading the core processors TR-3 and radar APG-85 for the F-35A Block 4 Lot 15-17, which was accelerated to 2023, has now been postponed again, and it is uncertain when the upgrade will enter service. According to CCTV data, the fuel consumption rate of the turbofan WS-15 without afterburner is 0.67 kg/daN/h, and the fuel consumption rate with afterburner is 1.98 kg/daN/h. The fuel consumption rate of the turbofan WS-10C without afterburner is 0.85 kg/daN/h, and the fuel consumption rate with afterburner is 2.2 kg/daN/h. The fuel consumption of the F119 without afterburner is 0.9 kg/daN/h, and with afterburner on it is 2.4 kg/daN/h.

French Rafale 🇫🇷 >>>>>

Bro wheres the SU 57, I get it I hate the enemy but the SU 57 is terrifying unlike the wood built J20s.

These materials are top-notch.

The actual matchup would surprise you. F22s were designed in the 90s with 90s era computers and sensors. They are out of production and are steadily being retired meaning their numbers will dwindle while J20s are still being built and improved upon. The latest version of the J20 has 360 degree infrared sensors that can passively detect other stealth fighters without even having to turn their radars on. Its the same tech used in the F35 which has beaten F22s using just that method. J20s also have a modern datalink which allows it to spot targets for each other and other PLA fighters, F22s have to rely on their own radars to engage targets meaning they can't remain radar silent when attacking. Finally, the age of the airframes also makes a massive difference. Stealth coatings age just like anything else. Worn stealth coatings from 2 decades of use are significantly less stealthy than something fresh out of the factory. Not to mention the J20 was designed using much more modern stealth coatings after seeing the headaches the F22 causes when it comes to maintaining said stealth coating.

We have to admit that, china is doing very well considering how late they have started working on these stealth fighter jets. Russia and US is the first runners and china is the latecomer but growing very fast.

The one from the US is the best ... said the US Navy Veteran.

Next one: NGAD vs J20

0:54 Bro is talking out his butt. Air superiority fights job is not to knock out air defenses, its solely to destroy enemy fighters and to deny the enemy the ability to use the sky. An f22 will never have the job of attacking a sam site. Thats for multirole, ground attack, and electronic warfare aircraft to do.

The j20s rcs is alot higher compared to the raptor. The chinese h20 bomber isn't much better. India radars were able to track the j20

J 20 hasn’t seen any combat while F22 is being phased out for being outdated and too expensive to update making way for the NGAD

Art Of War - 'Never underestimate your enemy'.

F-22 is better

F-22A

The comparation itself evidences FEAR

People forget the f-22 was built in the mid 90’s even if it isn’t at the top, which it still is, it is fighting against technology almost 3 decades more advanced and still winning

these kinds of videos always attract the chinese bots lol no one should lose sleep over China's J20

too bad the F-22 was so expensive that they scrapped most of the orders for hundreds of them and redirected into variations of the F-35

lol western subjective bias against the J20 - by your own admission, you said you don't know much about the J20 and it's all your own guestimates, so how can you fairly compare without knowing all the technical specs of both aircraft??

Depends on the PILOT! 🙄🙄

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Poor explanation. All stealth fighters can be located by low band radar arrays. But they are hard to get a weapon’s grade lock.

Bro why do so many Americans not wanna see their own country win tf💀

Fun fact about J20. In the west China Sea in year 2022, Philippines Air radar defense detected this aircraft in 180 nautical miles in bajudimasinlok island territory of the Philippines. And it was intercept by the Philippines Air Force, by a 4th generation fighter jet which is FA-50. And you know what's more funny our aireal radar defense was bough in the Japan way back in year 90's, and they proclaiming that this is a 5th generation stealth fighter jet even the pilot of the FA-50 have a picture of the jet while intercepting it very stealthy good job China. 😂😂😂

Great video

The J-20 looks cooler than the F-22 IMO, though the F-22 is more iconic.

Raptor needs upgrades. A really impressive jet, which appeared at the wrong time! I would rather say that the F-35 can be compared with the J-20

The true fighter is f-15. Lets say many wars was underwent that aircraft

im not even sure why this two are in the same sentence. just for a sake of making an article, something to talk about?

462s. Them's my boys (and girls). 46270, back from 78 to 89.

Dude tallks like a toddler in middle school giving a presentation.

No matter how better F-22 is, its production line is stopped. But China is building more & more J-20🤣🤣🤣

Which is better? This question is indeterminate for now. No real duel between the two yet. All talks of which is better is at best specious arguments.

A design of fighter jet with canard stolen from the one without it. Lmao😂

Surely both countries and others have weapons none of us know about.

I know that both had great capability but the cost would be so much higher to the United States in war and China had a much cheaper and faster benefit.

Always watching from Georgetown Guyana south America 🇬🇾🇬🇾

F22 is i386 in the last century and stops production. Where is the comparison?