Why do Americans commentators talk so bloody much, you can’t hear the Ref, and most of the time what they are saying has nothing to do with the action on the pitch.
As an American I agree. Their vocabulary is bad too. I've noticed British commentators do a better job describing the play. For me this is why the Euros this year was more exciting than watching Copa.
agreed, I think it has something to do with most, if not all American sports. You don't hear from the refs much. So the commentators have to "fill the silence". I much prefer how the non-American commentators do it.
I started playing college rugby in 1993 in Washington. I then played club until 1998. Back then when Dan Lyles not only started for Bath but became captain we really thought that the top of tier 2 or the bottom of tier 1 was achievable in 20 years. It's been 30 years and I really don't see better results from the Eagles. This is frustrating because we have players in the top two leagues in both the UK and France. We have our own league as well. But losing to Romania and not qualifying for the WC is just mindblowing to me. Much smaller countries have come from behind and passed us. I keep hoping something will click but we seem stuck or slightly sliding backwards. I'll never forget listening to a UK sports reporter recapping the 2011 WC and saying about the US, "When you watch the speed and size of the US players you have to think if they ever figure this game out we can all go back to playing darts." One can dream.
It has taken Italy a lot of years to be competitive in the 6 nations. Similarly, the Georgians too, have taken time to come good. Fiji were always brilliant in Sevens and it has taken time for them to be strong in the 15 game. It is a pity the Churchill Cup is still not going. Seeing American re-actors to Rugby, it would appear that the game is of interest to a USA audience.
@@Pebble3007 our players are getting better but there doesn't seem to be an overall plan to elevate the Eagles that's working. Argentina focused on their forwards and badass scrummaging before their backs caught up. Georgia looked at them and did the same. Fiji and all the islands have focused on taking what makes them so formidable in 7s and trying to move it to 15s. Italy poached players who couldn't make regular spots on other teams and played those European powers as much as possible both in test and in club rugby. Obviously, I'm just an observer who played decades ago but I swear our teams are getting smaller in physical presence. Even if we're lagging in skills shouldn't the US have the biggest, strongest, fastest team out there? It's what we do best. We excel at making giant humans that can hit things. If we were just as competitive as Japan I'd be happy. At least we're not Canada. Their governing body has destroyed all the progress they made in the past.
@@peterchase5198 I think you hit the nail on the head. All of the best athletes that would be beasts in Rugby are just going to Football. The entire system is structured that way; American Football is accessible in the States, Rugby is not. And why would you want to to pursue a sport with little presence and no money? NFL (and even college now) pays much much better than the MLS.
@@Greengeist05 Unfortunate for U.S rugby but true. If U.S rugby attracted athletes of the afore mentioned quality the rest of the rugby world would be in for a tough test. Would love to see that sort of team vs the Boks, that would be very tasty.
😂 most pitches are fake grass now, gone are the days of actual mud baths!! White shirts stay white 😱 I will say, though, grass burns from fake grass are WAY worse
.....I am very please that the Eagles are giving it a go...respect the effort...start with the schools as an alternative sport and slowly build up...these things don't happen overnight...rugby playing nations will be killed at baseball..so understand the process.. 😉🎉
Also - I thought American football was becoming less popular with parents in schools because of injury possibilities - rugby is/could be worse, but is a great way to instill respect in young people. I'd say rugby is better for young poeple development in school, more than soccer or USA football. But yeah, talent pools for national side starts in schools, then uni, then clubs, then national, takes time to build the national side. Most best world players have started at 6-12 years old and come thru.
Good learning curve for the US - once it develops more in schools & colleges as an recognised alternative to NFL then it'll really take off - they're already getting a stronger sense of the culture around rugby and they're enjoying that.
@@blackflamesolutions526this was a better team they played arguably. Also, teams fluctuate. The guys haven’t had any time together either. Things come with time.
@@jaysummers9396 go respond to my other comment. 😂 straight folded you like a chair over there. You don’t even know what you’re talking about. It’s embarrassing.
There's a lot about development in this comment section. I played college back in the mid 90s on the West Coast and people barely knew what rugby was. Today in San Diego we have a professional team playing in our new stadium, and there are well-organized youth clubs with excellent coaching for families to choose from. As a teacher I see multiple students of mine play and attend the pro matches. This generation of 4th n 5th-grade kids I believe will be the ones to change the game as far as competition goes. I'm not claiming they will win the World Cup but they will be our first "rugby native" players.
People are being quite disrespectful to the USA team. They are a VERY new team. This is how many tier 1 nations started. This is basically the first generation of pro rugby, this experience will help them build from the grass roots
@@blackflamesolutions526 I guess they can just throw more money and more people at any sport than the rest of the world, so it'd be sad to see them overtake the poorer nations like Tonga and Uruguay who just don't have the resources, but I just feel like rugby spreads good vibes, and the USA could do with some
@@ChristbaitRising That was outside the international window with all their Europe based players unavailable. It was a pointless fixture, the only purpose of which was ticket revenue.
That's the biggest flaw of International Rugby, the top 10-12 nations almost play exclusively between themselves! Too hard for other nations to improve without playing the bests...
I’m very much aware that it is just waiting to happen, when there is sufficient money behind it. American has such a mix of body types within its mix, that they have the potential to develop the perfect team mix. There is a lot to happen before that ever happens, but in the mean time it is good to watch how the game is developing in niches around the world.
Listening to US commentators is weird in rugby, sorry USA, most rugby commentry is less, and as someone else said, listen to the ref mic more is good. Great to see USA getting into rugby, getting better and better.
Good effort from the US even though it's hard learnings here, hopefully they'll improve prior to the revamped PNC with really hard games coming from the pasifika teams and Japan.
Furthermore, the American need for a "hydration break" is absolutely ridiculous. There's plenty of time in a match to get water. We all know it's a bullshit excuse for advertisements.
Strong effort from Scotland, but disappointing from the Eagles. If anything, they seem to be going backwards right now. Hopefully this is merely a phase in their rebuilding programme.
I know your country is in a really sh*t state, but over hyping your rugby team and mocking others isn't going to improve things. Ps. Springboks just lost to Ireland.
No wonder Americans don't know the roles of rugby the commentators talk constantly so you can't hear the calls and rationale of the ref for what the fouls are
I believe the US population is around 325 million. Scotland's population is 5.5 million, about the same as South Carolina. Rugby is maybe the 5th or 6th most played sport in Scotland, and there are a mere 8-9k senior players to pick a national team from (by comparison, England has around 175K senior players). So America, that's the rough background to the small European Nation that has just soundly beaten you at rugby in your own backyard. From what was on display during this match I think it's fair to say the US doesn't have a mountain to climb, more like a mountain range! Let the vitriol begin?
Scotland has heritage access to dozens of professional players in NZ, England and Australia, and its pro clubs attract young talent from SA who qualify on residency. Population size is less important than 'access to foreign based players' in modern rugby.
Many of the rugby nations have different qualification criteria for players. Certainly in Scotland you can qualify as long as your parents/grandparents were born there,or by residence having lived in the country at least 3 years. You can even play for other countries at younger levels,as long as not for Test level
If America threw some spare change at their local Rugby league, they'd be able to stack it with excellent South African and Islander rugby players. Like Scotland, England, Ireland and France do. Good way to quickly up local skill, then you can start bringing through local talent.
There is a development team in Major League Rugby (Anthem). They are the future. Several will be playing in the U20 championship against Scotland on Wed. That is the real story. The Eagles team yesterday was a mix of players who will soon retire and others who will work to qualify for 2027.
Not all bad for the U.S. but if the team is truly building for the future, why cap a 37 year old for the first time? Seems a strange selection. Also, maybe it’s time to thank AJ McGinty for his service and move on from him. He cost us the match last week, missed two makable kicks, either of which would have won the match, missed a makable kick in this match, had a bad knock on that led to a Scotland try, misplayed a restart then instead of kicking, passed to a player who got pounced on immediately and a penalty resulted. To top it off, he tapped and went on his own when the U.S. could have had a second try. The result? He got isolated and turned the ball over. Some of the officiating was uneven, as is often the case when tier 2 nations go up against tier 1’s. It would not have impacted the outcome but would have reduced the penalty count. Glad to see the US kept Scotland to 2 tries in the second half. Still, far too many unforced errors.
All the US college`s are teaching them how to play grid iron which is a very stop start game compared to its old dad rugby,which has to be learned at schoolboy level and played competitively consistently for years to get players that can compete at the highest levels of rugby,cant just take a bunch of failed line backers and not expect them to get creamed on the rugby pitch.
They were frequently penalized in the ruck (questionable at times) so we’re not as aggressive after losing a player to the bin. Attack opportunities were infrequent to say the least but they scored a nice try while down a man.
Scotland didn’t do anything special. They just survived on USA giving away penalties. If USA could tighten that up they’d have given them a much closer game
USA gave away penalties because they were desperate to slow down Scottish ball and block the wide passing channels. They had two choices, give away the penalties and get hammered, or play clean and potentially face a record defeat.
the USA Eagles handling errors is far to high in both international games against Romania and Scotland ilI disciplined to many mistakes at the set pieces simple stupid mistakes they are costing the eagles big time MLR level of rugby does not work at international test level its faster and quicker and stronger bigger hits at test level rugby come on America get it together like the US rugby commentary said these USA eagles rugby players are playing in the MLR and now they the USA Eagles are gonna be playing for the first time ever 9 tests that is a lot per year for USA Rugby about time it will improve the Eagles rugby side and look at The USA u 20s rugby side 15s they are really good in fact they are playing a lot better then the Eagles the u 20 there playing a good brand of rugby there the up and coming players who will represent The USA Eagles in the rugby World Cup in 2031 they look shape they have some very good kickers and the speed they play at and there running lines and passing game is very good and they have power in the scrum and the line outs there set pieces there still young ill be keeping my eyes on this team Scott Lawrence the coach during these 9 tests this year should be blooding these u20 USA players into The USA Eagles right now it will give them more international test rugby experience 8 to 7 years out from the 2031 rugby World Cup on American home soil and give them a go into the Major League Rugby teams and put them into playing there rugby in New Zealand NPC Rugby and Super Rugby sides and in Australia super rugby sides and in Japan top league and English premiership rugby French top 14 Rugby United Championship and playing rugby in South Africa these USA u20 will be playing in the top professional comps all over the rugby playing world
@@jaysummers9396 we’re gonna dominate the Olympics. If our best athletes played a year of rugby we could probably win a World Cup. No country has better athletes than us.
@@frontierlandfrank5314 Hahaha what are you talking about? Firstly, the United States has been playing international rugby since 1912, so your argument is laughable, the last time United States played England you got beaten by 99 points 😂 and finally, the United States rugby team is full of professional English and French Premier league players and athletes, so clearly you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, the United States rugby team is a joke. And as for the Olympics, I fully expect a country with a population of 350 million and the biggest Olympics team budget in the world to do well. Having said that, you were well beaten in the winter Olympics by Norway 😂😂😂..
@@jaysummers9396 you’re not the brightest jay. Let me try and explain. The only reason everyone was playing my rugby that year is because football (nfl) was temporarily banned in the country. They weren’t even training for the sport and still won. Rugby is number 2 in England. Rugby isn’t even top 10 here. And no the team is not full of professional players from England and France. There’s less 6. Most play in the MLR, our domestic league. No govt money goes into our Olympic teams bozo. They’re all privately funded by the bodies in charge of each sport.
@@frontierlandfrank5314 Oh dear, you're not very bright, are you? Let me enlighten you further, regardless of excuses the United States has still had an international rugby team since 1912, and when you got thrashed by England that was in 1999, 25 years ago, and yet today you're still no better, and furthermore, every player in the United States rugby team is a professional athlete, if you had any better athletes at rugby they would be in the team, wouldn't they? And finally, i never mentioned government, did i? So you clearly have reading comprehension issues, I just stated that as a whole the United States Olympic team has the biggest budget, which is a fact 🤔 it's entirely up to you if you want to keep commenting and embarrassing yourself further, but then, as an American that's not hard to do....
The eligibility rules are ridiculous. Very few in the "Scottish" team are actually Scots, so I think it appropriate the Scottish national anthem wasn't heard.
Only 2 of the starting team qualified on residency. Of the other 13 only 4 were born outwith Scotland, all with Scottish parents or in Tuipulotu's case Scottish grandparents
Those are the rules, nearly every international team has foreign born players, including the top ones like Ireland, England etc who have thousands more rugby players to choose from, Scotland has a very small player pool. Personally I think there should be a limit though, currently there are too many.
Nz sa and and the islands basically make up the worlds best players Ireland would be fecked without it's 4 kiwis in the team, they were just like Wales and Italy losers until they got some kiwis
@@PatrickKelly-lz3pv We have to admit, it is good for AMERICA if other nations help to expand the game, Rugby Union remains one of the most BEAUTIFUL and technical games on planet earth.
