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Use THIS tactic to beat Axl zoners in Guilty Gear Strive! 

jmcrofts
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Since I got Celestial with Axl, a lot of people have asked me how to deal with the character's fullscreen zoning tactics and his powerful anti-air combos. This guide should help you learn the matchup and get in on Axl players more effectively!
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@justbanana9563
@justbanana9563 3 года назад
As an Axl main I encourage you to forget everything you've seen here
@clocken7635
@clocken7635 3 года назад
I got you bro
@robertwood1689
@robertwood1689 3 года назад
It's ok as an I-no main I'll just hold db in the corner and cry myself to sleep lmao
@cactuz116
@cactuz116 3 года назад
My brain has been washed
@jcal8738
@jcal8738 3 года назад
Hilarious...
@alejandrogomez1698
@alejandrogomez1698 3 года назад
As a May main I'll make sure to engrave this into my memory for life
@BunyMagnet
@BunyMagnet 3 года назад
JM: "It's easy, just airdash and doublejump creatively to counter him!" Me: *cries in Nago main*
@gaelcuevas3612
@gaelcuevas3612 2 года назад
Me: *dies in Goldlewis main*
@grasstastic9922
@grasstastic9922 2 года назад
It’s easy, just don’t fight axl’s at all lol. I feel you brother
@gj4312
@gj4312 2 года назад
Potemkin...
@NoobyNoon
@NoobyNoon 3 года назад
This was an 8 minute buildup to explain why he got bodied by this May.
@lounasty69
@lounasty69 3 года назад
Underrated comment lol
@LadyMorrigan
@LadyMorrigan 3 года назад
How to beat Axl: wait for him to timestop teabag you and then punish 😂
@NeoBoneGirl
@NeoBoneGirl 3 года назад
Oh, little side note! Potemkin actually does have a double jump
@alejandrogomez1698
@alejandrogomez1698 3 года назад
Always forget he has one
@11shoopdawhoop
@11shoopdawhoop 3 года назад
Huh, I didn't know that actually. Who besides nagoriyuki has no double jumps anyway...? 🤔
@goldsage4722
@goldsage4722 3 года назад
@@11shoopdawhoop its just nago. He can only super jump
@11shoopdawhoop
@11shoopdawhoop 3 года назад
@@goldsage4722 Aha, thank you.
@masonroyal36
@masonroyal36 3 года назад
I just wanted to say that love your fighting game content! I was hooked in by your DBFZ content, but now your Guilty Gear videos are addicting! Glad to see you enjoying other games, hope you go big!
@ilyas1702
@ilyas1702 3 года назад
Thank you! My brother in law is an Axl main and has been labbing a lot since the game came out. I am a total newbie to GG and only got it a week ago, so this is a huge help.
@Acryte
@Acryte 3 года назад
"Unless you're playing Nagoriyuki or Potemkin" *plays Nagoriyuki and Potemkin.*
@Ironpecker
@Ironpecker 3 года назад
Another man of culture
@I_Burger
@I_Burger 3 года назад
Pain
@ducklenin8161
@ducklenin8161 3 года назад
you can stall in the air with j.d as Nagoriyuki
@ReezyDoesIt
@ReezyDoesIt 3 года назад
@@ducklenin8161 Yeah and get hit on your way down
@MoluskToeCheese
@MoluskToeCheese 3 года назад
Youre spoiiling us with dope content this is wonderful
@Napstablooky
@Napstablooky 3 года назад
Not having a traditional airdash as faust hurts vs Axl
@Lanzetsu
@Lanzetsu 3 года назад
Use double jump instead airdash with Faust or the Rod from far away to punish
@Crescent-Adam
@Crescent-Adam 3 года назад
@@Lanzetsu Rod is waaaay too slow in the Axl matchup. Axl is either Faust's worst matchup or second worst after Chipp. If the Axl is throwing a lot of Rensen punish with scarecrow. Your best get in tool I believe is j2k as much as it's a meme move for how bad it is in Strive, it changes the Arc of your approach dramatically and gets you in. Super jump into dash swim then dive with j2k or jump into j2k immediately etc to vary it. Mix that with running in on the ground. If the Axl is offensive and jumping at you try to run under or jHS air to air. Save your meter for scarecrow to get in (S scarecrow block/hit Red RC or S scarecrow cancel RC into command grab)
@Jermel456
@Jermel456 3 года назад
I can’t remember which game it was. I want to say it was SF4, but you could change the voice of each character individually, which I thought was an amazing thing to do. Because I loved having japanese ryu and American ken. I also prefer sagats American voice as well.
@ezngen9182
@ezngen9182 3 года назад
Sfv is the latest game with this exact thing, and I haven’t seen any other game do it since...
@seanmowsthelawn9074
@seanmowsthelawn9074 Год назад
it’s in umvc3, not sure about vanilla mvc3
@Ishpeck
@Ishpeck 3 года назад
This is the kind of Crofts video I love. Well done.
@capefeather
@capefeather 3 года назад
It's kind of funny how the Korean dub is getting more air time than the English dub
@tongpoo8985
@tongpoo8985 3 года назад
The english dub is god awful. Korean is pretty dope
@NeoBoneGirl
@NeoBoneGirl 3 года назад
Cuz the English dub is bad lol
@cactuz116
@cactuz116 3 года назад
Axl’s english voice is easily the worst, no hate to octopimp
@Promathia24
@Promathia24 3 года назад
6:32 As an Axl main who regularly plays against a Potemkin, I can confirm that Potemkin in fact has an double jump
@TheHappyColour
@TheHappyColour 3 года назад
Great vid! Wondering if you have any additional tips if you play I-No? Unfortunately because of her dash always putting her in the air it removes that as a potential approach option against Axl. Also her air dash angles her downwards which tends to put her right into the 'smack me with the sickle' zone! Hahaha! Right now I try to use Stroke the Tree as an alternative to dash when on the ground and focus more on double jumps when trying to move in, every once and a while throwing a psycho crusher in there to change my approach angle.
@abigdingus2409
@abigdingus2409 3 года назад
Super helpful tips, this character is nutty! JM you're the man
@tracepalmatier9696
@tracepalmatier9696 3 года назад
You covered this, but at the beginner level, the number one thing that helped me is to look for Axl to whiff a button/special move, then just run the hell in and block. You (and the Axl player, probably) will be surprised how close you can get before he recovers from most things, especially if you use the dash macro.
@abovefreezing
@abovefreezing 2 года назад
Thanks this was super helpful
@gavin_is_gavin6292
@gavin_is_gavin6292 3 года назад
of course this video comes out *after* you get to celestial :P
@jmcrofts
@jmcrofts 3 года назад
Had to give myself a chance ;)
@SparadoTCG
@SparadoTCG 2 года назад
As a jacko main that's relatively new to the game, this video was a life saver
@juzy1022
@juzy1022 3 года назад
this has helped a lot mate 😀
@jubjubbers
@jubjubbers 3 года назад
Bless you sir, bless you.
@thegloop5018
@thegloop5018 3 года назад
5:33 the axl can actually try to catch you with a c.S at that range or even 5H if they're feeling especially yolo
@happycamperds9917
@happycamperds9917 3 года назад
One thing to note: You don’t want to block the air Rensen follow up but FDing it is very good. You are still a bit minus but due to Axl’s slow buttons and the throw invul you might as well be plus.
@MaxClyde
@MaxClyde 3 года назад
really appreciate this
@123123s3
@123123s3 3 года назад
now how does nago get in? I can only assume I have to sacrifice blood to do so.
@brucepollock2271
@brucepollock2271 3 года назад
Me as a potemkin player "I don't have dash!"
@jmcrofts
@jmcrofts 3 года назад
Armored Fullscreen special move
@Acryte
@Acryte 3 года назад
@@jmcrofts I think rensen can knock you out of it tho
@mythicalsuperdolphins2955
@mythicalsuperdolphins2955 3 года назад
@@Acryte it does
@kusanagi3579
@kusanagi3579 3 года назад
@@Acryte I think he's saying use Slidehead to punish him if he uses another grounded attack.
@brucepollock2271
@brucepollock2271 3 года назад
@@jmcrofts You said dash in ways X, Y, Z. Potemkin doesn't have access to those X, Y, Z, dashes. Hammerfall isn't unstoppable by Axel, and Slidehead is only a knockdown. I don't think it even does damage.
@otgrey3927
@otgrey3927 3 года назад
Next video :"Oh no! He KNOWS!!"
@MrAgentIncognito
@MrAgentIncognito 3 года назад
1:20 Unless Axl does the delayed follow-up, that version is plus.
@1brownhornet1
@1brownhornet1 3 года назад
vertical jump kick into axl bomber for straight up jumps
@readysetshrimps2986
@readysetshrimps2986 3 года назад
what does May say instead of Charge or Totsugeki? PONITA!
@francisholt8685
@francisholt8685 3 года назад
I am at 9F…I play Faust. I have not ran into many Axel’s, but when I do, getting into range 0 against them, they are not to good at blocking…but extremely good on offense.I guess they are not accustomed to opponents getting into range 0, so it’s hard to adjust to blocking, but again, I haven’t fought many Ax’s. Great guide, this is needed. I will keep this in my mem bank.
@hourglas
@hourglas 3 года назад
I main Axl and honestly he doesn't have many options up close. His 5K is his fastest normal and 5P is slightly slower. So usually a 5K 2K mix into dust is all he's got. Or he can YellowRC to get his footing back.
@dolore.-9123
@dolore.-9123 3 года назад
As an Axl player thx for the advice 😏
@vangisbeef3451
@vangisbeef3451 3 года назад
You have revealed our secrets. No beans on toast for you..
@RandoBox
@RandoBox 3 года назад
11:17 - what does May say in Korean? Bonita?
@rogerhogg8899
@rogerhogg8899 3 года назад
Whelp thanks JM. Time for me to find a new main 😫
@roikukorominet4441
@roikukorominet4441 3 года назад
I am not (yet) an axl player but what about jump back j.S? Seems to me like a good option when you're at mid range
@ZhouTie47
@ZhouTie47 3 года назад
It’s a very good option, but it has a blind spot when the enemy is close to you. So keep an eye out if you think they’re going to run in to get under your j.S. Also it can combo into j.214H at the right ranges, otherwise it can still work as a natural frametrap but it’s very minus on block.
@tylercafe1260
@tylercafe1260 3 года назад
@@ZhouTie47 Hes talking about IAD back j.S which covers close range approaches. Makes the opponent feel more forced to jump to approach you. j.S and his 2H are great pressure tools to force reactions
@ArcticWolfGod
@ArcticWolfGod 3 года назад
I assume this "just dash" stuff works so some extent, but couldn't you have chosen a more regular run speed character to show these things with? I can't really take this seriously when you show the example with Gio's instant dash.
@ArcticWolfGod
@ArcticWolfGod 3 года назад
@Spooky Ghost wat? Seriously, your comment makes no sense.
@Cyberia_yt
@Cyberia_yt 2 года назад
Nice air dash, do it with nago.
@l3dllucky442
@l3dllucky442 3 года назад
playing zato so do i just ff?
@potatochobit
@potatochobit 3 года назад
did you try to get in with totsugeki?
@fXoKDM
@fXoKDM 3 года назад
I'm great video bro keep up the great work bro
@CoulAsaGhoul
@CoulAsaGhoul 3 года назад
What if youre playing ino?
@KodieRussell
@KodieRussell 3 года назад
Desperately combing the comments for an answer to this question
@december12twok12
@december12twok12 3 года назад
What about Nago, tho?
@Mrkrillis
@Mrkrillis 3 года назад
Knowledge check
@Fisdren
@Fisdren 3 года назад
I am now resfusing to zone and will only aggressively charge people at mid screen... CELESTIAL HERE WE COME!
@LegendaryJiggXV
@LegendaryJiggXV 3 года назад
Lol, I was getting my shit off on Axl's without this knowledge, so it's a wrap for sure now.
@yoyomonkey7986
@yoyomonkey7986 3 года назад
Bring it lol
@emporerron6823
@emporerron6823 3 года назад
Ok but I’m an I-no main so I need a lil tutorial for her cus I’m really confused
@G-Nius87
@G-Nius87 3 года назад
Potemkin DOES have a double jump!
@swolsauce9923
@swolsauce9923 3 года назад
As a I-no player axl is my kryptonite.
@UrsaFlare
@UrsaFlare 3 года назад
I got my butt kicked by an Axl on stream today and this video came out today I feel called out 😭😭
@Liev04
@Liev04 3 года назад
I noticed that you can teleport with nago when axl uses 5p , 2p for some reason
@thegoose8663
@thegoose8663 3 года назад
When Nago teleports his hitbox becomes similar to his crouching state. So you can dash under 5P (at some distances) and 6K. You can't dash through 2P.
@fuhat1040
@fuhat1040 3 года назад
Tips for his 5k?
@Sparklesniff
@Sparklesniff 3 года назад
Korean May is music to my ears.
@Epsidawn
@Epsidawn 3 года назад
JM should do a reaction to the recently announced Nickelodeon Smash bros fighting game!!!!!!
@feri7mble
@feri7mble 3 года назад
Not all the rensen followups are extremely minus, he can delay the explosion and be much better on block.
@PiKayDaps
@PiKayDaps 3 года назад
Now that my opponents have seen this video they won't expect me to point blank Winter Mantis them. Will it work? No. But it's about making them throw all their knowledge out of the window before wailing on them.
@demilung
@demilung 3 года назад
Having Axl as my off character, this feels like high treason...
@NinjaGuyDan_
@NinjaGuyDan_ 3 года назад
better than hearing TOTSUGEK-TOTSUGEKIIIIII
@vaguepepper4028
@vaguepepper4028 3 года назад
potemkin does have a double jump
@NamNguyen-kp1xu
@NamNguyen-kp1xu 3 года назад
Need a clip of Nago fighting Axel, May is too good against Axl with a natural dolphin that auto bridge the gap and + on block
@yahlibar6832
@yahlibar6832 3 года назад
Hotashi made a great video on nago vs axl matchup
@Ironpecker
@Ironpecker 3 года назад
As nago when you block and have meter you can fukyou (235k) into blue dash rc and you can cover full screen pretty much
@yungshoehorn8940
@yungshoehorn8940 3 года назад
Bruh can we get some anti nago tips then
@michel0dy
@michel0dy 3 года назад
Fun fact: Axl actually has some good close range damage with S S HS Snail Do not get in -an Axl player
@themysteriousstranger7692
@themysteriousstranger7692 2 года назад
Korean may sounds wayy too chill it felt wrong
@johnm4397
@johnm4397 3 года назад
talk about something we dont already know
@kingdiddlydee7856
@kingdiddlydee7856 3 года назад
As an axl player. Dis true
@imtiaze642
@imtiaze642 3 года назад
As a Nago player this was useless 😭
@chickrepelant
@chickrepelant 2 года назад
OOFA DOOFA
@NinjaGuyDan_
@NinjaGuyDan_ 3 года назад
Also, "oofa doofa" lol
@doomskunk
@doomskunk 3 года назад
I wish the recovery on Hammerfall would be faster, Axl is so annoying as pot
@dieckmantenir7843
@dieckmantenir7843 3 года назад
GG 101
@demacry
@demacry 3 года назад
I don't even think this May has some godly knowledge about this matchup. He just kept altering his approach and you guessed wrong enough times that he took the win. May vs Axl is so frustrating because literally all the power is in Axl's hands. If Axl loses it's because he messed up, there's no proactive pressure May can apply. She just has to keep running in and hope she can juke the Axl. If she does get in she absolute has to 100-0 Axl or neutral gets reset to full screen, if she gets hit at any point while going in neutral gets reset to full screen. Fighting Axl is just an exercise in frustration, winning vs him is cathartic, not fun.
@zato-1766
@zato-1766 3 года назад
May downplayers on a whole other level man.
@275dpr
@275dpr 3 года назад
Explain this to me like I'm a Potemkin main
@HellecticMojo
@HellecticMojo 3 года назад
Cry
@nothingimpossible9450
@nothingimpossible9450 3 года назад
plz theres no advice for pot players in matchups i dunno wat to do
@jmcrofts
@jmcrofts 3 года назад
Try to flick rensen, then when he's scared to throw it out use hammerfall to go through his other moves
@nothingimpossible9450
@nothingimpossible9450 3 года назад
@@jmcrofts is flicking rensen on reaction a thing? i never thought to try that lemme go check this out.
@jmcrofts
@jmcrofts 3 года назад
@@nothingimpossible9450 from Fullscreen you can react, but the real trick is to watch for when he has charge
@angelicambyence
@angelicambyence 3 года назад
Goood He didn't talk about the j.S. I still have my ace in the hole. :3333 XD
@tylercafe1260
@tylercafe1260 Год назад
"If you block a Rensen he can't do another" As a Level 3700 Axl player this advice alone carried me because it made everyone else not realize Axl can in fact jail you into another Rensen! It's around +19 😅 Also talking about a zoner without discussing his chip damage? Damn no wonder I've been cooking. Y'all were taught wrong
@eltongovada9645
@eltongovada9645 2 года назад
When you play nago and half of this stuff doesn't apply to you D:
@REALDannyVsTheWorld
@REALDannyVsTheWorld 3 года назад
Thanks now I will learn a character that gives Axl a hard time for the counter pick like Chipp or Millia
@yoyomonkey7986
@yoyomonkey7986 3 года назад
Personally for me ky crushes my axl 9 times out of 10. And he is easy to learn so he might be good too
@that1zombi3kid
@that1zombi3kid 3 года назад
@@yoyomonkey7986 which is odd bcs I feel like Axl bodies that matchup
@yoyomonkey7986
@yoyomonkey7986 3 года назад
@@that1zombi3kid he might lol im just not good at it. I need a ky that I can lose against hundreds of times so I can learn. For some reason I can't use training mode very well its just boring to me.
@that1zombi3kid
@that1zombi3kid 3 года назад
@@yoyomonkey7986 I feel ya man. Maybe it's just me cuz my ky gets utterly destroyed vs Axl but idk seems consistent. Also dude ya and setting up each situation in training mode can take awhile to lab out.
@yoyomonkey7986
@yoyomonkey7986 3 года назад
@@that1zombi3kid you play pc? I might be able to help you out with axl
@chrisbalousjr9592
@chrisbalousjr9592 3 года назад
Great, red light green light the video game
@theconfectionist5600
@theconfectionist5600 3 года назад
Axl mains watching this to prevent all the tips
@GuppiAttack
@GuppiAttack 3 года назад
As Zato even with these tips this MU feels horrible
@Liev04
@Liev04 3 года назад
3:34 axl cant hit gio with his 5p wtf...she is standing
@OblitusAquila
@OblitusAquila 3 года назад
She's definitely one of his natural counterpicks. Her plus frames dominate Axl.
@asrieldreemurr1918
@asrieldreemurr1918 3 года назад
pot has a double jump
@Stingrays110
@Stingrays110 3 года назад
As an Axl player: delet this
@kikook222
@kikook222 3 года назад
Potemkin has a double-jump. He just can't dash or air dash. I know you know this I just want other people in the chat to know since you misspoke.
@kanathedragon1195
@kanathedragon1195 3 года назад
Anti Lil Bussy Man tech
@Osagri
@Osagri 3 года назад
For pot players, flick the rensen and hf(b) in. And if u didint know, if they wake up super and u block the first hit u can jump over the second and BUSTAAAH hes ass. Also every hkd u get, do hf(b). Dont mf
@johnhurley8918
@johnhurley8918 3 года назад
Sooooo... mixups
@armandogarcia93
@armandogarcia93 3 года назад
But remember guys the best tactic to get in on axe body spray players is to just not play against them
@ssgcheddar5785
@ssgcheddar5785 3 года назад
Axl main here! Don't tell people this stuff plz! It's hard enough fighting only Ram Chipp May and Sol! JK BTW 😜
@l30URN3
@l30URN3 3 года назад
Is all a problem character for the community?? He’s the only character I understand and I don’t think he’s that broken, like solid 7/10 in comparison to the top tier characters in strive. I wouldn’t think beating him would need a break down
@feri7mble
@feri7mble 3 года назад
Some characters require specific match-up knowledge, that doesn't mean they are particularly strong. Blanka has pretty much never been high tier in mainline SF games but you still have to study the match-up to beat him.
@l30URN3
@l30URN3 3 года назад
@@feri7mble so I’m correct in my assumption I’m not maining a top tier character, just a character who needs studying so you can beat his move set? That sounds accurate
@enaidiZ
@enaidiZ 3 года назад
I play potemkin, none of this helps me
@MineCraftModsFinder
@MineCraftModsFinder 2 года назад
please kill me. i’ve been trying to beat very hard bot axl for an hour. the score is 5-15. axl has 15. please save me. i just wanna beat him as giovanna. this is my main. axl is too overpowered please help.
@desenhista12
@desenhista12 3 года назад
Thanks, I play I-no and I was getting smoked by Axl in the tower
@CoulAsaGhoul
@CoulAsaGhoul 3 года назад
As an ino player too, i think its just a terrible matchup.
@1brownhornet1
@1brownhornet1 3 года назад
nope that wont work why chill axl players just need to use reggie slash which animation has a bigger hit box than people think
@danielcanavan-gosling5118
@danielcanavan-gosling5118 3 года назад
Reggie slash?
@StubenhockerElite
@StubenhockerElite 3 года назад
Axl is always just one airdash away from getting blown up.
@cxg1
@cxg1 3 года назад
What ab the Nago mains 😭
@jmcrofts
@jmcrofts 3 года назад
Use 214H a lot that movie bodies Axl
@Pine2142
@Pine2142 3 года назад
Watching this as an Axl main to know what to look out for lol
@amarmyape8265
@amarmyape8265 3 года назад
So Nago is just fucced
@mrgameandmusic
@mrgameandmusic 3 года назад
How about you let Axl win, cause that would be nice 😊
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