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Use Your IEMs as a Gaming Headset! 

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Ever wanted to use your Hifi IEMs for gaming? The Kinera Gramr is an earphone cable with an integrated boom mic, which can turn almost any IEM into a proper gaming headset.
Products in this video (affiliate links):
🛒 Kinera Gramr: geni.us/TFf0AFI
🛒 Hoerluchs cable: hoerluchs-unlimited.com/en/pr...
🛒 NA Ethos Pro-Gaming: www.null-audio.com/products/e...
IEMs:
🛒 NSMO Jr: geni.us/ijraWA
🛒 Moondrop Aria Snow: geni.us/cU0A
🛒 Raptgo Hook-X: geni.us/P5CBMs
🛒 Simgot EA500: geni.us/GKTPoiD
🛒 Kinera Idun 2.0: geni.us/djOZ0
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@audaceus
@audaceus Год назад
Yes! The review finally dropped. I got a Tri x Hbb IEM Kai for mine, to match the blue aesthetic. I also got the TRN EMX (non-iem) flat style earbuds, also a 2 pin connector one, but with an over the ear design, for times when I find the earplug style of the iem's too invasive or fatiguing. All in all, can't beat the Gramr for price to performance, and the TRN EMX goes a long way if you just want a little more comfort.
@mystichavin5330
@mystichavin5330 Год назад
some people have mixed feelings on the moondrop ssps, but personally i love how light and comfortable they are for long gaming sessions. great in games like valorant and general use too. plus the cable is amazing. also no recessed socket for the 2 pin connector
@AllTheOthers
@AllTheOthers 11 месяцев назад
I've got the Kinera Ruyi, big big fan. Planning on buying the Gramr next and exploring others. This thing unironically rocks. Using it with my Blessing 3's, so do not take what I say as 100% accurate for all IEMs, I use Stellaris and Blessing 3's, so I've pretty much got an amazing experience all around on both of those god-tier IEMs.
@hue4770
@hue4770 10 месяцев назад
does the mic on the Kinera Ruyi sound good?
@josuad6890
@josuad6890 Год назад
My IEM suggestion: 1. Moondrop Blessing 2 / Dusk. Yes, it has one of those slightly recessed 2 pin connector, but it works just fine on my UTWS 3 and 5 which did not have that notch on their 0.78mm connector. The B2/D is definitely a bright tilted set, so for in-game footstep it should work well, and still sound fantastic for music too. But the big nozzle can be fatiguing on your ears really fast if your ear hole isn't big enough. 2. 7hz/Salnotes Dioko. It is another planar set that have a flush 2 pin connector, and is fairly cheap. But in my case, I need a spinfit tip to make it sound "right" for my ears in comparison to it's FR graph. So yeah, if you find your Dioko sounding odd, try put that Hook X's tips on it, since Hook X's included tips are basically spinfit knockoff.
@exs6708
@exs6708 Год назад
Getting something like a TangZu Wan'er or 7hz Zero and modifying them with an equalizer is more than enough.
@pocketstoosumo
@pocketstoosumo Год назад
@@exs6708 true
@luelegante866
@luelegante866 Год назад
@@exs6708 What you mean when you say equalizer? Is that a PC app?
@sanuthweerasinghe7825
@sanuthweerasinghe7825 Год назад
what microphone would you recommend for the moondrop blessing dusk 2s?
@LUCKIPUP
@LUCKIPUP Год назад
check fresh reviews, eqs dont really affect iems that have subpar or terrible sound imaging to start out with when playing games, best budget iem rn for gaming is the crinacle zero
@maxim8934
@maxim8934 Год назад
Hey, great video as always! Can you review the Gigabyte G24F Version 2?
@vabue
@vabue Год назад
Kimura Microphone Cable has the same capabilities and quite good boom mic with nearly the same price. But it seems that 2pin connector can have the same flaws.
@Ru1eBritann1a
@Ru1eBritann1a Год назад
My head canon is that my comment about the ethos boom mic from null audio on a different video of yours prompted this one. The right connector on my ethos mic looks a bit thinner. The connector type is the same, but on close examination it looks no different in size from the left side. I haven’t, unfortunately, tried my mic with recessed connectors like in the Aria Snow edition.
@josuad6890
@josuad6890 Год назад
this trend of manufacturer not making 0.78mm 2 pin that can't go into recessed pins need to stop. fiio has also been doing this dumb thing with their UTWS 3 too, and users are left to find their own jank solution which is MMCX to 0.78mm connectors. Oddly enough, even with loads of complains from everyone, fiio did not fix this issue with their UTWS 5, which I find really odd. idk, is that design of 0.78mm connector that can fit into those recessed pins are licensed? To the point companies are skimping on it whenever possible? Because I find it odd that such an obvious design decision got overlooked by multiple companies nowadays.
@thatzaliasguy
@thatzaliasguy Год назад
*End-game IEM gaming setup:* KZ ZAX + Gramr and using PEACE EQ to tune for the Harman2019v2 target @-5db preamp.
@iagobkstar
@iagobkstar Год назад
I use a condenser mic with IEMs (ZS KZ 10 Pro). Best decision ever. The IEMs are way more comfortable for multiple reasons, such as weight, pressure on the temples and the fact that I use glasses. The sound quality is better than basically any headphones of the same price, as making IEMs is super cheap and the drivers are great.
@pno
@pno Год назад
what mic do you use specifically ? i have the same iems haha & i like the way they sound & fit but i need a mic for my ps5 :)
@aki5907
@aki5907 Год назад
As someone that also use the Prophile 8, did you find any microphone cable that fits the recessed 2-pin connector. Appreciate any suggestion on this.
@Tw2nty_Thre3
@Tw2nty_Thre3 Год назад
i have a question, can i connect the kinera gramr to a sound interface like the scarlet solo and use the microphone at the same time?
@BlueBillionPoundBottleJobs
@BlueBillionPoundBottleJobs Год назад
great video, I agree
@TomatePasFraiche
@TomatePasFraiche Год назад
Boy I got the perfect iem for you: whizzer-kylin-he10, it just came out and Akros compared it directly to the Simgot EA500, it has fully flush 2 pin connection, no recess. In the price category over it, a nice planar like the S12 with flush pins is also a very good one but the fit could be hit or miss for some (painful). Should be a great fit.
@user-qf7ku5yt2y
@user-qf7ku5yt2y 5 месяцев назад
thanks man
@cobaina9506
@cobaina9506 10 месяцев назад
what interface do you use, with my focusrite the mic doesnt work
@P-U-S-S
@P-U-S-S Год назад
The Tin hifi t3+ is my current go-to for CS at the moment. It has got a flush connection
@lodunost
@lodunost 18 дней назад
Man I had such a hard time finding this cable lol. I'm just starting my journey. would this headset work well with the Crinacle ZERO'S? They look flat but not sure. They are lightweight and I was looking at some profiles of them and they look like they would be good for gaming at least.
@alexusman
@alexusman Год назад
Found Gramr mic cable a few weeks ago when my bro asked about similar solutions for travel headset. Gotta try it out with 7Hz Timeless IEMs. But first gotta chech how mic itself works with tinhifi T2 plus.
@microwavegommmm916
@microwavegommmm916 Год назад
7hz salnotes zero IEM are neutral, have a flush 2 pin connection and are ridiculously cheap, I plan on using them for the Kinera Gramr, but I'm trying to find a solution for sidetone/mic monitoring that isn't too expensive
@luelegante866
@luelegante866 Год назад
I'm using a KZ ZS10 PRO + Fosi Q4 mini and i can definitely say that the sound is absolutely amazing! I play PUBG as a main FPS game, and the way I'm listening to the footsteps now is just crazy, the sound is so much immersive and clean compared to normal headsets.
@bleds
@bleds Год назад
Is the Kinera Gramr compatible with the ZS10 Pros? That’s the IEM I’ve had my eye on
@lqmanahkim5441
@lqmanahkim5441 6 месяцев назад
samee, have u found the answer? lmk@@bleds
@JetSe77er
@JetSe77er 9 месяцев назад
Why not try the Truthear Hexa? The Moondrop Blessing 3: Dusk is also supposed to be coming out soon.
@josephomoyajowo8509
@josephomoyajowo8509 10 месяцев назад
I wonder if the Kinera Gramr will work with the moondrop chu 2
@catalyst8704
@catalyst8704 Год назад
Until they invent cables longer than 1 meter, or wireless IEMs without horrible Bluetooth connection, they're not gonna be a threat to gaming headsets. I use IEMs myself but the short ass cables paired with extension cables annoys me. Hopefully the Logitech G Fits gets released in Europe at some point.
@josuad6890
@josuad6890 Год назад
Yeah, a TWS with 2.4ghz connection is definitely on my wishlist. Bonus points if it can do aptx LL/adaptive and LDAC.
@vabue
@vabue Год назад
There are a lot of 3m cables on the market and plenty of shops ready to make it any length. Historically IEMs have 1.2m cable in the box, as they were targeted for wearable devices, like players and phones.
@microwavegommmm916
@microwavegommmm916 Год назад
Imagine 3.5mm extenders existing 🤯
@iantune
@iantune Год назад
you can literally buy or make an iem cable longer than 1meter. gaming headsets doesnt need a threat bec they're not even good to begin with. ass mic with ass sound quality
@thezotag
@thezotag Год назад
hey, do you use a dac/amp?
@luckyjuky
@luckyjuky 2 месяца назад
Hi, ich überlege mir das Mikro zu kaufen, aber mein Problem mit iems ist, dass ich mich selber dann nicht mehr so gut höre. Won Headsets bekomme ich aber Kopfschmerzen. Kennst du gute Lösungen um das Mikrofon abzuhören? Natürlich abgesehen von der Windows Lösung
@NoSend901
@NoSend901 2 месяца назад
EM6L, do they fit?
@joshuaaaroncalamba
@joshuaaaroncalamba 5 месяцев назад
Does kinera gramr works with truthear hexa?
@WellActualllyyy
@WellActualllyyy Год назад
this is cool. i have tmj and sometimes the gaming headset pressure is too much
@iantune
@iantune Год назад
sold my dt770 to buy another IEM (i use 1 for PC and 1 for Phone). my tmj feels so much better now 😂😂
@Desmond987
@Desmond987 4 месяца назад
Kiwi ears orchestra lite and that cable. Godtier minimalistic setup for fps gaming.
@Pikachu123OP
@Pikachu123OP Год назад
Maybe the kiwi ears cadenza. I got to test the imaging more, though, for comp. fps
@Pikachu123OP
@Pikachu123OP Год назад
update: too much bass. Even more bass than the Crin Zero. Solid imaging for valorant but the bass is too overpowering.
@aagurrego
@aagurrego 2 месяца назад
I'm really late to this review. But I think you can attach the Kinera Gramr 2pin with the Linsoul KZ ZS10 PRO 2. All together it's less than $100, which is pretty great value.
@lodunost
@lodunost 18 дней назад
Have you used these? I have been like looking for a set I'm sitting on the Crinical Zero's because of the reviews and what people have to say about comfort and long sessions.
@khesus1426
@khesus1426 Год назад
Where can i buy them in europ?
@xaguerox29
@xaguerox29 Год назад
Un cable con micrófono barato para los moondrop aria?
@yeeyw
@yeeyw 3 месяца назад
Kinera mic cable only had 1 frustrating issue lmao why tf is the 2 pin connector is not the same
@racctor
@racctor Год назад
its not available in europe right?
@JACKEAG1E
@JACKEAG1E Год назад
So do I just plug it in to my splitter
@Ru1eBritann1a
@Ru1eBritann1a Год назад
What kind of tool is shown at 3:47?
@enwz96
@enwz96 Год назад
I am very happy with Dunu Kima for gaming at the moment
@KiiroKiiroTorini
@KiiroKiiroTorini Год назад
I hope the DUNU Kima fits in these cables
@alawy-tech
@alawy-tech Год назад
The video color is amazing 🤩 please tell me what's your (camera - key light - hair light)
@techlessYT
@techlessYT Год назад
Thanks! I'm using the Fuji XT3, with the Viltrox 23 1.4. Key light is a Neewer 660 LED panel with the Neewer softbox. Blue and yellow lights are Godox tube lights.
@alawy-tech
@alawy-tech Год назад
@@techlessYT and you make some color grading, right ?
@techlessYT
@techlessYT Год назад
Of course :-) I record Flog and use Davinci resolve
@alawy-tech
@alawy-tech Год назад
@@techlessYT i hope for you to reach for you 1m Sebscribe 🌹 , I'm glad to know you 🌹
@Medsas
@Medsas Год назад
just buy a lavalier mic and a splitter for like 10$... this is annoying because you have to change the cable at the 2 pin side (fragile) when you dont use the mic, whereas a splitter is just a matter of unplugging the Y connector, why buy a specialized gadget when a general solution thats been used for a long time works perfectly fine...
@aacf-2917
@aacf-2917 4 месяца назад
does this cable work with the TRUTHEAR x Crinacle Zero, or do you have a recomendation that works with this iems
@lodunost
@lodunost 18 дней назад
Did you find an answer to this question? I have been looking into starting my IEM journey
@obsfury7444
@obsfury7444 Год назад
can you review the gigabyte g24f2?
@shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh
please try the Truthear Zero and the HBB Khan, both are 2-pin 2DD IEMs below $50 and i'm sure the Gramr fits with them!
@atren09
@atren09 Год назад
i was actually going to comment this. i'm thinking about buying a zero red and a kinera mic cable, but now i don't know if they actually fit, and that's holding me 😅
@syriust.3055
@syriust.3055 11 месяцев назад
@@atren09I want to do the same thing but can’t seem to find the answers to this exact question… do you have any additional information since then ?
@jaywye
@jaywye Год назад
I was excited to use it on the Aria Snow until 2:45
@kuting_slayer
@kuting_slayer Год назад
mic test?
@fakeshrew
@fakeshrew Год назад
Hey, could you get ahold of and review the M27T20 from KTC? It's a mini led "pre-calibrated" 1440p 165hz monitor that I've been eyeing, and I would like to know how it performs.
@techlessYT
@techlessYT Год назад
I'm actually testing it right now 😅
@RaoulsRandomVideos
@RaoulsRandomVideos Год назад
Please try the 7hz SALNOTES Zero with this cable. It should fit easily.
@vabue
@vabue Год назад
7hz use mmcx connection, not 2 pin in their IEMs.
@RaoulsRandomVideos
@RaoulsRandomVideos Год назад
@@vabue Ah I typed the name wrong, I meant 7hz SALNOTES zero. Timeless uses mmcx but the salnotes uses 2 pin.
@vibingcat
@vibingcat Год назад
Have you ever tried to send Sennheiser earbuds I forgot with the Sennheiser earbuds are called but I think it's just the lower range earbuds cheap though nevermind I remember what's called. It's called IE300
@Juice_VI
@Juice_VI Год назад
Antlion just made one of the these IEM microphones as well.
@gynt5938
@gynt5938 Год назад
Just lap off the extra thickness for compatibility
@unamgege
@unamgege Год назад
7hz Salnotes Zero?
@braedondaves3297
@braedondaves3297 Год назад
What mixer do you use, looks simple and compact and not goxlr 😂
@braedondaves3297
@braedondaves3297 Год назад
RME-ADI 2
@iamfrog6747
@iamfrog6747 Год назад
While I understand the hype for IEMs, I still personally think the lack of any pinna interaction kills the immersion. It's still fine for music, however games and movies lose a bit of their impact. But hey, whatever tickles your pickle I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@NyteStalker89
@NyteStalker89 Год назад
Dunu vulkan is probably one of the best gaming iems
@alawy-tech
@alawy-tech Год назад
Please i want to know your ( camera - key light - hair light ) 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Psc906
@Psc906 Год назад
Hi, I just bought the mic and plugged it in my 3.5mm jack on my pc and it doesnt work :(. Do I need some kind of audio interface ? IEM: Simgot EA500 Mic: Kinera Gramr
@techlessYT
@techlessYT Год назад
Hard to say without knowing more details about your PC. But you might need a mic splitter cable and connect it to the red and green sockets on your motherboard. Generally I would recommend getting an audio interface though - motherboard audio is often pretty bad and noisy.
@Psc906
@Psc906 Год назад
@@techlessYT Alright thanks 🫶🏽💪🏽
@almin4
@almin4 7 месяцев назад
might be late but the apple usbc to 3.5mm dongle works perfectly fine and has a really good chip
@1337wafflezz
@1337wafflezz Год назад
just get a desktop mic or use a cable with an integrated mic like the apple earpods.
@user-ms2wg2ys5w
@user-ms2wg2ys5w Год назад
could you review the new g24f 2? you recommended the previous model, so im interested to see how the new one compares
@nickochioneantony9288
@nickochioneantony9288 Год назад
I got some info from some local reviewer in my country... basically they are identical in build (which maybe why they don't get reviewed), but the panel is different (Gigabyte use the 180hz oc panel rather than the old 170hz), and the reviewer said that the color accuracy is slightly off compared to the older G24f (not that its bad or anything, just strange in term of product "upgrade"), and it also don't include a Display Port cable like the older model. The good side is, the response time improved ever so slightly. I am currently use the G24f2, and found absolutely no problem regarding the panel color... everything looks clear and vibrant, I'd say it was worth the money (but I upgraded from my old TN panel that is 7 yo at this point, so your mileage may vary from mine)
@joseibarra2898
@joseibarra2898 6 месяцев назад
Can they be used for the Ps5?
@STAA.R05
@STAA.R05 Месяц назад
Have you tried
@luiscrespo784
@luiscrespo784 Месяц назад
Bro I have moondrop kato plz I need a mic for those
@Joshua-ts5tb
@Joshua-ts5tb Год назад
Do you need splitter for Kinera gramr for mic to work too?
@paullindamickey
@paullindamickey 11 месяцев назад
yes, I want to know that too. The description mentions something about a splitter, but I don't see it in the photo where all the parts are shown.
@Joshua-ts5tb
@Joshua-ts5tb 11 месяцев назад
@@paullindamickey hi, you need a splitter for this for mic to work. Also I recommend buying a different earphones/mic. Two kinera that I bought broke in less than 6 months. Quality was pretty bad
@HDAD419
@HDAD419 Год назад
try salnote zero with this cables
@OgSwisszyed
@OgSwisszyed Год назад
Like Crin said the best gaming headphone is a good IEM with a Good and cheap Lapel microphone. So with that get yourself a decent budget IEM with a 10$ lapel with all of that you'll have one of the best periferal that beat all most all the gaming headset space
@Ujfukge
@Ujfukge Год назад
Hey do you have any suggestion for both IEM and mic then ? or link maybe
@alexusman
@alexusman Год назад
@@Ujfukge this gramr mic and 7hz timeless IEMs
@OgSwisszyed
@OgSwisszyed Год назад
@@Ujfukge what is your budget for the iem? The mic my default is always the boya m1
@Ujfukge
@Ujfukge Год назад
@@alexusman thx gonna check it
@Ujfukge
@Ujfukge Год назад
@@OgSwisszyed I don’t have specific budget but I don’t plan to spend 500€ on those tho
@leonardoboscolonata603
@leonardoboscolonata603 Год назад
You can try with the zero x Crinacle
@Pikachu123OP
@Pikachu123OP Год назад
That one has a recessed 2 pin slot, sadly
@shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh
@@Pikachu123OP but it the cavity not wide? i thought by looking at the product pics that the 2pin conector cavity was wider than usual
@Pikachu123OP
@Pikachu123OP Год назад
@@shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh no, it slightly recessed
@onecap1
@onecap1 Год назад
Ur telling me tape can't make it fit🤣🤣
@vivid_xyz
@vivid_xyz Год назад
I would really watch out with using IEMs for gaming, because it will definetely clog up your ear canals over time. Wearing IEMs regularly for short periods of time is fine, but very long, frequent use is bad for your ears and potentially leads to (treatable) hearing loss.
@jorgeh4591
@jorgeh4591 Год назад
Can you elaborate on this or provide any additional research/info? Curious on what you mean by clogging up your ear canals.
@LionGalban
@LionGalban Год назад
My mic stopped working just after a month. Not under warranty in Asia. Womp
@SubhadeepBarman-pf5yk
@SubhadeepBarman-pf5yk Год назад
Please bring a full review of BenQ MOBIUZ EX240 2022 (upvote this comment)
@Thund3rstone
@Thund3rstone Год назад
So called "gaming headsets" have always been shit and only sold because marketing. They ARE trouble. On the audio low and mid end this might be an acceptable solution, on the audio high end I recommend the legendary Crinacle RU-vid vid about "gaming headphones" if you really care for stage and imaging. Because for gaming you don't need to.
@FirdausAmir
@FirdausAmir Год назад
I just bought mmcx ver. , Working great for me I use TIN T2 Plus
@iantsears
@iantsears 3 месяца назад
The Kinera Gramr molds, that are used for the left side, and separately for the right side with mic... are not the same mold. They made three molds when they should have made four and we pay for it as the consumers. Because Kinera offers this in 2-pin, MMCX, 4-pin, and 7-pin; they size the right side with mic rubber connector part for the largest of those options... and it does not FIT into the 0.78mm 2-pin iems female connectors. So it FALLS OUT of the right side iem. Not once in. a while... this happens constantly. You could say "well, just get out an Xacto knife and shave it DOWN then!" but then if you do it not perfectly it will never fit and now the warrantly is voided, etc. No. This is a manufacturer's defect that still has not been corrected. YOU pay for this defect. Be WARNED.
@lordzyang1542
@lordzyang1542 Год назад
aful performer 5
@jefhelmes
@jefhelmes Год назад
Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lite.
@maratpirate6343
@maratpirate6343 Год назад
these are great, but realistically i can just use an external desk microphone with any heaphones i want
@theedstv
@theedstv Год назад
anybody else do not like IEMs and just prefer the old style earphones?
@raginginferno868
@raginginferno868 Год назад
Anyone listening to this using a gaming headset?
@a-job7276
@a-job7276 Год назад
Truthear Hola?
@techlessYT
@techlessYT Год назад
Looks like recessed sockets though 🤔
@Augusto9588
@Augusto9588 Год назад
too many cables, i rather just get a regular wireless headset and not having to worry about that
@N0N0111
@N0N0111 Год назад
Look at this KZ AZ10
@cha0ss0ldier-4
@cha0ss0ldier-4 Год назад
I’d rather have something that doesn’t sound like crap. It’s literally one cable lol.
@antonkozintsov648
@antonkozintsov648 2 месяца назад
Nice review without even showcasing the microphone. Do not suggest to buy. Pure advertisement video.
@N0N0111
@N0N0111 Год назад
@techless kz-audio has tons of models for a good price.
@vvraithz
@vvraithz Год назад
I wonder if your DAC/Amp is hindering your experience with the Hook X. I’ve found it to be the best gaming IEM at $220 or below. I’m gaming on XSX with a topping DX3pro+ and/or the steel Series GameDAC2. Check out “Fresh Reviews” on YT. He has a great analysis of many IEMs!
@techlessYT
@techlessYT Год назад
Been using it with the RME ADI-2 Pro a lot, so that shouldn't be an issue 😅
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