Using a $17 Hackintosh in 2023 

@myburn even my core 2 quad can run ventura from 2008 Dgpu needed tho

@@eazy_black yeah,it's because the igpus where on the motherboard and alot of them where straight up garbage

Thanks, I appreciate it.

Looking forward for depth installation of the same pc, thanks

Sadly, Fujitsu announced the end of production of workstations and PCs.

The good news it’s not till April 24. Better news is there will be plenty of these desktops sold off when corps jump ship when they end of life current deployed units.

Lets not mention their server range.. I've never seen one, but from what I do hear, firmware updates were roulette.

Servers are rock solid, in 7 years only ever had 1 doa which was a daughter card failure , not even a Fujitsu pert, and two that failed in the first year of the 3 year warranty. As I had all, the Fujitsu type training so was certified to do my own repairs, they just sent the parts on a 4 hour replacement, all machines back up and running before the end of the day. Where I work now we use Dell and HP, there are 5 Fujitsu servers in the Data centre, that never go wrong, with the exception of the EMC kit neither Dell or HP ever manage to get same day fix, so we rely on the failover for each server. Their desktop and laptop repair is woeful, they seem to rely on re-certified parts that are often just broken in an other area. Agreed Fujitsu server firmware updates could be a little sparse but they seemed to update when it was important enough, not just because they changed the logo for the start screen . HP. Bonus with Fujitsu servers anything from 2010 onwards seems fine funning windows 8 onwards, so can be used as desktops. I use one for compiling its a brute force thing with 128gb of ram and 16 cores, cost me nothing as it was going to be scrapped.

You should !! Mine is really smooth on Big Sur 😁

The EFI Tutorial is in this video, it's pretty easy

www.ebay.de/itm/386101086046 - Ended yesterday for €25. www.ebay.de/itm/235164176658 - Ended 6 days ago for €21,50. www.ebay.de/itm/235153545302 - Ended 10 days ago for €21.50. www.ebay.de/itm/235181608699 - Ended 3 hours ago for €35 (with an i5 and an SSD).

Poster is clearly from UK where the average consumer is accustomed to paying far more for anything compared to an EU Citizen. I know. I used to be British.

Even in the UK you can pick up a similar spec machine for next to nothing. It doesn't have to be this specific model. These Fujitsu PC's just happen to be more common in Germany since that's where Fujitsu manufactured them. In the UK you can pick up an old Dell, Lenovo or HP office PC with the same or similar CPU for under 25 quid. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155756661820 - Sold for £9.99 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266396196411 - Sold for £19.99 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155749817383 - Sold for £15 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/145264243101 - Sold for £22 www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115898028379 - Sold for £16 for 5 PC's - so that's just over 3 quid each. Any of these would be hackintoshable.

When bargain hunting on ebay you need to have patience, it's not like walking into Currys.

I don't think they will cut x86 that soon.

relatively high power consumption though.. mac mini 2012s use around 14W at idle / sleep and 27W in use - that's the reason I personally cannot justify a mac / hack desktop - the new silicons are even more efficient; for a senior or school kid okay. Now hack laptops are a different matter - I love my lenovo hackbook pro !

You do realize that you would have to use a new Mac daily for 10+ years to offset its carbon footprint against continuing to use a PC that is already built. And let’s not get started on the financial cost. BTW, Mac minis in sleep mode use

Well considering my mac mini is 2012 I think I qualify for an upgrade! and it will be repurposed (2014 models were awful). would be interested to know where you are getting the 10 year figure? - the boxite/alu extraction is sore I know..@@graxxor

I got the CPU from Ebay. The SSD was from pccomponentes.pt. It was new and it cost 10,48 EUR.

with the amount of money you'd be spending just building a hackintosh, i can guarantee you a m1 mac mini or an m1 macbook would be able to give you equal if not better performance. arm macs are really the way these days. hackintosh will die out soon. at least props to apple for making their macs more affordable and usable.

@@slashparty thanks!

Thanks a lot

You can create the USB in Windows if you don't have access to a Mac. I made a video a week or two ago about how to do that - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-s_zlanxCWeM.html

if you need service of macos install, do let me know.

I have i5 4590s + rx580 4gb and 16gb ram. Ventura works great on this.

@@Endless_Dreams just wondering, what exactly can you do with this mac ventura.. compared with just using windows or linux?

@@judasthepious1499 It's more convenient for me to work without seeing Windows windows. After all, I have fewer errors on the hack than on Windows 10 or 11, which is actually Windows XP with minor kernel changes and a different graphical interface. I also have other Apple devices and I can start work on the way home on the iPad and finish at home on the computer without any problems. Xcode is also a great advantage. Contrary to appearances, the hack runs and works much more efficiently on this computer than Windows or Linux. Maybe it's strange, but it's true. This just goes to show how Windows is filled with all sorts of crap that 95% of users don't use or know exists.

@@judasthepious1499 idk what that person does but productivity based work such as video editing and music production are better on macos than windows. it's just the way windows handles these things. millions of different drivers that perform inefficiently while on macos you obviously dont have to install extra drivers and everything "just works".

Radeon RX 460 4GB. The cheapest GPU that's still natively supported in macOS Ventura and Sonoma.

You could give this EFI a try - github.com/MultimediaLucario/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T470

thanks! ill give it a try @@BartechTV

It doesn't have to be this exact model, it was just the cheapest one I happened to find at the time I was looking. Dozens of auctions for old office PC's with a haswell i3, i5 or i7 have sold in the last couple of days for under €30. Lenovo ThinkCentre, HP EliteDesk, HP ProDesk, Dell Optiplex, they're all hackintoshable.

The 7350 is a completely different architecture to the 7970. It's based on the Terascale 2 architecture, and has never been supported in macOS. Even if I could somehow get it to work, the integrated HD 4600 on the CPU is three times faster. Not even worth the 4 euros I sold it for.

That listing is an Italian seller trying to sell $20 computers for many times their value. He's also trying to sell 2001-era 17" LCD monitors for the price of a modern IPS ultrawide. In Europe there are several auctions for this PC that ended in the last month at under 25 Euros. This PC was never released in the US as far as I know. In the US you'd probably have more luck finding a Lenovo ThinkCentre or a Dell Optiplex with a similar spec. For example, on Ebay US I can see three Lenovo ThinkCentre M93P listings that were sold at $16 with a core i5-4570T that will run macOS fine, and there are dozens of Dell Optiplex 4th to 7th gen systems that sold recently for very low prices too.

The Ventura license agreement says: "Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, unless you obtained the Apple Software from the Mac App Store, through an automatic download or under a volume license, maintenance or other written agreement from Apple, you are granted a limited, non-exclusive license to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-branded computer at any one time." This means that it's, generally, against the terms of their license to install MacOS onto a non-Apple computer. Apple isn't likely to do anything to individuals who make a Hackintosh, but an educational institution could be opening themselves to liability for doing it. Presumably, the school would need a specific educational license for that use case. And it seems unlikely that Apple would grant a license around teaching students how to make Hackintosh systems, given that this would entail teaching them how to do something Apple doesn't officially allow.

The 6700K and NVMe drive will work, but not your 1080. MacOS only supports AMD.

There are two mice in this video. A Logitech B100 (black) and a Razer DeathAdder Essential (white).

Sadly, there's no support for Alder Lake iGPU's in macOS Ventura, so the N100 wouldn't work. The best mini PC for hackintosh until very recently was still probably the Intel 8th gen Nuc8i5BEK. It's like a 2018 Mac Mini but with faster graphics performance thanks to the Iris Plus 655. Recently, the NootedRed project has made it possible to run macOS on AMD APU's with integrated Vega GPU's, so the best hackintosh Mini PC right now would probably be one based on the Ryzen 7 5700G.

@@BartechTV That's unfortunate. So I got it, by the time the choices are two: I save some old puppy from the junkyard or I bite the bullet and buy a mac mini m2 for 550€ (which would not be a bad idea, considering the price and the the curiosity for the new chip). Assemble a 5700g could probably cost around 400€ (180€ cpu and then motherboard, psu, ram, case). Nonetheless a dual boot linux/mac-os machine for 400€ could be an option to consider for me. Thanks for info.

You can get HP and Lenovo minipcs of the same era for very cheap too

Yes, it would work. You wouldn't even need to use OpenCore Legacy Patcher after install. You can just spoof the Skylake HD 530 device-id to Kaby lake and it'll work.

@@BartechTV Thanks for the prompt reply. Not sure what that means??!

You can find detailed instructions here - github.com/5T33Z0/OC-Little-Translated/tree/main/11_Graphics/iGPU/Skylake_Spoofing_macOS13

Thank you. I’ll do a bit of self education.

It would be slower, and you'd have to spoof the HD 4400 iGPU to HD 4600 since the HD 4400 was never supported in macOS. Yes, you can use the 4570s.

It's only really Brazil and India that get fucked, both because of import restrictions

Sounds like you should move then.

@@TigerGreene sounds really easy, believe me, I would if I could. Gotta finish my degree and get a job abroad to do that legally and in a decent way.

@@KennerMarqueti Good luck. My parents did it years ago, immigrating to the US for a better life. It was very hard and took many years (and lying to their government). Do you ever travel or have friends or relatives in cheaper countries? Perhaps that might be a way to buy a bunch of stuff cheap to bring or ship to Brasil.

Love to see WHAT? Just load Linux on anything of similar specs and you duplicate the experience. There's nothing to "see" you cannot duplicate yourself in the time it takes to load a virtual machine on whatever OS you currently use, and Linux need not be installed to bare metal. You can load Ventoy along with all the Linux .iso files it has space for then live boot each on your existing PC to determine which you prefer.

​@@Comm0ut "Love to see what?" It seems he wanted to see the computer in the video with a Linux distro.

Yes but you wouldn't be able to use the Nvidia GPU, only the integrated graphics on the CPU, since macOS has no Nvidia support.

​@@BartechTVWrong. Opencore supports Kepler and older Nvidia GPUs on Big Sur. macOS did support Nvidia GPUs previously.

Yes it works fine.

Ventura needs AVX2 so that means 4th gen or newer. But you could run an older version of macOS.

My daughter uses both on our Hackintosh 4770k based Hac. She hasn’t complained once.

Yes I published a video a couple of days ago that shows how to do that.

@@BartechTV thanks i installed ventura successfully. is the any way to upgrade it to sonoma without reinstalling all

I have no need for VM's so I don't know but I assume so. macOS hasn't been able to run 68k apps since macOS 8.1 in 1998 and the last version to run PPC apps was Leopard in 2007.

@@BartechTV Holy sh1t are you kidding about modern macs not backwards compatible with 68K & PPC apps?? That's all I have and an ocean of them. Thanks for the info. I guess I'll stick then with my PowerMac 9600 @ 300mghz!

Yes. Obviously you'd need to add a compatible Bluetooth / Wifi card since those features require Bluetooth and Wifi, but they work fine.

250$ for Vellum however. At that point you might as well save up a little more for a used MacBook Pro from 2012 for around 50-80$ and get a keyboard and trackpad and screen all included.

@@ghost-user559 Actually, Vellum is no longer worth buying. There are better alternatives that do not require a Mac. And they are cheaper. Vellum is for the same crowd who are willing to pay extra for a logo. Because let’s face it, Apple puts out underpowered crap at high prices because snobs want to have the Apple logo.

@@ghost-user559probably could pirate it if you’re going the hackintosh route anyways. Idk if it’s possible to pirate apple apps or not though.

Yeah, but how would you know if the components are going to be compatible with MAC OS Ventura 13 on a Dell?

Mostly there are way better deals with shipping in the USA then in Europe.

tell that to any internet browser that eats 32GB of RAM and still manage to crash with 10 open pages ...

@@minmogrovingstrongandhealthy use thorium or mercury browser

@@minmogrovingstrongandhealthy don't use chromium based browsers and that won't happen ever.

You can, but you’d have to use the integrated Intel graphics since the 1050 isn’t supported in macOS.

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Your CPU was supported up to Monterey, and your GPU up to High Sierra.

@@BartechTV And what GPU need I to support Monterrey too?

The only way to find out is to look at the spec sheet for your motherboard. You shouldn't need any drivers for the 6800XT since it's natively supported in macOS. It should just work. Just add the "agdpmod=pikera" boot argument. For the sound, make sure that you have lilu.kext and applealc.kext, then choose an appropriate audio layout. According to the specifications of your motherboard (www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z790-AERO-G-rev-10/sp#sp) it's using an ALC1220-VB audio codec. According to the list of supported codecs at github.com/acidanthera/AppleALC/wiki/Supported-codecs you can use layout id's 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 15, 16, 17, 18, 20, 21, 25, 27, 28, 29, 30, 34, 35, 98, 99, 100. In your boot-args, add "alcid=xx", replacing xx with one of the above audio layouts. Try each one in turn until you find one that works that works for you, testing all of the audio ports, headphone jack, microphone jack etc.

@@BartechTV Jee, thanks very much man! For your royal answer. I get into this. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

You can just buy an ex-office Dell Optiplex or Lenovo ThinkCentre on Ebay for less than €50 that will be fine for day to day tasks.

Have you mapped your USB ports? If you open terminal and type "pmset -g", what do you see?

following. looking to hackintosh and optiplex

No, you can use Windows to create the USB if you prefer. I made a video a couple of weeks ago showing how to do that - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-s_zlanxCWeM.html

It's a matter of personal preference. With OpenCore, you can install macOS, Linux, and Windows at the same time.