Thank you so much I love these "Unprofessional" types of videos because they actually give you the way to do it unlike many professional companies that just talk about the product and all of the crazy things you need Very useful and helpful thank you sir
For those wondering about how to monitor the Logic mix, what we do is make an aggregate device in the 'Audio MIDI Setup' app made up of our A&H SQ6 USB output, and the built-in audio output (i.e. the headphone socket/internal speakers on an iMac/MacBook). This gives us a 34 channel device that we select as the audio output in Logic (where he showed selecting 'X-USB' in the video). The first 32 channels are what goes out over USB to the mixer (though you would only use two of these for your stereo mix, again as shown in the video), and channels 33-34 go to the headphones. Our mix bus is on an aux channel one stage before the actual Output channel, with a Send added which routes the mix audio to 33/34 and gives a separate output going to the headphone jack (or built-in speakers) that we can control the level of independently. The added benefit of this is that if you have a channel you don't want to go out to the live stream, say an MD or talkback mic, that you would still like to hear in your monitors, you can route that channel directly to Output 33/34 (in our case) and completely bypass the main mix bus. On another note, @PHED Church it's strange that your M1 Mac Mini struggles to record as well as process the mix-we're running a 10 year old iMac with an i5 and 8GB RAM, and it'll process 32 channels of audio from our SQ6 with a decent number of plugins (mostly stock with a couple of Waves) absolutely fine. We multitrack record simultaneously, and we have no issues during our livestream. We're probably pushing the limits a bit, but an M1 should be loads faster. Maybe the shared memory means that it really needs 16GB to have enough breathing room.
This was very helpful. One question: What is the advantage of routing the stereo mix from Logic back into the mixer vs just sending the stereo mix from the headphone jack directly to the Atem?
Good question. Why send it back to the X32? We send it out the M1’s headphone socket directly into the Atem. Works a treat - it is the mix you want Charles because you’ve told Logic to send it there and not back to the X-USB. So I’m genuinely curious if your way has benefits. Is it lower latency for example?
@@markwilliams4276 We tried a few different methods (including the simple headphone out) to route the audio from Logic back to the ATEM and have (at least for the moment) settled on sending the audio feed back into the mixer via USB and then out to the ATEM via a stereo aux mix. We found, at least in our situation, to eliminate all perceivable latency and enabled us to better monitor the Logic mix being sent to the ATEM.
This helped me. The Behringer X32 routing is pretty powerful but also can be confusing. With the change to X32 user input/outputs you can define each channel. I was struggling getting the card to the Aux out. As you demonstrated, just use a direct out.
Great question. We route to buses now.. in the video we were doing all stereo outs. We now have vocal, drum instruments buses with effects and such on each.
@@JamespMusic that's not what he's explaining. the x32 is an audio interface on its own. he's simply explaining how you can use the Daw for broadcast mix, and sending it back to a video switcher
Are you using one computer to process in logic and another computer to stream? I would imagine it be intense on your pc to do everything (logic and obs)
We are using this method with Reaper and X32. Reaper and Vmix sit on the same Windows box. We don't have issues, but it is a pretty robust computer. You can record a session on Reaper and then set up your livestream mix. It is really hard to mix livestream when you are in the house. Sound just bleeds through the headphones and skews your mix.
Hey, we don’t. The latency is so low we don’t notice it usually. If you do though, you can go to your settings on video switcher and add a little latency on the video. We use a black magic they now have that option.
Hey, no you do not. IF you decide to record this will take a TON of processing power and may glitch depending on your computer. You DO have to have "record" enabled. This allows for live monitoring. hope that helps.
We are running an AH Qu32 board through a camera , sound card to Mac desktop to ECAMM live . Is it possible for me to add LOGIC pro as a DAW on teh same Mac and send the audio into ECAMM?
I followed the steps but I am not getting a signal in 29 & 30 for some reason. Everything is set correctly but no signal. Am I missing something? Do I need to update the mixer?
Thanks for replying so quickly! You are awesome! Unfortunately, it looks like I have everything routed correctly… we are using the x32 digital snakes. Not sure if that would be a problem.. but I went into routing and under the user I went to Card in and selected 29 and 30. And then I went to the ox out one and two and changed the Direct out to 29 and 30 as well and switched the tap to the same setting that you had, but for some reason I can’t seem to get anything back to the board that is coming through logic.
What kind of wire are you using for the aux? I tried this last night and couldn't get a signal when we sent to aux on the board (we use a M32 at my church) -- please help fast. We have a conference Friday -Sunday and have to fix our stream audio. God bless
Hey sorry just seen this… we just used a cable that went 2 ts 1/4 to 1/8.. and we have the audio going into our atem . The problem is probably more likely your routing.. you have to route the output of whatever channels you are using to go out those aux ports.
Currently I’m using logic on my laptop, and feeding my black magic through the laptop stereo headphones jack with a 3.5mm aux cable. Am I getting max quality, or do I have to feed back to mixer to the black magic to get max quality?
Is this set up working for you (headphone jack to Atem)?? I'm working on set this up and this seems like it could be the simplest way to do it. Though, like you, I'm wondering if it compromises the quality at all.
Thank you for the video, I’ve been considering trying this for a few months now. To get the sound back to the board can you use the same usb connection that gets the signal from the board to the computer or do you go through an interface. Much appreciated.
Hey, yes use the same one. You can use an interface.. however when we tried this we had about 3 seconds of latency. Wasn’t good. So we run the main stereo out back through the usb and assign it to 2 channels. Then send the output of those two channels to an aux or something
No it is crystal clear.. however. If you are going into a atem mini… you have to go set the input from mic to line. If it is set to mic… you will have noise cause they apply 20db of gain…
We are using the board for house. And logic for livestream. We run the livestream back through the board on 2 channels for stereo. Not using the board to mix online. Only in house.
Hey great question: we use the headphones we already have for the soundboard. So the R and L coming back to sound board from stereo out we just “solo” that and that is the feed. :) for our we have the stereo out coming back to 29/30 as a stereo channel which we send to live stream. To set this you go into preferences, audio, and then stereo output you can select a return channel. Hope that helps.
@@JamespMusic Also you could sit another room / building with a computer listening to the livestream. Remote to the box and adjust as needed. Really hard to mix livestream when you are in the house as sound will leak through the headphones.
I'm having a hard time getting a signal to come into channels 31 & 32 which I have designated as the two channels that will receive audio from Logic. Please help
hey if you're running the Logic Project stereo outputs back into the mixer, then how are you listening to the logic project at all?? for example the output could be external headphones and connect headphones to the mac, but since the output is the X32, how are you doing it ?
Hey great question.. so we just use the board. We “solo” the 2 channels. We currently have one guy mixing both so this is good for him. When he wants to adjust the live stream just hit solo on mixer. Other thing you could do is plug headphones, directly into the Mac computer.
@@phedchurch when he solos , it doesn’t effect anything on FOH or any monitor system outside right ? Just solos into the headphones connected in the mixer ? And if you connect headphones in to the mac you would have to change the output on logic to hear it though
@@KennySalamanca yes I believe that is true. The soloing doesn’t affect the main mix. No, you can set up your board so when you solo it’s almost main mix, but this is a setting in your X 32 a default is through headphones only. I’m sure there’s another way to maybe set up a second output I’m not positive on that there may be another way to more efficiently send the sound to a live stream as well. We were using another interface to do this however, we experienced extreme latency when doing that.
@@phedchurch alright , thank you and one more question , sorry I’m asking a lot but , how is it on time with video ?? What’s the process from there. So audio and video match , is there latency ?
@@KennySalamanca You have to delay the audio coming into your switcher, as video is always slower than audio. Simply find the audio delay setting in the input you are bringing the audio into the switcher.
Hey, did you change your routing? Go to routing page and the set accordingly. Another issue may be the “output” on your logic channels. You have to set the output on there as well.
I’m getting sound from the the x32 to logic, but when sending it back to the X32 I get no sound. I’m not very tech savage, but I’m sure it’s something to do with the card routining… idk
@@JamespMusic actually I figured it out yes you can use the faders as well to get a post fader but still use logic EQ ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-b_CbqDq61CQ.html
