V8 Y62 Patrol vs Landcruiser 200 Series: Towing and fuel economy test. The results may SHOCK you! 

Just like you I had a 200. Now in my garage and in front of my van is a 2021 Y62 and I couldn't be happier. The explanation for the better fuel economy is called technology compared to the 200. The 5.6 has variable valve timing and variable valve lift plus a seven speed auto which results in just loads of horsepower and better engine braking. Its biggest down fall is its performance as drivers cant resist to press the accelerator to hear and feel the big naturally aspirated V8 go. But as an owner that has now come to drive it sensibly as you mentioned you should, I now get 12.5l/100. The 19l/100 you mentioned is typical of a 200 driver as they cant believe the bang for buck when first driving the Y62.

Woot woot bout time the patrol got some recognition. We love our S5 TiL. I'm getting rougly 14lt to 100klm round town and I'm a leadfoot.

Great review, because I know you're a die hard cruiser man so that makes it more impressive, I commend you on your honesty and think you should do car reviews😉. That was one of the best real world test reviews I've seen, take note car reviewers.

I had LC200 before Y62. Honestly, even without load, LC200 drinks more than 62 while doing school run plus bit highway (about 20%). I just don’t understand why so many people keep saying how thirsty is the Patrol. While It’s not… both of them are not some eco friendly car by any means.

Great honest comparison. You made my life easier to choose the best V8 and that is Nissan. Placing order for Nissan and hope to get it this year. Thanks again.

Great honest review. My husband has always been a cruiser man, when it comes to towing. Was always concerned about fuel economy. Went with a Patrol this time. Overall, very very impressed & happy with our purchase.

Really impressive production and unbiased product comparison. You took the time to evaluate all the little issues relating to heavy van towing. I have seen various comparison tests done before by other reviewers but this is the best true comparison I've ever found between these two. Well done, and thank you.

Awesome mate, best comparison test I've seen for a while now. I'm also a cruiser guy but for the money really considering the patrol now.👍👍

Go the Patrol 😍😍 Good video mate! But hey cmon give the poor girl some 98 octane she is better than 91 😭😭

I see the Patrol has a lift. Another RU-vidr (DASH Off-road)posted that the Patrol may need the HBMC pressure lifted to make sure the shocks see full pressure now they are extended. Might’ve been the lightness felt in the front and the skittish feeling in the rear.

G’day Reuben. This was the first time I’ve watched your channel. This was a well conducted honest review. There’s a vehicle that most reviewers overlook. The Land Rover Discovery 5. We have an MY19 twin turbo 3lt V6 designated the Sv6. The Sv6 makes 225kw and 700Nm of torque delivered by a full time 4WD 8-speed ZF Transmission with automatically locking centre and rear diffs. Traction control takes care of the front diff.. Our 7-seater has a payload of 864kg and tows 3500kg with a GCM of 6700kg. Your LC 200’s crawl mode was preceded by the Land Rover designed All Terrain Progress Control, basically a low range cruise control which continuously monitors the terrain adjusts traction and is equipped with Low Traction Launch. The rock, sand, etc modes of the Nissan in the D5 are called Terrain Response 2 and were first designed and used by Land Rover in the D4 almost 20 years ago. No rocket science here. In 2019, we did a 35520 “Lap” towing a 3200kg semi- off-road van.These are our fuel figures obtained in the exact same way as yours in the test. We travelled 35520km of which 22000+/- a few km was towing our beautiful 21'6"Jayco Silverline Outback weighing almost 3300kg. We had a GCM of 6400kg. In total we refuelled 106 times from the pump and 4 top ups from our jerry cans using 5285.4 litres of fuel at a cost of $8288.94 = $1.57/lt. The most we paid was $2.35/lt on Fraser Island. Our hardest travelling was the Gibb River Road where we averaged 27kph for 600km 😱 Fuel consumption on The Gibb was 17.6l/100km. Overall, our fuel consumption was excellent as we averaged 15.16l/100km. Towing we averaged 16.5l/100. Our heaviest fuel consumption was Fraser Island at 21.4l/100km, closely followed by some towing into headwinds of just under 21l/100 on 6 occasions. Our best towing was 13.0l/100 and best overall was 8.5l/100. Suspension is fully independent with self levelling airbags and there is a native sway control which keeps it feeling like a rock on the road, bitumen or dirt. Downside is that the D5 is much more expensive than the L62, but similar to a Sahara. We’re now up to 65000 km with no reliability issues. I’m in no way criticising your review. It was excellent. Please be aware there is another option. I’m so confident of our very real figures that I’m prepared to let you repeat your test with my D5 next time we’re in Qld, if we ever get out of lockdown and Anastasia allows Victorians back. Cheers. We’ve subscribed.

Great video guys. Only one comment is that I would have loved to hear the cars instead of the music. Great video, so thorough.

What a joke! Toyota dealers in WA have repeatedly knocked me back when I have called in for assistance. In Geraldton now (15/07/2021) with starter motor issues. Toyota said, "we can't book you in for at least two weeks". In Darwin in May. I had to wait two weeks to have a new Turbo fitted. $4500. Karratha, I need a service....Sorry we are booked out! Currently driving to Perth towing a caravan but expect the same Toyota dealership friendliness....F*** off we are busy!

Hard to find good honest reviews where the presenter isn't bought out, Looks like the 300 series rear side window has copied the patrol, Thanks for the vid

Now it would be great if you could do the same thing with the new Silverado 1500 LTZ and RAM 1500 Laramie.

Good comparison Ruben. I was surprised by the fuel economy when towing. Wow! Glad you did a mixed circuit of gravel etc. the only other comparison I’ve seen was only black top driving. So yours is definitely more real world for me anyway. Enjoy playing with the Patrol. Can’t wait to see if you chop it!?

Awesome video well worth watching and good to see a video made for the garden variety people who are hitting the road now days with caravans. Old GU Patrol man here 🤠

Great video mate. Purely from a mechanical point of view, towing in an overdrive gear cannot be good long term, I understand it's not good for fuel economy not being in top gear but yeah loading up an overdrive gear isn't ideal

You did a great job with this review - this was how 4wd247 should have done it! And a natural in front of a camera!

Great video with awesome production quality. I’ve had my 2021 Ti-L for only 4 weeks. Fantastic first impressions. Great road trip car. Just installed a Pacemaker King Brown exhaust, excellent sound quality and can’t make it drone.

This is the best test comparison I have seen. I have been seriously looking at a replacement to my Colorado which is really efficient. But in terms of value the Patrol is much better value. And of course it doesn't have the dreaded DPF. The rear end can be stiffened with heavier standard height springs and heavier bushes. Would also be interesting with level ride bars. Thanks very impressed.

For the price of a Y62 you can put airbags in the rear & get a ecu tune or supercharger fitted for the extra torque and still be Cheaper than a 200

I love how you weren’t bias, every else does these reviews and it’s always biased and I expected nothing less but you proved us wrong with honesty. I appreciate the solid axle handling the weight better that’s true. Only 2 things, a) it’s a petrol, it’s going to rev more and use its power not torque, that’s how a petrol is designed and it will do it easily it likes to rev, so bit unfair to say it’s revving a bit high. And b), these new gearboxes like the 7 speed but particularly 8 and 10 speed, they will hunt gears that’s the whole purpose that’s it’s job, so it’s always in the perfect rev range for the speed? Bit unfair to say that’s an issue when that’s it’s job? To use all the gears. But keep it fair, issue with the patrol, it shouldn’t jump to 7th gear, the cruiser is doing the right thing and NOT using its overdrive gear as you shouldn’t tow heavy loads with overdrive gears?

Reuben thanks and it would be good to see how the Land Cruiser 300 goes over the same route

Great review, BUT some numpties might get the wrong idea about towing mirrors. There are enough of them out there already who haven't the foggiest notion of what's behind them or worse...why that might be something they ought to know!!! When you set-out to put something like this in the public domain, I think it would be wise if you had the correct gear for the job (IE: towing mirrors). I know you commented on the lack thereof, but that doesn't excuse their omission. Also, it may have been wise to inform the potential buyer of the lower GVM when towing a heavy van.

I 100% with the comments about the gearbox. It seems to be programmed for a different engine. In standard form it won’t give you 6th until you hit 116 km/h and then let off. It wants to kick down with the slightest pedal pressure and hates to lock the torque converter in 5th as well. Even around town it wants to rev the engine to 3000 rpm ion the lower gears just to keep up with normal traffic. It all seems pretty pointless to rev an engine with maximum torque between 1600 - 2600 rpm like this. I’ve had mine reflashed to improve this but it could still be much better. If anyone knows someone who can really tune the gearbox to my liking, please let us all know.

Did i just see you filling 91 into patrol..gee thats disrespect. Should ve been atleast 95 vs vortex diesel. Good review though

The Patrol should be run on 98 not 91. It is however a credit to it that it can be run on both with no ill effect outside of power and economy. Fuel price should also be considered.

No need to reflash the trans, although it's an option, a TC lock-up kit make a huge difference to both towing performance and economy as well as engine braking. Well worth the investment. It also allows you to get 6th from 95kph and hold it longer.

Great honest review. I'm thinking a set of WDH may have assisted in putting some weight back over the front wheels and removed some of that skittish steering.

$30k + for a 200 vs a Y62.. How on earth are you using 3lt/100 more towing 3.5t? your unloaded trip must have had a lot more right foot.

Excellent vid. I am really struggling atm with what tow vehicle to get and your vid really helped.

Great review Yes thanks for being honest, Patrol for me such a price difference. Set of air bags on the Patrol, perfect. Stay safe thanks cheers

Great review! Up the mighty patrol! Your mate shauno wont be happy with the fuel figures as he commented about " I wouldn't want to pay for the fuel bill" lol

A lot of vehicles have a foot park brake including Toyota's such a the Kluger. Other than that an awesome review and very interesting.

That's even on 91 octane! I'm sure it would do even better on some good dinosaur juice!

Great vid mate, looking forward to the chopped 62 :) there's already a 6x6 y62 in the works somewhere i hear :)

If i had the money, id have a S5 Y62 ordered tomorrow morning.

Good review. 200 fuel economy would be even worse with a big canopy on the back. Would be good to see this repeated with a 300, Hilux, and Ford F-250. All 4 Adventure got good results in their economy run of their F250 vs the D-Max , only 1l/100k more.

My Lexus 2011 had the foot handbrake as well. Love it

well there you go, this is more than likely with the 200 series having 2006-7 technology used in all models right up to the 300 series i would reckon, the y62 has 2013 tech with variable this and that for good economy and the price of diesel as opposed to petrol ,the patrol would be a winner for me hands down,bloody glad i watched this,great vid.

Hopefully people will still continue to buy the cruiser Sahara. Vs the patrol. While I ditch my over price Toyota years ago😁

Great review mute ! Very well done 👍

I currently drive the 4L v6 pathfinder and i honestly think what the fuss was about..its a bloody quick vehicle and super light. Quite capable even without lockers (if you know how to drive) and its super cheap! Its quite thirsty though possibly worse than a y62, so im looking at these big v8s as my next upgrade!

Great video mate! As a Toyota purist who now brought a patrol! Only a shame you had a Sahara against a ti!

This is super useful as I’m looking to purchase a tow vehicle

Great video. Love watching these things but how about toning down the music . All these types of shows seem to favour head banging music

2 weeks ago I travelled from Deniliquin to Wagga with a mate towing the same vans 3.5 off road caravans. My mate towing with a 2023 stock patrol and me towing with a stock 2021 LC200 ( stock beside both vehicles have had suspension upgrades ). We both fuelled in Deniliquin and travelled to Wagga. We both fuelled in Wagga 260 kms I put 47 litres in my LC200 filled to the top unable to fit anymore fuel in. My mate in the patrol fuelled 63 litres also fill to the top. 16 litres more fuel then the LC200 or 6 litres per 100 more then the LC200 It’s not a great deal more but on a 10000 kms trip you’re talking about 600 litres $1400 remembering these patrol take either 95-98 fuel.

The payload capacity for both is disappointing. Add a bull bar, winch, fridge and tow ball weight and you exceed your GVM. You would think these manufacturers would provide more payload as factory standard. For both vehicles you need to go through the hassle of getting a GVM upgrade.

Great "real world" test. Thanks.

probably the best review I have seen. Well done. Two questions for you. 1 Did either of these vehicles have a suspension upgrade to cope with the 320 to 350 kg tow ball download or did you drive them with a saggy rear end? 2 You used 91 petrol. Surely the patrol would do better fuel economy on 95 or 98 as is recommended. Would love to know as I am going to buy either one of these in the next couple of weeks.

A very interesting conclusion in my opinion. The result was a surprise to me too. We have an HDJ100R which I love. One of my mates worked for a mining company & his first company vehicle was an HDJ79R which was replaced by a V8 Diesel cab chassis, he wanted the six cylinder back because he reckoned it was a better engine then the V8. I would be interested to see a comparison between the 100 series & the V8 Patrol. The 6 cylinder petrol Patrols seemed to chug petrol, especially compared to the 4.2 litre diesels.

I’d trust this blokes advice over all others. Knows his sh!t

Do the test against a fte 100 series. Could do a lot to a 100 series with the money you save from a 200.

Not to go against you but I would love to drive them both and do a review myself as I am a big fan on both cars and see what I would prefer

I think the steering is so light because the back end of the Nissan sags with the heavy van on it

top review Reuben, both 4wds need air bags for towing

Fantastic very honest review keep it up

Y62 look more tough than cruiser in any comparison

Should add in comments that when towing a large van / trailer that a simple solution would be to have airbags or different springs in the Y62 to fix the softness

The fuel consumption explanation is that the 200 dont lock its stall convertor until 105km. Also it dont like going into 6th until 100km plus. I tune my 200 with gearbox reflash. Get 9.5l per 100 not towing. Tow my 2t boat im doing 12.5L per 100km. Power wise i went from 650nm to 850nm and 250kw.

The clear winner should be Patrol it doesn't have DPF

Love the stability and low down torque of the 200 but yeah it’s gearing, engine braking and brakes in general are not exactly brilliant, you always end up needing a lower gear than you think you do when trying to go slower down hill and let’s not talk about the auto’s lock up issue, it’s pretty annoying but weirdly I get great economy out of the 200, 11liters to the hundred when not towing without really trying and up to 12.5 when it’s very hilly or the right foot plays up. Of course, around town and with a lead foot I can hit 13.5.

Support air bags to help the springs in the rear of the Y62 and the instability problem would be out the window.

Seeing these comments with people complaining about using 91 when you should have used 98 octane makes no sense. If you are going to be touring Australia then 91 will be all you can get when in central Australia or even in the Vic high country you will be told to bad so sad if you asked for 98 in Dargo or out in William creek. 98 is all well and good running around town and for a quick trip away where you are able to fill up at the start and the end but if you are looking to go further off the beaten track 91 is king. Also running in a worst case scenario is a great way to test a vehicle.

Like this review and at the same time surprised. Diesels have no throttle body or if they do it is to control fuel/air ratio and not to engine brake like on petrol/gasoline engines. A modern diesel vehicle typically goes in coast mode when you lift the throttle, quite nice for 90%+ of driving situations unless you live in the mountains. Amount of diesel injected basically controls the revs and power. Reason big trucks have exhaust brakes. The LC200 happens to have oversized brakes to handle prolonged off road conditions requiring ATRAC or Crawl Control. So applying a bit of brakes downhill is no issue whatsoever. I guess a squirrelly back, vague steering, pulling to one side, more feedback from unpaved roads and more road/wind noise are all fine. Reviewer is honest, his conclusions are just surprising.

The best bit is the car that shoots these apart is the LandRover Discovery 4 5.0 litre V8 I know because I have one and makes these 2 second best do your research and I’m glad I did!

You should have left the patrol at the servo and tried to fill it again after it sat for a while. I have heard the last 30 or so liters are hard to get in.

Im on my 3rd patrol and I reckon there is something different in the way air is bled out of the tank or some other quirky thing when filling. I know you used the same process to fill them but there had to be a airlock or something. I can't see how the y62 used that much less fuel over only 120 odd kilometres.

Fantastic honest review did the patrol have factory suspension or airbag added thanks

I recently bought an Armada and based it off great reviews like this for the Patrol…can’t find good reviews about the Armada, they are all spec reviews 🤦🏻‍♂️

Great vid. Honest review. I luv my patrol

Why companies do not put exhaust brakes on them like trucks on them you would not use the foot brake at all. After 30 years of driving trucks . For towing a exhaust brakes would do wonder for them

I want a Patrol. 12.66mpg imperial, CRIKEY! At 5.6 ton that's amazing.

You should also include the trim level for each car for the same amount of money. Next time please use a flag to detect tail wind

Great review well done! You should give some of the euros a run 😉

Petrol has better engine braking as the closed throttle creates a vacuum generating engine braking. Diesel has open throttle so no vacuum to generate engine braking. This is why trucks are fitted with exhaust brakes.

91 octane? Use that in the patrol for a couple of months and have fun with all the troubles

Interested to know the suspension setup on both cars. Stock suspension or modified suspension? Guessing both are modified. And if modified, what was installed. Great review 👍

first thing you do when you unhitch chock the wheels last thing un hook the plug harness before you pull away

We are still paying for our Nissan Navara Ute which has been modified but we have had issues since we bought it and now it is off the road until we get repairs done to it and we purchased a Toyota Land Cruiser 2007 79 series but it needs a new transfer case

Ummm, why did you use 91 on the patrol? You do realise they get better economy with 98 which there meant to use.

Gonna get it for this but there's a 3rd option...D5. Yes I know. But this is a towing comparison. My feeling is it would do really well in this company. It might go a long way to explaining why people buy Discos as towers despite their horrendous reputation for unreliability.

great review thanks

Might want to mention the limitations with payload on the patrol when towing when exceeding 250kgs on towball weight.

Both interiors feel like they are from 10 years ago...CD players?? Still 2 beasts

How you said its pulling to the left lighting it was the same with my mums and she had to go get a wheel alignment and it was a far bit of

Did I see the 200 series have air bags on it when hooking up did the Nissan have the same??? But great review bud top job

Check out the price of your fuel!!! Double it and them some for NZ

Hey mate. I like the comparison. Just want to confirm if the cruiser was a Sahara? If so, to compare the interiors was not fair. The patrol is the lower spec, and the cruiser is the top spec. Should be TI Vs GXL. Apologies if I am wrong.

Can you change the springs from top to bottom legally with insurance companies

I live in Russia. I love this magnificent Nissan Patrol Y62. But in Russia, the Nissan Patrol was Y62 sold worse than the Toyota LC200 1) Nissan Patrol does not have full time (this is a very important factor in Russia due to weather conditions). 2) Russia's incomprehensible transport tax scared people away. Because in Russia, tax is paid for horse power. Over 250 hp is a very large tax. The LC200 diesel engine has just 249 hp. 3) 2010-2012 Nissan Patrol had problems with its engine chains and gearbox. in 2013, all diseases were corrected and everything became better. But despite all this from the first day I Nissan Patrol fan.

At least your honest. There insane with a supercharger. Just needs the euro interior we don’t get here. Check out the nissmo version.

I think the Patrol is a very good vehicle however, I think your fuel comparison test went wrong some where? I have watched 4 other fuel comparisons towing and 4wding with all showing very little between the two? If anything the 200 series slightly better.

Great vehicle, now chop it!

Well done 👍👍👍

I’m guessing it doesn’t come in manual

thank you for the video

Great video

How does the LC 200 petrol compare ?